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Battle in the South China Sea - US Navy vs China's Navy (Minute by Minute) 

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@markcook927
@markcook927 3 месяца назад
USA will not take kindly to losing a boat . You strongly under estimate USA response.
@mac2626
@mac2626 2 месяца назад
Biden wouldn’t do shit, and the whole world knows it.
@CaseyRoman1
@CaseyRoman1 3 месяца назад
Naval Generals?🤣 That right there shows how much 'research' was actually done for this.
@User-1983-bi8bw
@User-1983-bi8bw 3 месяца назад
The U.S. military said U.S. bombers or carrier strike groups sailing in the South China Sea could face a salvo of dozens, if not hundreds, of ballistic missiles designed to overwhelm its defenses, destroy critical capabilities, and sink U.S. warships into the deep sea. A senior US military official said that if China and the United States go to war, after the first hour, there will be little left of the US military's bases in the Indo-Pacific circle. A senior defense official said it is changing the U.S. appetite for war in the region, "creating a conventional deterrent capability that threatens our posture, our presence and our activities, which could lead policymakers in Washington to perceive the stakes as too high."
@kylehomenik8775
@kylehomenik8775 3 месяца назад
yeah this was shit, no knowledge of geopolitics and warfare
@rcgunner7086
@rcgunner7086 3 месяца назад
You'd think that's what the People's Liberation Army Navy has in charge. Go figure.
@johnw9190
@johnw9190 Месяц назад
@@User-1983-bi8bw I assume this was a comment and not a reply.
@mlblja
@mlblja Месяц назад
Yeah, that would be Admirals and Captains.
@forMacguyver
@forMacguyver 3 месяца назад
Information in this video is way out of date and overly optimistic about China's naval/military prowess. Sorry guys you missed the mark on this one.
@MA_KA_PA_TIE
@MA_KA_PA_TIE 3 месяца назад
Better to prepare to fight a titan and be pleasantly surprised it's a kitten than vice versa.
@davidburke8682
@davidburke8682 3 месяца назад
I agree they are comparing the 2024 chinese navy to the 2010 American navy
@User-1983-bi8bw
@User-1983-bi8bw 3 месяца назад
The U.S. military said U.S. bombers or carrier strike groups sailing in the South China Sea could face a salvo of dozens, if not hundreds, of ballistic missiles designed to overwhelm its defenses, destroy critical capabilities, and sink U.S. warships into the deep sea. A senior US military official said that if China and the United States go to war, after the first hour, there will be little left of the US military's bases in the Indo-Pacific circle. A senior defense official said it is changing the U.S. appetite for war in the region, "creating a conventional deterrent capability that threatens our posture, our presence and our activities, which could lead policymakers in Washington to perceive the stakes as too high."
@shinchan2627
@shinchan2627 3 месяца назад
I know as a American you want to believe America is number 1 and nobody can defeat it... But China can and China will destroy a massive part of the US ships ... wich means the US cant maintain its power projection in the world.
@Stephen-vl2ky
@Stephen-vl2ky 3 месяца назад
Agreed, watching the Fujian's sea trials has been a riot. It's like the Kuznetsov all over again billowing that black smoke into the air with a tug as it's only escort, but 40 years later.
@TeddyR_Official
@TeddyR_Official 3 месяца назад
Is it the 1800’s? This video assumes the US has no Air Force. Lol
@BlueBirdTactical
@BlueBirdTactical 3 месяца назад
Bruh! It’s in the title of the video, “US Navy v China Navy.” Not “US military v China military”
@TeddyR_Official
@TeddyR_Official 3 месяца назад
⁠@@BlueBirdTacticalOK fine. But you know what the those aircraft carriers carry? Right, the Navy’s finest … F/A 18 Super Hornets, F-35C Lightning II, E-2 Hawkeye Airborne Command and Control aircrafts. You can’t literally get close to a carrier strike group. All the CCP PLA can do is to let it’s missiles fly. And the F-35C’s mission is to eliminate those threats first, including radar stations. The US Navy has been doing that strategy in places of conflicts, even before the Gulf wars, it’s no secret.
@thediggy
@thediggy 3 месяца назад
​@bryceboy09 The navy has "Carriers" which have aircraft.
@BlueBirdTactical
@BlueBirdTactical 3 месяца назад
@@thediggy the title of the video is navy v navy. The dudes comment included Air Force branch. The navy does have squadrons in carriers. So it’s strictly navy v navy.
@bryanhoppe1481
@bryanhoppe1481 2 месяца назад
LOL at it taking 2 hours for the POTUS to be informed. The US would have immediately responded with an attack on the Chinese vessels.
@mattstrandquist2148
@mattstrandquist2148 3 месяца назад
@4:00 Nope, It does NOT take TWO HOURS for POTUS to be informed that a US warship has been fired on and sunk. It takes MINUTES.
@mattstrandquist2148
@mattstrandquist2148 3 месяца назад
4:30 Nope. It does NOT take "weeks" to respond: with US assets already in the Philippines, it takes hours AT MOST.
@Grendelsbane
@Grendelsbane 3 месяца назад
USAF just going to sit this out? No use of B2/B21 bombers to take out either ships or missile emplacements? Or no use of the Rapid Dragon system to act as a force multiplier?
@surfdocer103
@surfdocer103 3 месяца назад
IKR
@User-1983-bi8bw
@User-1983-bi8bw 3 месяца назад
The U.S. military said U.S. bombers or carrier strike groups sailing in the South China Sea could face a salvo of dozens, if not hundreds, of ballistic missiles designed to overwhelm its defenses, destroy critical capabilities, and sink U.S. warships into the deep sea. A senior US military official said that if China and the United States go to war, after the first hour, there will be little left of the US military's bases in the Indo-Pacific circle. A senior defense official said it is changing the U.S. appetite for war in the region, "creating a conventional deterrent capability that threatens our posture, our presence and our activities, which could lead policymakers in Washington to perceive the stakes as too high."
@marro1916
@marro1916 3 месяца назад
This channel makes the dumbest claims and war plans. It's like they have someone writing these that has zero idea what the U.S. has in their arsenal.
