Couple of notes: 1) this scene missed one last moment that Yamaguchi actually passed the departing officer of his naval cap as parting gift. 2) the sailors that abandoned the ship was later scattered all over pacific islands since Japan was covering up the embarrassment back home so they don't want anyone to return to main land to deliver the bad news.
Shows how these men would die for there emperor and country and yet they wouldn’t be saved by the country they fought for still I don’t think any of the sailors would care because they were so indoctrinated by the emperor
Actually, the officer who was given the deck cap was higher ranking. The officer in the film is a LTJG, who was probably supposed to be RADM Yamaguchi's aide. The officer who received his deck cap was Carrier Division 2's Senior Staff Officer, CDR Ito Seiroku. The survivors of Midway were initially returned home to Japan before they were eventually reassigned to other posts. The wounded were quarantined aboard hospital ships Hikawa Maru (which survived the war and is currently a museum and hotel) and Takasago Maru. Many were KIA aboard other ships.
This is such a touching moment when the young officer offers to stay with the ship as it goes down. This movie, while mostly focusing on the American view of the war, took great pains to show how it looked to the Japanese. When I think of this movie, this is always the first scene that comes to mind. Beautiful and sad, well written, acted, filmed, and edited.
@@parkerteo8708 In Singapore's Kranji War Cemetery, you can see the graves and headstones of both enlisted men and officers from various countries that fought against the Japanese invaders during WW2 Based on their DOB and date of death, many of them should have been in school instead of holding guns and dying so far from home. But they did, and for this we are eternally grateful to them.
*DarthAverage* I'm just over 50 and I still call 49 old. Even when I was just in my thirties, visiting war cemeteries at Normandy (not the American but a joint British - German cemetery), looking at how young those kids were who died in the ferocious fighting of the Bocage countryside... Most were 18 or 19. I saw a few headstones of 'old men,' who were 26 and 29.
The most sad part about this scene that we dont see is there are still sailors trapped under decks, just like the Kaga. They couldn't saved them so they haded to scuttle the ship.😢
A group from the engine room did manage to reach the flight deck the next morning. A Scout from one of the Light Carriers saw them and they were rescued.
@@alexravex4575 A lot of the engine room teams were trapped due to fires the cut off passageways and in a few instances heated the door so much that they could not be opened. This was common on ships suffering battle damage. Three engineers were trapped on the USS Yorktown. They were in contact with other crewmembers until the carrier sank.
@@japs7424 That blame can be squarely placed on Chuichi Nagumo who was too prideful and stubborn to even consider the concept of being outsmarted/the Americans anticipating his plans. He was also the one who prioritized sinking battleships during the attack on Pearl Harbor instead of finding and sinking carriers and taking out the massive stocks of fuel. Destroying those would've crippled the USN in the Pacific far more than sinking a few old battleships and wrecking some planes. While a massive shock at first, the attack on Pearl Harbor wasn't as devestating as portrayed. Most ships could be recovered and brought back into action (i.e. the USS West Virginia, which mauled the IJN during the Battle of Leyte Gulf), ships like the USS Arizone being total write-offs.
@@japs7424There were actually two cases during the war games where someone did something “impossible” and won Midway as the Americans. Shattered Sword goes into a lot of detail about just how rigged the war games were
It's not clearly implied in the movie, but in reality the admirals took note of the possible American trap, and thus Nagumo was given strict orders to only use half of his bombers to attack Midway, while the other half stands by with naval weapons in case they spot the enemy fleet. Sadly Nagumo broke the order because he thought Midway was still a threat, allegedly because one of the American bombers almost crashed into his carrier's bridge.
@@huswefm they couldn’t save the ship because fires were spreading all over and was impossible to extinguish it plus they didn’t want to risk their ship being captured by the US Navy so their best way to them was to sink them to prevent it from falling into American hands
For those who said scuttling it was a waste. Do realize it was far away from any base. Heavily damaged possibly to the point of it would cost more than it's worth to repair it in resources, it is not combat capable, and there are fires aboard ship that can spread which could cause it to detonate. If she had been close to land and had more support they probably would have made a effort to save the ship but at this point its a liability.
