But listen carefully cause batman gave more weakness than neutralizing the hammer... Vibranium is great against his hammer... Remember when thor swings his hammer on cap's shield?
Regarding iron man. His suit is immune to EMP and Jarvis would have fire walls onto of firewalls ontop of firewalls. Iron-man just like batman has continuity plans for everyone (e.g. Hulkbuster, Thourbuster, ect) so iron-man would 100% have contingencies for EMP attacks or Jarvis Attacks. But attacking Tony's ego and making him over extend and push himself too far is a very good idea.
Nah attacking his ego won’t work but let’s say he did that Tony would attack Batman and make him blamed for why his family died even though his father is to be blamed
Also, it should be noted that while he has suck contingencies for powerhouses like Thor and Hulk, he would fail in the end when they really show him a bit of their power, and the same would happen to Batman
@@ThorGoatinson Yes, but no. The suits Stark makes are meant to TEMPORARILY stall the Avengers in question while help is coming. The Hulkbuster is specifically mentioned to ONLY be effective for so long.
@Deathkri I know that. I'm addressing the fact that it was being said that Batman can do it because Ironman is able to handle Thor and Hulk, which is, in fact, not true. It is more like you said, I just didn't mention it.
Batman should have a contingency plan for the boys Homelander, Black noir, The Deep, A-Train, Queen Maeve, translucent, and starlight. Contingency plan code: Vought.
I also have to point out along with everyone else. Thor doesn't need the hammer to use his powers, the hammer just acts as a conduit to better control them. Iron man always has backup contingencies of backup contingencies for everything. Captain America is interesting, he would rather step aside and not risk anything if he would be compromised in any way as his honor wont let him lose himself. Only in that alternate reality where he became a hydra agent, yet it was only a means to infiltrate hydra to take it down when the time is right. Hawkeye can still shoot perfectly even if he is blinded, so that wont work either. I mean, there was an episode where he trained with a blindfold on and still hit every target. Black widow, well i doubt that would work because its been done on her before. So, she would probably be always ready for that at any moment. As for using their sense of justice against them, hypothetically speaking if their morality were compromised i dont think using their sense of justice against them would work. It also depends on the hero that would go to rescue someone they care about. Like Spiderman would definitely do that, while someone like black widow probably wouldn't. Yes i agree that there are things that could work specifically with a certain avenger, but thats also very specific things that will only work for them.
@@lordlightsknedits2274 yes, he may had his suit hacked many times, but he has counter measures to stop those hacks from doing extreme damage. Over time he has had less and less hacking attempts, and emp hits due to counter measures. It doesn't completely negate them because there are different levels of hackers and different levels of EMP. It's hard to calculate something that you haven't experienced yet. So Tony has to experience it to counter it.
The things for unknown for everyone will be unknown to Bruce as well. For everyone EVEN for Thor himself, he thought hammer was his source of power. Later with Odin's help, he found the real power. So Bruce making plan for hammer is resonable. Also for Tony, he knows EMP and Jarvis as his weakness points and he fixed those issues. So Batman should have hard time to fight with these weaknesses.
@_Tzer it doesn't matter Thor and Hulk doesn't lose to Tony with his contingencies for long at best only hold or stall them for a lil while and the same would happen to Batman
"Use sonic disruptors" "Use sonic disruptors" "Use neural disruptors" "Use sonic disruptors" "Use magnetic disruptors" "Use sonic disruptor" It's ... sort of an Interesting Idea. I'm Not Sure About the Execution.
Avengers did a whole episode where it was revealed that Falcon had extensively researched the team and through his protocols managed to almost destroy them. He almost quit the team because of it, and he revealed he got an A on the project from Nick Fury of all people. Tony Stark has heart issues. He either has shrapnel next to his heart that if his miniature arc reactor fails, he's dead or sometimes he has an artificial heart that was solved at some point. Also, he has PTSD and alcoholism.