@SelfProclaimedEmperor
@SelfProclaimedEmperor 3 месяца назад
​​​@@User-1983-bi8bwthe B-2 doesn't need bases in the western Pacific, it can reach Eastern china and any Chinese ship from Hawaii, as long as a refueling tanker launches with it and refuels the B-2 then return base before getting close to china while the B-2 continues. Also US patriot and THAAD systems will destroy most enemy missiles before they get close to bases. Patriot has shot down hypersonic missiles in Ukraine. Furthermore, the US now has hypersonic missiles with very long range.
@User-1983-bi8bw
@User-1983-bi8bw 3 месяца назад
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor PPT shows.
@christopherwestbrook3534
@christopherwestbrook3534 3 месяца назад
This is kinda dated. USAF long strikes are an integral part of South China Sea operations
@marro1916
@marro1916 3 месяца назад
You took that from that one channel that makes those funny ass videos. I 100% agree.
@olderchin1558
@olderchin1558 3 месяца назад
True but not real. The USAF don't have the assets or munitions to do it. It is a future aspiration.
@christopherwestbrook3534
@christopherwestbrook3534 3 месяца назад
@@olderchin1558 Are you SERIOUS - They literally have a GLOBAL STRIKE COMMAND. Holy Jeez Guy...everyone is remarking about it because the video leaves them out completely
@LosLS2
@LosLS2 3 месяца назад
This is all wrong. First of all, we have an Air Force. Second, our subs would just be shooting fish in a barrel. There is no comparison. Those 2 carriers would be on the bottom within the week. only way they take a carrier is with a sucker punch. Meaning they got to do it first. Before the littoral and the Philippine base. Once they attack, that carrier would become very hard to find, as all their satellites would go down and the US and Japan would have immediate air dominance over Japan and all the Islands.
@User-1983-bi8bw
@User-1983-bi8bw 3 месяца назад
The U.S. military said U.S. bombers or carrier strike groups sailing in the South China Sea could face a salvo of dozens, if not hundreds, of ballistic missiles designed to overwhelm its defenses, destroy critical capabilities, and sink U.S. warships into the deep sea. A senior US military official said that if China and the United States go to war, after the first hour, there will be little left of the US military's bases in the Indo-Pacific circle. A senior defense official said it is changing the U.S. appetite for war in the region, "creating a conventional deterrent capability that threatens our posture, our presence and our activities, which could lead policymakers in Washington to perceive the stakes as too high." I guess they know better than you do.
@algenis880
@algenis880 3 месяца назад
All wrong is correct because China has a paper dragon fleet. They're unable to be in deep water. Their missile defense is non-existent, whereas sm3s can take out DF their hypersonic missiles. No challenge at all to the US
@Flightman453
@Flightman453 3 месяца назад
This just sounds like you watch too many movies because what in the fuck are you even talking about lmao.
@User-1983-bi8bw
@User-1983-bi8bw 3 месяца назад
@Ariel-om5fh Too much dream! Get the facts straight! Pentagon war games have been predicting US defeat in Taiwan for years at this point. In 2018, the Pentagon ran 18 war games of a war over Taiwan with the most realistic conditions and lost all 18 of them to China. Assumes full Japanese support. Without this assumption, the authors admit result will be a decisive US defeat. Overestimated US subsonic missile capabilities Not including hypersonic in the game as they would be in limited numbers. For the US sure. For China, they are building them quite heavily. So many guys pretended they knew more than those military ranks.
@Flightman453
@Flightman453 3 месяца назад
@Ariel-om5fhChinese missiles can reach as far as Guam. How far out exactly do you think they'll be able to be and operate and be effective? You seem to forget American planes don't have the range like Chinese planes do. The US is simply at a disadvantage in such a theater. And what "informal regional coalition"? You seem to overestimate every SEA simply coming to US/Taiwan's aid without question. Nothing is officially, formally declared.
@phillipfreely2226
@phillipfreely2226 3 месяца назад
I don’t see the USA being dumb enough to lose that many ships
@larryclark5355
@larryclark5355 3 месяца назад
I think you're one minded. The lattorial ships are targets only. After the sinking the USAF would start using stand-off weapons against China. The amount of weapons that could be used would probably tax their air defense forces . This would go on day and night giving them no break. At night B1s,F22s,and F35s would drop precision weapons disrupting command and control,storage and port facilities. These losses would make them pull their forces back. At the same time US subs would teach them to fear the water and remaining naval force would contribute cruise missles to the crowded skies attacking shipping and port facilities.
@LunaLapin-ho5tk
@LunaLapin-ho5tk 3 месяца назад
Why wouldn't China have sunk the US vessels the moment they entered Chinese waters? China has their own GPS system now and the US cannot hide navel assets any longer. Chinese GPS and Chinese hypersonic missiles have made navies obsolete.
@petersinclair3997
@petersinclair3997 2 месяца назад
Agree. Many presentations on the Taiwan issue don’t address taking out ports. Japan did it at Pearl Harbor. England sunk a French fleet, so Germany couldn’t used the ships WW2. Before the Spanish Armada, England made a surprise attack on a Spanish port.
@LunaLapin-ho5tk
@LunaLapin-ho5tk 2 месяца назад
You seem to forget that China is 10 years ahead of the US in hypersonic missiles and has their own GPS system and radar system. The US cannot hide their assets any longer. You fantasize about countries warring with the US as if they have no military. The US Navy is obsolete now that they are giant sitting ducks because GPS can now "see" them. The US cannot hide them any longer. China and Russia both have nuclear submarines that are as advanced if not more advanced than the US. The US pretty much sat on it's laurels since the fall of the USSR and now is paying the price.
@longhorn13jdl
@longhorn13jdl 3 месяца назад
No one has mentioned China's soldiers' war experience . This would be their first war in a very long time.
