Hands down the Integra has literally every instrument known to man in its library. I went looking for Spanish castanets for a track I was working on. I checked my NI, Spitfire, Arturia libraries and couldn't find one. I said, "What the heck, let's check the Intergra 7." I had to use the PDF file to search for castanet because the 6500 tones on the Integra is a bit too much to search through manually. Holy s**t the Intergra 7 has like 4 castanets that are fully modeled. If you ever need an instrument, I'm sure there's one on the I7.
Me personally, I like both! I would love to have the integra 7 NOW since I listen to both. So what the I-7 is old? The motif EX and XS is old as well and I know guys/gals STILL record & perform with them. The montage is great with the orchestral sounds and the I-7 is great on it’s own also. It’s just a matter of taste and creativity. They both sound great!😌🎹🎶👍🏾
In general, I think that the Montage sounded a little better, although the reverb was a bit much on some of the sounds. Even so, the Roland sounded excellent and it also has all of the XV and JD sounds, so it would be a great addition to any studio.
I sold my integra three years ago to buy a new 2019 Mac Pro desktop WHICH WERENT CHEAP! I gotta say, I have yet to find certain sounds in sound libraries on my Mac. I used to use mark of unicorn Mach 5.3 but they stopped updating it which is a crying shame considering how absolutely useful that program was. I am seriously thinking of getting another integra. The electric pianos and pianos and drums and acoustic bass and Solo strings and brass are hard to argue with. Tge synths aren’t bad either. It’s a very strong contender and considering age, that’s quite a compliment. If MOTU would work on Mach 5.3 if prolly go with that but the integra is a very useful tool!
I'm thinking of getting one, because I've spent 15 years composing with these ultra realistic sounds, don't do film score commission work anymore, just working on making soundtracks for games, and I'm sick of all the logins, internet requirements, and ilok madness, slow load times. Just miss the days of having a keyboard when I first started, and just starting it up and composing midi files.
@@shad0wfax I’m thinking about getting the I-7 and hooking it up with a XF8 (I know the XF is outdated but those pianos and orchestral sounds are so warm to my ears; can’t part with it). That would be a crazy combo. But the MODX and I-7? Oh hell yeah! DEFINITELY KILLER!!😕🎹🎶👍🏾
I have a modx and an I 7, both are great for different things. I7 : supernatural synths, supernatural drums, supernatural flugelhorn and famous SRX cards. The Modx excels at orchestrals and keyboards. It has 1gb of mutisample capabilities. So to have the two is great.
Is this really a fair comparison? Different sequences, fx, etc., for instrument comparison? Should each instrument have played the same sequence, with the same fx etc?
Throw some more Verb into the I7 and it would sound far more simmilar to the Yamaha, add s bit of Chorus also and they would both be near dead on. I have used the I7 nearly since its beginning. The Yamaha may be more out of the box sound friendly over the I7 but a good engineer could get them sounding near exact
I totally agree. Yamaha usually provide their synths with very polished, "finished" presets. With the Roland you have to work a bit more in order to get the sound you want. The quality and the resources are there, but it requires effort and practice to get the most out of it.
I have since many years ago Yamaha Motif Rack XS and for the scenario Is not changed too much...still XS Rack sound great as well since all this time Is passed
I partially disagree. In an ideal context, the best alternative would be to use the exact same midi files, but generic midi files wouldn't show all the potential of each machine. I mean that both the Integra and the Montage take advantage in their audition phrases of the different functions and parameters related to each type of sound. For instance, many audition phrases on the Montage control the values of the "super knob" in order to control different nuances of the sound and/or effects. In the same way, the Integra also modifies parameters like different paying techniques (e.g. harmonics, mute, falls, pizzicato...) or the amount of noise/resonance or whatever. If the same midi files were used, the "native" source would benefit from them and would lead to the biased impression that it sounds much better than the other. The most balanced and fair option is that each synth uses their own sources.
Sure, they are both fantastic machines, and for that reason I own both of them ;) The aim of this video is just to showcase the differences, not to state a "winner" and a "loser".
I forgot to actually compare the montage….there’s a lot to like about the Yamaha but it lacks the acoustic realism of the integra and the integra has tons of outs and internal mixing strengths.
I think the Montage is superior in many ways (especially organs, strings and guitars) but it also has newer technology with more elements per sound and more memory. The added reverb on the Montage definitely makes it harder to compare.
I could tell when the sounds came from the Montage without looking from the reverb..Reverb can make a patch sound more alive but there seems to be too much reverb on every sound on the Montage in my opinion.
Sure, but sadly I don't have a Fantom (donations are welcome 😉). AFAIK, the Fantom's synthesis engine is different and it does not include the "SuperNatural Acoustic" sounds of the I7.
Montage tends to sound thin and has to use big amounts of reverbs (violins for example) to hide its weaknesses. Roland integra7 sounds much more realistic and organic in my opinion. I have several songs composed and peformed in my channel using only integra7 sounds e.g. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GtLLgO6ZuBA.html
Thus, Messing with a few, I feel the sounds from korg and yahama sound thin compare to roland, Its much more meat on the sounds and it has more of a realistic sound as you said.
Integra all the way in every field (kick drum aside, in drums) ! I'm surprised by it, not so much the EP's but flamenco guitars are pretty darn close. Brass is ok but not amazing. I love Yamaha for their CLP and acoustic pianos but that's it.
As much as I would LOVE a rack-mounted instrument like the Integra 7, got to say that the Montage pretty much dominated in all categories, especially with the acoustic instruments. The guitar was much better, and even the flute and clarinet. Heck, the clarinet actually sounded like a clarinet on the Montage. The Integra was definitely great during it's time, but that time is long gone. Thanks for the video! Very nicely done, and great playing!
Hello David, sorry to post here off topic, but have you published the settings on your Roland Fantom XR when you made the Sierra On-Line soundtracks? I'm interested in sourcing a Fantom XR for the purposes of having that same level of music for in-game play, but don't have the slightest idea on feasibility. If you'd be willing to share any information, I'd appreciate it. If not, thanks for your contributions!
Hi Ken, thank you for your interest in my versions of Sierra's soundtracks; it was quite long ago though, as I sold the Fantom XR to buy the (then) new Integra-7, and that was over 10 years ago. I'm not sure if I understand you well, but if you are thinking in using the Fantom as an in-game sound source, at most you'd be using the General Midi sounset (in GM-compatible games), which are indeed the weakest ones of that synth. When I made my versions I worked directly on the MIDI data of the games, using Cubase and the Fantom-X software editor. It required quite a lot of work (which had mostly to be done by hand), and it was for having an alternative (and hopefully better sounding) soundtrack, but not to listen directly to the Fantom while playing the games. Hope this helps!
@@shad0wfaxThere is no "hopefully" about it, your version sounds WAY better than the General Midi in-game soundtrack IMHO. Also, with all due respect to Mr. Hodges, I like your version better than his remake. I thought that it was a case where you needed to specify which instruments play for which sound bank, or something similar. Not sure if that is the same as what you did to produce your awesome version, but it sounds like a lot of work nonetheless. I'll continue to learn more about MIDI as I find it really interesting. Thanks for taking the time to answer, and for arranging that sound track. It remains one of my favorites even to this day :)
the guitar sounds of intega are so pathetic against montage.montage sound are realy realistic,roland sound like a 70 bugs casio keyboard.yamaha kills roland
