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BATTLE OF THE BRUSHLESS!!! (Makita vs Milwuakee) 

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@israelescamilla6527
@israelescamilla6527 2 года назад
Sep. 2021 I just bought the M18 MILWAUKEE 2802 and comparing it with another that I have the Brushless 1/2 Makita 18v Dhp485sye, the MILWAUKEE 2802 is louder, the motor whistles, it heats up more, the battery does not fit at all, the charger seems iron but as a positive point It has a better Chuck, it feels powerful, 5-year warranty, it looks well manufactured. Between MILWAUKEE and Makita the power seems similar, at the moment I prefer the makita since the motor is quieter, the motor and charger hardly get hot, time will tell if the heating in the MILWAUKEE is a problem or not. It has cost me USD$185, winning the makita for USD$12 dollars less. I hope my comments contribute something positive to your purchases.
@northcountryoutlaw9704
@northcountryoutlaw9704 5 месяцев назад
My makita 18v chargers get hot while charging
@danielbreckler9133
@danielbreckler9133 3 года назад
I am a professional carpenter with over 25 year experience. One thing that I have learned the hard way is always tighten your bits by hand. Do not use the motor. It saves the chuck. We all want to use the motor for speed and convenience, but that can be damaging.
@sw86241996
@sw86241996 3 года назад
Totally agree...
@Taylormade2350
@Taylormade2350 3 года назад
Use the motor to snug the chuck then tighten by hand.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I do tighten them by hand. use the motor to get the clamps with the bit then tighten the rest by hand
@gilbertopadilla3611
@gilbertopadilla3611 3 года назад
I didn't know that could damage the chuck. Great tip.
@jessepicken1662
@jessepicken1662 3 года назад
One thing iv learned with Makita is to NOT turn it back one Klick you actually end up unlocking the Chuck
@fro9442
@fro9442 2 года назад
You’re losing the bit on the makita when you “lock it” that’s actually unlocking which is causing the chuck to spin loose like it is on you.
@goonbuggy1135
@goonbuggy1135 11 месяцев назад
Yeah but guy, Im a dumbarse american, that dont know much about, well drills, much of anything.
@thefifthhorseman8886
@thefifthhorseman8886 3 года назад
All i want know if hes identified what Makita's Natural smell is. .... i cant get enough of these tool war videos.
@josephj6521
@josephj6521 2 года назад
Great tests! I bought the Makita mostly due to price and as a DIYer, don’t always need the greatest speed. Milwaukee tools are definitely great trades tools worth buying. 👍
@howiefeltersnatch2596
@howiefeltersnatch2596 3 года назад
It's a tough call, I think I'll always lean towards makita because I love the way they sound and the styling. I will say when metal working, i always grab my milwaukee set, when wood working I grab my makita set.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
these 2 are evenly matched but I think I did mess up the makita Chuck and io thank you for viewing Darkone
@trentoncorbet1
@trentoncorbet1 2 года назад
I'd definitely go makita.. actually switched from Milwaukee to makita
@roberttran4125
@roberttran4125 3 года назад
If you drive a bolt into the grain right next to a bolt you just drove, it seems to me (maybe I'm wrong), that the wood would be packed tighter from the adjacent bolt previously driven; which, could possibly affect times.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I do this all the time and the more powerful motor always prevails if It drives it in next to a hole.
@scottl7644
@scottl7644 3 года назад
Agree!!
@khalsida300
@khalsida300 2 года назад
I wanted to tell him that year ago but I didn't know how to express it in english
@mrclive5
@mrclive5 3 года назад
You drop bits because you're not seating the jaws of the chuck on the flat sides of the bits and holders, don't squeeze the trigger to lock bits, do it manually watching closely to line up the jaws to the flat sides of whatever you're using. This doesn't matter for round shafts, go ahead and use the trigger.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I broke the chuck and I know how to set it bits lol
@jptrow
@jptrow 2 года назад
I agree, he didnt pay attention putting in bit. Also a washer would have been a good idea. Not paying attention to chuck still turning as well. I could go on but...
@PushaDee
@PushaDee 2 года назад
Apparently you don't. It may look cool and save some time spinning the bit in but it's bad practice in more ways than one.
@PushaDee
@PushaDee 2 года назад
@Kevin Bradley Harmoning Ya that's the best way to do it. Last few turns are by hand so you can line it up perfectly.
@bugpack6
@bugpack6 2 года назад
The Milwaukee sounds like a jet engine in reverse. Awesome
@-EVASSIVE
@-EVASSIVE 3 года назад
I have both actually, started with all Makita tools and switched to Milwaukee just because I wanted to. Makita is a great brand but I haven't regretted the switch yet. Also, the chuck on my Makita was clicking and messing up just like it was in this video until I adjusted the screw inside the chuck. Afterwards the chuck never acted funny again, no clicking when tightening or coming loose during operation. Anyway, nice video. Liked and subbed 🤙
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
cant go wrong with Milwaukee now. I thank you for viewing Jamey
@thebasssist
@thebasssist 2 года назад
How did you adjust the screw inside? You just tightened it or what?
@jonathangarzon2798
@jonathangarzon2798 2 года назад
Idk we have 4 Milwaukee drills in our shop. Two are dead, one drops round drill bits intermittently, and the one that "works" is the old brushed one with no guts. The other three aren't even 3yrs old.
@drakesairguns7848
@drakesairguns7848 3 года назад
dude hand drills have come soooooo far from where they started. just remember a time when you would get one 1/2 inch hole done and boom the battery was dead and basically on fire and having a corded drill was almost required for any project out from home owner work like hanging a picture
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
they are extremely powerful now. I thank you for viewing Drake
@bwselectronic
@bwselectronic 3 года назад
Doesn't matter what you use as long as the batteries are equal. If you have to use a higher power battery to beat the other drill, then the one with the extra power is inferior.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I try to keep it as even as I can. some brands don't have the same AH batteries
@joemcco500
@joemcco500 2 года назад
How does that make any sense? That's like two people arm wrestling but the stronger person has to starve themself so that they're equal to each other. It would be a different matter if you had to go to aftermarket parts to get the extra power but as long as it's a factory battery, you should use the strongest to compare which one is the strongest.