I like how Batman is effectively sabotaging the potential use of these protocols, by haaving them make use of things that would not be a factor if the avengers in question actually went rogue(i.e. if the protocols actually need to be used). Making use of 'sense of honor' and 'sense of duty', etc. I guess he really did learn something from the Tower of Babel situation, and is also preparing for enemies getting a hold of, and making use of, the protocols.
*Iron Man* Tony Stark's intelligence is on-par with, or significantly greater than Bruce Wayne's. His armor suits are FAR more resilient than Bruce can handle. I'd argue that even Cyborg would have lots of trouble hacking into them. And Tony and J.A.R.V.I.S. working together could probably neutralize Cyborg. Also, comics Iron Man has a symbiote-like Iron Man suit that can't be separated from him. *Thor* Thor is a literal God. No one among the Justice League or their allies are even close to God-level, except maybe Wonder Woman (who is technically a half-Goddess). Thor could solo the Justice League if he fought Wonder Woman seriously (I have a feeling he may underestimate her initially, giving her a brief window to exploit, but would still be handled easily anyways). However, his unmatched strength and Asgardian principals mean he can easily be negotiated with. His powers are NOT tied to Mjolnir (except for a VERY brief time when Mjolnir was broken and reforged). Also, DC Comics has a Thor of their own, as well. *Hulk* Just lock Bruce in a room with an innocent kid or something. He wouldn't dare risk transforming in such a scenario. And if Bruce is already transformed, remember that Hulk is stupid and easy to trick. *Hawkeye* I have a feeling Green Arrow's file would be identical (aside from Hawkeye's ability being accuracy in general, not just with a bow). *Scarlet Witch* She isn't a telepath. Her power is Chaos Magic. And it's been stated that her powers are FAR stronger in the DC universe due to a higher concentration of Chaos Magic there. And putting her into an emotionally unstable state is a BAD, BAD, BAD idea. She can literally destroy the world, or even create an entirely new one if pushed hard enough. *Spider-Man* Not even mentioning his immense physical strength (assuming Bruce was aware of its true extent) is a MAJOR fumble. If he's 100% serious, he can deliver blows powerful enough to incapacitate a God. *Wolverine* Literally just drop him in a giant pool with no way up. He's physically incapable of swimming or floating. He'll be stuck in a cycle of drowning, regaining consciousness, and drowning again until he's removed from the water. Pool doesn't even need to be that deep, as long as he drowns before he can climb his way up with his claws. Just put a GIANT magnet at the bottom of a DEEP pool and he's done.
Here's a thought: This starts by saying contingencies if one of the Avengers goes rogue, then proceeds to list personal ties or ideals about honor and duty as methods to control said _rogue_ individuals. If they've truly gone rogue, those factors do not come into play. Similarly, to sedate Banner, you have to do so BEFORE Hulk goes rogue. Once Hulk is rogue, there's a 0% chance of sedating Banner.
A interesting thing to think is that if the justice league existed on the same universe as the avengers then Batman would most likely be called to be a part of the Iluminati as a representative of the Justice League, and since their whole deal is to end conflicts before they even start i am pretty sure Bruce would reveal his contigency plans and the rest of the group would agree with the idea(if i recall Reed Richards even made something similar when he created a special prison for super heroes in Civil war) and help Bruce develop them, like imagine what kind of plans could come up from the minds of Bruce, Tony, Reed and Charles working together and with also the absurd powers of Doctor Strange i feel like with that they would be able to create a fuctional plan to even the most powerful super hero
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I think we're burying the lead here: How does Batman know what Wolverine's real name is? Most of the other X-Men don't even know his name is actually James Howlett.
You should’ve put Black Panther’s file code as “Monarch” that’d be less obvious and being as the Black Panther is always the King of Wakanda, it’s like poetry, it rhymes.
That's IF the justice league can actually get a chance to use any of all these plans. Just one e or two contingency plans for each member of the Avengers won't put them down for too long, much less beat them. I love Batman, but if Bane can break him and beat him to a pulp, then so can the Hulk or Captain America.
