Graphics in Video indicates restriction to "less than five pax"And "less than six seats."The restriction actually reads "six seats max" and " no more than five pax" plus pilot.
So effectively not much has changed except you no longer have to find an FAA designated "AME" but still have to meet the same medical standards with almost the same frequency, with a doctor of your choice. Thanks AOPA for polishing a turd.
Three questions: (1) Can I fly IFR if I have a basic med and the rating? (2) Can I fly to Mexico and Canada with basic med? (3) Is aircraft insurance generally higher when flying basic med?
I would love to pilot a plane but unfortunately I think my bad heart and a medication I take disqualifies me from flying and whats really bad is outside of automobiles,trucks, and RVs, aviation is one of things I am highly interested in. Since I found a few aviation sites on RU-vid all I basically watch now is videos about airplanes.
Poor vision doesn’t disqualify patients - if its correctable. Many other medical conditions shouldn’t disqualify pilots if correctable. As a psychiatrist, I’d include treated and controlled ADHD, and Depression. (I’d far rather any pilot with depression be treated-than “hide it,” to pass a physical). I’d expect them to not fly if impaired. Just like if glasses missing or broken, etc.
A few weeks ago I had my exam for a Class III medical. I admitted that I had one episode of Atrial Fibrillation one year ago lasting less than 24 hours. Wow! I had to get an echocardiogram, an EKG, a heart monitor for 3 days, a stress test, and a Sleep Apnea overnight test. I passed all the heart tests with flying colors. The test did show that I have sleep apnea, so I am now on a CPAP machine and all my numbers are now normal. The Flight Surgeon has all this information and will not return my emails or calls. My Class III is now expired. The question is can I go to my Internist with all these tests results and have him certify me for Basic Med? I have a Stemme Motor glider and a Columbia 400 so I can stay within the parameters for the aircraft. I'm ready to fire the flight surgeon. What are my options?
Needed is a complete rundown of the medications and conditions where there will be a deferral of the 3rd class then what one should expect and what would need to be done. I said complete! People are not medical experts so how would they know what would cause a deferral?
Dang it! I thought is was going to be able to get one of these but now i got to go through a big deal to get me 3rd class. I just had a stent put in and the FAA wants a book of information plus a stress test. Have not had a certificate since 2002. Oh well it was a shot. Thanks for the informative video.
Same here. Heart attack in 2004, stent put in, not a single issue since, not even a case of angina. Getting through the FAA requirements after a heart attack is next to impossible. But hey I can go fly an ultralight all over the place - makes no sense.
One correction (in case anyone watches this now -- yes, I know there are newer videos and info out there since this was made). You CANNOT act as safety pilot unless you are designated PIC (which may give problems with insurance policies) per an FAQ on the FAA website at www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/basic_med/media/basicmed_faq.pdf which specifically says: Q25: Can I use BasicMed to act as a safety pilot, rather than holding a medical? A: Only if you’re acting as PIC while performing the duties of safety pilot. The statutory language prescribing BasicMed said it only applies to people acting as PIC. BasicMed cannot be exercised by safety pilots who are not acting as PIC but are required crewmembers.
Can you make an update Basic Med video, with more details on conditions, DUI ...for example if there’s a time frame for DUIS ...if you had hospitalizations for depression like 10 years ago ...if you can give more info around that, because I know there’s a lot of people looking to see options or if consulting an AME would be a good option. Thanks.
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I am over 40 and thought you had to get a physical every 6 months now. Isn't that correct? Also do you need any med at all to get your sport pilots license?
I am thinking about getting my PPL. I have several questions. 1) How do I find out if my family doctor can give me my FAA Medical license? 2) Is it true after I have my FAA Medical license that my family doctor can fill out my CMEC? 3) The RU-vid video I just watched was from 2006, has any rules changed concerning medical license?
It may be a little late for this conversation but maybe someone can provide an answer... I am currently training for my PPL so do I qualify for the option of BasicMed or do I need to get my first certificate, the 3rd class medical, from an AME... I ask because in the AOPA rules it states this... • If you’ve never held a medical certificate, you will need to get an FAA medical certificate, regular or special issuance, from an AME one time only. Thanks for any help.
