Barry Allen is in the DC Animated Universe and I Can Prove It

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In this video, we investigate the big questions: does Barry Allen exist in the DC Animated Universe? Is he the Flash in the Superman cartoon? Did he die a horrific death, or did he ever exist to begin with? And what in the world is that Kid Flash costume in the museum? We explore the implications of his existence and compare and contrast the versions of The Flash from the TV show, the comics, the books, and more. If you're a fan of The Flash, then this video is for you!
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2:44 - Who is Barry Allen?
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@dcauwatchtower 9 месяцев назад

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@ODDdiddle 9 месяцев назад

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@j.m.l.m. 9 месяцев назад

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@djswssdjjejkc2810 9 месяцев назад

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@Isocromia 9 месяцев назад

22:03 But, What if Barry made a "Flashpoint" and is for this reason he is Dead on this universe? and is for this reason Canon is Weird.

@davidspdy1237 8 месяцев назад

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@SerumLake 10 месяцев назад

In my head canon, The Superfriends fought the Anti-Monitor in their own Crisis, which resulted in the birth of the DCAU.

@phatmantv 10 месяцев назад

Then we had an unseen Infinite Crisis that gave us the DCAMU pre Flashpoint 😂

@sheepycheeze 10 месяцев назад

Which is a nice theory… if we hadn’t seen their universe in one or two animated projects recently

@siobibble9078 10 месяцев назад

@@sheepycheezetrue. But in the comics usually after a big event in the multiverse that changed the universe. it also restores and preserves a version of that earth pre crisis. Like earth 52, is basically just the new 52 universe but the rebirth shenanigans never happened. So you could keep that theory if you wanted

@francescozenocchini4428 10 месяцев назад

Nice theory i was thinking about the DCAU have actually created the DCAMU pre-Flashpoint like that in the 2060s some kind of Crisis or apocalypse event happened were the Justice League (led by 40 year old Terry McGinnis) ended up losing It and so a speedster (Wally, Bart or Danica Williams) go back in time and create a new universe (DCAMU pre-Flashpoint)

@DaBlueJay2001 10 месяцев назад

That's amazing, that's my headcanon too now

@SpiderS2099 10 месяцев назад

Idea of Barry being lost and forgotten due to Reverse Flash is genius and would make a really good DCAU movie.

@0626polyboy 9 месяцев назад

I actually thought that it was Barry the whole time in justice league unlimited

@thechemise4487 9 месяцев назад

you mean like in new 52 wally got erase from reality and no one could remember him?

@maximusprime3459 9 месяцев назад

Reverse Flash did it on Batman Brave and the Bold.

@OfficialCptTesla 9 месяцев назад

The Return of Barry Allen...

@barryallen871 9 месяцев назад

Isn't the DCAU just the TV shows? At last it seems like that's what this video is implying. Barry is already in the animated movies.

@aaronchavez5335 9 месяцев назад

I like the idea of nobody knowing - that Allen sacrificed himself to save the world and nobody would ever hear about it, and that nobody realized it was a new guy when Wally took up the mantle, because he moved so fast. A totally seamless legacy - in a hundred years, it'll be impossible to tell where Barry ends and Wally began - and that's probably what they wanted.

@TaGF_Tomcat 9 месяцев назад

20:48

@thekoifishcoyote8762 8 месяцев назад

Might be a stretch but I accept this headcanon

@lornbaker1083 6 месяцев назад

That's a beautiful way of thinking about it . And I have to agree. I'm pretty sure If the both of them were able to look at the legacy that resulted in an almost seamless Transition. They would be happy

@Kagamahto 3 месяца назад

This

@JonesNate 3 месяца назад

This is DC; not Doctor Who. 😅 Cool idea though

@connorthegunlovingeek7465 9 месяцев назад

I like the idea of Barry existing because it furthers the idea that this is already a universe where a lot of important events have happened

@maxalaintwo3578 9 месяцев назад

I kind of like Batman starting everything off in this universe though. Some far-off Flash shenanigans taking place sort of undermines that

@davebrown2056 9 месяцев назад

@@maxalaintwo3578 The thing is, there were definitely costumed heroes active before Batman in the DCAU: Doctor Fate, El Diablo, Spy Smasher, probably Wildcat... so that's kind of a moot point, whether Barry was ever the Flash or not.

@maxalaintwo3578 9 месяцев назад

@@davebrown2056 Doctor Fate sort of has a primordial role though. And El Diablo and Wildcat aren't superpowered (at least not much,) so the escalation of stakes still doesn't occur after Superman

@davebrown2056 9 месяцев назад

@@maxalaintwo3578 Well, a human who got one superpower in an accident is still low stakes compared to an alien with a bunch of superpowers.

