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Battle of the Bulge (1965) "King Tiger" 

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M47 Patton tanks standing in for Tiger IIs in the 1965 film "Battle of the Bulge"
Adding some opinion here since this has gotten a lot of attention: I think the M47s were excellent stand-ins. Firstly, the M47 conveys the power and size of the Tiger II well. Weighing in at almost 50 tons, the M47 is closer in weight to the Tiger 1 than it is to a Sherman (Granted, it's still 20 tons short of the Tiger 2).
It's also close in proportions. A lot of people have suggested that plywood mock ups should be added around other vehicles. Look at the movies that have done this though - Kelley's Heroes, White Tiger, Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers - they all look pretty bad. There's a reason the best ones (BoB and Saving Private Ryan) limit the amount of time you can see the Tigers and the angles of them. It's because you can't fake the proportions of the vehicle. The best vehicles these fakes could use were T-34s, but the T-34's forward turret and narrow body and tracks ruin the illusion, not to mention the sheer size discrepancy that results - the Tiger II is over 12 feet wide compared to a 9-foot-wide T-34. The M47's wide stance, long 90mm gun, sloped glacis, long and narrow turret mounted centrally, and large tracks make for a profile remarkably similar to the Tiger 2.
Another factor is the M47's V12 gasoline engine, which sounds much more like the Tiger's Maybach V12s than the diesel engines of a T-34 or any of the Sherman's engines.
The last thing about using the M47 is the sheer number that could be used. As anyone who has seen it knows, this movie has some truly impressive tank scenes because the Spanish military allowed them almost a brigade worth of operational tanks. It would be basically impossible, even if they had had a much higher budget, to acquire and convert that many tanks. This movie couldn't have existed any other way, and I think they pulled it off excellently.

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@saucejohnson9862
@saucejohnson9862 8 лет назад
Lol all these retarded millenials getting salty that "it's not an actual Tiger II tank", muh War Thunder! Can't even appreciate a real classic.
@fountaincap
@fountaincap 8 лет назад
Lol, I'm a Millennial, but I grew up watching movies like this with my dad. I actually miss when filmmakers had to get creative with painting and modifying real-life vehicles in order to play parts in movies, without relying on CGI/visual effects, such as the F-5s as Migs in Top Gun and the U.S.S. Salem as the Graf Spee in Battle of the River Plate. The Patton tanks actually bear a pretty good resemblance to the King Tigers so it was a good choice!
@geraldjohnson3567
@geraldjohnson3567 7 лет назад
They fail to realize how expensive war movies were then and are now. I didn't bother as a boy. I actually thought the plastic M-48 and M-60 tanks I played with as a boy were German Tiger Tanks because of the movies so I pitted them against my toy American soldiers that came in the same package. Movies will influence how you see things.
@nastynate4916
@nastynate4916 7 лет назад
Gerald Johnson also at the time there were only like 3 functioning King tigers left
@nastynate4916
@nastynate4916 7 лет назад
Gerald Johnson now that seems neat, in dioramas I make I use actual tigers but that seem like a really good alternative, maybe paying homage to all the Great War classics from the mid 1900s.
@BOB-wx3fq
@BOB-wx3fq 7 лет назад
Xor rd it's cool that a game is teaching kids about ww2 history.. I couldn't spot a tiger from a panther at 12
@topdude234
@topdude234 8 лет назад
That king tiger looks awfully American
@butteredbread100
@butteredbread100 8 лет назад
Good luck getting any functioning King Tigers, especially in 1965.
@paddy7812
@paddy7812 6 лет назад
M47 Patton tank
@norad_clips
@norad_clips 6 лет назад
Really, you think so?
@snagarum
@snagarum 6 лет назад
It looks really obese
@havanascp9602
@havanascp9602 6 лет назад
paddy7812 crap. 😂
@kurtvonfricken6829
@kurtvonfricken6829 6 лет назад
"Proves the Germans are still the worlds best toy makers" best line in the movie.
@rhodiusscrolls3080
@rhodiusscrolls3080 2 года назад
Yes and Boys too many Boys..they fought to the bitter end nevertheless.
@TheAKgunner
@TheAKgunner 2 года назад
You don’t hear lines like this much these days.
@rhodiusscrolls3080
@rhodiusscrolls3080 2 года назад
Yes and if I am not mistaken a man named Philip Yordan wrote the script.
@TheAKgunner
@TheAKgunner 2 года назад
@@rhodiusscrolls3080 Didn’t know that. He was a good writer.
@rhodiusscrolls3080
@rhodiusscrolls3080 2 года назад
@@TheAKgunner I think he wrote The King of Kings and The Cincinnati Kid. His style is unmistakably aphoristic.
@AFGuidesHD
@AFGuidesHD 6 лет назад
looks like WW2 in this movie takes place between 1949 - 1955
@cesar_8336
@cesar_8336 2 года назад
Furniture definitely from the 1950's!
@AFGuidesHD
@AFGuidesHD 2 года назад
@@cesar_8336 it's certainly an interesting concept with jet aircraft, 50s furniture and modern tanks
@GayFurryFromKONR
@GayFurryFromKONR 9 месяцев назад
​@@AFGuidesHDalmost like alternative history acenario what if ww2 was postponed for dozen years or so. Damn it would be interesting to see ww2 play out in the 50's with 50's weapons and technologies, even with a-bombs and whatnot. Somebody should make this into a movie or a game. P.S. yeah i know i reply to, 5 yo comment and all, but damn, it's would be such simple but cool idea.
@AFGuidesHD
@AFGuidesHD 9 месяцев назад
@@GayFurryFromKONR Still interesting how WW2 started with light tanks and horse charges and ended with space rockets, jet aircraft, SAM missiles, cruise missiles and nukes.
@philipitaliano1329
@philipitaliano1329 4 года назад
This movie was so epic Eisenhower specifically came out of retirement to denounce this movie.