"If you can drive one of those huge SUVs that weighs 6000+lbs, even though you're blind and deaf, then you should be able to fly an aircraft too!" .............ROFLMAO!! 😂😂😂
Does anyone know if this will loosen up the regs on SSRI use? I had to spend over $1,200 on cogscreen and Senior AME fees in order to get my class 3. I imagine a line item on the basicmed checklist for my primary care that says... Is the patient stable on their SSRI... Wishful thinking maybe.
If my medical history changes in between my medical exam do I need to notify my medical examiner? I was recently diagnosed with Obstructive sleep apnea
No, you will put it on your next medical application. Also, if you have anything occur that would be a disqualifying condition or you think you might be, that would be when you want to contact your AME to see if you can still exercise the privileges of your medical.
Excellent run through of what is now defined and needed for BASIC MED. Once again, the FAA were their natural selves, pricks, about making any rational rule changes. The congress with AOPA pushing the hell out of them actually did something good for us lowly, poor General Aviation pilots and owners. My dues actually did some good. My annual is about due so I will be flying more, now. Since this applies only within CONUS, we should restrict GA flights from foreign shores until they have reciprocity and allow US pilots to fly within their borders with BASIC MED. Hear that AOPA and Congress.
Ya have a good point about restricting foreign flights! Most states work the same way with reciprocity regarding concealed carry permit, they will reciprocate based on the sole reason that another state is willing to with them.
So I have a question: I became a Private Pilot in 2012, so my medical has been up since 2017. I'm ready to start flying and think the first step is to get my medical. Do you suggest the BasicMed or just get the 3rd class medical. I have no health issues.
My concern is if is better To take laser surgery before I do my first AME test. I’m wearing glasses, in order to get class 1 is better to do laser surgery right? Then how long I have to wait after the surgery tl apply for the test ? Your recommendation will be very helpful 🙏🏻
I have cerebral palsy but I passed the CDL physical it's very very very minor should I be okay and I've suffered from some depression and stuff as a child but not no more but I guess if I don't mention that then they don't know
Well, you can get a medical with Type 2 Diabetes, I am Type 2 and I fly professionally! As long as you are treating it with oral medication, diet, and exercise. and have no adverse problems and your A1c's are under 9.0 you will get a medical. What happens is that your doctor documents the condition, you then take that to an AME, to do a medical it then gets kicked up to the Regional Flight Surgeon and in 14 days or less, you will have your medical, when I was diagnosed, I told my AME and he put me in touch the regional flight surgeon, and It took 3 months because I needed that much time to show no ill effects from the medication. You should not have much of a problem.
That sucks Donald.. sorry to hear. I feel you. Have a whole slew of things at only age 29 now, like drug abuse in my past (it's OK by the FAA once oyu're clean as long as I have been, but still..), on 4 psych meds, psych history, one suicide attempt (like 7 or more years ago), a few psych hospitalizations going back before 5 years ago, being 70 lbs overweight (250 lbs 6 feet)... high blood pressure untreated... For now or forever, I'll always be able to stick with simulator flying and be a passenger...Maybe just start hanging around KOXC, the closest airport to me and talking with students and instructors. I wish Type II diabetes has an outright cure so people like you could fly... or get a PPL. Maybe you can get a sport license I"m not sure. Take care.
George Semel im a type 2 diabetic and about to start my training to be a sport pilot but now im thinking about giving private pilot a try, thnx for the info...