The error was not retreating whenthe other 3 were taken out. Losing 2/3rds of Kido Butai was not recoverable. But if Hiriyu lived you still have half of it
@@paulrasmussen8953 the error was that they attacked anyway without doing some math. The 4 carriers in the Kido Butai that attacked Midway had about 260 aircraft. Midway itself had close to 130 aircraft, which means even 2 American carriers would have been able to fight on close to equal footing with the IJN. Added to that that there were orders to reserve half their aircraft to strike the American carriers, there just weren’t enough planes without the other 2 carriers to carry out the operation. They should have waited until at least one of the others was operational
@@randomminecraftplayer6857 mostnof modways planes were not suited for antiship. They should have broke policoy and allowed the air group of one carrier to transfer to the less damaged one. As is both sodes had to scrape together those final assaults
Soooo the funny thing is Admiral Yamaguchi had NO obligation to go down with the ship. He was an admiral, setting his flag on the ship, in command of other ships. It was Captain Kaku's expectation to look after all souls on the vessel. If the Flag officer was still on board, the captain cannot is good seafaring tradition leave the ship. He was therefore obligated by tradition to stay with the flag officer. Honestly kind of a dick move by Yamaguchi, as he basically guilted the captain to stay with him, and this is why he allows him to do so.
@Jure Herman I'm not sure about that. 1976 version did the best with what they had. These days, with ever present CGI, you can do pretty much anything you want but Hollywood simply doesn't care. I was laughing my ass off when i found out that the Navy endorsed this crap.
“ The loss of the battle falls into the hands of the commanders, not you.” He’s right a lot of the axis powers the younger men were mostly just drawn into this and didn’t know how to combat it the only thing they knew was war and he’s exactly right
@@lyhthegreatThough unlike the Nazis, the Japanese had been like this culturally for centuries. That’s more understandable than an entire nation going from one of the most progressive nations of the 1920s to the most genocidal over the course of about 20 years because some crackhead wrote a book.
Contrary to the myth, Admiral Yamamoto Isoroku was still a believer in Battleship Supremacy, although he did recognize the potential of a/c carriers. When it came to carrier warfare, a master tactician he certainly was not, but his subordinate & close personal friend RADM Yamaguchi Tamon was. ADM Yamamoto would come to loath the desire of his best senior officers & his most elite pilots to “go down with the ship” after a setback or defeat. Though it wouldn’t have changed a thing about the outcome of the Pacific War, the carrier battles of late 1942 would’ve been considerably different & far more interesting w/ an ADM Yamaguchi commanding the carriers instead of an overly cautious ADM Nagumo.
Yamamoto was the master mind behind pearl harbor was assassinated when code breakers found out he was doing a tour of inspection planes with 50 cal machine guns shot him down he crashed on boughnsville island one of the Solomon Island the bullets struck him on the shoulder,neck and the back of his head as he crashed he got thrown off the seat killing him meant the US removed Japan's most important figure from the game a chief strategist in other words after pearl harbor he wrote in his diary I fear all we have done is awoken a sleeping giant and filled him with terrible resolve cause he knew Japan would lose from the start but his superiors were ignorent and they gambled to knock out the us fleet in one blow but what they didn't know was the air craft carriers which are important targets weren't there at the time and they didn't destroy the oil storage by doing a 3rd wave which is why the us recovered from the attack so soon.
When he heard that Akagi Kaga and Soryu were hit, he ordered the Hiryu to be used as bait to lure the American carriers close to his main battle fleet composing of 5 battleships including the newly constructed Yamato.
@@elmanco6885 Yep which is why they taught them to crash into fleet carriers instead after the battle at midway which was the turning point in the war the Japs didn't recover because it was the knockout blow that halted there ambitions so during the battle of the Philippines sea they got shot down by the US so easily cause the Japs only had basic training they called it the great marinas turkey shoot cause it was literally men against boys after that the US dominated the air and sea until the Japs were brought to there knees once and for all.
Admiral Yamaguchi and Captain Kaku going down with their ship shows vividly the sense of honor that Japanese naval officers had. Kaku clearly felt that if Yamaguchi was to go down as an 'atonement' for the loss of the battle, then he - as Hiryu's captain - needed to join him. Yamaguchi agreed with that logic.
She fought to the very end and died as befitting a true samurai. She may have been our foe, but she and her men deserve nothing more than utmost respect. Sleep well Hiryu, say hello to Yorktown for us….