@TheUltimateTroll9
@TheUltimateTroll9 3 года назад
Wat 4?
@ernesthill2681
@ernesthill2681 3 года назад
I was enthralled with this film when I was 11. Now, not so much. It took far too many liberties with historical accuracy and and 55 years on, what excited me as a boy, depresses me as an adult. War is not some game. It's killing, dying, and destruction. I fear some day it will consume humanity completely
@dannyb3663
@dannyb3663 3 года назад
@@ernesthill2681 Yeah I remember loving this film. One of my favourites. But I simply can't look at Patton tanks nowadays and take the film even remotely seriously. I mean, they could at least have built some sort of wooden mockup turrets over the top of the real ones. Its a travesty.
@MrBassmann15
@MrBassmann15 2 года назад
@@TheUltimateTroll9 Because of how historically inaccurate this movie was. For example, one of the reasons Germany decided to launch this attack was because of the weather. The snowy weather made it impossible for Allied airpower to fly. In the movie, there are no snowstorms and the weather is perfect. The whole reason this battle ended was that the weather cleared and Allied airpower destroy the Tigers. This movie has a weird climax where the Tigers are destroyed by US soldiers rolling oil barrels under the panzers and shooting them.
@TheAKgunner
@TheAKgunner 2 года назад
@@MrBassmann15 Do you know how hard it is to film in a blizzard?
@lachlanholden9554
@lachlanholden9554 5 лет назад
Colonel : Thats an Excellent model General ... General : Model ?!
@markfjordix
@markfjordix 4 года назад
The simpson reference jaja
@mineown1861
@mineown1861 4 года назад
Model ! Where's Walter ?
@shmabadu
@shmabadu 3 года назад
Get in, Herr Oberst.
@pauls5706
@pauls5706 3 года назад
Hop in I said, hop in
@bbenjoe
@bbenjoe Год назад
- It can be done.... but general, why are we in Spain? - Excuse me? - Look around us. Sunny blue sky, houses with charasteristic red tiled roofs.... sir, we are totally in Spain!
@notsureyou
@notsureyou 10 месяцев назад
He forgot to stop 🤔🤷‍♂😂😂😂😂
@uligismann1193
@uligismann1193 16 дней назад
Every veteran of the bulge would've preferred to fight this Battle under the spanish sind - that made the Revision very easy 😂
@MegaHalofan11
@MegaHalofan11 4 года назад
German Officer 1: They look like M47s to me... German Officer 2: *SUSH!*
@robertmorris8997
@robertmorris8997 2 месяца назад
You have to do stuff like that when all the bad guy's stuff got wrecked.
@samuelvonscheidt1472
@samuelvonscheidt1472 7 лет назад
King Pattons
@danielrodriguez248
@danielrodriguez248 4 года назад
Now there's a good name for a tank!!
@nikosdiony8618
@nikosdiony8618 3 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂
@billhiers4171
@billhiers4171 8 лет назад
I love the end. "It can be done!" Gives me chills.
@davidlouis1068
@davidlouis1068 4 года назад
He should have added: "But ve need gas"
@Ghostofenzo
@Ghostofenzo 7 лет назад
Man does Robert Shaw look fucking sharp in this film or what!!! Smooth dude man, Smooth dude.
@Tracer_Krieg
@Tracer_Krieg 3 года назад
Finally, someone who actually gets why they used M47's as stand ins.
@kristelvidhi5038
@kristelvidhi5038 Год назад
Nowadays they don't make King Tigers with CGI to make war movies like thy did with the T-34 movie.
@inisipisTV
@inisipisTV 10 месяцев назад
Or rent the only moving one in France.
@rcgunner7086
@rcgunner7086 3 года назад
I personally enjoyed the look at the old 47s. They are museum pieces now and you're lucky to see them fully functional and moving about. I would love a similar view of the 48s or 60s.
@christoman3430
@christoman3430 4 года назад
I’m more triggered by the fact that this was clearly shot in Spain, judging by the buildings.
@Toblerones
@Toblerones 3 года назад
what do you mean?
@christoman3430
@christoman3430 3 года назад
@@Toblerones joke on how the one thing everyone points out in this movie is the Patton tanks pretending to be tigers. A large part of this movie was shot in Spain.
@petergray7576
@petergray7576 3 года назад
@@christoman3430 All of the tanks in this movie are Spanish Army vehicles. The M24 Chaffee and M47 Pattons were reservist vehicles that the filmmakers rented for a fee. I read that even the tank crews were Spanish Army troops that were rented out, and weren't paid by the filmmakers as extras. Had they filmed this ten years earlier in France it would have been more appropriate: not only because the terrain and buildings been more authentic, but also because the French had working Sherman and Panther tanks.
@CarmineKar98K
@CarmineKar98K 4 года назад
I wonder how many veterans of the actual war saw this scene and was like "umm, excuse me?"
@andrewmcclure2905
@andrewmcclure2905 4 года назад
Dwight D Eisenhower came out of retirement to denounce the film
@Edax_Royeaux
@Edax_Royeaux 3 года назад
@Mata5 The vast majority of tanks used in the Battle of the Bulge weren't Tiger IIs. The movie gave no shits about the Battle of the Bulge.
@WiseSnake
@WiseSnake 2 года назад
From what I read, a fair amount of veterans did not like this movie.
@richardg1426
@richardg1426 2 года назад
One would be Ike he did not like the movie.
@richardg1426
@richardg1426 2 года назад
One would be Ike he did not like the movie.
@Thor_Odinson
@Thor_Odinson 4 года назад
Lets not forget the climactic battle that occurs in the desert of Central Europe
@philhanson1644
@philhanson1644 3 года назад
The Ardenne Desert.