@maxalaintwo3578 9 месяцев назад

@@davebrown2056 when his villains are time travelling reality changers, I'd be hesitant to call that "low-stakes."

@leafjonin7 10 месяцев назад

What if Barry's sacrifice rewrote the fabric of their reality erasing Barry from memory but his presence still caused Wally to be Flash

@daverhoden445 9 месяцев назад

And only Wally can remember him due to Speed Force shenanigans.

@leafjonin7 9 месяцев назад

@@daverhoden445 better yet the reason Wally Memories feel like Barry's is because a speed force contradiction. Wally is seeing Barry's memory because he is now infused with a paradoxical incident. Barry in order to save the universe and wanting to keep the Flash alive created a paradox creating Wally with no Barry but needing a Barry in order to create Wally in the first place. If that makes sense.

@epicdogeplays 9 месяцев назад

in my headcanon it’s like a spider-verse thing where if you lose one (peter parker and barry), the universe will correct itself and create a new one (miles morales and wally west) with similar “canon events”

@ked49 9 месяцев назад

@@epicdogeplaysthat is how the flash works but with one difference. That difference might explain this. Memories can pass via the speed force. When Barry is possessed his mind is sent to the speed force. But a speedster can posses a speedster. So Barry could be dead and his mind is mixing with Wally. That makes it kinda like reincarnation like the hawks

@aleanddragonITA 9 месяцев назад

@@ked49 In that case it would actually be a Transmigration And not a Reincarnation They are similar but not the same

@Goddessllias 8 месяцев назад

Honestly, I really like the idea that Wally just took up the mantle and mostly wasn't letting people know that there was a change of hero. Nobody knew that Barry had died because neither of them wanted people to think that their hero could be killed.

@animehair05silently88 5 месяцев назад

Hmmmmm... Do we know that the justice lords' flash was Wally West instead of Barry Allen

@LucasHopkins2006 4 месяца назад

⁠@@animehair05silently88Probably, if Wally was Flash in the main universe then they probably would’ve had that stick for the Justice Lords universe, and in the show itself from what I remember seeing in J’s Reviews’ video on JL Season 2 (I still haven’t watched the show because I’m terrible about procrastinating for no reason), I think Lords GL and Hawkgirl talked about Flash in a way that sounded like Wally by saying it feels like any second he’d zip in and joke around or something which is more of a Wally thing then Barry (despite what some writers might have you believe) since Barry’s sense of humor is more of a dad humor thing, saying stuff like “back in a flash” while Wally’s humor is maybe more along the lines of Spider-Man I guess, plus there’s also when Flash tricked Lords Batman into thinking his heart stopped and he was dying making Lords Batman freak out and free him in a panic which he might not have gotten a reaction out of Lords Batman like that if his Flash was Barry, if the main Batman could figure out Flash was Wally then I’m sure Lords Batman could do the same so if Barry had been Flash in that universe then Lords Batman might not have cared as much if he knew Flash wasn’t the same Flash he knew and that he and the League went evil over his death

@thegreatunknown8075 3 месяца назад

@@LucasHopkins2006 I think they would have cared just as much because they didn't care that it was "wally/berry" it was this universe's flash So I like the idea that both universe's berry died but the other universe didn't have a wally to step up and fill the void and maby thier berry was killed and other made a sacrifice. It would also explain why batman stops wally from sacrificing himself later on not wanting to go through that again

@jesusramirezromo2037 8 месяцев назад

Remember that Wally was completely forgotten in New 52? What if something like that happened to Barry in DCAU?, He existed, but in some time saving sacrifice, He was completely erased

@Awesomest915 7 месяцев назад

Maybe it’s a Spider-Gwen situation, where Wally got the lightning+chemicals treatment INSTEAD of Barry, hence Barry remains an ordinary forensic scientist.

@JokingGoof 10 месяцев назад

I like the idea that barry was canon and just erased himself from exsistance, due to causing time paradoxs. Maybe this could have been explored if we've gotten a FlashTAS starring wally.

@SuperDababy2 10 месяцев назад

that or Barry being around before Bruce was Batman, then Wally wearing his suit just made people think they were the same guy (that or Bruce still knows but just doesn't say anything).

@ked49 9 месяцев назад

This can explain the personality. Dead speedsters minds return to the speedforce. So his mind could have mixed with Wally. In a sudo reincarnation. Thus some personality traits pass on. And why Wally works at the crime lab is he feels something is off

@Underscorezeus 10 месяцев назад

I like the idea of Barry existing but I wish we could've seen him if we did

@phatmantv 10 месяцев назад

Would be nice if MAX cancels YJ and brings back a couple of final seasons of DCAMU with maybe a season long arc of Crisis then leading into a season long One Minute War arc. I would subscribe to Max in a NY minute for that. Though they'd need to find a good sound-a-like voice actor for Bats.