Sailors of all nations have the unique position of sharing the same grave. This makes even the enemy comrades in their eyes and why sailors from all sides went to great lengths to save sailors in the water. They knew that could easily be them on any other day.
@@jfangm Even if those said sailors committed war crimes? Look up what happened to Bruno Guido, The sailor Spruance promoted earlier that day for saving the Enterprise from a kamikaze bomber, those animals threw him over the side.
"The loss of this battle falls on the heads of your commanders, not you... though when you get back to Japan, you'll be quarantines and shipped off to die to without seeing family first so we can keep this loss a secret, while the commanders won't be penalized at all."
I also found that one of the mechanic that survive from Hiryu actually end up at Iwo Jima and had been sent there since 1943. He work on fixing Zeroes and Ki-43 that occasionally land there for maintnance before being sent off to either Truk Island or Zuikaku/Shoukaku for their Solomon Islands Campaign. Throughout his life there, he had been bullied, spit on, force to overwork from his crewmate who thought that he is a coward and a failure for being part of the reason why Japan is losing the war at that point. When the American attack starts on February 1945. While he was using a machine gun to fend off the American attack at the beach. As per order of General Kuribayashi, the entire bunker defense line are to be abandon to fall back to the next line of defense around Mount Sarubachi. But his "friends" decide to use him as bait and lock the bunker door behind him from the outside, trapping him and leave him expose to enemy fire. A moment after that, a Sherman blast open the bunker but he miraculously survive with just a broken arm and some broken teeth and would be capture as a prisoner of war where the American would learn about who he was and how his life unfold since the Battle of Midway.
@@kaijuslayer3334 Japan went out of it's way to keep Midway a secret and lied about it all the way up until their defeat. Survivors were kept under strict silence orders and were sent to duty stations away from the mainland (which also happened to have pretty high death rates).
I like how the Japanese naval officer in charge of the destroyer's torpedoes grimly and even fanatically follows final orders. Target Hiryu bearing ninety degrees. YAAAAAAAH
In case you did not know, one of the officers of the Hiryū was called Toshio Abe, he survived the attack by the aircraft carrier Hiryū, who later in 1944 was captain of the third twin of the yamato, the shinano aircraft carrier and he died in the sinking of the shinano after the attack of the uss submarine. ARCHERFISH
@@ssobergruppenfuhrerpeanut3674 I copied this from Wikipedia. These are the locations of surviving Balao-Class subs (same class as archerfish) USS Batfish (SS-310) at War Memorial Park in Muskogee, Oklahoma[42] USS Becuna (SS-319) at Independence Seaport Museum in Philadelphia[43] USS Bowfin (SS-287) at USS Bowfin Submarine Museum & Park in Honolulu[44] USS Clamagore (SS-343) at Patriot's Point in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina[45] USS Ling (SS-297) at New Jersey Naval Museum in Hackensack, New Jersey[46] USS Lionfish (SS-298) at Battleship Cove in Fall River, Massachusetts[47] USS Pampanito (SS-383) at San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park in San Francisco[48] USS Razorback (SS-394) at Arkansas Inland Maritime Museum in North Little Rock, Arkansas[49]
@@cheesedmacaroni Clamagore has sadly been scrapped. I fortunately got to tour her towards the end of her life, as sad as it was it was obvious her time had come.
I know it is their custom to fight to the death such as in banzai charges but I think if the Japanese did not do all of that they would have probably held out longer during the Pacific campaign and who knows, maybe they could have started to regain ground. General Kuribayashi is a great example on how not permitting banzai charges as a way to fight to the death was incredibly effective. Iwo Jima was supposed to fall in 5 days assuming Kuribayashi was like the other Japanese commanders and generals but with Kuribayashi’s leadership the Japanese held for 36 days. He also presumably led the final defense on Iwo Jima and was killed in action which in my opinion is probably more honorable than seppuku.
I agree. Analizing the data suicide attacks were way less effective than "conventional" fighting, even considering the famous Kamikaze, which were used mainly because they lacked trained pilots that didn´t even know how to land their planes (didn´t need to).