@TinkerWithTools
@TinkerWithTools Год назад
Old one but a good one. Nice work man!
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools Год назад
I thank you Tinker :) this fall I plan on doing tool tests again. This is the first summer I actually got to enjoy summer and not have to work mandatory overtime at work
@TinkerWithTools
@TinkerWithTools Год назад
@@ManCaverTools Good for you man! I know the feeling of work being crazy. Glad you got to enjoy summer!
@AntonioPerez-hv1lp
@AntonioPerez-hv1lp Год назад
I’m trying to find makita 40v but I couldn’t! Sells so fast! It’s king on construction field!great video! CONGRATS!😐
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools Год назад
I do need to get the 40v Makita line
@georgedavall9449
@georgedavall9449 3 года назад
As I said, I own that Model of Makita. This was one of your better ‘Versus’ videos. Having said that, and as Eryn Brady said, regarding the chuck, the one on your drill didn’t ‘sound’ right, or act right? And once a Chuck has slipped twice or more under that pressure, the jaws will lose some ability to hold onto the bit. Love your channel and videos dude, but please try fully tightening the chuck, and then leave it. Don’t turn it back a click! Trust me! I’m surprised the Gen 3 Milwaukee didn’t do better. It is a powerful drill. I tried it but just don’t care for it. And the ‘smell’ you mention Dave, I believe is a characteristic of that drill. Mine always has a slight warm oil smell? Hard to describe. I would get Makita to warranty that chuck. Their repair facility in NJ does a great job. Just FYI. Thanks
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I thank you for your reply. I just think I need to put a new chuck on it. and I think the smell is the natural smell from the makita motor. and I thank you for viewing George
@martylucas8557
@martylucas8557 3 года назад
Man Caver Tools, Dave I just saw George’s comment directed towards the chuck. Why are you being so obstinate regarding tightening the chuck correctly? You are the first person I’ve seen rotate the chuck counterclockwise after fully tightening it clockwise. You may have inadvertently damaged the Makita Drill’s chuck jaws by running it hard without having it fully locked into place. Tighten the chuck fully clockwise until you hear the ratcheting sound, then continue to turn clockwise until you can’t turn it any more! Don’t turn counterclockwise after fully tightening!!
@chriskarsseboom2200
@chriskarsseboom2200 3 года назад
I own both drills. The Milwaukee is better. Nobody uses the non high output batteries anymore. He needs to redo the test with even a smaller high output battery.
@keithblair9964
@keithblair9964 3 года назад
He was sniffing that drill , like a electrician in a porta potty
@sticksandstuns
@sticksandstuns 2 года назад
just picked up the same model from my local home depot tool rental lol only went out twice and it came with 2 5amp and a nice charger. paid 100 bucks with a hard case the chuck gave you a hard time but coming from milwakee I have to say I'm impressed. yeah it might be a sec or 2 faster or slower but man it was 20 degrees cooler than the milwakee. in my opinion that's called efficiency. a nice cool motor will last alot longer!
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 2 года назад
I agree with you on that, that is why temperatures are important as well
@robbycastillo7862
@robbycastillo7862 2 года назад
Love these test. Hard to find such reviews where stress and smell test is part of the deal.
@alexjohnsonjustme
@alexjohnsonjustme 2 года назад
Ive been using drills for years and never had the chuck drop bits I think clicking back is what was causing the problem
@-zerocool-
@-zerocool- 2 года назад
My dad does the same, gotta make sure the drill is clamping the bit properly or itll just spin, kinda obvious really.
@sw86241996
@sw86241996 3 года назад
Thanks for the review, I own Makita and Bosch both line of power tools right now, used to own Bosch and Milwaukee but after my Gen2 impact driver was died then swap to Makita line. Personally the I saw the Makita chuck died with another IG users and same as Milwaukee, but I never had any issue with Bosch chuck for past 5 years time, I know for the Bosch drill speed may behind Makita and Milwaukee, but it still good for my trade with Bosch. I just love the feeling for Makita and does job so well. For the weight distribute of Milwaukee is not suit for me, it seems like Milwaukee put lot of weight in the front and battery. This Makita drill was over 6 years old did good job even compare with the latest Milwaukee drill.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I do think it is time for Makita to upgrade this tool
@sw86241996
@sw86241996 3 года назад
@@ManCaverTools however makita 40v is released don't know what strategy in the future of the company. Probably makita will get ride of 18v x 2 system and keep 18v and 40v both line together?
@EricB501
@EricB501 3 года назад
I would like to see a video on the chucks and their locking mechanisms and bring some documentation to back it up since it seems to be a highly contentious topic.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
not all brands have that extra locking feature on the chuck. but ill look into it more deeply
@Polydeukes68
@Polydeukes68 2 года назад
@@ManCaverTools Makita says: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iWa94kDON2Q.html
@tvmagicaustralia
@tvmagicaustralia 2 года назад
clearly Milwaukee winning here. It has faster times on most of the tests. If this was multiplied by multiple screws and per hour and per day you're using it then you can decide which one is going to give you the best performance over the long haul. It took all but 20min to break a chuck on the makita whether or not he was loading the bits in correctly or not.
@christopherenoch4230
@christopherenoch4230 3 года назад
Why do you tighten the Makita chuck, then back out off a click or two? Your loosening it! I just went through my XPH07 manual, and you only tighten it. Try the test again without loosening the Makita Chuck everytime... No wonder you were stripping the bit.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I will and I thank you Christopher
@chriscleave2173
@chriscleave2173 3 года назад
cdn.makitatools.com/apps/cms/doc/prod/XPH/a6190ac1-a92b-4296-9216-c612e6b6d385_XPH07Z_IM.pdf
@kenshirogenjuro873
@kenshirogenjuro873 3 года назад
Yup exactly. Someone decided to circulate this myth about untightening by one to “lock” it and it’s BS.