Dude! Come on man, get off of your ass and solve this issue yourself. No Doctors necessary. First educate yourself on your condition. Understand blood sugar, A1C, Insulin (and what it does to the body), and how to treat type 2 with diet and exercise. Here is how: 1. Fasting goal: eat once a day, but start with a 18 hour fast by simply skipping breakfast(That means nothing except black coffee, or tea, etc until lunch). You should work your feeding window down from 6 hours to only one hour. I eat once a day - no prob! 2. Get on a ketogenic diet plan w/ 7-10 servings of non-starch veggies per day. Keep total carbs under 20 grams per day. 3. Exercise: start with walking daily. Increase distance every week. See Dr. Jason Fung ("The obesity code" - book) and Dr. Eric Berg's videos here on RU-vid for detailed information about keto and fasting. Your issues can ALL be solved! Millions of us have bypassed metformin, insulin, and other treatments and have told the establishment medical industry (drug dealers) to kiss our collective asses by curing ourselves! You can do it too! Come man! I did! So can you. I had neuropathy in my hands and feet, couldn't play my guitar---- Not now bro!! All symptoms are gone. I also have lost 55 pounds. My choice of exercise is rowing on a Concept 2 rowing machine. It gives you the most bang for the buck when considering workout time. It's also easy on the joints. AND it doesn't matter how big you may happen to be. Sit down and start rowing. FYI - there is an entire community online that row with the concept 2 rower. Good luck, see you at Oshkosh!!
Can a heart murmur be a no-go for PPL? I was born with a murmur and never had restrictions. Also what about if you have reported chest pain in the past then went for a nuclear stress test and past with no issues?
6000 pounds? Yikes! My 2-seater airplane is just over 600 pounds. Even the Cessnas I used to fly were 1200 to 1600 pounds if I remember correctly. One killer is, I love to fly to and in the Atacama Andes in Peru, Chile, Bolivia, Argentina. Two problems. The Basic Physical doesn't apply outside the USSA. Second, some of the valleys between the Atacama Andes aren't much lower than 18,000 feet (and some of the mountaintops are over 21,000 feet). 3rd class seems much simpler and not that expensive.
Are there any exceptions to taking the Online Medical Education course? E.g. if you're a physician, can you just send a copy of your state medical license?
No mention of if my former medical is expired and it was first obtained in 2009... he talk about if you've never had a medical and before 2006... Plus you can't go above 18,000 without an IFR cert.
Yeah, but.....my personal physician is an AME and he will not do Basic Med as many AME's will not. SO It may be harder for me to find a physician to do a Basic Med than to just get a Class III. Finding another Dr. in my system may prove interesting with insurance issues. Crappy headache I am afraid. I will probably have to just pay $200.00 in any case. So the only gain is if you may have had some issue preventing a Class III. Oh, you can also instruct without a Class III medical, but you cannot act as or log PIC time unless you have a Med. (So primary instruction may be an issue since your student is not PIC) Unless something has changed, that is the case. This came up in a CFI Refresher course I took. Any other CFI want to challenge my claim?. I am open to it.
How old can the initial medical certificate be? I originally got one in 1996, but I then retired from the military and left flying. Now I want to get back into it. 22 years later.
Why don't they just say "if you can keep it up, you can fly it"! Seriously, though, any progression in the FARs as far as GA is concerned is all centered around satisfying the need of an aging pilot community to keep flying. The FAA is doing absolutely nothing to draw new people into general aviation. This condition has existed for decades. There has been a recent upswing in light aircraft design but the market is headed for collapse when all their customers die off over the next couple of decades. The good news for me, as a flying A&P, is that I will be able to finally have a hangar full of my own planes when I retire!
I have a class A commerical drivers license and by federal law i keep a current medical card to do my job as a truck driver ....is that sufficient? Also under 40, im 36....
I have a mild case of cerebral palsy in my right arm I do hold a valid. Medical card for commercial driver's license I saw under the regular FAA certificate you might need a waiver what about basicmed
Like to know if.?? I had passed the written test and had a student license with 62 hours flying time back in 1975. Do I still have to take the written test over again because thinking of getting back into flying. Thanks
Hi Rodney! Yes, the written exam is only good for 24 months after passing. You will need to retake the test. Here's a link learn.fly8ma.com/register/flight-engineer/
So I follow a high-fat/low-carb regiment and as a result my LDL is pretty darn high, but the mainstream medical advice to lower your cholesterol numbers is trash according to most modern nutritional literature on CVD, and since I lost weight and feel a whole lot better I'm not following the quackery advice of cutting my saturated fat or taking statins by any doctor. Will my chosen doctor lie and check off that I have an impending heart condition because of high LDL? This is why I'm still doing the 3rd class.