@rhinoujakey8887
@rhinoujakey8887 4 года назад
The king patton tanks! :D Remember them? :3
@crank0962
@crank0962 7 лет назад
great movie despite inaccurate props.
@joshuaplotkin8826
@joshuaplotkin8826 6 лет назад
dude, the entire movie is inaccurate. there was never a massive Kursk like showdown between the American and German tanks. there were numerous engagements that took place throughout the Ardennes and the German offensive eventually ran out steam as well as fuel. that big tank battle to get them to use up their gas never happened. Eisenhower himself hated the movie for being too inaccurate.
@marknorris1381
@marknorris1381 10 месяцев назад
But is it a great movie?
@norms3913
@norms3913 8 лет назад
that's very funny looking king tiger tank model
@natewallinger9270
@natewallinger9270 8 лет назад
Because it is a m47 Patton!
@francescocantoni5665
@francescocantoni5665 7 лет назад
M47 Pattons were really good actors! "Battle of the Bulge" and "Patton" are two of my favorite war movies. I remember the first time i saw it on tv as kid with my dad and every time I see "the Bulge" the tanks attack scenes are still, for me, very impressive.
@karljohanlea5564
@karljohanlea5564 4 года назад
I like how all these people who are commenting-those aren't real King Tigers. Have no imagination. They just can't enjoy a movie for what it is. A way to tell a story.
@brandoneiger
@brandoneiger 4 года назад
Thank You Karl. Your's is the single most intelligent post on the entire thread. R.L.T.W./A.T.W.
@firstgalacticempire8928
@firstgalacticempire8928 9 лет назад
This was a good movie, but it really angered me that in the extra features the director lied about the M47's being "real, authentic Tigers they used in the actual battle" I mean, I understand why they couldn't use real German tanks. But still, lying about the tanks pissed me off.
@sirdouglashaig967
@sirdouglashaig967 8 лет назад
Well there is only one Tiger operational in the world and probably only one or more King Tigers operational.. it pisses me off too but think about it
@paddy7812
@paddy7812 6 лет назад
This was a horrible movie!! Highly inaccurate!!! The battle took place in hills and forest, there was no big climactic tank battle on the plains.
@boomzoom5515
@boomzoom5515 6 лет назад
General Maximilian Veers Still doesn't allow a man to lie about it. What a moron that director is, and kinda disrespectful towards those who were in the battles and say otherwise.
@randomlyentertaining8287
@randomlyentertaining8287 6 лет назад
That's when you drive a real King Tiger through his office wall, pop out of the driver's hatch, shout "NOW THIS IS A REAL AUTHENTIC BATTLE USED KING TIGER!", and proceed to destroy the entire building around him, leaving only the stuff in his room untouched.
@AryaWibu
@AryaWibu 5 лет назад
Kid......
@alexG106
@alexG106 Год назад
The reason they had to use M47 tanks is because actual King Tiger tanks in working conditions were and continue to be so rare that they must be used incredibly delicately. using M47's was an inventive way of showcasing the power of a main battle tank while avoiding the amateurish alternative of mocking up extra armor on another tank to dress it up like a Tiger.
@kristelvidhi5038
@kristelvidhi5038 Год назад
Too bad we haven't seen an actual King Tiger in war movies. That Fury scene would've been a perfect chance to show the King Tiger, fighting against 18 Shermans and 3 Pershings.
@HALLish-jl5mo
@HALLish-jl5mo 8 месяцев назад
​@@kristelvidhi5038Bovington doesn't have a running King Tiger, or Pershing. Also, 18 Shermans and 3 Pershing's Vs 1 King Tiger? The king tiger is just going to stay hidden in that bush. Jagtiger might have tried it's luck, but that's mainly because they had a reputation for being destroyed in their only engagement than anything else.
@kristelvidhi5038
@kristelvidhi5038 8 месяцев назад
@@HALLish-jl5mo they can make the King Tiger with CGI, just like they do with warships. Also, didn't you learn anything from German tank aces, namely Franz Staudegger, who took on 50 T-34s, with his Tiger 1 alone, destroyed 27 of them, and forced the others to reatreat, and won. Then having a King Tiger, who is stronger, take on 50 enemy tanks, would be easier.
@HALLish-jl5mo
@HALLish-jl5mo 8 месяцев назад
@@kristelvidhi5038 Sure, one Nazi totally took on 50 T-34s in his Tiger, that doesn't sound at all like Nazi propaganda perpetuated because Soviet archives weren't open to western historians. Also totally doesn't sound like some creative libraries were taken with statistics, like attributing all claimed kills of a group of tanks to the most senior/most Aryan tank commander. Come on man. Even then, the T-34 was a piece of shit. Armour that shattered because they couldn't heat treat it properly, and optics that fogged up, if anyone actually bothered to install them. Their crews were incompetent and inexperienced, because the training was awful and crew survivability none existent so the good crews died with their tanks. By contrast, the Sherman was actually a good tank, if a bit tall, will well trained crews and good crew survivability. The Pershing was a beast, crewed by experienced tankers. Try 1 King Tigers against that and it's not going to end well.
@elixir4487
@elixir4487 6 лет назад
1:50: So after "failing" to guard a bank in France with his Tiger, the guy on Hesslers right has not been transfered to the eastern front?
@rascallyrabbit717
@rascallyrabbit717 4 года назад
@Rick O'Shay in From Russia with Love he was an agent assassin with Spectre -special executive counter terrorism revenge extortion
@lvlc6023
@lvlc6023 3 года назад
Kelly's Heroes
@masterDevis
@masterDevis 3 года назад
Good eye! Yeah that's the same actor, just Kelly's Heroes hasn't been filmed yet by '65
@elixir4487
@elixir4487 3 года назад
After some research, I now guess he was not punished to hard because because of his prestige boost after having cought Roger Bartlett.
