Lady Mormont was right about the strength of Mormont men. Despite there only being 62 of them one of them still managed to make it that far to leave the shield Jon used to defend himself from Ramsey's arrows.
Also, if you look closely, it’s the mormonts (known for their long gold hairs) that surrounded jon in the middle of the stampede. Making sure jon is safe. A pretty cool subtle detail
RIP Wun Wun! I'll just leave this here for those who haven't read the books, I like this song so much. I am the last of the giants, my people are gone from the earth. The last of the great mountain giants, who ruled all the world at my birth. Oh the smallfolk have stolen my forests, they’ve stolen my rivers and hills. And they’ve built a great wall through my valleys, and fished all the fish from my rills. In stone halls they burn their great fires, in stone halls they forge their sharp spears. Whilst I walk alone in the mountains, with no true companion but tears. They hunt me with dogs in the daylight, they hunt me with torches by night. For these men who are small can never stand tall, whilst giants still walk in the light. I am the LAST of the giants, so learn well the words of my song. For when I am gone, the singing will fade, and the silence shall last long and long.
Dany did follow Tyrion's plan. She met the masters to "try" to negotiate with them. But they both knew that the Masters would do as they always did. So Dany summoned Drogon in a sneak attack, destroyed their lead ship, and kept the other ships in tact for herself. Tyrion knew this would be enough to make the Masters surrender... that, plus the death of a couple of them. lol.
Nah they were given 3 damn chances. Once when she sent her ppl to yunkai after finding out they were enslaving again, once with tyrion talking to them and again at the end
Same! The music, cinematography, & costuming is maybe my favorite of the entire series. … the last 2 seasons do also have great costuming . 😂I’ll say that
Yes, Next time, before Lyanna Mormont speaks, they will be in another dimension, and if we talk about Ramin Djawadi's new musical instrument... The seven Heavens
Fun fact: That Cavalry charge with Jon Standing alone was NOT CGI. Kit was actually standing in that field with the horses charging right past him. Boss Shot
The shot with Jon standing alone in front of Bolton’s charging army is fantastic. I love that Sansa played the Vale card. She knew that Littlefinger always had a soft spot for her and also he kind of owed her for marrying off to Ramsey.
As always, Littlefinger did what he did to further the advancement of himself. LF had an alliance with Roose but not with Ramsey who he earlier admitted he did not know. From Sansa as well as he spies presumably he finds out this season that Ramsey is sadistic and psychopathic, or in other words someone like Joffrey who he can't work with/manipulate. So as he did with Joffrey, LF concocts a plan to get rid of Ramsey and hopefully replace him with someone he believes he'll be able to control.
Sansa was unlikeable for most of the series, but her bullshit with the knights of the Vale make her one of the dumbest, most worthless, useless cunts in the whole show. I hope she does better in the books...
Ooooooh, I am the last of the giants, my people are gone from the earth. The last of the great mountain giants, who ruled all the world at my birth. Oh the smallfolk have stolen my forests, they’ve stolen my rivers and hills. And the’ve built a great wall through my valleys, and fished all the fish from my rills. In stone halls they burn their great fires, in stone halls they forge their sharp spears. Whilst I walk alone in the mountains, with no true companion but tears. They hunt me with dogs in the daylight, they hunt me with torches by night. For these men who are small can never stand tall, whilst giants still walk in the light. Oooooooh, I am the LAST of the giants, so learn well the words of my song. For when I am gone the singing will fade, and the silence shall last long and long.
I'm geeking out. I love this episode. Now we're headed into my favorite episode of the series. It's incredible because by the end, you can hardly remember what happened at the beginning. I'm so excited!!!
Couple fun facts.. -when the episode aired.. the actor who plays Rikon tweeted ‘Had a good run #shouldvezigzagged’ -the shield Jon picks up inside Winterfell has the Bear Island sigil.. proving that Lady Mormont’s 62 men made all the difference..
Actually, the Vale made all the difference. That Bear Island shield would have been under a pile of a thousand bodies, including all the Bear Island contingent, had the Vale not shown up.
Sansa knew that Ramsay would bait with Rickon that Jon would ride his horse towards his men and that Ramsay would perform a pincer moves killing Jon's Troops?
The battle was inspired on the real life Battle of Cannae where Hannibal's smaller 50,000 Carthaginian army tricked, surrounded and annihilated the much larger 86,000 Roman army. The encirclement maneuver is called a Cannae in military tactics. It has been used as recently as the Gulf War.