I'm trying to quit ciggs but only ever lasted when was smoking legal cannabis instead. I've flew couple times, loved it. freeing up some money soon and would be down to get some flight training but really wanna not get lung cancer so guess I'm banned from flying?? not really fond of having to give up right to medical privacy. it's one thing if there is proven negligence via due process to then make such things done as probationary scenario but guilty till for over rights blows. gonna shop other member states before I blow anymore$$ in this one, freedom has been taken on most everything in one way or another.
Many student pilots in the 70s reported that pot ruined their eye-hand co-ordination and made landings impossible, even two or three days later. Bad idea.
looks like the FAA suggests 8 hours of sleep the night before a flight, what about people that never sleep 8 hours like me I only sleep max of 4 hours per day if i sleep more I feel excessively tired and laggy?
All I can say is never get diagnosed for sleep apnea because then you have to provide the FAA software download from your cpap machine your sleeping 6 hours plus a night and a note signed by your sleep doctor they issues a SI which expires ever 2 years takes 6 months for the FAA to approve again. I saved a co-worker he had already scheduled a doctor for a sleep study I told him about the FAA problems he cancelled. The issues is sleep industry is a billion dollar industry and when you get a sleep study it's very difficult to sleep because of all the wires and test probes on your head, face, and neck. Just about everyone is diagnosed as having sleep apnea if you snore at all so they can sell you a $2500 machine and $100 a month in supplies all paid for by your insurance. I told co-worker drop some weight and seemed to resolve the snoring at night no problems with the FAA he wants to get his PPL.
I already had my 3rd Class Medical Cert. Can my CDL School bus license and medical be more than enough for what the FAA requires since our medical exams are more strict and we periodically are tested for illegal drugs? Second question, do these requirements include flights between sunset and sunrise. Thank you for this informative video and you had me rolling on the part of taking a huge plane and making it go on a diet so you can legally fly it (LOL). Have a great flight.
You have to have held a FAA medical, DOT medicals do not count as they are less strict on the medication and physical requirements. If you have a 3rd class or basic med medical, you would be able to operate an aircraft as a private pilot at night, provided it is so equipped.
Hey there Jon Unfortunately, I do have a DUI from about 4 years ago. I am currently thinking about a future career in aviation however, everything is vague and I cannot seem to get a clear sense of the issue. If you or anyone else here has some feedback I would love the help. Thank you , Ross
@@ctsteve1967 for further info on colour vision problems and possible solutions, please check my (lengthy) commentary under RU-vid video entitled "Farnsworth D-15 test", under same writer's name. Good luck if you are experiencing colour vision problems yourself...
Michael Harris hello and thank for answering, but that can't be right. The ramp weigh on 850 TBM is 7430 lbs. takeoff is 7394 lbs. thanks. Fly8ma.com never answer back.
You CAN fly if you're colorblind, just not professionally for hire or for the airlines. The FAA will issue you a restricted license for DAY flight only and something that says, "not by color signals or something". Further if your color blindness is not severe (mild to moderate) you can even fly as an Airline pilot. For that, you've got to be able to recognize and demonstrate to an FAA examiner that you can y you can tell the green, red and white lights that are being flashed from the Control Tower at an airport.
This is great news. Now I just need to figure out the cost. I've heard about the light gun test. Any idea what this test is called or where I can find more information about it? According to Enchroma's isahara test I'm either mild or moderate. Thanks!!!
Hi I’m currently a CDL-A holder and have DOT medical which is required when operating a commercial vehicle with a GWVR of 80,000 pounds, will this help me or do I have to go to an AME?! Thanks
I'm 36 and just getting started as well. There are plenty of options as far as a career goes. It may seem overwhelming at first but the hardest part is simply getting started. Once you get rolln' with it, things will fall into place. Just don't get discouraged, there are a few snooty pilots out there but for the most part everyone wants to help and see you succeed. Find a CFI that you can jive with, if you aren't comfortable, find someone you like. Hope this helps!
My 3rd class medical expires in July. Do I need to immediately get a doctors exam or am I within the 4 year window? I guess I need to take the medical self assessment course since that is every two year but I am curious about the doctor visit.
