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Bard VTuber analyzes the WISDOM SAGA! 

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Suno Shecano the Bard VTuber reacts to EPIC The Musical: Wisdom Saga and gives his expert analysis of them!
Thank you to Jorge Rivera-Herrans, the creator of EPIC: The Musical - @jayherrans and the Cast of EPIC: The Musical!
Check out Jay's channel for all things EPIC: The Musical!
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@birubu
@birubu 28 дней назад
Calypso was throwing out trigger words for Odysseus left and right. It’s an interesting way to portray how all he can do is be reminded of his dead friends and family. - “Ody” ~ Eurylocus - “Open arms” ~ Polites - “I’ll stay inside your heart” ~ Anticlea, aka Ody’s mom (from The Underworld at 3:10 “I took too long (I’ll always love you), and ventured too far (I’ll stay in your heart)”)
@nutelasaur9453
@nutelasaur9453 28 дней назад
I hadn't caught the trigger for Anticlea, but I can't get enough of her reprise in the song! cool stuff
@kittycatzuka
@kittycatzuka 28 дней назад
That ending section of Love In Paradise having the danger motif because Ody _is a danger to himself in that moment_ is so good. That and it being such an accurate portrayal of Ody's ptsd and how even a simple phrase can trigger traumatic memories in someone, is why I always go back to it. Writer/psychology nerd brain loves it so much.
@rakhimitra2193
@rakhimitra2193 27 дней назад
not a single phrase, *multiple* phrases.
@kittycatzuka
@kittycatzuka 27 дней назад
@rakhimitra2193 I'm aware it was multiple, I'm just saying how there are times where all it COULD take is a single phrase
@rakhimitra2193
@rakhimitra2193 27 дней назад
@@kittycatzuka ah
@mirross4890
@mirross4890 28 дней назад
In Legendary “ and I have no idea if you’re dead or just too far” as a military kid hits real hard
@BiasFree
@BiasFree 28 дней назад
It's a Melody from full speed ahead you're thinking of for Legendary.
@Kanamo4781
@Kanamo4781 28 дней назад
"Give us 'till sunrise, and if we don't return, then Six Hundred Men can make this whole place burn! So Full Speed Ahead..." Is the specific one
@BiasFree
@BiasFree 28 дней назад
@@Kanamo4781 nailed it.
@birubu
@birubu 28 дней назад
Apollo - Boyband Singer Hephaestus - Home Depot ( ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-goUVi-8jOF8.htmlsi=Vfdj7WtBk7fNLQFK ) Aphrodite - Celebrity Gal Ares - Somehow just jumps pantheons to Vikings with that bowed lyre? Hera - Disco *Queen* / Wine Aunt Zeus - Idk fuckin’ I dont know just listen to him Also I like how out of all the gods, rather than develop a variation of Athena’s theme, Ares just straight up hijacked it with his own instruments. He’s a god of war like Athena, so his melody is basically identical to hers, but compared to everyone else’s introductions he just brute forces his way into the song. And damn, Athena’s melody in half speed showing her patience and thoughtfulness, then *counter-hijacking Ares’s theme*. Then, rather than dominating his instruments like he did with hers, she uses her piano to direct his bowed lyre and drums to her command, subjugating him with finesse rather than brutality. Hera is also the only one who doesn’t present an argument for Athena to use off the bat. Rather, encouraging her to come up with one herself. This also means she’s the only one who’s neutral/supportive out of all the other gods. “Give me one good reason” just one’s enough, but she does need one and isn’t just gonna help Athena out as a mere favor. She just goes “yeah sit down have a drink and we can chat about why you think Ody should be freed. No rush, you have the whole day while I go about chillin’, disco’in’, and drinkin’.” Really feels like a kid trying to convince her aunt, and the aunt being supportive but not trying not to coddle her niece. Wine aunt Hera FTW.
@ShyyGaladriel
@ShyyGaladriel 28 дней назад
Ares instrument is the Chinese Erhu. I was so excited when I found out what it was since Chinese instruments have such amazing unique sounds and need to be used more.
@akemikobyashi8478
@akemikobyashi8478 28 дней назад
When Antinous calls Penelope a trap, I know it means that he doesn’t care about her, or her son, he’s just in it for the power! And is on his last nerve!
@_2fcd_978
@_2fcd_978 28 дней назад
You missed a letter there but I know what you mean.