@omega9270 10 месяцев назад

@@phatmantv Nah, we need YJ it's some of the best DCAS's outside of the DCAU, it would be cool ngl if we see a DCAU Flash Movie, that briefly shows Jay and touches on Barry a lil bit through out it. But we are ofc getting a Crisis movie next year so who knows since it is Crisis, they will defo bring heroes from through out the Multiverse and maybe in it we see DCAU Barry before his death, and we get his death in the movie running on the treadmill.

@phatmantv 10 месяцев назад

@@omega9270 Tomorrowverse Crisis may be good, but doubt it. It needs a trilogy, but I really think the DCAU was better than the YJ verse.

@thegreninjadoctor6764 10 месяцев назад

@@omega9270 I agree, i we need a lot more YJ content the stuff they are doing with Vandal Savage makes the character more threatening, and has done him in a way better way than any projects ever, and his deal with Darkseid wow is that fucking good. But i agree we need a DCAU Flash movie etc.

@omega9270 10 месяцев назад

@@phatmantv Yeah, it defo needs a Trilogy to succeed in the best way possible, also i treat them equally since they're some of the best DC content we've ever had, and since DCAU's TV Side is long ended i'd say keep Young Justice going and let DCAU have more movies imo. James Gunn treats those as Else Word stories.

@Rhented 9 месяцев назад

I think in the end, I think it’s just nice for Wally to get some recognition out there at such an early time for a lot of kids watching comic shows. It gives them a different flash to admire and can lead them to wanting to see him and the other flashes.

@DSan-kl2yc 7 месяцев назад

That doesn't work. Because before they never stated the Flash's name. So this might be the first time his name is mentioned? And he hadn't cartoons since like superfriends or his solo shorts. So any flash before wouldn't have gotten much exposure.

@kobaye2111 2 месяца назад

Wally been the Flash since the 80s. Barry is only famous nowadays because of that CW shit show .

@flashskywalker1380 9 месяцев назад

Headcanon: Barry fought Thawne to the end of time and instead of becoming the bolt of lightning that made him the Flash he and Thawne became the bolt that chose a new Flash(Wally West) while also erasing them from existence and memory. Wally was a huge flash fan but with Barry being erased Wally is only subconsciously inspired by him and basically lives the same life he once did. Idk terrible explanation but ya lol nice video!

@evilyoshimaster 10 месяцев назад

I like Barry being in the DCAU because it adds a level of tragedy to his character and gives him a nice little bit of extra emotional connection with Batman.

@davebrown2056 9 месяцев назад

"He is _gone_ now, this _Flash..._ Barry Allen... gone saving more than one universe from more than certain doom... he has died fighting for what he believed in... and thus he died... without regret. Though his death is unknown to all but one, he will be _mourned..._ trust us, he _will_ be mourned." - Crisis on Infinite Earths #11

@undeaddragon40 10 месяцев назад

I like the idea of Barry predating Wally as the Flash because I love both of them and having Barry exist, even if he's dead, really helps make this Earth seem more developed and gives you feeling of a longer history than what he got to see

@Pierced_Light 9 месяцев назад

I really love the idea of Barry Allen in the DCAU, I’m personally a Wally fan myself but looking into extended lore and storytelling is a huge passion of mine. This is definitely a binge worthy channel and I can’t wait to watch more of this channel. Greta video good job. Love the work!

@autumbreeze1129 9 месяцев назад

Remember how Flash almost got lost in the Speed Force in the Unlimited season 1 fight? Maybe Barry also got lost in the Speed Force and it messed with reality a little? I dunno. Just a random idea that popped into my head at 23:50

@marcgravatt1051 10 месяцев назад

I like to think Wally is probably about the same age as Nightwing, and was Kid Flash in his mid to late teens around the same time as Dick was Robin in the BTAS era.

@DerrickSeaborne 10 месяцев назад

Wally and dick are the same age ,and we're in the teen Titans together

@ngrjordi2352 10 месяцев назад

@@DerrickSeabornesince when we're in Titans together?

@DerrickSeaborne 10 месяцев назад

@@ngrjordi2352 early 1980s ,marv wolfman was the writer on teen Titans then

@jamestrigg8290 9 месяцев назад

@@DerrickSeaborne Wally and Dick were Titans together even back in the 60s comics

@ngrjordi2352 9 месяцев назад

@@DerrickSeabornecool, we are Titans 😂

@retired_orange 10 месяцев назад

Love the idea that there was a Crisis or Flash/Reverse Flash battle that took Barry out of canon, for all intents and purposes. In this iteration of the world, Wally was just always the Flash. Or, like in New 52/Rebirth (where everyone forgot Wally West) everyone has simply forgotten Barry. It’s kind of sad.

