Battle of the bend ep.1- 805lb/365kg on a deadlift bar vs Stiff bar (conventional) 

This man started talking to us while holding 700lbs

*"You're not getting much out of a deadlift bar lifting under 600lbs."* Cool, won't have to worry about that one.

Can we get the comparison with 950 on each bar? Just so your average day to day viewer can better relate

500lbs is about the average range... that kinda hurt my feelings man

who pulls 600, 700, and 800 twice to demo bar whip....

"Some people are dying to lift 500lbs and this guy is rowing it for reps" - i remember this quote coming from Mark Bell when you were over at his gym showing them your accessory exercises......as always good video and knowledge

3:48 500 lb average deadlift Dude have you stepped into a commercial gym hehe

Cailer the type of dude to chalk up and use ammonia before he goes on a date.

wow, today i learned that I have the exact same shaft length as an eleiko bar

Hilarious how you have to explain “this is my video, if you want to share a different opinion go make your own video” lmao!

Cailer is not only a powerlifter but he is also a rapper. He droppin bars on us all day, deadlift bars, eleiko bars. (waiting on the cailer rap album)

why am i watching this when i can only deadlift 365 lmao

I enjoyed this. Can see a huge difference in the higher weight. And good endurance to you Dr. DEADLIFT

As an older (58) , smaller lifter (5'8", 170 lbs) I train with a stiff bar. At a meet, the deadlift bar is much easier for me to hold as the 1.5-2.0 mm makes a big grip difference. I really notice the flex in the bar over 315 and at 500 it "feels" easier than the stiff bar. Thank you for all your great videos!!

Guys. Just to clarify..This was strictly a comparison between the deadlift bar with calibrated plates vs a stiff bar with gym plates for a conventional deadlift only. Nothing else! I mention this in the video!

The Ohio deadlift bar is also the stiffest deadlift bar of deadlift bars. Awesome video!

So much quality content lately :')

You and SsjBob inspired me to surpass what I thought was possible for myself. My original goal when I started out was 315. I didn't think my small frame and "weak genetics" would allow me to do much more than that. It seemed surreal, and nearly out of my potential. Thanks to you guys I don't let my 'weak genetics' hold me back anymore. Did 385Ibs on deadlift and 405 is on the horizon. When I hit 500Ibs I'll make a video to show ya! Any other small guys out there, just keep going. You will be surprised how far you can actually go.

I remember my first powerlifting meet. My max deadlift at home that I felt like I could hit any day of the week was 405 with my super thick, super stiff budget barbell so I made that my opener. Comp used an ohio deadlift bar and 405 felt like 350. My third attempt was successful with 455 and I still felt like I had lots in the tank and regretted not going heavier.

Homie looks waaayy too slender to pull 700+. That's crazy, mad respect.

Honestly, this is awesome. People love to argue with me that stiffy feels harder than a deadlift bar when I say they feel pretty much the same where I'm pulling now in the mid-upper six hundreds. The width of the bar with hook grip I think really is the most compelling difference I've heard from smaller people, since they sometimes can't grab a stiff bar securely but can a deadlift bar.

Dr D, please write me prescription for sick shoulder gains.

Great vid! Another cool idea would be to try to find the way to get the most whip possible. Like bumpers with 100s on the outside.

Next up elephant bar video lol

I feel a difference between the two for anything after 4 plates.

Jason Blaha will probably make a 10 minute video talking about this

Great video as always. Hope seeing you pull 1000 lbs sumo and 900 conventional one day.

If 500 lbs range is average, then I am wayyyyy behind lol. Looks like I have back day for the next few years

Pulling the lifetime Goal of many Deadlifter's just for a demonstration purpose tells how savage he is. Really an inspiration.

4:45 Is that mixed grip? Cailer, I’m shook.

Thank you Doctor!