If we think about it, if there was less emphasis put on the Bushido code and Nationalism, Japan could’ve either held out until the Soviet’s and US put enough pressure or they could’ve relatively gone through the war unscathed and with the title of “Well we held out as long as we could”
But then again, it was this devotion to discipline and loyalty that made a tiny country like japan, deprived of natural resources, so formidable in the first place.
“We must not let the enemy capture this ship!” America: “I mean... we got 24 new class carriers coming out soon as well as more ships so... we’re good.”
yeah that line was kinda dumb like the ship was already damaged af so idk why they thought america would want it. Maybe spirit or something but i respect it
this shows the cruelty of war. young lives either gone or drastically changed. war is just a massive waste of life for leaders who care more about their pride and egos than the lives they're suppose to lead and protect
Why? Because he charged like an idiot with 1 carrier vs 3 instead of opening the range to take advantage of his planes' superior range compared to American ones? That's probably what Ozawa would have done. Pity that by the time he got to command, the IJN was thoroughly overmatched in both numbers and quality by USN, courtesy of vastly superior US industry and resources. At the Philippine sea, US lost 25 planes to Japanese planes and AAA and 80 to Ozawa's tactics (and their own admirals' rashness).
@@VersusARCH well he is not ,because he try to sink US carrier at all cost alone, well just because US Carrier more better it not sink easily, but if US Carrier same Quality with Japanese Carrier, USS Yorktown already Sink.
@@VersusARCH Yamaguchi made the decision based on the information at the time that Americans had 2 carriers and it was determined that it is still possible to fight on its own with Hiryu's planes. Disrespect is the weapon of the weak -- Alice Miller
The Philippines will at be your side as well, they seem to be building one their “islands” near Luzon and I’d hate to see my country fall into a more corrupt government and generally corrupt ideology.
@DiscordChaos hopefully it’ll be non-nuclear but I think the threat of it is to high. Then again NATO could attack Chinese holdings in Africa maybe but who knows
I have learned that all Japanese carriers were destroyed here at the Midway battle, but I didn't know this part where Hiryu and its commanding officer went down by being torpedoed
All four of the carriers were scuttled with torpedos, sounds like Soryu and Kaga were seriously fucked fast, while the Akagi and Hiryu they fiercely fought to save them for quite a few hours. The Hiryu took several hours after being torpedoed to fully sink, tough ships but not tough enough.
Captain Aoki was the only Carrier Captain to survive. He also attempted to go down with his ship but was forcefully removed. Kaga's was killed by explosions and Soryu's Captain jumped into the fire after suffering horrible burns during the attack.
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I love this film and how accurate it is, I saw this film right after visiting Pearl Harbor, I'm also happy that this film didn't dehumanize the Japanese, like every other war film loves to dehumanize the Germans and the Japanese, both were human beings and its disrespectful
I deeply respect Admiral Yamaguchi and Captain Kaku here with choosing to go down with the Hiryu and her deceased crew members while the survivors are evacuated and transferred to the escort ships to be taken back to Japan, taking full responsibility for the Hiryu's destruction and loss of one of the carriers that launched the Pearl Harbor attack. The one young officer's plea to stay with them being politely refused by Yamaguchi makes it clear he wants his crew to live on and continue serving Emperor Hirohito loyally and faithfully in his honor and memory.
That young officer was also the same guy who made a tactical move in the wargame earlier on in the movie. He played as the USN fleet and ambushed Nagumo's fleet from the northeast of Midway, for which he was berated for since Nagumo was adament that the USN was incapable of reaching Midway from Pearl Harbour and won't see the IJN coming. He probably believed that it was partially his fault since he saw it coming and could have done something about it.
The sailors that abandoned the ship was later scattered all over pacific islands since Japan was covering up the embarrassment back home, so they don't want anyone to return to mainland to deliver the bad news.
@@johnburns9634 Good point. Don't want to cause a panic if they learn the Battle of Midway was a huge defeat for the IJN and leaves the home islands a lot more vulnerable.
The officer who made this request was not a Lieutenant Junior Grade as seen in the film. He was CDR Ito Seiroku, Senior Staff Officer of Carrier Division 2. RADM Yamaguchi removed his cap and gave it to Ito as a keepsake. IIRC it is now on display in the Kure Maritime Museum.