Everything against Iron man has already been predited and Tony hace contingency for each one of them. He literally has a suit that Magneto cannot manipulate
This. But Batman fans think he can beat anyone. Tony can send a legion of armors and never has to leave the beach or the market or wherever he is, with each armor being far and away superior to anything Batman has.
Yeah, but wont stop batman to make a plan for temporarily destabilizing ironman and giving tony a run for his money. Not saying batman actually win or anything.
@JLOCC23424 99% of the time he's ever appeared in comics, cartoons, movies, and video games, Batman doesn't even cover the lower half of his face. One volley of those guided bullets from Iron Man 1 and Bruce would be popped like a balloon. I love Batman, but he's SO out of his league taking on the Invincible Iron Man.
I can speculate how in some cases these might work... BUT... I gotta point out some flaws in those contingencies. Spider-man's spider sense alerts him to danger. To contain him, put him in a situation where the danger is very unlikely to detect until it's already present, like an aerosol-based sedative, use a distraction like false hypnosis screens so he thinks the screens were what hypnotized him into slumber. From there, use ultra-dense materials to contain him in a cell. Wolverine's healing factor adapts quickly, giving him a quick 2-step from exposure to resistance, to immunity. The best tactic to exploit is to make him think he'll have to decide between sacrificing himself or someone he cares about to the system of justice. His personal moral code and paternal instincts towards the younger members such as Jubilee will compel him to sacrifice himself, a Vibranium prison will be the best way to keep him contained once contained. Thor's powers do not come from his hammer, only his worthiness to wield it. Put him into situations where his worth will falter, and in time his ability to lift Mjolnir will fail. This however requires bringing him to old vices and addictions. If he proved unworthy to wield Mjolnir, then that is ONE weapon he no longer has access to. Stormbringer however has no such limitations, and will enhance his powers. Use the extra-dimensional prison General Zod was kept in to toss his weapons into an endless void! Most effective method is to get Thor to enter it as well so as to keep him contained! Captain America, Avoid hand-to-hand combat! If it is Batman taking to the contingencies, then Steve Rogers has the stamina to outlast Bruce Wayne in a brawl. Captain America's reflexes and experience in war makes him an unrivaled for to contend with. Leading him to suspect a fake is slandering his name with criminal deeds will lead him to try and clear his name. In which case, standard containment for a super-strong person is possible. Ideally, use a Vibranium prison cell. Ironman's gear is tailored to be immune to EMP. If you're facing him in one of his earlier suits, then freezing temperatures like the upper atmosphere of Earth will be your best bet. In the case of newer armors, keep the battle in places with which combat with his repulser weapons will cause collateral damage that can potentially result in innocent casualties. Despite how cowardly this tactic is, it will work, especially if you have someone he cares about deeply and personally as a hostage. Also, you could financially break him by levying lawsuits over safety violations and copyright or patent infringements could also work. Keep him busy with legal work. The Thing AKA Ben Grimm, the best way to contain him is a 1-1 encounter, but you use his blind fiancee as a hostage. Her inability to see makes her incredibly vulnerable, and Ben will do anything to protect her. Capturing her and his aunt Petunia and then giving him a harsh decision of him staying in containment, or they take the fall for his actions and listing crimes he nay or may not have committed as a result of collateral damage will put the big man in a psychological place to accept containment. He's deep down a good person, and if he's being put in a compromising position, this can make it possible to contain him by turning his own morals and connections against him. That's about all I got...
It wasn’t electric, it’s called an obedience disk and it pumps a paralysing toxin within the victims body, you’ll notice Thor’s body go all pale and sickly with his veins going black in the film.
The contingency plan for Iron Man is cool. But let's not forget Tony Stark isn't a dummy. He has plans in place to protect his suits and Jarvis. Also Falcon is one of the smartest minds in the Marvel UUniverse last I checked..
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God some of you are annoying. The point isnt that Batman just has an answer to everything. These obviously wouldn't all work. These are hypothesis. They possibly could work based on research. But since Batman (in this hypothetical Amalgram universe) doesnt really interact with anyone outside of the JL and the Bat family, this could very well be his attempt at Tower or Babel on the Avengers. Some of yall are just annoying and cant take it for what it is. An assumed Batman plan for the Animated avengers. Not he comics or movies.