@WarbonnetProductions
@WarbonnetProductions 3 года назад
Can we take a second to appreciate the music when they are looking at the tanks?
@aweebwehrabooidiot3012
@aweebwehrabooidiot3012 6 лет назад
In case those of you who are complaining, try finding a working German tiger II or try remaking it. At the time, no tank was able to be remodeled to look like it and not many Americans actually knew what the Tiger II looked like. This is also the closet thing to an early Tiger II which were fitted with Porsche Turret which is somewhat similar to the patton shown in film. The 90mm is also the most accurate gun to compare to the German 88. Only 2mm smaller, it's practically identical
@sonrouge
@sonrouge 8 лет назад
Man, what I would give for this movie to have involved real Royal Tigers.
@rc59191
@rc59191 8 месяцев назад
Only way that would be possible is if Hollywood bought a factory and started cranking out period accurate tanks lol.
@kennethholland6697
@kennethholland6697 2 года назад
The M4 Sherman medium tanks were portrayed by M24 Chaffee light tanks, which were deployed in the later stages of the war.
@diegoferreiro9478
@diegoferreiro9478 10 месяцев назад
That's because Spanish Army never had Shermans. The Battle of the Bulge, Patton were two of many movies of the era that were shot in Spain and for those movies the Spanish Army was heavily involved, Maybe it was not very accurate per the material, but at least there are scenes with dozens of actual tanks involved and no CGI at all. The pity was that only10 years before the filming there were still operational 20 Pz IVs and 10 Stug IIIs . On the other hand while already retired there were stored and in flyable condition a lot of HA-1.112 (Merlin engined Bf.109s) and C-1.111 (He.111). Many of them were used in the Battle of Britain movie, and some still survive today as air show warbirds with occasional acting roles (i.e. relatively recent Christopher Nolan's Dunkirk).
@manassurya2019
@manassurya2019 7 лет назад
Yeah, they're m47 patrons
@about2snap
@about2snap 7 лет назад
M47 patrons are very easy to drive, they have a good turnt radius.
@manassurya2019
@manassurya2019 7 лет назад
About2Snap lol, I mean pattons.
@elstevobevo
@elstevobevo 7 лет назад
but, I like Patron!
@titakristengco
@titakristengco 6 лет назад
A tigers2 look like a large Panther tank
@khalilvanbebber83
@khalilvanbebber83 6 лет назад
Manas Surya but you know how hard it was to get ahold of real king tigers
@bellvnv2000
@bellvnv2000 7 лет назад
It was only 20 years since War's end when they made this film & no one remember what a ' FUCKING KING TIGER LOOKED LIKE ' ?!?! Believe you me all Allied Soldiers made it their business to know what a KT look like because when one showed up on the battlefield, every Allied Soldier found a reason to leave ! " RESPECT " !
@about2snap
@about2snap 7 лет назад
"hey, we dont have a king tiger model. ok go to studio B and find a tank model. done.
@YDDES
@YDDES 7 лет назад
The model had to look like the real tanks, hired from the Spanish Army. And, they were M 47 Pattons. But, the small models on the plotting table, are Roco plastic models of Kingtiger tanks...
@Martian_Productions
@Martian_Productions 7 лет назад
Bud, are you stupid? There aren't any operational tiger tanks in existence nor were there any left after ww2. They didn't have CGI either so they got an entire brigade of fully operational m47 patton tanks allowed by the spanish government to film the movie.
@mrbroeders
@mrbroeders 7 лет назад
We all know those aren't Tigers.
@johncostello2948
@johncostello2948 11 месяцев назад
The Patton tank enjoyed prodigious service masquerading as a Tiger tank between 1950 and 1975.
@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe
@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe 10 дней назад
This commander is finally clued in about this monster just before this attack? Where's this officer been. Love Robert Shaw.
@misterjag
@misterjag 6 лет назад
The M-47 was the last U.S. tank with a bow mounted machine gun. The Spanish Army had 389 of them.
@CrucisJon
@CrucisJon 5 лет назад
We can easily say "That's not a King Tiger" in our time and age. Remember, the Internet hasn't been invented yet. Only Soldiers or people who are in the actual War itself can tell if it's a true King Tiger or not. Regular people like us won't know it's a King Tiger if we're all alive in 1965 and would actually believe it's a "King Tiger" I think people back then would have enjoyed the Film more, Eisenhower denounce the film because he knows what an actual King Tiger Looks like. You don't hear regular people or film critiques complain that "It's not a King Tiger" only the great General & President Eisenhower did that stood up and denounced the film.
@wesseljacobs2201
@wesseljacobs2201 4 года назад
I think they did fine with the things they had only thing that i didnt like its shot in spain but its 1960s i liked the movie longest day also was pretty good to me
@Edax_Royeaux
@Edax_Royeaux 3 года назад
They had films back then, plenty of WWII movies and newsreel footage of WWII already existed. If you didn't know about WWII, what were you doing watching this movie?
@rijkemans5114
@rijkemans5114 3 года назад
It's not that without internet you'll learn nothing. Plenty of modeling kits, books and magazines around, back then as well. Those tanks never bothered me though. It's understandable German WW2 armour is hard to get, and I think the movie has bigger issues than that.
@CrucisJon
@CrucisJon 3 года назад
@@rijkemans5114 I didn't mean that Internet is the only way of learning, my bad for not specifying. I mean the common folks won't know if it's a Tiger Tiger tank or not, unless you're a Veteran. Unlike today , German tanks are immortalized through games , movies , endless documentaries etc. so people are exposed to what it really looks like and can easily search on the internet if they do wish to see it, specially people like me from the Philippines. I bet if I was born during that time, I dont think an Asian like me can tell if that thing is a Tiger or not since from where I am from, Sherman tank is more famous. Despite the film budget, I think making an exact replica of any German tank would be really hard and costly. I mean ... look at Operation Grief The Germans tried to disguise their Panthers and we know what happened when they tried to make it look like an American tank. Unlike right now, WW2 Tanks are totally obsolete and most are being displayed in museum, while back in the day some countries are using WW2 tanks and some tanks are still being used by different countries for their own Tank Research / studies.
