I dont think that logic is fair... The Justice buster is only and specifically to neutralize the League... Where the Hellbat suit is more or less made for every godly battle
One of the many comments that think his logic is flawed (late reply rip). The hellbat suit is very strong but it drains his life force so he can only use it for maybe 60 min at a time. As they said in the comics it is meant for any extinction level event for Bruce wayne to survive and save more people. The Justice Buster is weaker I have to admit that but in terms of usage it is better than the hellbat suit because it has seemingly unlimited use and is still very powerful against other foes. In the end of the day it’s your choice but you have to ask yourself one question: is more power better than a bit less power but you don’t die after an hour? Personally I think his logic is quite correct
@@hobojobo6331 here's the thing his logic is Justice buster took down Justice league , the hell at suit didn't defeat Darkside the Justice league took a COMBINED effort to get rid of Darkside but that's wrong because they were ment specifically to the members on the Justice and not to mention the fact that Superman even getting hit with minnred sun Crystal's took down the suit and he had to use kryptonite gum + they were weakened . So let's apply some logic here if the Justice buster didn't get rid of a weaken Superman and Darkside took down superman woot of times with ease some times others not so much the hell at woul be much more powerful I do see what you mean by the metabolism part and whie that would be a problem it's not in the flash TV (IK comic logic and tv show logic don't go together but just here me out) his metabolism gets eaten quickly so his scientist friends develop a fix were they just give it to him it refuels he's metabolism if they could do it batman could too with a bit of prep
Red sun energy, courtesy of Ray Palmer. They're delivering a high frequency pulse that's disabling your powers, you're not gonna be flying around for quite a while.
I disagree that the justice buster is stronger, the hellbat suit is way more powerful than the justice buster. The justice buster is made with specific counters, and the joker toxin weakens the justice league too. While the hellbat does none of that it lets him trade blows with darkseid which took the entire league to force back
brownwingedangel Agreed. Now of course that was the younger league from the New 52 as they just formed meaning they have almost no teamwork and they’re individually not that powerful, and this Post Flashpoint Darkseid is weakened, but the fact that the suit has that raw power in the first place and that it was built WITH the league members and not FOR them makes it far more powerful.
RCBM Mines ummmmmm it’s the same darkside the new gods aren’t affected by reboots especially when as of rebirth the new 52 is the same universe with the timeline messed with a bit
The Hell-Bat actually made another appearance other than the instance you mentioned. Lois Lane wore it to help Superman and Superboy battle the Eradicator in the first or second arc in Superman Rebirth :)
.....How the hell did she get her Hands on the most awsome looking Bat Suit that was ever made? I dont think Batman would give it to anyone not even one of the Robins.
Since the video has been made, the final batsuit was made by the World Forger as an offensive measure against the Justice League. In Justice League #24, Batman essentially turned his back on the league by The World Forger's machinations about wanting to save the multiverse. Although in actuality, Batman seeks to stop the World Forger by allowing Superman to be sent to a dark part of space where there is no light, therefore weakening Superman for some reason. Who then struggles to find a sun which eventually he does because Clark knows that Batman let him be sent there for a reason. He eventually flew past from sun to sun, building up an excessive amount of energy of which he eventually returns to Batman and pummels the World Forger like crazy alongside Bruce. The Batman obtains the Final Batsuit and uses against the Justice League and essentially cleans house, it's essentially a souped up version of the Justice Buster suit. It practically does what the Justice Buster suit does as well as containing the Son Box which is made from Element X or Tenth Metal.It's absolutely insane and makes quick work of the Justice League with ease.
0:18 So this happens in 2020 where some new heroes break the rules and become a bit ruthless causing superhero war that destroys a lot of stuff and kills a lot of people. (Conclusion) June NO!
Your logic at the end is a bit flawed. The justice buster is specifically designed to take down the justice league. Each attack is catered to a specific justice league member. Whereas the hellbat suit is designed for all combat, against any foe.
Then again tho while its aimed around a certain member of the league this would also be effective against many different foes such as speedsters, atlantiants and kyritonians (sorry for spelling) so while may not be as versitile as the hellbat suit it could be used to fight not just the members of the league. ^_^
@@charleyjones5992 That's how I think of it. If the suit has the capabilities to take out everyone in the JL then it can probably be used in the same way against nearly anyone.
The Justice Buster was built to only fight the Justice League. If it faught any other super powered person who wasn't similar to the Justice League members, it'll have a hard time.
Wait, so if the Hellbat Suit is partially powered by Bruce's Metabolism, would that mean that he could just eat a shit ton of food (not enough to become obese, but enough to feel extremely full) and be totally fine (as long as he doesn't overdo it of course)?