He said average weight is 500! Lol what gym do you go to ? I can barely do 300 lol

I disagree Cailer, I have a lot of trouble deadlifting with a stiff bar, with a deadlift bar and kilo plates I get an easy 50lbs. Just feels so much easier off the floor which is where I’m weak. I pull around 500 on a stiff bar with gym plates and 550 with a Texas dl bar and kilos. I honestly don’t know if it would be more if I was stronger and the bar whipped more, but for my body and leverages it helps a lot even with around 450-500

Amazing strength Cailer, messing about with 800lbs, like it is warm up 😀👍

This was darned impressive lifting. Just looking at him, you'd never guess he could deadlift 600 much less 800. Clearly he is a superb athlete.

stiffbar is tougher wrt to dl bar as it lacks the whip. I have experienced a 10kg difference

500lb average after sarmageddon happened in the USA.

I'm assuming the deadlift bar is more useful for sumo? Conventional pullers usually struggle with lockout, the lockout is still technically the same with a deadlift bar except you get more speed at the start to make the lockout easier. For sumo it's mostly about getting the weight off the ground so the more efficient start position with the deadlift bar should be more helpful compared to conventional where all you get is a little more speed to lock out. Also closer hand position from sumo will make it bend more.

Dr. Deadlift did it so we dont have to! Thank you for your sacrifice sir'

It's great content, and it's also the best rant I've seen in a long while haha

Thanks, as I can barely lift 400 lbs I have nothing to worry about.

Bro your form is perfect. Hell yeah! Freakn beast mode.

Imagine handshaking this mans HE WOULD DESTROY YOUR HANDS

dude, you're the man. thanks for this awesome video.

Maybe there's a gym that will let you set up each bar with each set of plates. Four bars total! That'll be nice and exhausting....

If you do a similar video you could do the work outs on separate days for (approximately) equal rest and less clean up

8:16 When lifting session is over and i cant stop thinking about eating when i get home.

My conclusion from the video is; At 800 lbs Deadlift bar = +25 lbs, Blasting Meshuggah during the lift = + 50 lbs. Was gonna invest in dealift bar but instead I'll just blast Meshuggah

Thanks for doing this. Very interesting. I’d been wondering.

the stiff bar makes my back a lot more sore and makes the lift almost painful, and I find its much more difficult to get speed of the floor, the deadlift bar really makes my back feel really good during and after 600+ lifts, in short love the powerbar, hate the stiff bar. Great video BTW, the only video on internet that adresses this issue.

Greatly appreciated. Tough work bro but you answered a question I’m sure a lot of us have had

Interesting comparisson. I'll bet a lot of lifters have wondered about this.

I think the most accurate way to represent the bar bend would to strap it to a wench with a scale using 2 straps to emulate hand placement. measure the center of the bar from the floor (11 at rest") and note how much distance the bar travels before the weight leaves the ground as well as noting the weight-in-hand at the various heights of bar travel.

Where can I find that sick color-changing shirt?

BEAST! Great video!

I really enjoyed this video and loved how you did the comparison on the same day and stuff

The knurling on the Eleiko bar is crazy. How did that feel with a hook grip?

Highly highly appreciated, and intense to watch! Very informative and science is always worth the extra clean up ;)

Cailer, every time I watch a new video of you, you look more and more like an ever-growing wardrobe. Keep it up, and I wish to see that 400KG deadlift at a competition in the future. Love from Argentina.

I did this exact same thing for my physics final not even a week ago 😂

This guy deserve more subscription

5:10 if you listen carefully you can hear the plates lift off the ground one at at time thats a noticeable difference

I think for sumo, when you can go wider on a deadlift bar than stiff (max width), the differences gonna be a lot larger than in conventional.

My max deadlift right now on a Texas deadlift bar is 40 lbs heavier than my max on the stiff bar and I’m in the 500s

Cailer, one really cool comparison would be calibrated plates on the elieko (IPF style) with conventional vs bumpers ( or big pound plates) on the DL bar with sumo. Since your strength on the two variations being so close it would be interesting to see how big of a difference these variables can make. Obviously, none of this matters as long as it's consistent in the same comp imo.