@gillespriod5509
@gillespriod5509 2 года назад
We all used to have Books, and see tons of documentaris before internet! When i was Little almost 30 years ago immediately noticed they couldnt film the real tank
@lalocandadelmistero
@lalocandadelmistero 2 года назад
I love this movie. it isn't historically accurate but the actors did a nice job
@rc59191
@rc59191 8 месяцев назад
I heard that General Eisenhower even walked out during the movie because of how angry he was with the innacuracy. For some reason I used to think World War II movies tended to be more accurate considering it was still fairly fresh in people's minds.
@randomobserver8168
@randomobserver8168 5 дней назад
I am fascinated with this particular reaction to older war films, one that was of no consequence as late as the 90s, though literally every tank and plane or warship nerd always did note them for interest's sake. There was, for practical purposes, no surviving German kit. Panzer IVs demobilized as turrets in the deserts of Syria, and handfuls of examples of other items in proving grounds or museums. Nothing that could be spared for movies or wasted being blown up in effects shots. By comparison, American and Russian tanks existed in fantastic numbers. It became easily conventional to pick and choose, with consistency within the film the main criterion. Patton used small M24 Chaffees for American tanks, large M48 Pattons for German ones, to convey a sense. It worked very well. The practice was common and easily understood by anyone not a painful literalist. Naturally, Allied forces also often had Shermans where appropriate, since those existed in huge numbers. The use of T34s for German panzers didn't bother general audiences, they just looked foreign and European, and it amused tank nerds. All good. Those also existed in huge numbers. Sometimes mockup work was done, sure. It all worked well. Same was largely true for planes, if they had to fly, though thankfully the Spanish Air Force was able to provide slightly wrong looking ME-109s and HE 111 for The Battle of Britain.
@nastynate4916
@nastynate4916 6 лет назад
Yes, from a historical stand point, this wasn’t a good movie. I could look past the fact that they used M47s for King Tigers but there are too many inaccuracies with so much. But yet, I always find myself coming back to watch it. I think it’s because these older war films from mid to late 20th century always have a soft spot for me. It might have something to do with the catchy themes and soundtracks and practical effects, something that’s isn’t seen as much in modern war films today. Thankfully more directors are leaning on the practical effects area. But even then, these movies’ overall vibe and quality just give me goosebumps to the point where even the most propagandized and inaccurate war movies still keep me coming back to them
@robertmcclements644
@robertmcclements644 4 года назад
we easily fooled in the 1960's
@CarmineKar98K
@CarmineKar98K 4 года назад
Unless you was a veteran of the actual war. Those guys must've laughed at this scene or got confused, maybe angry that it wasn't represented? No idea but I would've loved seeing vets reactions.
@stephenmacdonald76
@stephenmacdonald76 3 года назад
we are easily fooled these days it's just a different deception nowadays
@Jaded-ITS
@Jaded-ITS 4 года назад
How dope would this have actually been if they were all intact tiger 2s
@trager8933
@trager8933 2 года назад
They could have at least used prop Tiger 2 tanks In the movie.
@zhuangsaur227
@zhuangsaur227 11 месяцев назад
Given there are only a small handful of Tiger I and with only just over 1000 Tiger I tanks.... and not even 500 Tiger Ausf Bs it would have been tricky to obtain one not to mention maintenance of the Maybach 230 engine would have been tricky
@ToreDL87
@ToreDL87 11 месяцев назад
@@trager8933 Would have been far too much hassle for the budget, even SPR was logistical hell for the dressed up T-34 they used, imagine in a movie depicting the bulge they would have to dress up the equal amount of vehicles and add moving turret with blank firing guns as well. Enter the M47, it looks close enough and, roughly same dimensions and they were able to just repaint them and shoot the whole movie as was.
@stephendonnison8045
@stephendonnison8045 6 лет назад
I loved this film as a kid but now .. bloody hell
@Infernal460
@Infernal460 6 лет назад
1:24 These are an awfully tempting target for any bomber who just happen to fly over.
@rascallyrabbit717
@rascallyrabbit717 4 года назад
peek-a-boo I see you little tanks o mine
@thomaszhang3101
@thomaszhang3101 4 года назад
Bombers won’t do, you need fighter bomber, dive bombers, or dedicated ground attack planes, which, in case they did make it through fighters, aa fire and are calm enough to carry on, are more effective at suppressing ground forces than destroying them.
@andrewmcclure2905
@andrewmcclure2905 4 года назад
"That's not a real king tiger" back in the day when studios still had to scrape together materials for films becuase practical realistic effects were too expensive to be authenitc and CGI wasnt even a concept yet. They used what they had which happened to be cold war era American vehicles with iron crosses painted on. Even today only a handful of inoperable King tigers remain intact. It still makes a believable outgunned situation whether its historically accurate in materials or not. More attention was given to story over substance to make up for this and thats why I personally beleive this era of films will always be the greatest.
@harrybriscoe7948
@harrybriscoe7948 4 года назад
Movies are entertainment. I am 60 now. I saw this when it came out and was very entertained
@rascallyrabbit717
@rascallyrabbit717 4 года назад
there is only one operational Tiger tank and two operational King Tigers in the world
@Edax_Royeaux
@Edax_Royeaux 3 года назад
This movie didn't need to bother showing King Tiger tanks because very few of them were actually at the Battle of the Bulge. They choose to inaccurately portray the German Army with nothing but King Tigers.
@thewomble1509
@thewomble1509 Год назад
Then , just four years later , Kubrick stunned everyone with the amazing visuals in 2001................. Someone is lying about something.