@gabrielparker4119
@gabrielparker4119 3 года назад
Yeah that’s what’s stripping the bit
@chrispoole9463
@chrispoole9463 3 года назад
@@kenshirogenjuro873 probably a Milwaukee rep started that BS 🤣
@R1BLACKRAVEN
@R1BLACKRAVEN 2 года назад
If it stops, it fails. Watch the video close. He is biding the paddle bit by pushing it forward, or you don't know how to keep a drill straight one, take your pic? He also placed the Milwaukee paddle bit, next to a hole, where the Milwaukee did not have to cut through part of the side. Do you reckon that matters at all? Go to the cement test. He cleans the dust out of the Milwaukee at 8 sec, 18 sec, 26 sec, 33 sec, 38 sec, the reason why, if anyone has ever drilled concrete, then you know you have to dump the dust out, or it will cut your drilling power down to hardly nothing. He dumps the makita after 32 sec, after it sits there and does nothing, while the whole time is losing cutting power is lost, because he does not dump the dust at all. Only when it comes to a stand still, does he dump it. Then, he is steadily pushing the drill forward. Look at the concrete hole. He push the drill bit forward so much, that the hole is wobbled out. He was smart enough not to wipe the dust off the block, like he did the board, so you couldent see just how much of a wobbled out hole he made, because the bit was not kept straight. Even though he did not wipe the block, you can still see how bad the hole is wobbled out. I don't like dishonest reviewers like you. What did you expect, that Milwaukee would see this and send you some free crap? Now, you know what drills I own? I own a Milwaukee 18v hammer drill, such as the one you are using, and the 18v 3/4 Milwaukee impact wrench, that I use for lug nuts and lag bolts. I don't even own a Makita drill. I just hate dishonest reviewers. If you want to compare apples to apples. Try comparing the Milwaukee 1200 in. lbs of torque, to the makita 1,250 in.lbs of Torque. Not 1200 verses 1025. That's like a car that can do 200mph verses one that can do 150, and say. Hmm, I wonder which one will win.
@jantsbenzproaudio
@jantsbenzproaudio 3 года назад
I prefer this channel for reviews on hammer drills, but on impact wrench/driver I preder "torque test channel" he has a dyno for accurately measuring torque.... Just sharing😊
@Skwish6952
@Skwish6952 3 года назад
Where are you getting that clicking the chuck back one click locks the chuck? I have that drill and a lower line drill driver and no where in either instruction manual does it say to do that.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
it doesn't do it for all drills. the good drill have an extra locking feature on them
@tylersmith7415
@tylersmith7415 3 года назад
That’s the chuck breaking my man. Both are nice hammer drills. I personally don’t own either, but want the gen 3 Milwaukee
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I agree with you on that. the chuck wasn't able to take the tension of the lags
@shane.t.188
@shane.t.188 3 года назад
Get ur makita chuck serviced mine never does that and it easily equals the Gen 3 on that concrete test ive used the same size bit clear the holes more..like the video 📹 👌
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I plan too and thank No one
@martylucas8557
@martylucas8557 3 года назад
no one special, it will not! The Milwaukee Gen 3 Fuel Hammer Drill is more powerful and has more torque than the Makita drill, serviced or not. lol!
@Droneguy-be1fy
@Droneguy-be1fy 2 года назад
Makita always bosses the other brands. Glad I’m heavily invested in their 18v platform
@jbehitech
@jbehitech 2 года назад
I found that Makita battery electronic protection circuit its well design to prevent damage. and battery to battery not a equal.
@brianbraga9676
@brianbraga9676 2 года назад
I got that Makita Hammer Drill and it is an awesome tool. Had it for about 2 years and no problems for me at all. By the way GREAT VIDEO!! #MANCAVERTOOLS
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 2 года назад
I thank you very much Brian
@georgedavall9449
@georgedavall9449 3 года назад
It seems to be a point of contention regarding the chuck locking features of drills. I have to concur with Joshua Helms, and I have tried the ‘turning the chick back one click, ‘ and it almost always leads to loss of bits. A lot of modern drills seem to have poor QC with regards to keyless chucks. Milwaukee is sometimes poor, and DeWalt is ‘ famous’ for wobbly chucks, and the horrendous braking upon release of the trigger. I have noticed DeWalt seems to have tried to improve on this in recent drills, but still hit and miss. I own this Model of Makita, and it is one of the better chucks out there. It boils down to the user checking the tightness of the Chuck after every few holes drilled, or fasteners run, etc.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I thank you for your feedback George. the tension I put on the these chucks with the hardcore tasks maybe to much for the chucks. normally a impact driver would be used for those lags.
@miguelledezma1394
@miguelledezma1394 3 года назад
Dewalt has the best drills in the market tho
@chriscleave2173
@chriscleave2173 3 года назад
@@miguelledezma1394 in your opinion. Top 3 in order for me goes teal, red, yellow.
@miguelledezma1394
@miguelledezma1394 3 года назад
@@chriscleave2173 its not an opinion idiot. Its been tested and the results are there. Dewalt makes the best drill . Grinders. And saws (cordless! Also the sander and multitool is best on cordless market. Milwaukee has the best impact driver. Wrenches. Plumbing tools. Makita is just good on corded
@chriscleave2173
@chriscleave2173 3 года назад
@@miguelledezma1394 idiot
@christiansantos8904
@christiansantos8904 3 года назад
Remember......the Makita is AT LEAST 5 years older than the Milwaukee.....5byears older technology, electronics.....The Milwaukee is already 2 years old.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
Yes it is. I think it is time for them to upgrade
@user-tu7rr1zg4b
@user-tu7rr1zg4b 3 года назад
Is that the latest model? Still thinking of buying makita still choosing
@zacclarke8652
@zacclarke8652 3 года назад
@@user-tu7rr1zg4b yes it is however theyve got a new drill coming out soon hope this helps
@jaival_rhaine
@jaival_rhaine 3 года назад
The milwaukee 2704 is 6 years old but is much poweful than the latest milwaukee 2804 when it comes to concrete. The 2804 only have the torque but not the hammering power due to its reduce size
@suzesiviter6083
@suzesiviter6083 2 года назад
Build quality are equally excellent, same plastics, great designs, but Milwaukee has the edge in motor and battery design, however, Milwaukee tend to use fragile ribbon/small cables inside, the Makitas have solid wiring. There is very little to go wrong with Makitas, just takes the edge in Robustness I would say, so power or Longevity?
