I remember watching this scene as a kid, seeing the leper-faced stilt-walkers and zombie motorcyclists and fire everywhere and the Batmobile slaughtering every creepo in sight, and I thought, "There has never been, nor will there ever be, any scene in any movie this awesome!"
Rewatching this clip, those guys are out there setting innocent people on fire...that's f***ing horrific and Batman is justified in killing them on the spot. But yeah, he did kill them.
Batman blew up a building full of Joker minions, shot Joker minions from Batwing and bashed a guy's head into a bell before plummeting him to his death and nobody bats an eye. Batman sets someone on fire, everyone loses their minds.
Have you ever noticed that one button on Batmobile has many functions? It fires that flame burst, extends those swords or whatever, makes Batmobile slimmer etc.
Batman never had 'the rule' in the old and original comics. He killed then, and he kills in Tim Burtons films. I'm not sure when the 'no killing' idea came up. Btw, his killcount in The Dark Knight is 2. And he kills Talia Al Ghul + one of her henchmen in Rises.
Bernieo153 I think the only reason why people would rather Batman not kill is because it gives more depth and challenges to his character. I like his "rule" better too to tell you the truth.
+Bernieo153 Its was started in the Batman cartoons in the 90s where they kept saying he didn't kill people. I know they said it in the comics before that but its so inconsistent that people didn't care or notice. When the cartoon from 90s became so popular so did the whole batman doesn't kill thing stuck.
The guy on fire was freakin hilarious! He was dressed like the devil, too, lol! Battery operated toy cars had that turning around gimmick about the time this movie came out....obviously that's what inspired this. Best scene in the whole movie!
Commisioner Gordon: "Thanks for helping out, Batman. Uh, I know things happen during self-defense or when people are in deadly danger . . . but uh . . . somebody told me you lit a clown on fire with a jet engine strapped to the back of your car?" Batman: " . . . umm . . . I forgot to check my rearview mirror . . . " [Batman rushes down darkened subway entrance.]
So it is established that Batman Does kill in the Burton movies, but he only does so in the rare occasion that he has too. You'l notice at 1:01 that batman actually trys to Avoid killing whenever possible, otherwise he would've just Run those two goons over.
He just explodes in fire that guy dresses as a devil. Nice work, Batman. I also remember that scene when he put the bomb in the clown's belt and the guy suddenly explodes. But that's okay, those movies at least are still fun.
People always talk about how Batman kills the fire breather and the giant but what about the two clowns he ejects specifically into the burning building?
"But Bruce... You killed the man..." "Nah, that's alright. He's going to definitely survive with 3rd degree burns all over his body. That's only 99% of destroyed tissue."
The Joker is totally insane, Ra's is not."I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you" is like "If you can destroy my city, so you can save yourself, you don't need me to save you".
@veganisextremelygood now the henchmen learned a valuable lesson about playing fire, since its snowy in gotham city he already take out the fire around his body lol
Only in retrospect do i finally see what Captain Logan (of Superhero Rewind) said about Gordon and the Cops in the Burton/Schmacher films, they are really incomptotant. No disrespect ot Pat Hingle here, but i can't picture Gordon as a overweight guy, but i always pictured him as well Gary Oldman Gordon since 2005.
Did you notice that button which controls tail flame activates also those pipes on side and splits batmobile on half later in the movie? Talking about multi-functional button. :)
The guy got Burnt, not Killed. If you didn't see, he was still running around very lively. In pain, yes, but not dead. He probably got some burns, but yet again he didn't DIE. Do you also think that the people die when batman Punches them? Batman Did kill the strong man with the bomb though, in self defence. With every other criminal he beats them up, but since this guy is Very Strong, he cant just Beat the guy up like everybody else.
If the only thing that comes to mind when watching Burtons Films is "I don't like them because batman "kills", then I'm sorry but you've missed the sheer brilliance of the other 99.9% of the movie
Just wanna point out if the actor survived actually being set on fire for the length of time we see the character on fire and the actor wasn't even injured, why do we assume the character died?
He only killed in his First Year, when the character was not fully evolved and established. After that, he never killed anybody, so him doing so in the Burton Movies was just wrong.