@colinsorrells8755
@colinsorrells8755 4 года назад
I love this movie's ending when the Allies release a giant shark to attack and eat Robert Shaw's tank.
@warhawk9566
@warhawk9566 8 лет назад
I get that the filmmakers have to get creative since after the end of ww2 no one had a working King Tiger to pull out of their pocket. But they could have at least tried to make the M47's they had look like Tigers.
@KermitTheGamer21
@KermitTheGamer21 4 года назад
A Bridge Too Far did it just fine, putting a box around Leopard 1's to make them look passable as Jagdtigers. This was just lazy.
@Edax_Royeaux
@Edax_Royeaux 3 года назад
The filmmakers weren't creative, that was the problem. The vast majority of German tanks at the Battle of the Bulge weren't Tiger IIs. Instead of using tanks models that actually fought in the battle like Panthers and Panzer IVs, they came up with the idea that the Germans *only* used Tiger II tanks, perpetuating a myth of total American inferiority.
@Bobbytomface
@Bobbytomface 3 года назад
“It proves that the germans are the best toy makers.”
@user-yy9uh8gr2b
@user-yy9uh8gr2b 6 лет назад
M47's acting skill is really good!
@user-qt8je6ci6d
@user-qt8je6ci6d Месяц назад
This movie is a classic. It captures the feeling, even though it lacks in historical accuracy.
@ConstantineJoseph
@ConstantineJoseph 7 лет назад
Back then there was no internet to show pictures of tiger tanks.
@frankhernandez6883
@frankhernandez6883 4 года назад
they were the stunt doubles for the REAL Tigers!
@Timotheus157
@Timotheus157 6 лет назад
Salute to Robert Shaw for a fantastic performance as the leader of the Tiger tank group in the Battle of the Bulge movie. The need for oil to make fuel will prove fatal to the German military in the long run. Sad but true. Valiant effort though. By the middle of 1945 the USA became militarily dominant with the atomic bomb.
@ThatOneEverywhereDude
@ThatOneEverywhereDude Год назад
Wow there is a tiger II tank that looks like M47 Patton? This movie actually put a lot of budget to rent this tank!
@katsu-graphics5634
@katsu-graphics5634 10 месяцев назад
age 72 in Pittsburgh. . .loved the movie. . .I wished way back then that they should have built plywood turret covers and tank tread fenders to look like Panzers, not Tigers.
@tigrenaranjo
@tigrenaranjo 8 лет назад
that is not a king tiger...
@butteredbread100
@butteredbread100 8 лет назад
Good luck getting any functioning King Tigers, especially in 1965.
@f.m.f962
@f.m.f962 7 лет назад
there is a functioning one
@tenarmurk
@tenarmurk 7 лет назад
F.M.F 69 not a king tiger
@gruntmajor99
@gruntmajor99 7 лет назад
Ten Armurk actually there is one functioning tiger two
@tenarmurk
@tenarmurk 7 лет назад
***** yeah i know but you never gonna find enough to film a movie with them except smth like wjite tiger but that was shit so..
@UserNotFound-mw4hp
@UserNotFound-mw4hp 6 лет назад
The rare M47 King Tiger, the pride of Bradley Hitler's Luftwaffe
@Perseus109
@Perseus109 12 дней назад
These are just what I need for that Shark…. Lol
@user-wl7nb3np6i
@user-wl7nb3np6i 5 месяцев назад
Watched this epic many times love it 😊
@mdhcz
@mdhcz 6 лет назад
The King Tiger has been the biggest tank ever built. It weighed 70 tons due to its massive armor (double than the American Sherman), but it was fuel costly (8 miles per gallon) and it needed wide roads. In the Battle of the Bulge it could not go into the forests like the Shermans, so their routes were easily predictable. That was why the importance of Bastogne, since all the roads converged there, so the Tigers had to pass thru Bastogne in order to keep rolling since they could not go thru the forests....
@zhuangsaur227
@zhuangsaur227 11 месяцев назад
I wondered why the Tiger Ausf B wasn't given anything bigger than the 88mm Kwk 43 whilst a powerful gun cannon in its own right wouldn't a 105mm or 128mm even pack a bigger punch despite a smaller ammunition load and ROF afterall the Jagdtiger had a 128mm PaK 80
@StaffordMagnus
@StaffordMagnus 10 месяцев назад
@@zhuangsaur227 It was what the Tiger II turret was designed for, the 88/L71 was well and truly capable of punching through the armour of any tank the allies had, so a 128mm gun would have had less ammo, and been slower to reload.
@StaffordMagnus
@StaffordMagnus 10 месяцев назад
Heaviest production tank. The Maus was a lot bigger and heavier, although technically it was only a prototype.
@The_Greedy_Orphan
@The_Greedy_Orphan 10 месяцев назад
I dont think Maus ever went into production, 2 prototypes were made and that was it.
@AceTheMM
@AceTheMM 6 лет назад
*This is a deep pain...*
@kokwahgoh1932
@kokwahgoh1932 13 дней назад
Back in 1965, no internet, no CGI, the film makers have to make do with what they could find. Actually Battle of the Bulge many German tank models took part, it wasn't all King Tiger. Pz IV, Pz III, StuG III, captured tanks all took part.
@nulife022
@nulife022 11 месяцев назад
The Tiger 2 was an overweight underpowered lemon. Not enough of them still running to make a movie even back in the 60s.
@thezac2059
@thezac2059 7 лет назад
For anyone arguing why Tiger IIs weren't used go look up the movie's budget. You can't get replica WWII tanks and Robert Shaw or great filming locations at the same time. It's a smart financial decision, also why they were used in Patton.
@paulpeterson4216
@paulpeterson4216 4 года назад
Also, I am pretty sure that even the German Army in 1945 didn't have as many King Tigers as are depicted here, let alone to be able to scrape together that many post-war survivors. .