@envy-15545 9 месяцев назад

The segue into that sponsorship segment was so good that I didn’t skip past it. Good job

@TheInkTank 9 месяцев назад

Another great vid! I like the idea of Barry being there but I think it'd be fine if he wasn't, or if he was but got erased and changed the timeline slightly.

@yamataichul 9 месяцев назад

100% wished his sacrifice only prevented him from ever becoming the flash, but still being alive and well

@phatmantv 10 месяцев назад

I always figured Jay and Barry were already secret speedsters pre Batman, that already hung up their boots and cowl by the time Superman and Wally appeared.

@thinneroficekittens 10 месяцев назад

I always thought that Barry existed in dcau continuity only as "Wally's uncle" and that kid flash's costume from the museum belonged to impuls, who's just around there. We could see him in that teaser to Justice League series so clearly someone from the production team wanted him to be in this universe, plus impuls was a kid flash for a brief period of time in the major comic continuity.

@ngrjordi2352 10 месяцев назад

Or that yellow costume was Wally's first costume just like how Batman has multiple batsuit

@firstnamelastname5716 9 месяцев назад

Tbh I kinda like the idea that Barry and Thawn did have some big fight prior to the DCAU proper that retroactively erased their existence, so people only remember Jay and then Wally (or just Wally if we’re being super canon here)

@sugarrusheb 8 месяцев назад

Fun fact: one of the gravestones actually says the name "Jay" in the justice society episode, so, yes, the streak is basically confirmed to be Jay. I love the idea of Barry having been a thing, having been the Flash before Wally. It would help explain why Wally goes so far for everyone, he's trying to fill Barry's shoes but doesn't feel like he ever can.

@MrChristopherMolloy 10 месяцев назад

Better an imaginary Barry rather than no Barry at all ⚡

@MonkeyDBatman 10 месяцев назад

I disagree

@dinofacedindividual9462 10 месяцев назад

I really like the idea of Barry existing in the DCAU. It gives a sense of history and depth to the universe. Even if I also prefer Wally to Barry overall.

@MrTomFreak 9 месяцев назад

My particular head canon is that since the heroes didn't really know each other that well until de JL cartoon, Barry could have existed and died saving the universe, but nobody mentions him because nobody knows there are two separate Flashes (except Batman, of course, but he doesn't mention it out of respect).

@johnadams3802 9 месяцев назад

If it helps to prevent your impending aneurysm: Impulse did change his name (and costume) to Kid Flash in the comic books around 2005. There's really no reason he couldn't have done the same in the DCAU.

@nicksorenson940 10 месяцев назад

It would be nice to know with certainty if Barry did officially exist at some point in the DCAU's history, but I guess when you love and enjoy Wally's Flash that much you never really have to think too hard about it if the JL series itself doesn't. Like with a lot of the DC heroes the STAS episode "Speed Demons" was one of my earliest introductions to Flash as a 90s kid who couldn't have the most access to the actual comics at the time, and apparently it was always Wally in that episode anyway, but then it's always interesting to learn about the characters who had carried the same mantle in comics prior. Revisiting the 1990s live-action series of The Flash for the first time in recent years I have to admit I wasn't immediately used to seeing a more mature Flash after such a long time of knowing Flash as our loveable goof Wally in the DCAU, but then you can't exactly say that "Barry's Flash is always more serious" after some of the stuff Ezra Miller's Barry does in the new Flash movie (his younger self in particular).

@Crazy-Gaonk 9 месяцев назад

There's a DCAU comic that literally shows Barry when Wally was Kid Flash

@mawinstallation6626 9 месяцев назад

@@Crazy-Gaonk Not canon

@Crazy-Gaonk 9 месяцев назад

@@mawinstallation6626 ur mom is not canon

@roryscott2941 9 месяцев назад

@@Crazy-Gaonkis that a Reverse-Flash quote?

@gyga100 9 месяцев назад

i think that instead of a version of the Crisis,maybe the DCAU had his own version of the Zero Hour event instead,that also would explain the absence of Hal Jordan,Hal was possessed by Paralax tried to use all Green Lantern corp powers to went back to the beggining of time and rewrite reality, but in this version, Barry sacrifice himself and trapped Hal and Paralax outside of time using the speed force,since they were pulled out of time,the timeline self rewriten as this characters never existed since they are outside of time,that would explain why Jonh became Hal for a short period of time when Chronus was messing with the time,maybe weakning his prison, and later when Wally does the Infinite Mass Punch to defeat Lex and vanish into the speed force, could be Barry inside of the speed force helping him come back making a rift so the League could pull him back into reality(and also the explanation of why only Wally remembers him) ,and we could use this to explain all that inconsistent comics and products of JL and JLU,maybe they happen before this version of Zero Hour happen and the cartoons are the rewriten timeline???