@jonathangarzon2798
@jonathangarzon2798 2 года назад
But what's actually a better design, the F1 race motor that needs to be rebuilt after every race, or the diesel that clears a Million miles before it's first. Our shop has 4 Milwaukee drills, two run, one is an old brushed design that has no guts and the other let's bits go randomly while you're drilling
@suzesiviter6083
@suzesiviter6083 2 года назад
@@jonathangarzon2798 I have had hundreds of these tools apart, Milwaukee and Makita only have slight quality variations, you get a FUEL and you can bet its going to last a long time, don't touch the none-fuel however. Get Fuel and you will wont go far wrong, it might even last longer than most Makitas.
@jonathangarzon2798
@jonathangarzon2798 2 года назад
@@suzesiviter6083 Im not sure what you do for a living but Im a welder/fabricator so tools that might last a moderate amount of time in a regular construction site just don't make it. Drilling through metal takes a higher toll on tools and the metal particulates in the air, and constant high frequency EMF shorten lifespan of any electronics. The only tools that I can say have proper longevity are the recip saw and bandsaw from Milwaukee. And quality is definitely not close. The battery engagement alone is slop on Milwaukee (though not as bad as DeWalt)
@suzesiviter6083
@suzesiviter6083 2 года назад
@@jonathangarzon2798 A lot of people complain about battery slop yet few have had any real battery connection problems,, have you? they use the same knife contacts as Makita. Are you using fuel versions? Check out Ave channel with tear downs, I am not convinced Makita is better quality and if I were doing drilling all day, I would be buying an Hilti not one of these class of drills. As for metal dust, Milwaukee fuels are fully sealed electronics, potted, you could even throw one of these in a bucket of water or oil and they would still work, plus the gears are usually the properly machined parts not the sintered variety in the places that matter.
@jonathangarzon2798
@jonathangarzon2798 2 года назад
@@suzesiviter6083 yeah we have two Milwaukee batteries that have to be taken out and re seated during drilling due to bad contacts and since they aren't corroded it's gotta be a mechanical issue. Battery slop transfers undue torsion on the contacts shortening life. This is the problem with brand fanboys though never can admit anything is wrong until they do, and then it's "good enough". Fuck brands I get the tool grade according to use, and tool according to best quality.
@adrianchh5259
@adrianchh5259 Год назад
excellent 👌
@darkshinobi07
@darkshinobi07 3 года назад
Wow just really suprised those hammer drills drove in that 10 inch lag really impressive
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I thought it was crazy as well
@maxjordan2625
@maxjordan2625 2 года назад
I wanna see those impacts in the back organized like a rainbow or something 😂
@Bonez88-22
@Bonez88-22 3 года назад
Hi love the videos, the makita was closer to the milwaukee than i thought it would be! Just a wee point to add about the makita on the irwin wood bit test, if you hold the trigger in any amount even just the slightest bit and the chuck cant turn then it seems to have a function that turns off the power to the drill! The trigger needs to be released and pressed again, Im thinking its a saftey feature so that it wont burn out the motor as is not turning! Id say the extra torque on the gen3 is what kept it going! I’ve used both drills and i find the milwaukee feels heavier while using but is definitely stronger! Wondering when makita are gonna upgrade their hammer drill/driver! Also i had never heard of turning the chuck back one click before, i always just tighten it up and it has never loosened! If you had time to do a quick test off camera by tightening it up full and maybe repeat the concrete test just to see if it does any better, it was agonising to watch it keep falling out of the drill!! If its still doing it get on that warranty! Very good video all the same and sure it made for a good comment section! Keep up the good work!!
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
Makita really needs to work on this chuck big time. just like Milwuakee needs to work on the collit for their fuel impact driver.
@leukste4
@leukste4 2 года назад
I had a lot of makita,s ,now have 484 and 486 but the Chuck is always a problem I bought an more expensive Chuck for the 484. Sometimes when they get hot the drill or bit get stuck in it and you need a lot of straight to get them out and it never sounds good when you do that It sounds that you break something but it never happens.
@alpharemoval2046
@alpharemoval2046 3 года назад
Milwaukee is where its at.💪🏾💎
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
Yes sir and I thank you for viewing Alpha
@waterloo123100
@waterloo123100 3 года назад
Nah I switched from Milwaukee to Makita and never looking back
@johngardeajr.1425
@johngardeajr.1425 2 года назад
@@waterloo123100 Your crazy bro
@waterloo123100
@waterloo123100 2 года назад
@@johngardeajr.1425 Not as crazy as the Milwaukee fanboy train
@user-pb1qo9ke1q
@user-pb1qo9ke1q 6 месяцев назад
Team MILWAUKEE!!!!!!!
@kdc300z
@kdc300z 3 года назад
Why the hell do people all of a sudden think 1 click back is the proper way. This is COMPLETELY FALSE. “I’m having problems with this chuck...” yea, no shit. Don’t believe everything you read.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
lol, have you tired it? doesn't work for all tool brands
@kdc300z
@kdc300z 3 года назад
@@ManCaverTools you’ve been trolled. Big time.