I dont like to give little finger any credit, but Sansa was the one who made this chess move. She knew Ramsey would have tricks and the fact that she had the vale in her back pocket was so satisfying! Her character development is one of the best of the show. Cant wait for the next episode! 👍🏻
I dont like to give sansa any credit. If it werent for Littlefinger and his simp behavior sansa would have got nothing. She should open her legs for him. Without Littlefinger they all would be dead or worse.
She unnecessarily cost Stark soldiers lives by withholding that information. If Jon would've know about those Knights from the Vale he could've planned a strategy to ambush the Boltons. But hey, that's not shady at all...
@@JimBz84 Lol. Ramsey isn't going to abandon the superior defensive position of Winterfell to go march into an ambush. He only leaves Winterfell because he thinks he has an easy victory against Jon. When they parley, Jon acts exactly like a desperately outnumbered commander because that's what he truly believes he is. He even goes full tilt for Rickon which adds to the assurance Ramsey has that he can be beaten easily. If Ramsey gets one whiff of trickery from Jon (retreating, refusing to engage, etc) he just marches back behind the walls of Winterfell and then wins be default.
- Mr. October with a Battle Scar is perfect for this "Battle" episode. As long as blood isn't spirting out of your wound with every beat of the heart, all is well. - Dany listened to Tyrion. She tried to negotiate with the masters. When that failed, she only destroyed some of their army & navy. She did not destroy the cities of the masters. - Jon Snow was Captain America with a Mormont shield in his 1 v 1 with Ramsey. This proves a Mormont was in the front lines charging into Winterfell. With only 62 warriors, Bear Island made a difference. - Sansa never told Jon that she wrote to Littlefinger to bring his army. That brings up speculation on Sansa's motives. Jon could have died. How would Jon have handled things had he known the army of the Vale was there to support them?
I always like to count the number of times Jon hits Ramsay...I believe it's 28 (or maybe 29)? And the Sansa "walk away and smile" returns...remember when Joffrey set her aside? 🎉 The Battle of the Bastards is hard to watch for the insane carnage - especially the crushing scene when Jon cannot get air, but the ending is so satisfying! Coming up...Cercei's Revenge.
Yeah, he could've even picked up a few dead bodies and smashed the Bolton forces with them, even just stamped on or booted a few of them. Great episode though, still.
Because D & D are idiots. The giant that got killed in 4x9 had a massive bow and arrow. OF course the other one in that episode had nothing, when he got killed in the tunnel. You'd think they cold fashion a simple huge club, and some wooden armor. Apparently, giants are not only shy....they are completely retarded as well. So stupid.
Haha, that was a fun watch with Mr. O freaking out with excitement and with Mrs O channeling dark Sansa for a while now, savoring all gruesome scene. Just a few notable call-back stuff: Jon’s line about whether Ramsey’s men would fight for him was Greyworm’s line to the masters’ soldiers, the shot of Jon in the sea of soldiers was a la Dany crowd surfing her peeps in the Mhysa episode, and Sansa does the same walk away and grin from when she didn’t have to marry Joffrey anymore. Also, check out the BoftB episode Game of Jones (with Leslie Jones reacting to this episode).
35:26 Dany DID take the fleet from the Masters. She only burned one ship to flex her power then killed the masters and when the guys on the other ships saw the dragons they started abandoning the ships.
Cinematic masterpiece really not to mention the always incredible score by the great Ramin Djawadi! My only criticism is cramming the battle for Meereen in at the start, both deserved to be standalone episodes. Also it was a bit silly that the Knights of The Vale were somehow able to sneak into the North and hangout for months without anyone knowing.
i think they could have easily made it make sense by showing sansa not being able to trust that littlefinger would definitely support them, and ramsey believing the vale would support him rather than making it look like they 'sneaked in'...
@@orcocan I mean it’s just not possible for a southern force to cross the Neck, even if they could Ramsay and Jon would have heard about it…Ramsay would have considered it an act of war.
I mean this whole season is just bad storytelling starting with rose death. There is no way for little finger to get them north without alerting the freys either.
One of my favorites. too bad Sansa caused the deaths of hundreds of good men by NOT telling Jon about the calvery coming. But I suppose at this point she trusts NO ONE.