@MrAnonymouz 9 месяцев назад

That was a crazy ad break Ima watch it outta respect

@ShinySephiroth1 10 месяцев назад

QOTD: I love the idea of Barry Allen in the DCAU! I honestly believe there was a CoIE in the DCAU and things like Hal switching in for John, or the hints of other Flashes. My headcanon is that the CoIE happened after BTAS (explaining why suits and such changed and fixing the Robin timeline issue), and that similar to what happened in Rebirth that the constant time traveling in JL-JLU caused some pre-Crisis stuff to "come back" and memories of things that couldn't have happened in post-Crisis continuity exist because of cracks in Hypertime. Also Red Hood is now a thing... thanks, Crisis!

@eman2863 10 месяцев назад

I personally like the idea of Barry existing It fleshes out the universe that there are heroes out there who came to be and fell Plus it adds a bit to Wally

@mattjohnson6606 9 месяцев назад

I'm content with Wally being the DCAU Flash, but I do think it adds some depth by having Barry exist.

@virgoolokun3088 9 месяцев назад

Thank you for uploading. Wow, seeing Mr. Dwayne McDuffie threw me off. Rest in peace, Legend.

@tesloche9349 10 месяцев назад

I like the idea of Barry existing, cuz its very wholesome imaging him training Wally on how to become Flash kind of like a father figure to Wally, teaching a kid to ride a bike

@alexchilders5461 9 месяцев назад

I like the idea of Barry just being his uncle and living a normal life with Iris. I also like the idea of Barry being erased from everyone’s mind in the speedforce kinda like they did Wally in the comics

@Rudster14 4 месяца назад

When I was a kid watching Justice League I didn't know about Barry Allen so Wally West was always my flash!

@natedavis450 9 месяцев назад

I definitely like the idea of Barry being in the DCAU, even if it's just bread crumbs here and there to get fans wondering. Wally's reaction to Batman's "death" seems like a good indicator that Wally DID lose someone, most likely being Barry

@Kyle_Noronha 10 месяцев назад

I don't mind that Barry has been unseen in the DCAU. The universe worked best with their own unique continuity. Just like how Tim was a Tim/Jason hybrid well before btac.

@sadkeny 9 месяцев назад

Im fine with it being Wally the whole time. The transition into manta sleep is goated

@dmmtachmonite2132 9 месяцев назад

I do like Barry being this behind the scenes character that could have existed. It adds a depth to the world that makes it feel like things have been happening before we start the show, and will keep happening once it’s over.

@raygun8308 9 месяцев назад

Barry paradox’s himself by turning into the lightning bolt that turns wally into the one and ONLY flash

@joeker5208 10 месяцев назад

Always been more of a Wally West fan, but if Barry did exist than I’m more than fine with it. Especially since that would mean that Wally wore that awesome Kid Flash outfit

@Normania-is-here 9 месяцев назад

Fr the kid flash outfit is honestly better then the actual flash outfit tbh

@joeker5208 9 месяцев назад

@@Normania-is-here I can see and respect that. I love both so much though that I could never decide

@Normania-is-here 9 месяцев назад

@@joeker5208 kid flash’s outfit looks much more…energetic somehow to me. I dunno how, it just feels like something someone FULL of energy would wear

@Ryu_zero393 9 месяцев назад

@@Normania-is-here it would be great if they did his rebirth suit

@joeker5208 9 месяцев назад

@@Ryu_zero393if we ever get a DCAU Flash movie, it better be on the frigging list

@uchihaability 10 месяцев назад

I like the idea that Barry existed in the background, and that Batman saw him in the same light that he does in the DCAMU. Impressed by his fast and efficient work in Central City, so he holds Wally to that same standard on the JL team. Great video guys!

@smbcollector 9 месяцев назад

I really hope you guys see this comment, because this joke you did at 1:54 was too relevant to me. Let me explain: Recently I got sick and passed most of my time binging this channel and also re-watching Justice League (thanks to this channel making me want to). When I grew too tired though due to my sickness, I'd have plenty of nights and naps where I deliriously rolled around trying to sleep -- you know how it is -- and the two things I found myself listening to to try lulling me to sleep were a RU-vid video of calming ocean sounds, or albums of one of my favorite bands, Rammstein! So now seeing this joke about "soothing, sleepy sounds", Rammstein, and on this channel... it's like it was written specifically for me a couple weeks ago. Anyways, thanks for reading, and thanks for all the entertaining content.