@riba2233
@riba2233 2 года назад
How, makita even has official video showcasing that feature
@seadrifter8975
@seadrifter8975 3 года назад
Two great brands not sure about US prices but Milwaukee can be expensive here in Europe. Makita are so reliable though 1-2 best overall powertool brands.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
im sorry that tools cost more over there and I thank you for viewing West
@RevolutStockTrading
@RevolutStockTrading 3 года назад
So dont really matter at all, both very good, and very good even for professional users.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
they are awesome hammer drill but it all depends on what battery platform people want to get into
@RevolutStockTrading
@RevolutStockTrading 3 года назад
@@ManCaverTools already have 10.8v makitas ( wish they had more tools on that platform) and 18v milwaukees , never had anything like it, only beaten by Hilti big plugged in tools.. did a 130mm hole, 400mm deep in reinforced concrete just with the18v Milwaukee... took quite a few hours, and it was burning hot, and think 5 or 6 battery changes... but it did it ;)
@bret_Lambky
@bret_Lambky 3 года назад
Da Bear promoted you so I thought I would add you and check you out for awhile! You look like you have good content so I am glad to have heard about you!
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
Yes sir and I thank you for mentioning that to me. I a huge fan of the the Bear and I truly appreciate that he did that.
@RajSidhux
@RajSidhux 2 года назад
Great video demonstration. What model is the Milwaukee?
@stevenyau2443
@stevenyau2443 3 года назад
You broke the makita chuck by turning it backwards 1 click The makita chuck releases easily with just 1 click even after a lot of tightening
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
it locked it in to place when I click back one on the makita
@stevenyau2443
@stevenyau2443 3 года назад
@@ManCaverTools It doesn’t That click unlocks it
@allwoundup3574
@allwoundup3574 3 года назад
This dude doesn't even know how to use the tools he reviews lol
@tommymack3210
@tommymack3210 3 года назад
@@allwoundup3574 lol i know right.b
@tommymack3210
@tommymack3210 3 года назад
@@ManCaverTools maybe read the instructions to the tool😂😎
@marxcats8778
@marxcats8778 2 года назад
Thank you for the video, there is one thing that I would like to know that you didn't probably mention, when you was running this tests, which one showed up the best vibration.
@marxcats8778
@marxcats8778 2 года назад
By the way I loved the video and I just subscribed!
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 2 года назад
I thank you sir. when it comes to small hammer drills, they all have major vibration. which is why SDS is better if you making a ton of holes through concrete
@selaxlife7621
@selaxlife7621 3 года назад
Brother 1...u gotta tighten up ur bits by hand or u will mess up ur chuck...unless ur rich and don't give a hoot than u can tighten them up with ur teeth if u like...2...when u tighten the chuck u r loosening it up by going backwards.....other than that good video.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I do lol.
@darrenalkire5281
@darrenalkire5281 3 года назад
I have never had the chuck come loose on my xph07. The m18s I use at work do come loose and freeze also.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I push these tools through the extreme tests and I thank you for viewing Darren
@justinsanchez6709
@justinsanchez6709 3 года назад
Neither have I. I love my xph07
@harley8215
@harley8215 3 года назад
Milwaukee tools never let me down in any conditions snow rain nothing stops them
@justinsanchez6709
@justinsanchez6709 3 года назад
Milwaukee does make good tools. I'm a second generation plumber and they make a lot of great plumbing tools. My dad and a few other guys have milwaukee fuel drills and one of them the forward and reverse selector doesn't activate unless you pull the battery out and put it back in. The other drill will just stop working all together randomly and then start working again. Every brand has there drawbacks I've just seen that first hand. Never had any issues with my makita stuff but every guy is loyal to their brand 👍
@user-pb1qo9ke1q
@user-pb1qo9ke1q 6 месяцев назад
Milwaukee never let me down either
@AftermathXJ220
@AftermathXJ220 3 года назад
Competition has caught up to Milwaukee, so Milwaukee needs to step it up for gen 4.
@lorenzofranchi1
@lorenzofranchi1 2 года назад
Great tests very compliment for your video. How much Nm have those drills?
@garyrobinson219
@garyrobinson219 3 года назад
I drove lag bolts like this for over two years straight with an old blue 18v Ryobi 1/2 drill 15 years ago. Im not really impressed by this test lol. And yes I still have that old Ryobi it still works fine but needs batteries.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
Very good and I thank you for viewing Gary
@sergioesad276
@sergioesad276 3 года назад
Nice vid as always bro. Don’t you have already the 40v line of makita?
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I will be getting them as soon as I can
@SmrazagilaniMohammadraza
@SmrazagilaniMohammadraza 10 месяцев назад
you are a regular user so which one would you recommend for durability and efficiency i am not a usa resident
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 10 месяцев назад
Both brands are fantastic. Id go with the brand that has. the most tools you are able to buy that is around you. But id reach for the Makita before the Milwaukee
@joakko32
@joakko32 3 года назад
Great vid! Cheers from Argentina. Im switching from my old ni-cd 18v Daewoo to this 2804 Milwaukee. I think that i will be very impressed! Do you think that a high output battery would make a significant difference?
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
the high output has a major difference with tool performance
@passg1920
@passg1920 3 года назад
Hey man, new subscriber here, Love your videos and your attitude towards all the tools you test, you seem to really love what you do and the tools and don't look to try to prove your own opinions on them, you just enjoy all the amazing stuff this technological marvels can do. Pleas keep up the good work! Have a nice day.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I thank you for subscribing pass
@lukebacon6560
@lukebacon6560 2 года назад
It did it… it did it
@JimJimpmjj
@JimJimpmjj 3 года назад
At the 20:00 mark when going through the drill test, what's the make and model of that speed bit please? Thanks keep up the good work enjoy your videos
@gordo2505
@gordo2505 3 года назад
It appears to be a IRWIN SPEEDBOR Drill Bit for Wood. Widely carried at big box hardware stores and Amazon. Cheers!