Only if you don't understand the battle plan. The plan was to fake out Ramsey and make their forces appear weak. Otherwise Ramsey just stays behind the walls of Winterfell and wins by default. While sadistic, Ramsey shows he can't be baited but like any good commander he'll take an easy victory if he thinks one is available.
I remember sitting upright on the recliner leaning forward towards the tv thinking this is it we are really going to lose Jon this time .. the scene of Jon, Tormund and the giant all running together is a fave..Ramsey's ending is just perfect !! .. can't wait to see your reaction to the season finale !! hurry up haha
The comments criticizing Sansa are ridiculous. What would she say to Jon when she had no idea what Littlefinger would do. The Vale could come and support the Boltons for all Sansa knew. She has no trust for Baelish and the letter she sent was a desperate gamble. She couldn't let Jon base his battle strategy on that.
Jon only went to battle because he believed that's all the soldiers he could get, so it's now or never. They could have planned around that information she withheld. To say that they couldn't is "ridiculous".
@@JimBz84 LOL, how could they plan anything with the non-information of what Littlefinger would do. Get it through your heads that he can't be trusted. Sansa simply couldn't tell Jon anything. If she did and things went wrong she would be responsible. It's clear people just won't consider getting into Sansa's shoes here, which is low-key misogynistic.
@@JimBz84 Basic military strategy says you don't tell decoy forces that they are decoys. Jon's forces were the decoys. The Knights of the Vale were the only army that could have won that battle.
Yep all that just happened. Best season, best episode, best battle, all around Epic. Lastly, Sansa lays out the best ending to Ramsay with a smile. Thanx so much, take care, Peace
Forever angry at Sansa for hiding about the Vale. D&D really wrote the biggest nonsense in this case, it made her look awful and willing to risk her brother's and the men fighting for her to die, without planning a better approach.
Exactly, Jon only marched to battle because he believed he could not get anymore troops. To try and spin this as some brilliant strategic move by sansa is bullshit. She cost more Soldiers live than nesscary.
Lol. Ramsey would not have abandoned the superior defensive position of Winterfell for a fair fight and definitely not if he saw thousands of mounted knights coming at them. Even an idiot commander understands you don't do that. He only committed his troops outside the walls of Winterfell because he thought he had an easy victory. And it's not Sansa's plan. It's Littlefinger's. That's the whole reason they met a few episodes back - to plan out how to defeat Ramsey who very clearly is in possession of a superior position.
Arya is still a Noone , its just that she is playing "Arya Stark" for others (those who dont know her true identity)...when she left braavos after training she said to Jaqen that "A girl is Arya Stark and I am going home." She didn't say she is Arya stark, that's why Jaqen let her leave. She is just portraying Arya Stark and her list are the names to offer to many-faced god. Impressed with her with how far she came along with being a faceless man, he truly deems her as "Noone" and permits her to leave.
Sansa: "Did you ever once think that I might have some insight?"" Jon: "Your right. What should I do differently?" Sansa: "I don't know! I don't know anything about battles..." Also Sansa:: "We need a larger force!" Jon: "When will we have a larger force?" 🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗 The next day thousands die because Sansa didn't tell Jon that Middlefinger was at Moat Cailin, waiting with the Knights of the Vale and several thousand men at Arms.
I'm not sure, but I feel like it was a strategic move, was it not? Like Rob sacrificing 2000 men to win against the Lannister army. If Ramsay knew that Jon's side had more men, he'd be less cocky and plan his strategy differently. This way, Sansa outplayed the player basically. I feel like it was showcasing both what she learned from Sercei (ruthlessness and willingness to do what it takes, regardless of how brutal it is) and Little Finger (lying to Jon about it and the cunning way she and Little Finger organized the sneaky advance of the Vale army). If Jon knew beforehand that they actually have more men, he'd not have approved of this maneuver because he wouldn't want his men to suffer like this, he feels responsible for them. We wouldn't be able to do what needed to be done. But that's just how I understood the situation.
@@americanandpinay it's bAd...and it's not bad writing. Just because some characters make stupid moves/decisions/anything it doesn't mean it's bad writing. Sansa is becoming arrogant, is transforming into Cersei and this is well shown in the future seasons. Do you think all chracters should be smart and take the right decision or only the ones you like and if they don't then they ruined those characters?
@MarcoInvo okay, then it's poor execution. She wanted Winterfell. It's why she was willing to sacrifice Rickon. A boy that was 4 years old when she left. She was willing to sacrifice Jon to get revenge on Ramsey. However, none it is properly conveyed except through some exchanges and glances during the battle. Where none of them could even see each other. Yes, this is where Sansa's plot starts falling apart because there is to much assuming and showing and no storytelling.