@dcauwatchtower 9 месяцев назад

Awesome haha

@ionekoa 3 месяца назад

If Barry was the original flash and Wally fought alongside batman with him, it would explain why batman is so protective of flash. slightly different than his relationship with robin, he's more of an uncle or godfather.

@DWViking4 9 месяцев назад

I like Barry being canon, honestly I was always on board with him being in STAS and dying in between for Wally to become Flash in Justice League. Awesome video James!

@Krispy_Krame 10 месяцев назад

I don't think this is the case in most media, but in my head it would make sense that even in an endless multiverse, each individual universe has their own diverging timelines (back to the future style). So maybe the DCAU's supplemental materials that don't quite fit into what we saw on screen are actually just different timelines where events are just *slightly* different.

@weathermangohanssj4 9 месяцев назад

Surly you mean similer but "not quite the same."

@cortonusyt 9 месяцев назад

I really like the idea of Barry existing, and personally would love to see some kind of OFFICIALLY canon tie in with him and Wally as kf in it

@atree5915 9 месяцев назад

the ad was so fast i couldn't even react, and before i knew it i watched the whole thing

@driveasandwich6734 10 месяцев назад

4:22 I love that acknowledgement that Buried Alien *is* the Earth-One Barry Allen after Crisis on Infinite Earths.

@ryanlindstrom9362 10 месяцев назад

Personally my favorite flash is Wally so I’m beyond okay with him just being the flash, but I love the idea that either Barry retired and doesn’t want to deal with it anymore or that he died as it builds more character for Wally

@twoshirts1842 3 месяца назад

I love the OG Speedsters fit man. Something about that helmet is sick

@Prop_Crafting 9 месяцев назад

That transition got a chuckle out of me, good job.

@KingofKarnies 9 месяцев назад

Santa is fast. He just burns all his speed for the year in one night.

@CommanderSteelTrap 10 месяцев назад

Ah yes, the best Flash and my personal favourite hero go all time.

@RobinRhombus2 Месяц назад

I like the idea of Barry and Eobard deleting each other from existence.

@tylerpitcher4415 2 месяца назад

I just found your channel today thankful for all the comic history and lore I can dive into now that I’ve gotten to most of varientcomics and comicstorians backlog

@tytheaniman497 9 месяцев назад

I was very shocked that the Flash was actually Wally West instead of Barry Allen. Which did explain his behavior.😄

@darthzuul3155 10 месяцев назад

I think it's cool that Barry could've existed. I like the idea of Pre Crisis versions of the DCAU. Like OG Black Canary, Red Tornado, Barry, and Hal were all on that team or something.

@TweezyJay 7 месяцев назад

Leaving this here for my future self, I found your channel with this video. Time to go binge the whole thing now!

@AussieDragoon 9 месяцев назад

My headcanon, based on nothing in the actual DCAU but more on the comics, is that Barry retired to the Legion time period (30th or 31st century, whatever it is on a given Tuesday) with Iris after some battle with Thawne had him wind up there. From there he left Central City to Wally (possibly originally from Keystone City like the comics, but it's not important if he is). Wally, not feeling totally worthy of taking Barry's position (despite his boasting), continued to operate as if the original Flash never left which is why he was so protective of his Secret Identity even up until Starcrossed. It'd help nicely tie together some non-quite-canon by DCAU adjacent stuff like Earth-12 and Jay's appearance in the tie-in comics, since Wally's trying to pass himself off as Barry to people who don't know them so it going from Jay to him as the second Flash works there, and Barry wouldn't be in the Speed Force yet by the Beyond time period if he's still alive 1000 years in the future. Plus it ties into Impulse's original, where Barry had kids in the future and his son had Bart who traveled back in time to be helped by Wally. Just fun little idea for where Barry could be (and how he could show up for the Flash Museum opening through time travel).

@derrickthebloke1472 10 месяцев назад

I think that Barry being in the DCAU while it would be cool, kind of takes away from Wally’s story in a few ways.

@hiddenjello61 10 месяцев назад

I like that Barry might of existed off screen it gives a bit more depth and history to the DCAU

@hezekiahramirez6965 9 месяцев назад

Might have*

@Shawnodachi 9 месяцев назад

Great video as always! I love learning more DCAU lore

@zanebeatty3158 9 месяцев назад

I like the open ended Barry version. That was a really well done video James love all the media edits and that was a crazy mouse pad.

@stevie2.040 10 месяцев назад

Great to see this video come out! Been waiting on it since you responded to me on twitter! Glad you responded and built my hype for this!