@JimJimpmjj
@JimJimpmjj 3 года назад
@@gordo2505 nice one thanks after some searching I guessed so, I'm in the UK and managed to pick them up at Toolstation cheers 👍👍
@bergurvinther9811
@bergurvinther9811 2 года назад
as far as i know makita in 2 gear stops when there is to mutch stress to keep the gears safe while milwaukee doesnot do that the last milwaukee i used broke easely while i had to get a nother drill i got a makita and it did better than milwaukee i took the milwaukee apart and the gears were broken inside now i only use Makita and Dewalt 1 of the makita is from 2016 the other is from 2019 the Dewalt is from 2006 the milwaukee was from 2016 and i have a small makita 10,8v from 2011 DF330D that has been handy in narrow spaces i like these tools :)
@clarkfos3447
@clarkfos3447 3 года назад
The new flagship Xph14 better be something sweet because the Makita xph07 you have here is like 6 years old and still a heavy hitter.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I cant wait to get the 40v makita line. I thank you for viewing Clark
@clarkfos3447
@clarkfos3447 3 года назад
You're welcome and the new Xph14 is 18volt and a direct replacement for the old Xph07. I also can't wait for 40volt Makita tools either but it seems like we're last to get them in the US. Keep up the good work.
@danielbarrera55
@danielbarrera55 3 года назад
Which is the best ? Makita or milwaukee ?, your videos are awesome bro !!!!!
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I don't believe in there is a better brand then the other. each brand has its own ups and downs.
@user-pb1qo9ke1q
@user-pb1qo9ke1q 6 месяцев назад
True,but I'm a diehard Milwaukee fan for a reason
@8bitsamurai6
@8bitsamurai6 2 года назад
Love both these but the 998 dewalt is sick with powerstack. Powerful but light for hammer drill. Been test all found makita combo kit for 276. Which is amazing imo.
@jamesfair9751
@jamesfair9751 3 года назад
Yes amazing power in both of these but from the sound of them the makita sounds a little weaker at the end of the drive. Could just be me but it sounded like it bogged down more than the Milwaukee
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I was disappointed with the chuck
@harley8215
@harley8215 3 года назад
The makita tools generally have less power than dewalt and milwaukee never liked makitas look like Bosch drills
@jonathangarzon2798
@jonathangarzon2798 2 года назад
Well when you are a fan it you'll hear and see anything subjective to make it better in your head
@NoMoneyG
@NoMoneyG 3 года назад
Great Job David! Even though I now handle these tools & see & feel the difference, I don't use or keep them. Also even though all brand new, I just slap a battery in check all the settings quickly before they are repackaged & sent off. Nice to see them in action!
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
Its a good way to sell them and I thank you Bro
@wondon2992
@wondon2992 Год назад
That’s cool ! Where do you work bro? I’ve always wondered the inner workings of the tool world
@martylucas8557
@martylucas8557 3 года назад
Dave, if you’re clicking the Milwaukee’s chuck backwards to lock that actually unlocks the chuck. Twist clockwise until it clicks into the detent. Don’t go backwards or counterclockwise for the final twist. I even went into the manual, which directs to turn until you hear a ratcheting sound and it can not be turned further! Who told you to do that? Whoever it was they’re a ding dong head, just trying to make you look bad. With regards to the Makita I’m not sure, but it seems strange that you need to do the one click back deal here as well.... I think you’re actually disengaging the clutch detent when you do that. In fact that may have been your issue when the bit was stripped. The chuck came loose 4 times during the concrete test...Next time try tightening the chuck as tight as you can in the clockwise position...DON’T TURN CLOCKWISE FOR THE FINAL TIGHTENING.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
if you click back once it locks it in place.
@martylucas8557
@martylucas8557 3 года назад
@@ManCaverTools, no it doesn’t...it loosens the chuck. Where did you get this information from? Can you point to a section of a manual? I really believe that’s why you had chuck strip issues with the Makita. After posting this comment to you I read quite a few other comments that say the same thing.
@kizzjd9578
@kizzjd9578 3 года назад
Marty, the makita does need to click backwards to lock the chuck. Common knowledge to makita users.
@Winston-hw8wb
@Winston-hw8wb 3 года назад
i have the exact makita..and you are an i.diot. Never had an issue with it so far like you. WHO TEACHED YOU TO LOCK CHUCK LIKE THAT?. in europe we don't do it that way
@Polydeukes68
@Polydeukes68 2 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iWa94kDON2Q.html
@tommymack3210
@tommymack3210 3 года назад
As an electrician I might go for Milwaukee because it is lighter with about same specs and they have better batteries
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I do thank you so much for viewing :)
@JustMe-999a
@JustMe-999a Год назад
why do you keep untwisting the chuck? you're unlocking it
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools Год назад
if you click back 1 it locks it. this does not work with all chucks
@rajeshladi9310
@rajeshladi9310 2 года назад
Why didn't you use / test the makita first and the milwaukee second? And give edges to milwaukee !?
@CraigularjJoeWoodworks
@CraigularjJoeWoodworks 3 года назад
I do think not using the correct battery does not match real life when I use high output. I get it, but I would think a fuel owner isn't picking their xc, I believe people will use their best battery
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I wouldn't either, but not every test I do can only be using one type of battery
@srinaisyah1709
@srinaisyah1709 3 года назад
New makita tools more power now...thatas amazing
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
more tests will be coming up and I thank you for viewing eko
@brandoromansa151
@brandoromansa151 2 года назад
hi you have so many drills, I hope you give me at least one hehe I have a drill but it's fake and those reviews are good.. thank you!!
@brandoromansa151
@brandoromansa151 2 года назад
hope you read this even its 2022 thanks
@brandoromansa151
@brandoromansa151 2 года назад
please read my comment haha
@reginaldcapistrano536
@reginaldcapistrano536 3 года назад
Boss if you have time make video a for corded hammer drill like makita 710 watts and using wood screw for torque test. Thanks boss, God bless..