@User-1983-bi8bw
@User-1983-bi8bw 3 месяца назад
The U.S. military said U.S. bombers or carrier strike groups sailing in the South China Sea could face a salvo of dozens, if not hundreds, of ballistic missiles designed to overwhelm its defenses, destroy critical capabilities, and sink U.S. warships into the deep sea. A senior US military official said that if China and the United States go to war, after the first hour, there will be little left of the US military's bases in the Indo-Pacific circle. A senior defense official said it is changing the U.S. appetite for war in the region, "creating a conventional deterrent capability that threatens our posture, our presence and our activities, which could lead policymakers in Washington to perceive the stakes as too high." I guess they know better.
@m3c4nyku43
@m3c4nyku43 3 месяца назад
Ah yes, because USA has a lot of experience in Afghanistan...
@m3c4nyku43
@m3c4nyku43 3 месяца назад
And wait a second. China is bad because they're supposedly aggressive but they don't have battle experience, meanwhile USA who isn't aggressive has military experience? Hmm. Something doesn't add up.
@LunaLapin-ho5tk
@LunaLapin-ho5tk 3 месяца назад
Well, couple that with the US's lack of being able to win a war and what do you get?
@xiangzihua
@xiangzihua 3 месяца назад
​@@m3c4nyku43 USA has experience fighting farmers and shepherds 😂
@MannsWoodlandPerspective
@MannsWoodlandPerspective 3 месяца назад
According to this, not a single F35 C exists.
@matta5498
@matta5498 3 месяца назад
(From the movie 300, Daxos being China and Leonidas being the US) Daxos: I see I was wrong to expect Sparta's commitment to at least match our own. King Leonidas: Doesn't it? [points to Arcadian soldier behind Daxos] King Leonidas: You there, what is your profession? Free Greek-Potter: I am a potter... sir. King Leonidas: [points to another soldier] And you, Arcadian, what is your profession? Free Greek-Sculptor: Sculptor, sir. King Leonidas: Sculptor. [turns to a third soldier] King Leonidas: You? Free Greek-Blacksmith: Blacksmith. King Leonidas: [turns back shouting] SPARTANS! What is YOUR profession? Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH! King Leonidas: [turning to Daxos] You see, old friend? I brought more soldiers than you did!
@user-de2yc1xz6d
@user-de2yc1xz6d 3 месяца назад
For d US to take 5 days prior to launching a counterattack is simply unrealistic.
@davidburke8682
@davidburke8682 3 месяца назад
Who ever made this doesn’t understand how hard it is to hit a air craft carrier with a sub or anti ship missile they are insanely layered in their air and sub defense
@CruWiT
@CruWiT 3 месяца назад
No matter how advanced it is, no air defense system is impenetrable, and when you bombard a huge object in the middle of the ocean with hypersonic missiles with speeds of Mach 6 and above, I don't think any air defense system can prevent this take will be saturated.
@MochaBatik
@MochaBatik 3 месяца назад
This is even considering the Chinese knows what they're doing, meanwhile the US already had shit-ton of simulations where the odds are stacked against them and they're still capable of achieving a stalemate despite these odds
@Myungbean
@Myungbean 3 месяца назад
​@CruWiT China has not demonstrated the ability to hit moving targets with their hypersonic. Fast as they are, they still take a while to reach their targets and carriers are not going to just be sitting still. The carrier is guaranteed to be miles away from where the missile was originally targeted at.
@davidburke8682
@davidburke8682 3 месяца назад
@@CruWiT every missile is hypersonic china has zero true hypersonic missiles that can change direction while maintaining a hypersonic speed and the us has already proven its possible to shoot those down and some believe we have the capability already either way u gotta be pretty new at this subject to think anyone is fielding a real hypersonic missile only America has successfully tested one
@CruWiT
@CruWiT 3 месяца назад
@@davidburke8682 There are systems that can hit hypersonic missiles, but they aren't 100% guaranteed. If air defense reaches heavy oversaturation it will definitely give a deficit. Israel's iron dome was described as impenetrable, but a few hundred primitive Iranian missiles, which were moving slowly and coming from a known source and were announced before launch, were able to overcome Israel's air defense umbrella, 98% of them were destroyed, but 2% passed the air defense network and hit the targets. If even such primitive weapons can overcome such an advanced air defense system, it isn't possible for a huge pile of steel standing in the middle of the ocean to prevent all kinds of attacks from the air.
@ericb.4358
@ericb.4358 3 месяца назад
The US Navy has had a LOT of practice running tactics against the Russian navy, both on the surface and below. What in hell makes China think they have the institutional knowledge to go up against the US Navy?? This is not just tactical knowledge but down to the granular level of sonar men, radar men, etc. who have knowledge in the form of training passed on generation after generation. OK, so the Chinese PLA Navy has more ships. BUT do they have better missiles, better networking and better trained crews with that institutional knowledge I mentioned above? Doubtful but never underestimate your enemy. Japan will never stand for China to take Taiwan (and likely the small Riukyu Islands near Taiwan) Japan is RAPIDLY expanding its navy and air force to counter China. Japan too is a large industrial power with advanced technology. It knows modern arms.
@iitianadi
@iitianadi 3 месяца назад
Yeah not battle ready commandos noo war experience
@stevenmccary4058
@stevenmccary4058 3 месяца назад
China has more boats yes, but they also name every canoe in their waters as a naval vessel. Going by tonnage, they have 824,000 tons of boats. The US has 3.8 Million tons.
@Flightman453
@Flightman453 3 месяца назад
Where are you getting your numbers? China's total naval tonnage, is just shy under 3 million. The US is at about 7.4 million. And no, they aren't naming "every canoe" a naval vessel.
@thomasD215
@thomasD215 3 месяца назад
​​@@Flightman453no not every canoe, but they do count every boat in there coast gaurd, as well as many militia fishing boats as part of there naval numbers. The US does not count its coast gaurd ships towards its naval tonnage or number of ships.
@Flightman453
@Flightman453 3 месяца назад
@@thomasD215 That’s not true at all in the slightest. The Chinese Coast Guard and their Maritime Militia fleet are both their separate entities. If the PLAN counted both Coast Guard ships and maritime militia ships their navy ship count would probably be 200+ ships higher lmao. It’s because they have a lot of auxiliary ships and missile boats/corvettes that add to that number because they produced a lot of those smaller boats at the time but their doctrine has changed. That’s why they’ve been slowly retiring those smaller missiles boats/corvettes or giving them to the coast guard as they’re rapidly building larger and more lethal surface combatants.