@sherry-annsasmellyshrew6516 10 месяцев назад

I Personally Think That Thawne Is Responsible For Barry's Absence, Like, Thawne Actually Managed To Succeed In Erasing Him, Which Caused Everyone To Forget He Ever Existed, Minus Wally (Due To His Connection To The Speed Force), Who Changed From His Kid Flash Suit To A Mimic Of Barry's Suit, In Honor Of His Fallen Friend/Mentor But Ehh

@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 10 месяцев назад

Imma steal this headcannon.

@sherry-annsasmellyshrew6516 10 месяцев назад

@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 Nooooooo

@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 10 месяцев назад

@@sherry-annsasmellyshrew6516 Haha It was me @sherry-anns I was the one Who stole your Headcannon leaving you seeming like the one to take mine.

@srstriker6420 10 месяцев назад

I wish they could have brought in Hunter Zolomon earlier

@sherry-annsasmellyshrew6516 10 месяцев назад

@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 You Monster

@IwnlMask 9 месяцев назад

Great video, this vid brought me to your channel, I hope that Barry will be shown on screen and I hope he is infact cannon

@erkscollectibles 9 месяцев назад

I noticed that Flash insert In JL Paradise Lost years ago, but never saw discussion of it anywhere online. Thank you for confirming I'm not insane lol

@kevinlassberg 10 месяцев назад

I think it would have been a welcome addition if Barry had been included in the DCAU in a more concrete way, but like you said, Wally was my first Flash and therefore he's always been _my_ Flash.

@CatsClaw44 9 месяцев назад

Thankfully you are in the minority with that.

@stooky4268 10 месяцев назад

I think Barry existing means a lot. It fills out the timeline of the DCAU, and gives more credence to the idea that heroes existed before Batman, as is often theorized. Given how they were planning to have Barry and Hal show up, I think that's probably what the "only Kid Flash and Flash exist" means. It's probably more of a "Impulse doesn't exist" than anything else.

@functional200 9 месяцев назад

I like the idea of characters or plot points existing off screen cause it gives the producers places to possibly expand on if they ever get brought back to work on that series.

@WanlinLi-nz2pv 3 дня назад

this is such an insanely content-rich and fun video, I love it, yet somehow "BUT STAY ON TARGET" got stuck firmly in my head by the end lol

@byronboydstun2222 9 месяцев назад

I like the idea of Barry originally being the flash but due to events with the reverse flash messing up all of the cannon he can only exist inside the speed force which is outside of time. Lets say he arranged events so that wally would fill his place with his csi job and the mantle as the flash. The reverse flash and barry tampering with the timeline explains why this video was so hard to make.

@BakedBerryPie 10 месяцев назад

I have always just felt like they made Wally that universe's only Flash and I was always good with that. Having Barry just forces the need for so much more explanation that the universe doesn't need

@dillondewitt3952 5 месяцев назад

The algorithm brought me to your channel from Owen Likes Comics or similar channels and I'm pretty hyped that it did! I'm on a big DC kick right now having just subscribed to DC Infinite and these videos are suuuuper dope! I grew up with the DCAU and these videos are so well researched and put together. Keep it up, brother!

@dcauwatchtower 5 месяцев назад

Thank you so much!

@kazeys_art 5 месяцев назад

i used to roleplay specifically this version of the flash/wally back in early 2014, and i had this very same conundrum when attempting to connect the pieces together. it really boils down to the overarching theme of a barry-wally fusion, as like you mentioned, there's quite a few DCAU cartoon characters who get this treatment, something completely unique to the DCAU that actually gives it some charm. (just don't ask what marvel and DC were doing in april of 1996.) as a result - i simply boiled down to what i liked for "flash" rather than "wally", and just gave barry allen a normal life with iris, and the note that he was someone wally greatly adored, thus privy to his flashy secret (that throwaway 'uncle' line.) i did comb through pretty much every piece of available DCAU and tangentially adjacent media at the time, and came to the conclusion yeah, there's just too much in the tie-in comics that throw out what the cartoon had previously established, it was more trying to sell the overall idea to both barry AND wally fans but SEPARATELY. every one of these tie-in comics seemed very focused on 'how much of the mainline DC timeline can we sneak in here to try and merge the comic's relevance into the cartoon', such as characters like kon-el showing up for a day only to be mysteriously wiped from the timeline (though there is an unused design somewhere for a STAS 90's kon-el, if my memory serves me right) you can even see this in a more recent "we are definitely b:tas continuity" run where they ... just straight up said jason todd existed separately from tim to sort of... squeeze the element of death in the family trauma ... that was already present in tim's story? speaking of, the beyond comics are also super notorious for this. at some point it really becomes less coherent and more corporate saying "oooh, look, we're dangling your fave in front of you like a shiny set of keys." your video really gave me some new thoughts that i probably agree with more than the beliefs about it i held over a decade ago, though, and i'm so happy that someone else has finally recognized how absolutely horrendous it is to explain!