My ADD won't allow me to look through all the comments, but I'm sure maybe someone mentioned this, if not, the Shield Jon uses on Ramsey is a Mormont shield, one of 62 men!
Well get ready cuz episode 10 is about to blow yall away…and IMO it’s even better than episode 9 which is crazy to think about but it’s truly incredible
Actually, 6/10 is my all-time FAVORITE episode! You've probably seen why. But this one is EXCELLENT, too!... BTW, Mr. October, we are a Republic, NOT a democracy - just so you know...😊
I think it's so funny that when Jon runs to his horse, wearing his sword, you can see that the sheath - with the sword in it - is made of something like rubber. It flaps all over the place showing that it's just a hilt inside the sheath, no blade. 🤣🤣🤣
Y’all should watch behind the scenes of the battle of the bastards. The filming is epic and won awards. It was one of the top filmed episode’s of all time. The graphic nature and Jon struggles to get to the top of the bodies is so epic.
Pre-battle comments 6:37 “so this is the battle of the bastards right here?” 15:20 “if this tops that fight in Meeren earlier” adding so much hype to the reaction I’m about to watch right now.
the way Sansa say that they won't be abke to get their brother back is just cold and dark. Like she already accepted that Rickon is good as dead and all she wanted is to get winterfell back and beat Ramsay...
the reason Jon charged is bc he was lured into Archer Range, those burning X's are typically 100m markers for Archers. Jon rushed to undercut the Volley.
As much as I love this episode, the writing, logistics and contrived decisions were glaring. I loathed the Jon and Sansa disconnect they forced this season. He may be battle tested but he was no tactician and Sansa, while smart, withheld forces that cost thousands of northern lives. Had she played LF for the Vale, they would have the all the big northern houses pledged to them instead of just freefolk being the turn off. The sneak attack excuse does not work because scouts stopped existing seasons ago so that was how this sweeping save was remotely possible. Brienne got wasted on the silly Blackfish excuse in person per Sansa in case Ramsey intercepts a raven. Then she sends a raven that House Mormont thankfully had on hand for Moat Caitlin (in the north so much more easily intercepted over Riverrun's risk). Epic battle but so many flaws too. At Hardhome, the giant had a tree trunk - recall the battle of the wall with the archer? Oh well! The massive mounds of dead bodies were created in no time, and I appreciated that they tried using historical battles from multiple time periods hundreds of years apart but it didn't make sense for the numbers or the houses who allowed that many deaths would lost allegiance mid battle. Ramsey's face should have been unrecognizable but Sansa repaying the kindness that bastard granted her made us all happy! And they lost the last giant ever to remove any potential for a siege! But hey, team Stark/Snow/Freefolk/Mormont made it across the finish line so I LOVE IT! It is a shame Rickon was never properly mourned or mentioned again...the actor didn't even have a line of dialog either since his return.
I'm surprised how few people make the comment about 'why didn't he just shoot Jon' because I think of that everytime I see that scene. Still Fn awesome. Jon and Sansa character development is top notch sht.
@@TheOctobersReact I understand as well... I'm half Irish and have that translucent bluish Irish skin. It doesn't get much whiter than that... when I go to the beach, the glare off my legs blinds people! 😜
My issue is why didn’t Jon think of the Vale? He said there are no more potential armies. Yet, Robyn is his cousin. We saw the old Maester drilled in the kids heads all the families and Ned and John Aryn were extremely close. So, Jon had to know of the Vale. Now I could have bought into Jon at least bringing the Vale up and someone saying Robyn is controlled now by Littlefinger so they won’t help. But, Jon should have at least brought the Vale up as an option.
SweetRobin & Jon are not related. Beyond that, I’m thinking this is where Jon’s bastardy comes into play. As Ned’s son, all the northern armies will recognize him as being of Winterfell and possibly fight for him. Southern armies don’t know Jon Snow. Why would they even consider fighting for him? Or fighting any northern concern
The guy you didn’t recognize fighting on Ramsay side saying who holds the north. Smalljon umber he gave Ramsay Rickon and refused to kneel. His father was the one that declared Robb king of the north.
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While people chiming in with best episodes, S7E4 and S8E3 are my favs of the rest. Despite some overall disappointment with S8 there is some really fun stuff in there.
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