@snoopysnoops007
@snoopysnoops007 3 месяца назад
@@thomasD215 Ummmm this is more about production rates surely as many ships will be destroyed on both sides. One chinese shipyard manufactures more ships than all of America's shipyards combined. This will be like Ukraine where the Ukranians cannot keep pace with Russia's military industrial complex production rates
@live2av8
@live2av8 3 месяца назад
@@snoopysnoops007 lol
@sethstriker
@sethstriker 3 месяца назад
You civilians ALWAYS assume that the CCP is competent in war, all the while ignoring what history has to show us about what's actually happens when the CCP tries its hand at combat. While it is never wise to underestimate your opponent, I think that if the CCP ever gets froggy, that the world would eat well on frog legs.
@theKnightsofGod
@theKnightsofGod 3 месяца назад
The Korean war?
@TheBoaty813
@TheBoaty813 3 месяца назад
A civilian here. But I worked on our mighty warships for 20 years. People really underestimate our power.
@theKnightsofGod
@theKnightsofGod 3 месяца назад
@TheBoaty813 in a war, an enemy should never be underestimated. We, Americans, should know that from the various wars we fought. Overconfidence costed us many in the past
@mtmadigan82
@mtmadigan82 3 месяца назад
​@@theKnightsofGod75 years ago, great example.
@mtmadigan82
@mtmadigan82 3 месяца назад
​@@TheBoaty813to be fair if you've never seen it first hand and don't have any connections or interest in the military, it's understandable. But once you see first hand any of our branches combat capacity in person, video or written description do it no justice. Thanks for your work by the way, anytime the navy gave us a ride I've always been amazed by their ships and subs. Its so overwhelming in size and complexity, just looking around my brain locks up just trying to figure where do you even start planning and building something like that.
@isaacteo4063
@isaacteo4063 3 месяца назад
The new Fujian class carrier is meant to used as a barbarcue instead of an attack platform.
@CH3353N1NJ45
@CH3353N1NJ45 3 месяца назад
Chinese Barbecue, drools
@Orcalein7367
@Orcalein7367 2 месяца назад
@@CH3353N1NJ45 I'd rather have Korean BBQ ... with the side dishes ! Lol
@idiocracyorthedevil
@idiocracyorthedevil 3 месяца назад
Nice graphics but a weak analysis. US subs would be first on the scene.
@MA_KA_PA_TIE
@MA_KA_PA_TIE 3 месяца назад
Uh oh, they touched the boats. Big mistake.
@jskillet8912
@jskillet8912 3 месяца назад
Quack bang out!
@jpd4627
@jpd4627 3 месяца назад
DON'T TOUCH THE BOATS!!
@shawnhoebeck7784
@shawnhoebeck7784 3 месяца назад
A reference to"FIndIng 23:22 emo
@feigned53
@feigned53 3 месяца назад
@mandatoryfunday
@CountryLifestyle2023
@CountryLifestyle2023 3 месяца назад
I see someone follows Habitaul Linecroser
@Bfizzle62
@Bfizzle62 3 месяца назад
The USAF, Japan, and Australia are just sitting this one out I guess
@greenktoo
@greenktoo 2 месяца назад
Australia would be the first to help us.
@TheBestDog
@TheBestDog 3 месяца назад
What’s the name of the narrator? He has almost as many channels as Simon.
@thinkitaintillegalyet
@thinkitaintillegalyet 3 месяца назад
The C.I.A. they put out way too much content to not be an organization
@cptmike05
@cptmike05 3 месяца назад
I think it’s an ai voice
@mikebar42
@mikebar42 3 месяца назад
Read above... 😅
@americanadreaming
@americanadreaming 3 месяца назад
​@@thinkitaintillegalyet Lol, bud, that's standard AI that any Joe 6-pack can use.
@thinkitaintillegalyet
@thinkitaintillegalyet 3 месяца назад
@americanadreaming that's used for almost all of the big American RU-vid channels that just so happen to be watched by a large audience of Americans
@user-vh5di2gl9b
@user-vh5di2gl9b 3 месяца назад
Yeah, sometime before the 12 hr point big black planes are going to be taking off from a little base in Missouri. Remember Dolittle’s raid? This will be bigger.
@macmcgee5116
@macmcgee5116 3 месяца назад
No mention of stealth fighters/bombers or the US "Rapid Dragon" anti ship missile barrage?
@Myungbean
@Myungbean 3 месяца назад
Yeah, wildly unrealistic response. I think the idea was to restrict the response purely to the Navy, even then, no SSGN strikes or various targets etc. I dunno how valid this is.
@macmcgee5116
@macmcgee5116 3 месяца назад
@@Myungbean I also am not sure if rapid dragon is beyond the testing phase. If so... Maybe that is why it was omitted.
@SelfProclaimedEmperor
@SelfProclaimedEmperor 3 месяца назад
Also don't forget the long range hypersonic weapon which is already in service
@paulwilson6614
@paulwilson6614 3 месяца назад
As well as B1Bs from the US main land running either anti ship missiles taking out the Chinese carriers or making runs on the ground base missle sites. As for the Chinese subs, they didn't even mention the US anti sub abilities including helos and the Poseidon. I feel like they missed quite a bit on the research on this one.
@architecturehappy
@architecturehappy 3 месяца назад
@@macmcgee5116the difference between testing and raining hell in realtime could be days if they wanted it to, they are smart and have already proven it works, now they are just stockpiling 😎
@jimjefftube
@jimjefftube 3 месяца назад
Are you aware that the US has an Air Force?
@m3c4nyku43
@m3c4nyku43 3 месяца назад
Where would they fly from?
@ObiWanShinobi917
@ObiWanShinobi917 3 месяца назад
​@@m3c4nyku43B2 and B1 bombers can fly from U.S. mainland easily. If the U.S. has aircraft carriers in the sea, it means they also have F-35s, and F22s + F15s could reach the area easily from nearby airbases with use of refueling tankers.