I have the feeling that the directors of Midway took Tora Tora Tora as a “inspiration” how to make this movie, by showing both sides the US and Japanese, also showing that the Japanese were humans too instead of an “evil” enemy.
@@BananaPhoPhilly IJN were not saints either. Some pilots were captured then thrown overboard. Some good and some bad. The same is true for the IJA. Many bad and some just regular soldiers just fighting for their country. Many were scared too.
Tora! Tora! Tora! was great in portraying the events, POVs from both sides. It still is the best movie about the Pearl Harbor attack. An older WWII movie that did very well in showing the view from multiple sides is The Longest Day. For as many nationalities they gave time for in that movie, it was a damn good job in making it all work out very well.
@@BananaPhoPhilly There's a lot of very dirty things that everyone was doing in the Pacific if you start digging hard enough into the history. I'm not talking about what Marines and Imperial Japanese Army were doing to each other, there's a lot of terrible things that were going on in the seas out there. At Midway, one of the Japanese Destroyers picked up a US Navy pilot out of the water. They tortured, interrogated him to get information about the US Carriers, and then tied weights around him and threw him overboard. There was an IJN Submarine that had sunk a Commonwealth transport. The submarine picked up some survivors, gathered them on the deck, tied them together and submerged the submarine while they were still bound. A few of them survived and got picked up by the Allies, that's how they knew of the incident. In the Battle of the Bismarck Sea, a Japanese convoy of 8 transport ships loaded with reinforcement soldiers bound for New Guinea, were escorted by 8 Destroyers. They were swamped by repeated Australian and American air force bombers, sinking all 8 transports and half the escorting Destroyers. The brutality started when one of the American B-17s were shot down, the crew bailed out, and the Zero pilots started shooting them while in their parachutes. American PT Boats would later get into the areas where the transports, Destroyers were sunk, attacking, shooting men in the water and life rafts, as well as disrupting rescue attempts. The Japanese were very brutal and that brutality was returned in kind. This is very different with say, how the Western Allies fought the European Axis forces. War is hell and all, but when British, American, etc. surrendered to the Italians or Germans, they'd be treated decently. Same thing vice versa. The Pacific and Eastern front though, it wasn't like that, it was brutal and a lot of cruelty was going on. Bro, then there's the stuff that was going on in China. China had been at war with Japan years before the attack on Pearl Harbor drew the US into the conflict. Events in China had long been out of control, it was a bloodbath there. What the Japanese were doing in China was actually what got the United States into a downward spiral in relations with Japan, as it protested heavily with actions going on in China. It was that bad there.
The death of Tamon yamaguchi was not necessary. He was not wounded and will have been probably more important alive than dead. He was a so good admiral that his decision his only understandable in a perfect adoption of Bushido code. He has not failed, because he cause serious damages to uss fleet with extremely limited forces. He had done his job. He was one a the rare person who had doubt about the rule of carrier in the MI operation (two targets-Midway and provoke the american fleet to go out and offer the possibility to destroy with enormous battleships like Yamato (what were in this battle totally useless)).
MIDWAY -1942 & NOW! It was June the 4th 1942, As I was floating in the ocean alone The ship I had sailed on, sank to the bottom And I thought I would never again, see home. The Japanese fleet had steamed in from the east With the intentions of capturing Midway. Though they were stopped by American war ships Whose guns, bombs and torpedoes planes saved the day. All night long, I watched the fireworks of war And on the second day we turned up the heat. As big bombers from Hawaii dropped their loads On Japanese ships who soon chose to retreat. An imperial pilot came floating close by Who had been chewed on by the beasts of the sea. I couldn't help but feel passion for this is man Who had answered his call just like me. When it was over, I was plucked from the deep By men in a lifeboat just after the dawn. For two days I had watched the battle for, Midway Now it's quiet and the enemy has gone. It’s not a priest that gives us our freedom of religion And it’s not a reporter that gives us our freedom of voice. It’s not any judge, lawyer, politician, preacher or teacher But the blood of a soldier that has sacrificed by choice. THANK YOU FOR WHO YOU ARE IN YOUR HEART ! By Tom Zart Google = Most Published Poet Tom’s 1,650 Poems Are Free To Share! Google = George Bush Tom Zart
@@Thor_Odinson Their war crimes were similar to those done by many other peoples, just from earlier time periods. The Rape of Nanking was no different than how Vikings, Mongols, Romans treated ANY city they SACKED. The Scots when they sacked the English city of York. The Native Americans inter tribal wars before the white men arrived were horrendous and genocidal (entire tribal nations were exterminated by larger more powerful tribal nations, etc). There are tons of historical examples of depraved and cruel acts by conquerors. The issue is that Japan was a medieval people, thrust into the modern age in a few generations. Hell, even the Red Army and the Wehrmacht did horrendous things to the people they conquered. Do you excuse them?