@anastasija6866
@anastasija6866 28 дней назад
Imagine if Antinous did call Penelope a trap
@Kaybri0526
@Kaybri0526 28 дней назад
@@anastasija6866*danger motif intensifies*
@Hamlettte
@Hamlettte 25 дней назад
​@@Kaybri0526So that's why Circe couldn't seduce him
@NotUndeadYet
@NotUndeadYet 28 дней назад
Oh man. Suno. 1:14:35. The Hera convincing argument? It's not so much her domain of influence that makes that an effective argument. That's the one that works because Hera has the immense misfortune to be married to Zeus, and she is always very, very upset about his many affairs.
@sunoshecano3837
@sunoshecano3837 28 дней назад
Yeahhhh. Zeus has too many affairs.
@NotUndeadYet
@NotUndeadYet 28 дней назад
@@sunoshecano3837 so many. Polyamory only works if everyone agrees to it, mr Zeus! You don't count as everyone lightning guy!
@ugxsan
@ugxsan 28 дней назад
@@NotUndeadYet Don't tell Zeus that, he might sink your ship! XD
@robinmcmillan4112
@robinmcmillan4112 28 дней назад
The motif you caught at 49:22 is Odyessus' (cunning) motif and it's introduced right at the begininng and shows up whenever Ody is in a tight spot where he has to think or he's planning. There's a video from Bog Dog on youtube that shows all where it shows up in the first 6 sagas.
@werwolfnate
@werwolfnate 28 дней назад
18:08 Full Speed ahead is the origin of the motif you were thinking of.
@BGTitanAvatar
@BGTitanAvatar 28 дней назад
Unsure if you know this so I’m just gonna throw it out there. Hera is Zeus’ wife who he regularly cheats on because he’s Zeus. Hera absolutely hates it (obviously). So not only would Ody being loyal be the thing she respects but Athena was also kind of throwing shade at Zeus with that line.
@sunoshecano3837
@sunoshecano3837 28 дней назад
At the time of recording I did not remember everything about Hera but I remember so much more now haha
@NotUndeadYet
@NotUndeadYet 28 дней назад
Pretty sure Little Wolf is officially my favorite from this saga. I know I was very vocal about being excited for God Games and it's very good, but Little Wolf has the /perfect/ vibe.
@ralikperov01
@ralikperov01 28 дней назад
YEEEESSS! Another video to Satisfy my obsession EPIC the musical!
@blueteller
@blueteller 28 дней назад
It's really fascinating how Odysseus and Athena got parallel character arcs in the exact opposite direction. Athena starts with "put your emotions aside" and "I'm not looking for a friend", and Ody with "what good will killing do". And now we get Athena "unable to sleep at night", calling Ody an old friend, while Ody embraced "ruthlessness is mercy".
@F_doesnotwanttobehere7
@F_doesnotwanttobehere7 28 дней назад
1:06:01 I’m glad u caught that. It’s i think (greek mythology nerds correct me if I’m wrong,i saw this in Jay’s tiktok comment section) it’s because Hermes gave Apollo the lyre?
@kittycatzuka
@kittycatzuka 28 дней назад
You'd be correct! Hermes invented the lyre, stole Apollo's cows (both literally happening on the day hermes was BORN because he could already walk and talk), and then when Apollo (whom no one believed when he kept accusing Hermes bc. Literal newborn) confronted him, Hermes gave him the lyre as a way of apology. And also gave him the cows back (except 1 that he killed)
@F_doesnotwanttobehere7
@F_doesnotwanttobehere7 28 дней назад
@@kittycatzuka Okay thanks for the clarification! I just didn’t want to accidentally spoil anything beyond this saga
@ugxsan
@ugxsan 28 дней назад
There’s actually only *two* sagas left after this, each being five songs (unless that’s changed very recently!) No telling when we’ll get those of course, but the sooner the better cause I’m *super hype* for the Vengeance Saga.
@NotUndeadYet
@NotUndeadYet 28 дней назад
Vengeance Saga party ship gonna stay in the harbor, safe at dock, where *certain scary things* can't get us cause we don't have plot armor. But it is gonna be a great party.
@sunoshecano3837
@sunoshecano3837 28 дней назад
But I thought during the livestream Jay mentioned three left?
@ugxsan
@ugxsan 28 дней назад
@@sunoshecano3837 I’mma double check that when I have time cause now I’m curious! It’s possible he can’t count (wouldn’t be the first time lol) but he did previously have the last ten songs listed under two final sagas (Vengeance and Ithaca) But also maybe that’s changed and I missed the announcement.
@Rahenno
@Rahenno 27 дней назад
In the livestream, Jorge said three Livestreams left but there are only two Sagas left. So who knows what the third livestream might be. Cut songs maybe?
@NotUndeadYet
@NotUndeadYet 27 дней назад
@@ugxsan he might also have been counting the Livestream he was in the process of kicking off at the time, since he was at the very beginning of it. Not the most likely scenario but not impossible.