@captin3149
@captin3149 3 месяца назад
@@m3c4nyku43 The bases from S Korea, Phillipines and Japan maybe?
@m3c4nyku43
@m3c4nyku43 3 месяца назад
@@captin3149 It was all addressed in the video. The ones in Philippines would be destroyed as I remember.
@Flightman453
@Flightman453 3 месяца назад
⁠@@ObiWanShinobi917You’re gonna refuel planes in a heavily contested environment? lmao
@freddiemercury2075
@freddiemercury2075 2 месяца назад
Well... I am no expert in US armed force doctrine but I am sure their navy dont fight alone. The air force and the Marines would join the party too. Plus if china were to start the fight it would make nearly the whole world turn on them.
@valianttmt8044
@valianttmt8044 3 месяца назад
It wouldn’t be an Ohio class BALLISTIC submarine. It would most likely be a Virginia class attack boat. BTW who the hell came up with this scenario?
@thewaywardwind548
@thewaywardwind548 2 месяца назад
Wouldn't be just "a Virginia class attack boat." Would be several. AND since the Ohio subs have sonar and torpedoes -- and are VERY QUIET -- they could be exceptional trump cards to back up the Virginias since their nukes wouldn't be in play.
@valianttmt8044
@valianttmt8044 2 месяца назад
@@thewaywardwind548 can’t argue with that 👍
@WinVisten
@WinVisten Месяц назад
NEVER touch America's boats.
@rayrae1651
@rayrae1651 3 месяца назад
The paper dragon has nothing for the super power. Winnie the Pooh knows this.
@Flightman453
@Flightman453 3 месяца назад
Cope
@thanemlesstrue-arrow5724
@thanemlesstrue-arrow5724 3 месяца назад
I think a few things are different from what would happen in reality. Firstly, the ship to ship naval battle with aircraft carriers wouldn't be as close as portrayed here. US would cream China with better sailors and better equipment. Secondly, once the US committed I think allies like Japan, South Korea, Philippines, and Australia would be all out in their support from the get-go. The allies would much rather fight alongside a strong US Naval Fleet over one that had been depleted due to lack of support. Thirdly, there would be long range attacks on Chinese ports, and the US would make sure to sink the two Chinese carriers to assert dominance over the Pacific. The wild card would be India. We in India tend to be passive in war, so I don't expect any action from us. But we might be opportunistic and pounce if we sense a weakness in China.
@Flightman453
@Flightman453 3 месяца назад
You seem to fantasize and significantly overestimate every single country within the region just simply fighting alongside the US and for Taiwan. Doesn't work that way. Like India? Really? lmao
@rhyanjill
@rhyanjill 3 месяца назад
1. Where the hell are the US air forces and stealth bombers here? 2. The US has access to 9 military bases in the Philippines. Especially in the Cagayan (northern Philippines) and Palawan. China wouldn’t get past Balabac islands without being blockaded by America and the Philippines. 3. Forget the Lombok strait which will be guarded by Australia and Indonesia, China wouldn’t even get past the Balabac strait, which America was given access to by the Philippines, or anything beyond the Sulu sea. American access to Cagayan would also make it even harder for China to do anything in the Pacific. What do you think the first island chain was for in the first place? 4. The Malacca and Sunda straits will NOT be blockaded with the help of the Philippines. That’s India and Australia’s role, or Indonesia if they feel like it. In any case, I doubt Indonesia will allow China to do anything in their waters at all. 5. You failed to mention smaller Pacific island nations that China is trying to bring into its fold. They will play a crucial role whether they side with China or the US. Why? Because of that little thing called GUAM which was never mentioned here.
@Orcalein7367
@Orcalein7367 2 месяца назад
Answer to # 1 : They are "stealth" so you shouldn't be able to see them.
@issacrice4025
@issacrice4025 3 месяца назад
These guys have totally lost it Just throwing out gaslighting crap with wildly inaccurate info Sad😢
@IOSARBX
@IOSARBX 3 месяца назад
GeoPolitico, I really enjoyed watching this, so I hit the like button!
@isaacbrown4506
@isaacbrown4506 3 месяца назад
Doesn't speed not exactly matter on an interception course? I don't think our missiles fly as fast as a ballistic missile outside the atmosphere. Just saying
@robertchall4592
@robertchall4592 3 месяца назад
Most of this is a absurdly incorrect and shows a glaring lack of understanding of military doctrine and combined arms battle!
@stephenbrown937
@stephenbrown937 2 месяца назад
Considering the Phillipenes were once a US territory including the Spratley Islands and the military alliances we maintain with the Phillipenes I think US has every right to be there and know exactly where Phillipenes territory begins and ends as thousands of Americans died for that territory.
@recondax
@recondax 3 месяца назад
I would like to say a couple of things. There are several facts not correct. Taiwan has a new president, the Ronald Reagan would not be the only aircraft carrier in the area, and as someone pointed out, there are several military bases scattered in the Philippines. The very big issue many have pointed out is the USAF not being active. The USAF and other Air Forces in the region would be very active dropping missiles within days, if not hours of the initial attack. Another overlooked item is the US Navy's "ghost" fleet/s. They may not be top of the line but those ships could be slightly modernized and then go to the war zone. On the Chinese side, there are a few issues, that I believe, not gotten right. The Type 001 and 002 aircraft carriers do not have a good air wing units aboard them at this time. If they do get good aircraft units aboard, the design of flight desk seriously hampers the combat load of the aircraft. The ski jump places a limitation on how much fuel and weapons the aircraft can take off with. Lots of fuel to spend time in the air but only have a few rockets. If you go heavy on the ordinance, you will only have only a very limited time in the air. Last item on this comment is the needed support ships for the Type 001 and 002. One of those support ships would be a tug boat to get the carrier back to the port when, not if, the carrier breaks down, another would be a tanker to supply all the different fuels needs, and another would would be the regular supply ship.