There have been too many times when all of the super hero groups/factions who have been turned on each other and/or their allies makes Batman having all these contingency plans absolutely necessary (as he also has them against his own Bat Family)... having learned the hard way.
a little too reliant on emp and sound waves i think. there are more creative and nefarious ways of taking down the techy characters, but I will give credit to when you suggest he goes for personal weaknesses like attacking wakanda or going after a loved one. I think Bruce would more likely pull a zemo and have the avengers turn on each other.
i think these videos are interesting but i have a couple of things i don’t like 1. a lot of the solutions are “tailored obstructors” or EMPs and I think that’s kind of lazy if it was that easy you wouldn’t even need to make plans. 2. a lot are also take advantage of a personality trait but if the avengers turned evil why would you have a plan that relies on them having the same values when their values have clearly changed if they’re evil how
Iron Fist - "Exploit his dependency on chai" Bro's so addicted to chai that he literally cannot fight once you get rid of his favorite drink lol (I know it's supposed to be "chi" but I just found it funny to think of it literally)
In the MCU Bruce shot himself and then hulk spit out the bullet. Also he transfroms into the hulk when he is angry or when adrenaline hits him wich can be done very fast. Best way to deal with Hulk is to calm him.instead of attacking Banner.
Throw deadpool into the sun or a black hole, it will kill him faster then his healing factor can compensate for and it will destroy his body so totally he cant survive
Sounds like the only way to take out hulk is to stop banner before he transforms or get hulk to turn back. That sounds about right. Any direct attack only makes hulk madder which makes him stronger. Plus he heals. Falcon method was making hulk laugh. Never made much sense that just turns him back. Falcon theory was the happier hulk gets the weaker he gets.
Batman's being smart is his best power.... and he doesn't even have super powers..he is just the top athletic human there is .....but no matter how strong he is as a human..... he can't match Superman , Hulk and other's strength....
If Tower of Babel and or Doom happened in this combined Universe, not only would Batman have been expelled from The League (Hopefully a Temporary occurance) But The Avengers and maybe S.H.I.E.L.D. would have put him in The Raft.
several of these won't work hulk is hulk on a good day you survive thor is just a no ms marvel is a harder fight than he thinks he also overlooks that many of these things have been tried and failed also as with many of his plans he forgets that they are experienced trained fighters who have been battle tested lastly wanda and susan storm are best left alone
Yea he has no concept of what these characters can really do because like you said a lot of them already went through said plans or contingencies and for the most powerful like Thor, Hulk, Sue, Wanda and Quicksilver etc it simple won't work on except at best hold or stall them for a while
Against a single target the HB suit is a beast. But when you have to fight characters like hulk, Thor, and vision all at once it's it gets really dangerous seeing as it can't run forever of Bruce's life-force.
Hb suit is just another example of crap writing and plot armor writers love milking and favoriting batman like a first born child while in reality he would get obliterated
People assume hellbat is an end all be all. Sure he's powerful for a time, but he couldn’t take Thor AND Hulk at the same time. His life force would be drained. Before we get tk the rest of the power houses. And all Wanda has to do is will it to not exist and it doesn't so.
That's because Hawkeye is predictable. I don't need an elaborate plan for someone whose skills are limited to archery, no matter how precise. If I ever had to face him, I'd adapt on the fly. It's not about underestimating him-it's about knowing where the real threats lie. When you're dealing with gods, monsters, and geniuses, a man with a bow and arrow just isn't a priority.
Hi gravity? There isnt gravity even in the DBZ world strong enough to be generated to keep that thing down. Well other then the hulk and someone with purity like captain america. With hawkeye? Break his arm thatll do it. Invisible woman is the toughest one, you have to get her before she knows an attack is coming. Gas doesnt stop her barriers at all. Shes likely the most broken character of all. Reading on her was pretty interesting. And did batnan just say Chi? Like the tea? 😂