@flitsertheo
@flitsertheo 2 года назад
So they skipped the realistic replica tanks and great filming locations and went for Robert Shaw who would bring in the cinema crowds.
@shyboy-kr1fb
@shyboy-kr1fb 8 лет назад
the toy we build today are not for children
@thegalaxysempiredarthfydr5002
@thegalaxysempiredarthfydr5002 3 месяца назад
Sherman + T_34 + Panzer 4 = the king tiger
@bogusmogus9551
@bogusmogus9551 6 лет назад
Fun Fact: In the scene where Charles Bronson's character confronts Robert Shaw's character in his mobile command vehicle about the Malmedy massacre, Bronson's officers infantry crossed rifles on his collar are turned upside down between takes.
@yoitsme0000
@yoitsme0000 7 лет назад
In this movie, "King Tiger" are in reality "M47 Patton", it is volunteer, because tanks are difficult to construct for movie and more difficult to have an original.
@adamreynolds2372
@adamreynolds2372 7 лет назад
The thing is they could have made the pattons look more tigerish. Because most of the people seeing this film are likely to have fought in battles 20 years before and therefore they may be thinking that they dont look very familiar. Also there are a fair few working royal tigers compared to only one working tiger 1.
@Martian_Productions
@Martian_Productions 7 лет назад
Yeah, but considering an entire brigade of fully operational tanks were used in this movie. Think about it, there wouldn't be nearly as many good shots in there nor would the budget allow for all of the king tigers to film in the movie.
@agenthunk5070
@agenthunk5070 6 лет назад
really on what front?when the war ended...I was sure germany had alot of tanks and planes left to use...
@D8W2P4
@D8W2P4 6 лет назад
+Agent Hunk While the king tiger had far more of the produced machines survive than the tiger, there where very few king tigers made in the first place. Most of the German machines that existed where things like the Stug and Panther (the French used the Panther until they got a replacement for it at which point almost all where scrapped) for the tanks.
@user-oq3cf3sf6h
@user-oq3cf3sf6h 12 дней назад
Excellent movie.my Dad was in that battle
@janporinchak5867
@janporinchak5867 10 месяцев назад
Those magnificent Walker Tanks could have crushed the damn Allies if they had been made earlier in the war!
@Godsjudgement12
@Godsjudgement12 8 лет назад
now i get the GuP joke lol
@Paveway-chan
@Paveway-chan 8 лет назад
Wait what?
@Godsjudgement12
@Godsjudgement12 8 лет назад
Erik Bergström i.imgur.com/gEOA23n.jpg
@Paveway-chan
@Paveway-chan 8 лет назад
erasofwar12 Lol! XD
@NTAD
@NTAD 8 лет назад
Sir, I thank you for this.
@patrickstar7
@patrickstar7 9 лет назад
I'd love this movie if they actually got the tanks right
@patrickstar7
@patrickstar7 9 лет назад
Maximillian Faust yeah but they even messed up that model
@Mugdorna
@Mugdorna 9 лет назад
+patrick star I would guess they deliberately "messed up" the model so that it matched the tanks used in the film
@patrickstar7
@patrickstar7 9 лет назад
Mugdorna well as a tank lover they angered me :(
@Retronightvintage1993
@Retronightvintage1993 9 лет назад
+patrick star i know right they could have painted some tanks in German camo and added foliage on them to to make it more execptable
@patrickstar7
@patrickstar7 9 лет назад
***** yeah they didn't really try
@XX-sp3tt
@XX-sp3tt 2 месяца назад
In spite of being their best tank commander, this guy HATRED the Tiger 2s, they were unreliable machines and total gas guzzlers.
@carseye1219
@carseye1219 10 месяцев назад
There were so many liberties taken with actual history that Eisenhower walked out a half hour into the screening.
@ColonelPeppers
@ColonelPeppers 6 лет назад
It is hard to watch this film now because I know so much about WWII history to know all the errors and mistakes in this film.
@f.m.f962
@f.m.f962 7 лет назад
the king tiger ( Tiger II ) doesnt look that
@f.m.f962
@f.m.f962 7 лет назад
it looks like a chaffe
@Strait_Raider
@Strait_Raider 7 лет назад
And yet, it's still a Patton.
@marsimann9764
@marsimann9764 7 лет назад
thats not King Tiger its fucking T34 Russian Tanks
@f.m.f962
@f.m.f962 7 лет назад
Strait Raider oh ok
@YDDES
@YDDES 7 лет назад
The "Shermans" in the movie are actually "Chaffees".
@eduardmalovrh3837
@eduardmalovrh3837 2 года назад
Fantastic- the famous King Tiger is according to them- replica of Soviet T-34.
@t.t7225
@t.t7225 Год назад
That is american m47
@DarthWaffle.
@DarthWaffle. 10 месяцев назад
Come look at your new Patton, uh I mean, king tiger tank.
@elmocotton3078
@elmocotton3078 7 лет назад
You have to suspend ur disbelief
@tt14life90
@tt14life90 7 лет назад
umm. what are those. lol. not tigers
@DASCO2136
@DASCO2136 7 лет назад
M47 Pattons
@Solitude47152
@Solitude47152 2 года назад
That’s a lot of tanks. “It can be done!”
@sirxavior1583
@sirxavior1583 6 лет назад
If I may recall the movie has the record of most tanks blown up in a single movie.
@adamthewolf756
@adamthewolf756 7 лет назад
WTF THOSE ARE NOT KING TIGERS LOL
@usmarine3226
@usmarine3226 4 года назад
Goodluck finding king tigers during that time
@keystonebrotherb
@keystonebrotherb 6 лет назад
That’s Mike Pence!!!
@craigcooknf
@craigcooknf 11 месяцев назад
I had no idea that the Germans invented the M47........