@thadbeyer4166
@thadbeyer4166 2 месяца назад
I no expert, but we have F22’s, F35’s, and A-10’s, that can strike off the coast of the Philippines into the south China sea. We don’t have to wait just for navy. I’ve seen them there myself. If you think an A10 is only a tank killer, can you imagine what it would do to the deck of a carrier?
@tommylewis8457
@tommylewis8457 3 месяца назад
This seems to be narrow in scope. Alot of resources the U.S has at its disposal was omitted. This scenario is lacking. If we were attacked the response would be much quicker. Also the numbers of ships China has is immaterial they are all smaller less capable ships. They also have inherent issues with their aircraft carriers. Like fielding less aircraft and over all performance.
@Flightman453
@Flightman453 3 месяца назад
None of Chinese main surface combatants are "small" or "less capable".
@tommylewis8457
@tommylewis8457 3 месяца назад
@@Flightman453 The simple fact that the US fleet is smaller in number but more than double in tonnage is really the only thing needed to prove that Chinas navy is compromised of smaller, less capable ships. Their two existing aircraft carriers that are in service, combined would still only carry as many air craft as a single Nimitz class carrier. They are not nuclear powered so they have less endurance and less range. The Chinese Navy is a paper tiger. They are also less capable because they have less experience and are untested. The only real world conflict they have participated in is harassing fishing vessel and vessels from smaller neighboring countries. They do not have the means to project power. Their ships defense is largely dependent on costal defense and the hopes they can intercept US aircraft with their new stealth wich is also less capable than it's US counter parts. Maybe you can get some one else to buy the hype China is trying to sell but it's not going to be any one who actually keeps up with what's going on.
@PAUL-em4tj
@PAUL-em4tj Месяц назад
Biden still Thought Gabriel Gifford was on a Space ship. 😂
@chrissschwehr5911
@chrissschwehr5911 3 месяца назад
The scenario isn't realistic. Assets from the U.S. Air Force were completely forgotten F-15 assets from Kadena AB in Okinawa and Marine fighters operating close to Taiwan from Japanese bases could be used easily along with strategic bombers flown into Anderson AB, Guam loaded with anti-shipping missiles combined with conventional munitions loaded on our B-2 and B-1 bombers would prove deadly to Chinese ships....they could also remove the threat of the artificial islands the Chinese have built up over the last few years....Add all of those assets and the Chinese wouldn't stand a chance.
@dm9078
@dm9078 3 месяца назад
Did they say Naval Generals?
@WillyWithAwhY
@WillyWithAwhY 3 месяца назад
In China, their navy is a part of their army.
@stephenhaas376
@stephenhaas376 2 месяца назад
China’s first aircraft carrier was a converted Ukrainian Casino ship. The second aircraft carrier with a copy of the first
@THOMPSON8787
@THOMPSON8787 3 месяца назад
Chinese bots in the comments are too obvious 😂😂..at least say something different each time you comment
@Orcalein7367
@Orcalein7367 2 месяца назад
You mean "Flightman453" , right ?!?
@matthewmonzillo3141
@matthewmonzillo3141 2 месяца назад
Couple of a-10 hornets flying over my head right now
@primitivestudio1
@primitivestudio1 2 месяца назад
I disagree with this assessment. Totally disregard’s USA assets. And fact we use long range missiles too. On top that our subs would be early in game
@mikehankins4513
@mikehankins4513 2 месяца назад
Biden would be in his office deciding what sprinkles to get on his ice cream.
@masonnorman1374
@masonnorman1374 3 месяца назад
The response to someone touching our boats is not accurate in that it was even slightly proportional
@architecturehappy
@architecturehappy 3 месяца назад
This is hilariously childish in understanding the U.S. military capabilities and clearly produced by a pro-China sympathizer. I’ll just hit the biggest oversights and not give away the juicy details of the curb stomping the US would bring. 1. War experience 2. Logistics experience 3. Air Force 4. Anti-air, radar and targeting, stealth, stand-off weapons
@jasonariola6363
@jasonariola6363 3 месяца назад
I recant what I said about the congressional woman from Arizona and naming a ship. She is in fact a U.S. Navy person who served honorably.
@markadaza9940
@markadaza9940 3 месяца назад
West Taiwan being West Taiwan again..
@poseidon1641
@poseidon1641 2 месяца назад
stop saying "south-china sea" ... it's Asean Sea!
@blackbelt2000
@blackbelt2000 3 месяца назад
If india (who has border disputes w/chyna) could be convinced to join the fight then chyna would be forced to fight a 2-front war. They would have to choose to allocate resources to the navy to fight in Taiwan waters or ground forces to fight India. I doubt that would happen as both seem to enjoy the status quo of just disputing.
@CruWiT
@CruWiT 3 месяца назад
In this scenario, war doesn't spread to the mainland both side, only in sea and naval bases. If India attacks China's mainland, China's response will be very harly, and it shouldn't be forgotten that India has its own internal problems and problems with almost all of its neighbors.
@blackbelt2000
@blackbelt2000 3 месяца назад
@@CruWiT hmmm....true, true
@MochaBatik
@MochaBatik 3 месяца назад
​@@CruWiTChina has its OWN insurgency problems as well
@CruWiT
@CruWiT 3 месяца назад
@@MochaBatik But China has an autocratic, oppressive one-party rule and has more than 400 million security cameras etc. It is extremely easy to control the population, but India has a multi-party system and political divisions, and there are millions of people living in rural areas who don't even have an ID Card.
@MochaBatik
@MochaBatik 3 месяца назад
But India only has to keep its eye on China and the latter has made enemies with virtually almost every of its neighboring countries.
@Dra741
@Dra741 26 дней назад
That's why subic bay is designed to be evacuated and they're doing island hopping campaign with our aircraft landing at other different positions out of the range of chinese missiles
@sampacheco7757
@sampacheco7757 27 дней назад
The president finds out 2 hours later😂😂😂this video is chinese click bait.....I love it! It's so stupid😂
@user-jr1xg7vu1u
@user-jr1xg7vu1u 2 месяца назад
You don’t understand that arias of South China Sea and Philippine Sea is international route of any shipping vessel. And US. Is an Alliance of Philippine. Tell your friend China to back off.