This guy should play Wolverine after Hugh Jackman

I had never used deadlift bar till today..no where near 600ibs and it made a huge difference I normally get 315 for 4 or 5 reps on stiff bar, today on deadlift bar I got 315 for 10 reps no problem and 365 for 3 reps never done that b4

the bend can be calculated analitically pretty easily if you know the material used and the geometries

The difference I feel is the initial shock from no bend and all the weight. Even if there isn’t much bend it still takes the “shock” out of the initial pull and mentally you don’t feel all the weight at once. Plus the bend on regular gym plates pulls them off the ground one by one compared to a stiff bar. 99% of my lifts are on a stiff bar but it’s much easier for me to do the same weight on a deadlift bar.

Do you think the bar would make more of a difference for lifters who pull the slack out more than you do? A guy like you lifts super explosive while someone like Belkin pulls the slack to a point he’s almost upright before starting the lift. Do you think his carryover from a stiff bar to DL bar would be greater than yours?

In theory, the only difference between lifting with a stiff bar and a DL bar is that with the DL bar you won't be lifting the full weight until you're already in a more advanced transition. It gets gradually heavier until all the plates are off the ground. While with a stiff bar you get the full weight from the initial pull. Once the plates are off the ground it should be irrelevant which bar yo use. So according to my math, a stiff bar is better for building strength as it requires you to lift heavier weights from the beginning, while the DL bar might allow you to do heavier pulls by cheating the weights a little bit, it also seems to reduce the risk of injuries.

According to Thor, Martins, and Shaw, the whip makes the lift much harder once you reach the 1050lb limit. With the elephant bar, they say the whip momentum pulls you back down half way through the lift.

Savage beast ! Plz do 1000 lb pull +

Thanks for this content! This is a great comparison

Great video! I always wondered what difference it made. Thank you 😊

Cailer your shoulders r unreal! Great video!

I had really been wondering about this! amazing video dude keep it up!

Cailer, a great video man! I like the topic. I don't actually think I've seen a video like this over the bend. At least, not with that much weight in the same workout by the same guy. Keep it up my friend!

Do an effort coparison video. Ex. 500 vs 600 effort or 500 vs 700 effort. Just to get a perspective for my road to 6 plates and such.

I just liked it for 2 reasons, great video and for loading and the removal of all those plates lol.

I do appreciate you for doing this video

dude forgot to put on his superhero mask while using his super strength.

you have do comparison with your max on each bar...to make exact statement :)

thank you

Ngl, you look like Baker Mayfield but strong asf

I wanna see your shoulder workout.

Great comparison, thank you sir 🙌🏽

its so weird to see so many people being offended by cailer saying 500 lb deadlift, if you really want the number put in the work jesus

Thanks for this breakdown. I appreciate it

Impressive deadlift mate

You should go in one day, do the 700-800 deadlift with comp plates on a stiff bar, then another day do it on the deadlift bar, that way you can have an effective training day and still compare the two scenarios with identical load and plates used

How do I get my numbers up, I'm 15 years old ,76kg and I deadlift 180kg which I think is 405 pound, help please

I feel a difference on the deadlift bar even with 315 and definitely with 405. The weight is to light for you to feel a difference yourself.

I’ve noticed that you will get a lot more out of a deadlift bar than a stiff bar if it’s what you primarily train with. If you do a good mix or use a stiff bar for most of your training it will be less of a gap

Damn!! Can't believe this is the first time I'm watching this one!

I think that your style of deadlifting, more specifically the way you pull the weight off the floor is more suited for a stiff bar switch is why I think you don't notice the help that a deadlift bar can provide

Anyone else feel a Texas deadlift bar is whippy and gives more than the rogue

The bend of the bar makes it a bit easier to get the bar of the floor. Conventional lifting athletes, who struggle on the first 1/3 of the whole movement benefit from it, because they get the momentum of the floor and can finish with back strength

i love every video cailer make

I feel that it's just mainly a comfort thing, between the thickness and the slight length difference in the bar... I am only in the 500 range but I can definitely feel like using a good dead lift bar helps out a good amount