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
gotta start adding corded tools to this
@dmik7696
@dmik7696 3 года назад
Very impressive with results of them both
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I thank you for viewing D mik
@axelsprangare2579
@axelsprangare2579 3 года назад
Ryobi background on your phone! I knew you were switching sides behind my back! You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy all obsolete tools, not join them! To bring balance to the utilitariate, not leave it in darkness! (You): I HATE MAKITA AND I HATE YOU! I DESPISE THAT IS GREAT AND HONOR FOOLS' WORK! I TAKE PLEASURE IN CARPENTERS PAIN! (Me): IT'S OVER MAN CAVE TOOLS! YOU ARE CONDEMNED TO BURNING IN RU-vid HELL AKA MUSTAFAR. 😢
@ftham888
@ftham888 3 года назад
I would be happy with both as there's hardly any difference between the two except for the problems with the Makita Chuck.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
both of these are darn good hammer drills and I thank you for viewing FT
@viperstrike3827
@viperstrike3827 3 года назад
The Makita has a Yukiwa chuck which should be the best in the market, this one must be damaged.
@jmhltcfl
@jmhltcfl 3 года назад
If you look closely everytime he tightens the makitas chuck he turns it the other way which unlocks the chuck thats why the bits keep coming loose its user error
@dvxAznxvb
@dvxAznxvb 3 года назад
Joshua Helms its common knowledge for chucks to lock it by turning it back one to engage the positive stop mechanism; dewalt and milwaukee has that knowledge in their manuals
@jmhltcfl
@jmhltcfl 3 года назад
@@dvxAznxvb i just checked my manuals on several different drills makita and dewalt and they say nothing about tightening then turning it back to lock. What they say is counterclockwise to loosen and clockwise to tighten. Dewalt even says turn clockwise till you hear a few clicks to tighten. I've been using drills and other tools for over 25 years I think I know how to tighten a drill chuck. If you watch him with the makita he tightens then turns it the opposite direction which unlocks it i have the same model makita and I did what he did and the bits come loose but when I only tighten it the bits stay in.
@dvxAznxvb
@dvxAznxvb 3 года назад
Joshua Helms interesting find i have dcd777,791 and 996 and all the chucks have a stop when one click to lock the bit then it releases if i continue; it doesn’t release the teeth when turning it anti clockwise one stop As i believe the premise is that the motor controls the teeth but since it has a ratcheting function you have to lock the teeth to prevent it from loosing which isn’t a big deal for most applications but if you have to use reverse immediately such as a reverse thread or larger bits this is where i noticed you have to lock it instead of relying on the clamping force of the teeth to prevent the bit from moving
@jmhltcfl
@jmhltcfl 3 года назад
@@dvxAznxvb thats strange I tried my 995 and 790 dewalt and my makita xph07z and xfd11zb and if you tighten it till it stops and turn it back counterclockwise the bits will come loose under heavy load but if you tighten it till it stops and leave it their fine.
@Steve_K_MS660
@Steve_K_MS660 3 года назад
Great video, I enjoy your content. I’m glad to see it looks like you finally got non SDS bits for your concrete test👍
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I thank you SK
@mykevenable8180
@mykevenable8180 2 года назад
Great review and very helpful on my next purchase. Still deciding between the big 3 ( DeWalt, Makita and Milwaukee).
@bigboy815s
@bigboy815s 2 года назад
Pick Makita they last longer than Milwaukee and I have both
@user-pb1qo9ke1q
@user-pb1qo9ke1q 6 месяцев назад
Switched from Dewalt to Milwaukee and I don't regret it.I Really don't know much about Makita,but I definitely recommend Milwaukee 👌
@jasonvandervalk3679
@jasonvandervalk3679 3 года назад
I try and keep the flats of the bits in line with the jaws of the chuck!
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
Yes sir and I than you Jason
@dr_rust777
@dr_rust777 11 месяцев назад
REALITY is Makita dominates Milwaukee.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 10 месяцев назад
Makita is a darn good brand. nothing wrong with Makita. I love their batteries as well.
@JasonLourenco
@JasonLourenco 3 года назад
i think a fair comparison would be to use similarly priced batteries. you can pick up a makita 5.0 for around $100 and an M18 6.0 HO for the same price (amazon now has the makita at $119 & M18 at $85 but since this fluctuates i think its fair to call it even). Just a thought
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I don't think that would be a fair comparison
@ronniem83
@ronniem83 2 года назад
Did it do it?
@Haiwatzo
@Haiwatzo Год назад
Did yiu lock the chuck on the makita? Found out about the "chucklock" feature when i bought my ddf484. After tightening the bit untighten it by 1 click in the opposite directionto lock the bit in. Stay safe
@user-nr6no5hx4h
@user-nr6no5hx4h Год назад
MAKITA FOREVER ♾️☝️🤘👍👊✊🫰
@jasonhull2163
@jasonhull2163 3 года назад
I have both. Bought Makita cause that’s my battery platform. Got the Milwaukee as a gift. Makita has held up better
@djhago3123
@djhago3123 3 года назад
Personally they are very similar.. both are better than dewalt.. most of my electric tools are Makita.. had old Makita battery tool didn't last too long .. now have some Milwaukee battery tools they are still going strong after 4 years of abuse...its 6 of one half a dozen of the other depends what type of tool your using
@garycaruso4883
@garycaruso4883 3 года назад
Next time please have two bits! thanks for the comparison
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I thank you for viewing Gary
@izoyt
@izoyt 3 года назад
jesus, learn to tighten the drill and use is correctly. it's pain to watch this sloppiness.. clearly marketing bs.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
have you tried to click back your chuck? if you havent give it a shot. it doesn't work with all drill
@Friedrich-Wilhelm-1980
@Friedrich-Wilhelm-1980 3 года назад
@@ManCaverTools i use mikita its my tool line and i never turn my chuck back and i also never lose bits idk it just seems like one of those things where the proper way is not really the best way maybe im wrong but then again i never worn out a 1/4-1/2 bit before either
@aerodicus
@aerodicus 2 года назад
My brushless Makita is an absolute pile. (Makita XFD12Z 18V LXT Lithium-Ion Brushless Cordless 1/2" Driver-Drill) It has a horrible variable speed trigger that is hard to control and it shuts down way before the battery is discharged. The first thing to break was the chuck so I installed a Jacobs all metal one, then the clutch got weak and now under heavy torque it will randomly stop and make the grinding noise until I shift it back and forth a few times. It also abruptly shuts down when driving three inch deck screws. My 14 year old white Makita may be a little slower, but it kicks the new ones ass because it doesn't fail me. I'll probably switch to Milwaukie as I have yet to see one fail as quick as the Makita.