@akabeaster6611 10 месяцев назад

While my favorite Flash is Barry, you can make an argument that Wally is the best Flash (I’m referring to the DC comics versions). Which might explain why the DCAU chose Wally.

@thechadethan9072 10 месяцев назад

Also the fact the show was coming out while Wally was the main flash and Barry was dead in comics

@KiLlACaMrOn94 9 месяцев назад

“That’s metal… in ya lungs!” Really got me!!😭😭😂

@JoseMorales-lw5nt 9 месяцев назад

23:34 - 23:38/ THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU! 60 years later, and my man Bobby 'Boris' Pickett is still relevant in pop culture. Special thanks to Ralph Wiggum of SIMPSONS fame for using this as his 'Valentine' song to Lisa...😂❤

@endercreeper6545 7 месяцев назад

Similar but a little different to what one of the top comments said. I like the idea that thawne hated Barry so much he decided to erase him from the timeline resulting in himself being erased too

@ashleytuchin7693 9 месяцев назад

I'd like to think that Barry was running around the DCAU somewhere. Or maybe...maybe the DCAU Wally was actually Reverse Flash, who erased Barry from existence and took his place.😲 Also, I need that shirt!

@cdswint 10 месяцев назад

I do like the idea of Barry existing at some point in the DCAU, and then Wally taking over. In the comics, one of Wally’s main motivations was always living up to his uncle’s legacy. And while that motivation goes largely unsaid in the DCAU (other than in some of the tie-in material you mentioned), I like the idea that throughout it all, he’s just trying to make Barry proud.

@user-sw5if4wi6u Месяц назад

What if Reverse Flash actually drained Barry to the Speedforce or erased him from history, so that's why no one remembrts him and there is no hint that proves he ever existed, but Wally remembers because of his connection to the Speedforce ?

@CjackProductions 9 месяцев назад

Your transition into 😂 sleep mask was brilliant

@Iguanzilla 10 месяцев назад

I like the idea of Barry being in the universe because it feels like Barry and Wally are a package deal

@josephtaylor6413 9 месяцев назад

I like the idea of Barry existing as wallys uncle, and they work on forensic science together, but Wally became flash instead of Barry

@theshamelesssociety7602 9 месяцев назад

I like the idea that it's open for interpretation cause I mean them doing it this way resulted in you being able to make a awesome video dissecting the dcau and breaking down how he could be or isn't

@kakarot6202 9 месяцев назад

I like the idea of him existing but I just wish that we saw him in the universe for at least a phew episodes

@trevorwestofficial 10 месяцев назад

I like the idea of Barry having existed. But my personal head Canon is that the the DCAU flash is the young justice wally after he disappeared at the end of season 2. He might even have memory loss. This gives me closure for young justice wally and a decent explanation for no Barry in the DCAU.

@bobplafe1073 Месяц назад

That batgirl mousepad at 9:51 is crazy

@joeker5208 2 месяца назад

Maybe that Classic Kid Flash suit was just a old Flash costume Wally used to wear. It doesn’t necessarily have to be Kid Flash, just like how that Hermes-looking helmet is supposedly being apart of an old Wally outfit, and not tied to an in-verse Jay Garrick

@ShinySephiroth1 10 месяцев назад

Buried Alien! Yes! 😂

@catswithlasers 9 месяцев назад

I personally love the idea of Barry having existed at one point. It really fleshes out the DCAU world more and builds up the mythos of the characters and gives more weight to Wally being the Flash, as he's carrying on the legacy of Barry.

@Krystalmyth 9 месяцев назад

Your recent work is soooo improved from last year. You've put a lot of work on this. I appreciate your media first approach instead of having a camera on someone the entire video.

@dcauwatchtower 9 месяцев назад

Thanks! Apples and oranges, really. We loved making last year’s videos as well, and I wouldn’t say they’re any better or worse. Just a completely different animal. Put a lot of heart and work into those videos, too.

@WarriorSmurf 9 месяцев назад

In that episode, iirc they briefly played the theme (and sound effects) from the first live-action Flash theme song. The Flash on that show was Barry, so. Also, Barry debuted 11 years earlier than you said he did (in 1956 not '67).

@greatwill5425 9 месяцев назад

I like the idea of Barry Allen existing in the DCAU, because of legacies. Barry being a mentor to Wally and him being Kid Flash in the past before the DCAU is a great thing.