I think the hellbat suit is the strongest. The justice buster suit was designed to counter a few very specific powers while the hellbat suit makes batman strong enough to fight at the same power level as the people the justice buster counters. The justice buster may be better at taking on the justice league, but it is much worse in most other situations, not to mention how clunky it is and how much collateral damage it causes.
First, really liked the video and second, if anyone needs a more obvious weakness it's Wonder Woman. She is arguably damn near invincible as far as the Justice League goes because her weakness isn't so obvious as Superman or Batman. Like if she goes rogue its up to Superman to beat her.
Martian Manhunter. Superman. Those are the only two people on the Justice League that can reliably take down Diana. Maybe Flash if he's sufficiently motivated. Wonder Woman is terrifying.
Batman Beyond 2.0 is really similar to the Berserker armor from the anime/manga Berserk. Both visually in a sleek, black design, and have narrow, red, aggressive lines for the eye slits. They’re even similar in functionality. The Berserk armor also makes the wearer immune to pain, and “holds their body together” so they can keep fighting regardless of the injury. It also impairs the judgement of the wearer, making them prone to extreme violence.
I love your videos dude. I’m just curious, do you ever do Marvel topics these days? Why not do a video explaining how Doctor Octopus swapped minds with Spider-Man?
The most terrifying thing is that the Justice buster had no way of actually taking down Wonder Woman. She's more lethal than Superman because she has no direct weakness, so Batman had to hallucinate her in order to avoid fighting her because if he didn't he'd have nothing to stop her from ripping the suit to pieces.
I think the Hell bat suit is the best but I think it was not on num 1 because of it taking away Bats protein. I think that the hell bat is better because not even Superman can defeat Darkside even if he has let all his power out but that is just me
I thought I should state this I know that the Justice buster defeated the whole justice league but that is because it was built to do so. So it had all their weaknesses how ever the HellBatsuit was just made to fight Gods. Also Darkside can pack more of a punch then a building.
While i love the description and logic behind each suit I have a problem with your A>B>C description fornthe Justoce Buster suit. To explain I'll ise Star Wars as an example because I am more knowledgeable in it. But this example id such. Quigon gin was beat by Darth Maul, Obiwan killed maul, but was beaten in turn by Count Dooku, Dooku lost to Anakin. Now here is where the explanation gets good. By this logic you would assume that Anakin dhould be able to kill Obiwan, but when the duel on Mustafar occurs Anakin looses. Its not just a suit or special powers that make up the total outcome in battle. More tha. 50% of a fight is circumstantial. So to say the Justice Buster could defeat Darkseid just because this suit beat the Justice League. It wasnt designed to go through Apokalypse while the Hellsuit was.
Damn Jurgens’ Batman Beyond actually looks great. I honestly still prefer the Earth 12 comics, this does seem really interesting with its ties to main continuity.
1:17 I wonder why Bruce was so stubborn about retirement from Batman. It would have made sense if in every version, he’d find a replacement like Terry in Batman Beyond.
I think the Hellbat armor is the strongest, it allows him to fight Darkseid and Darkseid alone can fight the entire Justice League. Superman is the only one who may beat that suit but all Batman needs to do is bring some Kriptonite.
Needlemouse you forgot about the exoskeleton batsuits batman used to defeat predator on more than 2 occasions back in the 1990s and 2007 the last batman superman crossover with the alien and predator
The Hell-Bat should be number one here. The Justice Buster is strong but its only so successful because its got special counters for the JL. Should the Hell-Bat fight the Justice Buster the suit that lets you trade blows with Darksied would win.
I think the Insider suit is better then the hellbat suit over all its energy problem is not going to kill him. You also forgot the new 52 first batman beyond suit that's more like an ironman suit where as the other batman beyond suits are made of a cloth like material.
The justice buster was specifically made to counter and defeat the justice league, while the hellbat suit is an all around powerful suit. That is like saying batman is(physically) stronger than superman because he can shatter kryptonite(either by throwing it against something or maybe just punching it) however superman cant even destroy it even though its just a rock.(superman probably can destroy kryptonite I am just saying that if he exposed himself heavily to kryptonite and then tried to destroy it, it wouldnt work out well due to him being weaker than a human at that point). My point is that just because the justice buster can hit the achilles’ heel of the justice league, doesnt mean that it could square off against beings like darkseid.
16:35 Terrible ABC and contradictory logic. The suit uses specific countermeasures that work best when they’re not at full strength. They didn’t even gang up on Bruce all at once.
Tbh Kryptonite gum is a pretty stupid way to take Superman down, I would've gone with a kryptonite gun and I would've shot him, not to kill him or cripple him, but just to stop him from attacking, at most to knock him down and fix him