@NotUndeadYet
@NotUndeadYet 28 дней назад
oh boy music nerdery let's go let's gooooo
@silvertongue231
@silvertongue231 28 дней назад
Not Calypso becoming my new fav character replacing Eurylucus
@WeathermanWill
@WeathermanWill 27 дней назад
Yes, you need to make sure you are wearing both headphones at 55:32. The trick Spotify does still comes through even on RU-vid. It is awesome to hear Open Arms in my left ear, the crew singing Mutiny in my right ear, Odysseus’s mom singing her part from Underworld from both but it feels like it is from overhead, and then Odysseus in the middle of that triangle.
@area52ron
@area52ron 11 дней назад
Telemachus is 20 since he was a baby at the beginning of the Trojan war
@silvertongue231
@silvertongue231 28 дней назад
Luck Runs out and Warrior of the Mind and Open Arms were my top favs but I think Legendary and Love in Paradise and Fight Little Wolf are my favs now
@PoisonedLuck
@PoisonedLuck 28 дней назад
Very happy to see the musical breakdown! Really fun to listen to while I work
@silvertongue231
@silvertongue231 28 дней назад
God games slaps so hard
@evandropaschoalini5940
@evandropaschoalini5940 27 дней назад
Also, is it just me hearing it or is there a songle Suitor cheering for Telemachus in Little Wolf alongside Athena?
@evandropaschoalini5940
@evandropaschoalini5940 27 дней назад
Also, Suno, you could watch the Hold Them Down parody, although the official hasen't yet been released it is very diferent lyricaly and probably in the instrumentals from the final version
@sunoshecano3837
@sunoshecano3837 26 дней назад
There might be. I will listen a bit closer next time i listen!
@alexdombrowski9483
@alexdombrowski9483 28 дней назад
If you like athenas voice and her ranges listen to her album called mother it shows her range as a singer
@sunoshecano3837
@sunoshecano3837 26 дней назад
Thank you for the recommendation
@ShyyGaladriel
@ShyyGaladriel 6 дней назад
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but Ares instrument is an Erhu, a Chinese instrument.
@silvertongue231
@silvertongue231 28 дней назад
Not Calypso referencing open arms God dang it Jorge
@Shatoswolfdemon
@Shatoswolfdemon 28 дней назад
The biggest point to be made about Hera: she’s the wife of Zeus and he cheats on her all the time.
@deathhog4409
@deathhog4409 28 дней назад
this saga is one of the best so far
@Kaybri0526
@Kaybri0526 28 дней назад
YES I LOVE MUSICAL ANALYSIS
@leadingblind1629
@leadingblind1629 28 дней назад
Yes! Nerd cut!!
@Beaniebeaniee
@Beaniebeaniee 27 дней назад
4:49 OMG YESSS I thought I was the only one who had noticed that they gives us some kind of telemachus motif at the beginning of the show 😭💝
@keyjerant7917
@keyjerant7917 28 дней назад
When Athena is down in god games you can hear warrior of the mind AND legendary, I took that to meen that she was thinking of Odysseus AND Telemachus 😭
@Emimilliemoo
@Emimilliemoo 28 дней назад
Strings ensemble and a viola is Penelope's instrument, so the inclusion of it at the end of thunderbringer is to show how Odysseus is thinking of her and it being with Telemachus is how he's going to fight for her
@sureindubitably3771
@sureindubitably3771 28 дней назад
Its a callback to "full speed ahead" lol
@yanchoman
@yanchoman 28 дней назад
Only 10 views in 4 minutes* 💀
@Crabhandsmcgee
@Crabhandsmcgee 28 дней назад
Honestly, when it comes to instruments and their associated characters, I managed to identify quite a few. Telemachus with hammered dulcimer, Antinous with the suitors (essentially another Eurylochus), Calypso with steel pans, Apollo with lyre (obviously), Hephaestus with tubular bells, Aphrodite with saxophone, and Ares with hurdy gurdy. I couldn't identify Hera's, and I may be wrong with my assessments. Please correct me if so.
@Beaniebeaniee
@Beaniebeaniee 26 дней назад
You got almost all correct, except for telemachus who has an indie piano as main instrument, and I think the instrument of ares is also a different one.
@sunoshecano3837
@sunoshecano3837 26 дней назад
I think you got all of them spot on...I saw someone else here mentioned the synth (modified piano) being Telemachus's instrument. Hera didn't really seem to have one...it was more just the disco genre change for her section! Good ear though!! I enjoy seeing you all identify this better than me!
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