@johnbertrand7185
@johnbertrand7185 6 лет назад
Nice movie even with the inaccuracies in equipment. But the biggest mistake the movie makes is showing the optimistic thinking of the German General (Werner Peters). All but the most fanatical German general officers knew this attack would fail. von Rundstedt was quoted as saying, "If we reach the Meuse we should go down on our knees and thank God - let alone trying to reach Antwerp!"
@Nutbuster690
@Nutbuster690 7 лет назад
They are M46s not the Tiger II (P)or (H)
@Martian_Productions
@Martian_Productions 7 лет назад
Ok try finding an entire brigade of real Tiger II tanks working properly. They still used an entire brigade of operational tanks in the movie. Can you at least appreciate that fact, or are you too used too CGI that doesn't mean anything.
@MatalinoMSiraj
@MatalinoMSiraj 6 лет назад
Stop being so ignorant and do some actual research on the patton tree
@dylanrubidium7454
@dylanrubidium7454 8 лет назад
Those are M26 Pershing Tanks not King Tigers!! King Tigers have a square like shaped head a bit similar to the Panther , and have bigger cannons. And their frontal armor has a sharper slope.
@Strait_Raider
@Strait_Raider 8 лет назад
No, they are M47 Pattons, as stated in the description.
@albvscommesincastello6346
@albvscommesincastello6346 7 лет назад
shame. big shame they are us tanks replaced for German Sd.Kfz 182
@xX_Cringeinator_Xx
@xX_Cringeinator_Xx 6 лет назад
Dylan Rubidium not Pershings dude
@johnwilliamsscuba6487
@johnwilliamsscuba6487 6 лет назад
Its just a movie
@shadowfax5113a
@shadowfax5113a 7 лет назад
That's a nice Patton tank Germany invented there XD
@Martian_Productions
@Martian_Productions 7 лет назад
Ok try finding an entire brigade of real Tiger II tanks working properly. They still used an entire brigade of operational m47 patton tanks in the movie.
@t.macrocosm1831
@t.macrocosm1831 7 лет назад
This film should be remade with computer generated Tiger IIs.
@nickboer6446
@nickboer6446 8 лет назад
thats are m26 Pershing tankd
@nickboer6446
@nickboer6446 8 лет назад
tanks
@Strait_Raider
@Strait_Raider 8 лет назад
No.
@Williams4287
@Williams4287 8 лет назад
Those are M47's, a new and improved version of the M46 Patton Tank... Which was an up-engined, higher powered version of the M26 Pershing. The M47 just barely missed tank action in Korea, and saw limited combat in Vietnam as the M41 Bulldog saw more use in the rugged terrain there.
@javierperezfernandez8997
@javierperezfernandez8997 6 лет назад
M 48 spanish army
@javierperezfernandez8997
@javierperezfernandez8997 6 лет назад
M 48 Spanish army, armored división Brunete
@arnoldlardizabal8443
@arnoldlardizabal8443 7 лет назад
Fireflies not tigers!
@Strait_Raider
@Strait_Raider 7 лет назад
Not... even close. They're Pattons.
@arnoldlardizabal8443
@arnoldlardizabal8443 7 лет назад
pattons are late tanks already.usually pattons are desert ragers.
@austin-2023sw
@austin-2023sw 7 лет назад
they used the patton as a stand in since literally every king tiger was either broken down for scrap or in a museum
@iamacewan
@iamacewan 7 лет назад
Yes, cause it is so hard to make a cardboard box version of a king tiger that won't move and have a better effect in the movie.
@Martian_Productions
@Martian_Productions 7 лет назад
Can you just appreciate that the movie literally used an entire brigade of fully operational tanks?
@davidnmfarrell
@davidnmfarrell 8 дней назад
"Regrettably there is only one can of gas for the whole panzer division"
@edlindo6005
@edlindo6005 6 лет назад
Another thing the movie got wrong was that the King Tiger 1st saw action in the Battle of the Bulge. The King Tiger 1st saw action in Normandy in August of that year. The Russians 1st encountered King Tigers when they entered Poland in September. The King Tiger was also not used as frequently as it was i the movie. Col. Peiper (depicted as Col. Hessler in this movie) did not like the King Tigers, they were too slow and prone to break down. He favored Tiger i Tanks and Panthers in his spear head.
@Jermster_91
@Jermster_91 4 года назад
In 1977's A Bridge Too Far, a Leopard 1 was used as a Panther.
@silenusut
@silenusut 2 года назад
The very last part was great writing. Thanks. Subbed.
@frankbonfilio7443
@frankbonfilio7443 7 лет назад
When they made the movie they did not want to use models. Having that scene with him walking down the row of tanks they had to improvise
@LiterallyMe2022
@LiterallyMe2022 7 дней назад
Ah yess the m47 king patton
@TOFKAS01
@TOFKAS01 10 месяцев назад
The little tricks of old warmovie-classics...
@TellySavalas-or5hf
@TellySavalas-or5hf 11 месяцев назад
A great scene and interaction between those acorts.
@osiris8637
@osiris8637 8 лет назад
For anyone complaining about the fact it wasn't a King Tiger, there is only one working that remains from the Second World War and is currently on display at the Bovington Tank museum in the UK. There were none or very little special effects in 1965 for movies, they had to make do with what they had and at that point without the internet and such a doubt many people who saw the film back then knew what a King Tiger looked like.
@flitsertheo
@flitsertheo 2 года назад
The Bovington Tiger # 131 is not a King Tiger (aka Tiger 2) but a Tiger 1. There is at least 1 running King Tiger in Europe (belongs to the Saumur tank museum in France if I'm not wrong). Though I don't think either of these tanks were in running condition back in the sixties.
@williamrance2587
@williamrance2587 10 месяцев назад
Tank working in Bovington is a tiger 1 only working king tiger is in France
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