I got emotional to this scene. It changed my look on the Japanese during ww2. Yes, they were cruel to enemies but they fought for their country and their lives. As an American of the next generation, I forgive the Japanese. And I can only hope god gives mercy on those who fought bravely. May the dead rest in paradise. 🙏🏻✝️
@@baseplate7566 There were many Japanese Navy officers who perpetrated war crimes, not just the Japanese Army. But I agree that the regular serviceman, who was just following orders, cannot be blamed because those things happened also on the Allied side. Not as numerous as the Japanese atrocities but enough. Like the Laconia Incident.
At least your trying to forgive and forget my country on the other hand faught against the nazis and now our country is ran by them reducing free speech laws getting jailed for 7 years if you offend someone oh and don't forget about jail time for calling the first minister a nazi
Shame the movie didn't show it (Probably because of some bias for the Americans), but Hiryu as the sole surviving Japanese carrier in the battle of Midway attacked twice, and those two attacks are considered to be one of the most coordinated carrier strikes in the war. If they didn't mistake the Yorktown for another carrier since it got repaired so quickly, Hiryu would've sunk or at least badly damage two carriers alone. It and admiral Yamaguchi eventually went down in battle like true warriors
The worst part is even when they hit the hiryu with 3 torpedoes, in real life it still took an hour before she sank. The crew did so good with damage control they they had sealed a lot of the water tight compartments, but the engines were out, the water maines were cut in midship so they couldn't fight the fires anymore. But she still held on to be sunk. The curse of the yukikaze raged the entire war and beyond.
IJN > IJA change my mind. It's crazy to think how different this war could of gone were it not for the sheer disparity between the US military's industry and resources compared to Japan's. If the IJN could have churned out endless waves of carriers like the USN could, then we might all be speaking Japanese right now.
tht was the issue for japan/germany/italy. 3 small countries with limited manpower/equipment/industrial capacity vs 3 titans england/russia/usa. usa alone could've taken germany/japan/italy..... but russia and usa that's overkill.
yeah nah,if japan,germany or axis the one who win,rather than speaking japanese/german we are more likely to die,lets be real,USA and allies is no good,but compared to axis?? well believe it or not,this is the case where those so called "fate/destiny" that usually will go for the "good guy" and not the bad guy actually works,thank god for that.
@@joeswanson733 wouldn't call england a titan, after they've lost most of their colonial territories..america was a true beast at churning out war machines while Russia won because of general winter.
If only they understood that their experience would be very needed later on. The lack of experience in the IJN in terms of pilots and sailors made a huge difference
Its so sad. The worst part is the destoyer firing the torpedo at hiryu and one crewmember wanted to go down with the ship but was was stopped by the admiral itself.😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Four fleet carriers gone. Many experienced pilots gone. Many experienced engineers gone. These were losses the US could replace fairly easily, but Japan could not.
The Japanese military especially then were many things. Probably many bad things, but. There is one thing they were almost never not. Brave, and that must be respected.
Axis leaders were evil. The poor sobs on the ground mostly deserve sympathies. Nazi had to implement the concentration camp and gas chambers because a lot of soldiers couldn't bring themselves to slaughter Jews/gypsies/etc.
@@theknightwiththen-wordpass7084 The LEADERS were evil. A huge number of the young men who fought and died were DRAFTED and conscripted into service. You can have sympathy for the average guy who was conscripted into service to 'serve his government'. Even with Nazi Germany, many of the young German soldiers Mid war to late war were drafted into service, whether they agreed with the German Government's positions or not. When people get older, they begin to see the difference between a GOVERNMENT being evil and it's own people. Now the people believe the propaganda of the government, but that's not their fault. that's what propaganda does.