@Zozo806
@Zozo806 3 года назад
Did you actually know that Hammer drills are not a thing in asia and europe? We have the same high specs drills optional without hammer function. In Europe they have actually a bad reputation because it seems that the hammer function works negative on the drill axis and gearing or chuck so that you get alot of bit and drill wobble. After some time. Especially if you hit rebar. I still own the Milwaukee M12 hammer drill as an secondary. It has it advantages especially on this tiny funiture dowl holes of 5 mm where an SDS is mostly overkill. But anything beyond 8 mm is just a pain with hammer drills also the big 18Vs. Anyways, if you see this comment. Check out the new Bosch GSB 18v 150c. Maybe its an interessting one for your channel. Its get released in middle 2021. 150 nm are like 110.63 foot pounds. Stats are impressive
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I want the HILTI drill drive that europe has
@riba2233
@riba2233 2 года назад
Xph07... Was xph14 released at time of filming? It is the new improved model
@nbmufc94
@nbmufc94 3 года назад
Im a makita guy but its clear to see from multiple comparison videos out there that Milwaukee make the most powerful drills/drivers. The chuck on the makita drills are questionable too but i manage with it. Great video by the way keep it up!
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I thank you nbmufc
@miguelledezma1394
@miguelledezma1394 3 года назад
Nah dewalt makes the best drills
@williamfsark
@williamfsark 2 года назад
The battery difference is kind of unfair though. Milwaukee offer that drill with the capability to use the high output battery, so that makes it a product. Just because makita doesn't offer the same level of battery technology doesn't then make it fair to test the milwaukee in a mode where its essentially not performing 100% whilst the makita is performing at 100%. Could of used a high output 3ah milwaukee and a 3ah 18v makita
@shanepipkin4041
@shanepipkin4041 2 года назад
yes
@jemo_hack
@jemo_hack 3 года назад
Nice Dave! The chucks on the Makita are getting worst and worst.... this why I only use them for certain tool... Man you need to test the metabo SB 18 LTX-3 BL Q I
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I plan on getting metabolic soon and I thank you you Jose
@martylucas8557
@martylucas8557 3 года назад
Jose Morales, no they aren’t! I’m into the Milwaukee M12/M18 platform, but I know the quality Makita puts into it’s tools. Their chucks aren’t getting worse. It’s “worse” not “worst” for edification purposes. They’ve always sourced and used excellent chucks, e.g. Jacobs. The issue is with the user. Dave isn’t tightening the chuck properly on the drills, as he’s tightening clockwise, then going backwards or counterclockwise a turn, thereby loosening the chuck back up. I’m surprised more drills haven’t failed, by having their chuck jaws stripped.
@wondon2992
@wondon2992 Год назад
Aye why’s this guy keep unlocking the chuck in the makita lol
@kristiandawe85
@kristiandawe85 3 года назад
I'm very surprised with the Makita's chuck coming undone from the bit, also the clicking while tightening the chuck sounds like a clutch or something is stripped out. But I will say this, both drills in these tests are amazing.
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I broke the chuck, im supposed about that
@kristiandawe85
@kristiandawe85 3 года назад
@@ManCaverTools sucks that you broke it, I figured it would be a tougher drill than that
@fusssarium
@fusssarium 3 года назад
It doing that because every-time he tighten chuck he also lose it by clicking back. Makita only tighten chuck to one direction, there is no "lock" by clicking afterwards to opposite direction. I think the guy on video is used to other chucks and he doesn't bother even read the manual.
@kristiandawe85
@kristiandawe85 3 года назад
@@fusssarium actually turning the chuck back one click is supposed to keep the bit locked in, Makita Australia has a video showing how to tighten bits in the chuck, they show turning the chuck back one click to lock the bit in. it doesn't always work as Dave explained with the Milwaukee. But i think that Makita may have been faulty from the factory. I own the same Makita drill and the chuck is rock solid, never any issues.
@stevenmcconkey4882
@stevenmcconkey4882 3 года назад
Makita is way more reliable than milwaukee. Milwaukee has better warrenty. Makitas are cheaper and only marginally slower/weaker than the milwaukee equivalents. Are milwaukee worth the extra money? Not really. Milwaukee do however have a better collection of none motorised tools than makita. I.e. the packout, drill bits, cone cutters, cutters etc. This does make them more appealing on the other hand. The 1 thing I HATE, HATE, HAAAAAAATE about the milwaukee drills/impacts is the delay you get after the trigger is pressed to when the chuck starts to spin. Makias are INSTANT in comparison. I do like both tool brands I prefer makita for motorised tools Milwaukee for anything else. What are your preferences?
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
im a huge fan of makita myself. you won't see many reviews of a bad makita story
@weldonpinder7295
@weldonpinder7295 3 года назад
Hey Dave out of all the 18v /20v hammer drills you have which one is fastest at driving a 3/16 masonry bit
@ManCaverTools
@ManCaverTools 3 года назад
I think the HILTI is the most powerful one I got
@weldonpinder7295
@weldonpinder7295 3 года назад
@@ManCaverTools thanks. So where would you rank milwaukee with a masonry bit
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