@jeromeaurelio6692
@jeromeaurelio6692 2 месяца назад
You just forgot that the whole Philippines will be a US base in case of war. Currently there are multiple US-Ph base being build on different islands
@MarkHurlow-cf2ix
@MarkHurlow-cf2ix 2 месяца назад
The US Navy has a limited amount of especially equipped F-35’s to defeat SAM missiles sites because they are 5th generation stealth armed with anti radiation missiles and air to air to shape the battle field.
@VRG_HQ
@VRG_HQ 3 месяца назад
It’s closer to 45 knots …. Real number is classified… but I know it hauls balls
@sabastion642
@sabastion642 3 месяца назад
What about americas long range bombers stealth aircraft and other weapons/ systems that dominate everything not including nuclear that is another fight altogether
@AlexisLopez-pb8ms
@AlexisLopez-pb8ms 3 месяца назад
I think you give China too much credit
@marro1916
@marro1916 3 месяца назад
Way the fuck too much and this channel doesn't know the U.S.A.F. exists.
@mikey92362
@mikey92362 2 месяца назад
Wait a second here....we have a warship, armed with guns, called the Gabrielle Giffords? WTF? That's just wild.
@UNCLE.SAM69162
@UNCLE.SAM69162 3 месяца назад
I doubt china would attack😂😂😂 there rocket force is full of corruption... using water as fuel😂😂😂 what a joke xi keep on purging there rocket force
@WarH
@WarH Месяц назад
Poo man doesn’t know his right hand from his left .
@brendangriffin1791
@brendangriffin1791 2 месяца назад
Biden has to remember to change his diaper first
@karatedad71
@karatedad71 3 месяца назад
Agree with some of this video but I disagree with most of it. It doesn't take into account China is not battle hardened, and hasn't fought a war in decades. I don't think the air battle is a stalemate either. Also, it doesn't touch on our Sub forces much. Our subs would reek havoc on Chinas fleet. That bit where it mentions the Swedish sub getting close to the Reagan. Swedish subs are loads better than the Chinese, and so are their sailors. It was entertaining to watch as always.
@jacklouie8096
@jacklouie8096 3 месяца назад
Too much RU-vid general
@entertexthere1127
@entertexthere1127 3 месяца назад
This is so outdated. First, there's no more US base in Subic Bay, there are 9 new EDCA bases (Philippines controlled) US base in the Philippines. Second, Philippines has now more than just patrol boats, just last week alone BRP Jose Rizal a guided missile frigate sinked a chinese made ship in South China Sea. Now you know.
@nod00071
@nod00071 3 месяца назад
Biden? The guy who is pooping his pants? Okay yeah sure
@michaelreyes-ih7vq
@michaelreyes-ih7vq 3 месяца назад
sorry trump is the one in depends
@nod00071
@nod00071 3 месяца назад
@@michaelreyes-ih7vq Okay sure
@competitionglen
@competitionglen 3 месяца назад
Our naval numbers are pathetic atm but our Collins class subs, tho old, are still capable platform and would be useful in this conflict. Also, we would be hitting from a different direction from the US navy.
@dobbsbld
@dobbsbld Месяц назад
Total output Win’s Wars not incremental band-aid patches,it’ll take total commitment …
@scotttrotman9931
@scotttrotman9931 13 дней назад
Day 1, b21 raider takes out type-055 cruser , China "admits" there attack was an accident and promptly apologize or face removel off the face of the planet
@repapips8774
@repapips8774 3 месяца назад
So US and PH air defense systems, mid range super sonic cruise missiles and radar systems to detect any attack were not used to defend subic bay base? Hmmm... 🤔
@nataneliasschwenk9308
@nataneliasschwenk9308 3 месяца назад
Biden would take a nap.
@marro1916
@marro1916 3 месяца назад
Trump keeps sleeping and shitting his pants in court.
@Bob1171942
@Bob1171942 3 месяца назад
At least trump is mentally competent. At least he's AWARE he's shitting his pants. He would still come up with a plan and actually support the military and not have restrictions in place that would hinder military leadership WHILE shitting his pants. Biden on the other hand would probably wander off to the presidential kitchen for some ice cream cause we know how much he loves ice cream.
@awjames1121
@awjames1121 3 месяца назад
Agrees biden is sleeping since he takes office until now,,,???...
@chrissschwehr5911
@chrissschwehr5911 3 месяца назад
First of all, we don't have 472 ships available for combat.....We have less than 300. And 40% of our submarine fleet is either under repair or awaiting repair.
@damongraham1398
@damongraham1398 3 месяца назад
I am a fan of the Freedom class LCS. You forgot to mention that LCS has the Longbow Hellfire missiles. Do you really think it will take Biden 2 hours to be informed of the attack of the Independence class LCS? Depending on the platform that carried out the attack on the LCS. A retaliation attack should take less then an hour. If it was a land based missile then it will take about as long as you stated in the video. I would think a long range bomber could attack either those Chinese occupied islands or the warship that attacked the LCS.
@JohnSmith-td7vv
@JohnSmith-td7vv 3 месяца назад
Biden would be informed with in minutes It’s just would take Biden 2h to process the idea of going to the toilet.
@jaimeconcepcion
@jaimeconcepcion 2 месяца назад
It is free to dream. Let the dreamer entertain himself with his dreams.
@dabawenyo2
@dabawenyo2 2 месяца назад
Who needs the Navy? The US and the Philippines are building 4 or 5 full military bases in the northern Philippines at the Taiwan/Philippines choke point, Luzon Strait, south of Taiwan. Batteries of Cruiser Missiles in the Northern Philippines will reach China easily, like the Tomahawks. In a conventional kinetic war, China will be crazy to face India and the US. India used to be just sitting on the fence regarding who to join, China or the US, but now they're with the US. China will face a two-front war; the US, Philippines, and the Allies will be at sea, and then India will face inland up in the mountains. If Russia and North Korea join, Japan and South Korea will be in the North at Miyako Strait (north Taiwan), the northern choke point. China won't do it unless the puppet masters controlling the strings on all countries (China, the US, India, everybody) want someone to do a nuclear first strike with an agenda to reduce global population, then we have a problem. We will hope for the best and start praying. 🙏🙏Is the author a graduate of War College or even an Intelligence Officer? If not, this is just a story.