I hope Hiryu will be found in the future. She, Soryu are the last two carrier that still need to be found. Two other ships lost at Midway that not been found yet are the Mogami class cruiser Mikuma and the destroyer USS Hammann which was torpedoed by the submarine I-168 while attempting to save USS Yorktown.
Tbh those and rms naronic are some of the ships I’d love to be discovered and see the wrecks of the most And I’d love for the us navy to one day post footage of USS America’s wreck
The crews and officers of the carriers were scattered all over the pacific after the battle. They did this to keep the news of the defeat from reaching the home islands. Most of them died in combat.
If you read the book "Fading Victory" by Matome Ugaki...it will give a very picture how Yamaguchis death affected the Imperial fleet, Isoroku Yamamoto and the war for Japan.
Yamaguchi had two opportunities to save Hiryu: during the first catastrophic dive bomber attack on Kido Butai in the morning, by turning out of US carriers effective range. But no, he joined the cruisers and battleships advancing on the known position of TF16/17. Later that day, damaged as Hiryu was, the engines and steering gear were still intact. Av fuel and munitions were low, so there was no unquenchable fire. It was the elevator blown up against the island that was the breaking point. Classic case of the prize fighter with the delicate glas jaw.
Maybe. I read that Hiryu's damage control teams had almost reached the engine rooms to save their ship and restore power. Those teams (as on the other Imperial carriers that day) would stay at their posts to the last man and suffocate, rather than give up.
Also, Hiryu's fires were not as devastating as they were on Soryu and Kaga. After 3 attacks during morning and afternoon, the magazines were nearly empty of munitions and the supply of av gas was nearly gone. Damage was about the same as later happened to Bunker Hill and Franklin. It only required a more resourceful crew to get the ship home. Yamaguchi's mad need to attack at all costs was what doomed the ship.
It's not quitting fool. It was the Japanese's misguided ethos that it was better to die in battle than to live and fight another day. That was a cultural thing that gave the Americans an advantage. You know nothing about the Japanese Culture, and it shows. As a side note, the mythological Klingon culture (in Star Trek) of 'dying in glorious battle' rather than surviving, was borrowed from the Japanese Bushido code.
The younger officer must have been feeling so guilty about the defeat. He must be feeling, "if only i had pressed my case stronger during that wargame with Nagumo."
Unfortunately, this movie missed one of the most poignant moment where Yamaguchi hand over his cap when his crew asked for a memorabilia, having been denied the opportunity to join their admiral. It is a moment covered in the Japanese movie “Yamamoto”.
Trivia: the destroyer that scuttled the Hiryu was the Makigumo - the very same destroyer that picked up the downed Bruno Gaido and whose crew executed him soon after. In the film that takes place after the scuttling, but IRL it happened before.
What's your point? It wouldn't have mattered which ship had picked up Gaido. The Japanese armed forced during World War II demanded death before dishonour from their own soldiers, sailors and pilots. Any Japanese serviceman who was captured alive was seen as a disgrace and failure. Imagine how they viewed enemy POWs. Btw, it was routine practice for the US Navy to strafe rafts and even Chinese fishing boats. Why Chinese fishing boats? Well, they looked all the same you know.
It’s the ultimate sacrifice and shows the intensity of bushido but how much did this hurt them in the long run. Despite the defeat these were very capable leaders who would have learned from this defeat and probably informed a better strategy going forward. Imagine if MAcArthur killed himself after losing the Philippines. What would that have done to the war effort?
En realidad, el oficial que recibió la gorra de cubierta era de rango superior. El oficial de la película es un LTJG, que probablemente era el ayudante del RADM Yamaguchi. El oficial que recibió su gorra de cubierta era el Oficial Superior de Estado Mayor de la División de Portaaviones 2, CDR Ito Seiroku.
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Some japanese generals/admirals have a great sense of honor. I respect that they know and that they truly care about their men. (Excluding the war crimes)
@@octaviosilva390 The same Japanese Actor appeared in the Sci fi movie "Battleship" and as a Japanese Naval Officer, he helps the Americans blow up an Alien Warship in the Pacific.
Sure this is one of the most Hollywood WW2 movies,but at least it shows both sides, it honors both the Japanese and Americans who fought in this battle, and unlike other typical Hollywood films, the enemies are honorable and show respect towards one another