Only when government becomes a bloated, pernicious, monolithic, insatiable, over-arching, power hungry octopus do we have to have a “solution” this complicated ...
Great info. I guess one question is, how does this effect 1st and 2nd class med? Does 3rd class still exist? also, i'm an enlisted aviator for the US Air Force, (I am not a pilot, I am a Flight Engineer). I have a "3rd class" medical through the USAF on a DD form 2992 (previously AF1042) -- our 3rd class is basically a 1st class, done every year, the only difference is that there's a few exceptions being made for eyesight and a few other minor issues that might prevent someone from obtaining a full 1st class. I have been looking into getting my private and eventually commercial (through an associates & part 141 training program). Does my USAF medical count towards a BasicMed, or do I need to go see an AME off-base first and get an exam to be legal? someone else brought it up also, they say you cannot fly outside the US? what if I wanted to fly across the border into Canada? would I need to go get a 3rd class if it still exists?
Contact the Aerospace Medical Certification Division in Oklahoma 405-954-4821. When I called on my records from 40 years ago they had them. Your 1042 should be no problem, my flight surgeon was always an MD.
Does anyone on here know if you can get a medical cert with sleep apnea? I have been treating it for over 2 years now with no issues. Would i have to do it like i do a DOT physical where i have to give them my cpap results for a certain amount of time back to show its being treated? Any (constructive) help on this would be appreciated.
Hey Jon, are pilots still able to operate using their third class medical like they were before? For example, if I met all the requirements previously to fly with a third class medical, can I still fly above 18000' MSL with more than 6 passengers?
If you have a standard third class that is valid then yes all the old rules still apply, this just allows pilots without a current third class to operate under these new rules.
Might be able to get a STC of some sort to have the 7th seat removed or placarded un-usable. Probably wouldn't be too difficult to get field approval from your local FSDO to comply with the new rules.
Basic Med is still broken. The goal of Congress was that if you had a valid driver's license, you should be able to fly an airplane. Instead, however, we have a broken system where you still have to get permission from a doctor, and most doctor's won't give that because they don't want the liability. Instead, you have to meet the same standards as always. Still the same ridiculous bureaucratic hoops, because the FAA is all about control.
It also totally and completely breaks it for any new pilots that have never held a certificate. Seems completely useless.. and stupid. And heartbreaking for many. Somebody who had a medical YEARS and years ago who is in considerably WORSE physical condition can get basic med. While somebody trying to get their pilot certificate NOW and just by a hair for whatever reason cannot get a 3rd class medical is left out. There first and foremost should have been a provision for new pilots who have never held a 3rd class to be able to start with basic med. I really don't get it and I do not understand why this was not provided for.
Is it impossible for me to get a medical certificate that's good enough to become a private pilot when I am : 1) 70 lbs overweight (at 6 feet tall) 2) Have high blood pressure I don't treat with medication... marginally high but higiher than perfect. 135/95 is about the highest Ill normally get but sometimes higher. 3) Have a psychiatric history, but am stable now however 3a) On 4 psych meds. 3 of them are controlled. One's an amphetamine. The other two are a benzodiazepine (clonazepam) and an opioid, Suboxone. Otherwise, Neurontin. 4) History of substance abuse but 5 or more years clean now. Actually clean, not just something I'm saying. Not a drop of alcohol. But yeah, I'm on strong meds. Age 29..male... smoker. I'm thinking no, but maybe if I get into better health it's possible? Basically lose weight and try to get off some of my medications? I know some psych meds like SSRIs are generally OK, though. Thanks for reading.
2 and 3a would be problems. However, the only way you can get a definite answer is if you call the FAA or you doctor. Also smoking may be a problem because you cannot smoke in any aircraft.
Still waiting, hell by the time they figure these new sp rules. There will Uber drones flying around. No pilot or licenses required. More weight and speed. Not that much of an ask. Let us fly da20. Tomahawk. 152
I have no right to create arbitrary rules for people that want to use their property to fly and then attack you if you don't follow my rules.... and neither do any of you... So how did the people working for the faa get it? Spoiler: they don't have the right.