@adamalmanza2545
@adamalmanza2545 2 месяца назад
The only thing I get out of your videos lately is your support for the Biden campaign. That's your prerogative, but I'm of the opinion that this show shouldn't be about politics masqueraded under a geopolitical context that has transcended over multiple US administrations, regardless of politial party holding office.
@makesaveinccomm
@makesaveinccomm 3 месяца назад
I think its shameful if US lost any carrier or lost any Man on the ship... because US has all the advance toyss.....
@erichahn5665
@erichahn5665 2 месяца назад
Haven't you guys heard of the AGM-158C LRASM (Long Range Anti-Ship Missile)? These pack a 1,000 pound warhead and can be fired by the Super Hornets, B-1s plus all of the destroyers, as they can be launched by the Mk41 vertical launch tubes. The US would lob these in from standoff range and make a real mess of the CCP fleet.
@PoohSeaFresh
@PoohSeaFresh 3 месяца назад
Paper tiger goofy ahh Army 😂😂😂🤭🤭🤭🤣🤣🤣
@ReturntoActs
@ReturntoActs 2 месяца назад
This assumes a myopic scenario where the conflict will be narrowed down in the South China Sea. Its the 21st century and much of the conflict will take place in the US backyard.
@cladinshadow
@cladinshadow 3 месяца назад
As The Fat Electrician says, “History shows us don’t mess with American boats.” It tends to not work out well for those who do that.
@ghelmet2701
@ghelmet2701 3 месяца назад
I love how mother nature is not involved
@GT5.0365
@GT5.0365 2 часа назад
😂 China doesn’t have a prayer
@jasonariola6363
@jasonariola6363 3 месяца назад
America needs to be worried about the UAE and Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦
@jasonariola6363
@jasonariola6363 3 месяца назад
They are unreliable
@WmDuck-gj9mx
@WmDuck-gj9mx 2 дня назад
I wish they’d stop sayingBiden this or that! It’s his string pullers who are deciding these things.
@brianmarsh6592
@brianmarsh6592 2 месяца назад
You left out Russian military, plus the US Air Force completely in this scenario at the very least. They are wary of each other but both want the US damaged plus the possibility of nuclear weapons. I hope we never find out what would happen in the real world
@anthonygaming9227
@anthonygaming9227 3 месяца назад
The US would not try and take over the SCS, they would be content with launching air attacks from land bases and subs, large surface assets would be kept at safe distances in a more limited fight like in this video.
@petersinclair3997
@petersinclair3997 2 месяца назад
Go so far as to hit China’s military shipping ports?
@gianniminicucci7462
@gianniminicucci7462 3 месяца назад
most normal people know that china would last 4 days, max. oh well , back to the stone age..
@iwillramble
@iwillramble 3 месяца назад
China's cartoon navy is mostly composed of small thin skinned and poorly armed patrol boats.
@ardriacrawford
@ardriacrawford 2 месяца назад
I would assume that if Taiwan fights with the US they would declare independence and he probably would end up with a US base of some kind on the island
@joshwebster4627
@joshwebster4627 3 месяца назад
Biden having a plan 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@axizcorp
@axizcorp 3 месяца назад
ssshhhhhhhh don't let them know
@Bob1171942
@Bob1171942 3 месяца назад
If he takes his Alzheimer's medication he MIGHT have a plan. Not sure if it will be based in reality but hey we can't be too optimistic right?
@Hellfox777
@Hellfox777 3 месяца назад
More than what Trump has. But you know he'd be licking Putin's boots, so most likely, he'd be helping Xi.
@benmeek4694
@benmeek4694 3 месяца назад
Better than just saying he has one like trump did for 4 years
@stevenbarden8466
@stevenbarden8466 3 месяца назад
Not this creators greatest work.
@eduardoquirino8131
@eduardoquirino8131 3 месяца назад
The Mutual Defense Treaty between the US and the Philippines is more than a treaty. It was approved by both houses of the US congress and both houses of the Philippines' congress and signed by the Secretary of State of the US and the Foreign Affairs Secretary of the Philippines, finally by both US and Philippine Presidents. If the US does not honor this 73 year old defense treaty, the Philippines will be forced to accept China's desire to control the Luzon Bashi Strait which connects the South China Sea and the Pacific Ocean, thus breaking the formidable island chain that confines China's projection of naval power, also surrender it's entire Exclusive Economic Zone and make useless the United Nations' purpose and integrity.
@jimhanson2860
@jimhanson2860 3 месяца назад
It is only marginally realistic, in the end China will be defeated. You have left out so many of the US weapons The US would stop trading with China and this would have a big effect on thier economy. You left out the possibility of India lending a hand, and Vietnam.
@stevewenners
@stevewenners 3 месяца назад
Ate you forgetting Chinas ship full of 10,000 drones? Or America's 20 ships of 25,000 drones in each
@OniMetsuki
@OniMetsuki 3 месяца назад
China has more submarines than the US. I have been hearing this for a long time now. A quick search shows China with 78 and the US with 68 submarines.
@ObiWanShinobi917
@ObiWanShinobi917 3 месяца назад
China lists many of their submarines but doesn't mention that a lot of them are still under construction. As of right now, the U.S. has more active duty subs. And U.S. subs are all technologically superior and better built than Chinese subs.
@greenktoo
@greenktoo 2 месяца назад
The american crews are much much better trained than their Chinese counterparts also.
@OniMetsuki
@OniMetsuki 2 месяца назад
@@greenktoo Yup, that especially is their biggest shortfall. That and experience too. With the current economic direction China is moving they will have a lot less funding in the future.
@bryanzee3714
@bryanzee3714 2 месяца назад
" Biden devise a plan " hahaha!!!
@Orcalein7367
@Orcalein7367 2 месяца назад
That was a joke .....
@Dra741
@Dra741 26 дней назад
Taiwan, it has large numbers and batteries of anti shipping missiles that can be fired from land
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