The only "Review" I'd seen from beginning to end. Short , informative, clear, enterteining! I'd personally like to see a lot more of those, preferably different machines, different style and NOT only brand new or 20k + range, more of real world stuff. Thanks for the great content.
I got the 2022 S1000xr and the old one you got there is outdated. A lot of improvements including the vibration and the weight. Also, lights, M chain, TFT, muffler, etc.
You guys are hilarious and probably the only video I’ve listened to without looking at the comments. Just an honest, funny, well shot and informative video. Kudos sirs😎
Very nice review. Based on that I decided to go for the Multistrada 1260. Yes the 4-in line is smoother. I have also Z1000SX as well. Kawasaki, best 4-in line I have ever had. But the knee angle is to tight ( I am getting older). That is why I looked for something more relaxed to be placed on. And yes Ducati V2 DVT is just a nice machine, even though a low revs its not perfect. But do I want a BMW GS. No not yet... And the V4 is quite expensive and also needs revs. Design of the 1260 is simply fantastic including the paniers. Thank you guys nice job.
Very useful to have differing opinions, perspectives, and comprehensive talking points. Kind of on the market for an XR (maybe) so this was quite helpful
OC: Dope, way to come back strong my dude! Also team blue, I want that sportiness on the street and the Ducati feels like a compromise between the beamer and a ktm.
wow for me guys just the number one pro review of the years the camera angle the way you talk about the bikes covering every aspect of those bikes just a pro job keep those video coming.
OC - Great format. Could rotate with Brian, Luke and Beau... Hell, you guys on a road trip or ADV trip would be entertaining as well. Glad we got our channel back.
That is what a good comparison is all about: how a bike feels compared to the other. We can all read specs, whereas feel is the information we can't have in the specs sheet. Very good, guys.
I’ve owned both. Both are great bikes, similar but different. XR, corners and brakes better, better and more plentiful accessories, better dealer back-up, manic sportsbike engine. 1260S. Calmer and quieter engine, smaller and lighter, bags more torque, quicker and easier to ride in day-to-day riding. Slightly nervous front end.
Great video guys, loved it. I test rode both these bikes and recently ended up buying the Multistrada and absolutely love it. I found the suspension on the BM was just a bit too stiff and the riding position wasn’t as comfortable but damn it was a fast bike!
I have owned both the 1260S Multistrada (May 2019 to July 2020) and now have the 2020 model BMW S1000XR, The Multistrada had cold starting issues (It intermittently wouldn't start when temp below 5 degree's C) despite 3 visits over several months the dealer could not find the problem, and the colder the weather the worse the problem was, not great for an everyday bike, but it did almost everything else well to be honest, part ex changed it for the BMW S1000XR in July 2020 due to the unreliability issues and am very happy with my choice, the suspension and other system's are infinitely more adjustable on the Ducati where as the BMW's suspension is a little more basic, But the BMW has been super reliable and not missed a beat in 4500 miles of summer and winter riding.
OC! Team Blue for me. I love both bikes, but BMW just takes the win in terms of engineering. And I love this style of comparison video with you guys. Two different riders, with different riding backgrounds and preferences, with different levels of experience and knowledge, it delivers a really enjoyable magazine style feature. It would also be interesting to see the two of you doing a "deep dive" on any particular bike, essentially with Chase giving First Ride style impressions, and Brian giving tidbits of in-depth knowledge about various interesting items on the bike in question, such as explaining any of it's unique tech or engineering, or performance characteristics, or history.
Loved the video. Very well made and to the point. Just wish you include even more detailed shots of the bikes in question and not just shots of you guys riding.
As a 4x Ducati Multistrada owner, I would definitely buy the BMW S1000XR. Both are great machines with different personalities. Can't loose with either.
Great video. I tour on an S1000RR and agree with Brian for most things. Especially the vibrations, after 15,000km this year, I developed a vibration injury in my right hand and had to take couple weeks off. I’m just glad it wasn’t arm pump from the track!
That's right, I have already tested the new one, the first thing I noticed is that the suspension has not improved much compared to the previous model, so it remains hopelessly behind on the Multistrada. by the way, they also have certain things that are even much worse than on the previous model. Take the saddle now. Whether you use the original saddle or a steel plate, that's the same thing, way but way too hard, how do you get it in your head to place something like this on a touring bike.
Love the VS review format. I know you can only test what bike are available, but it should be noted that the XR got a ground up makeover in 2020. The updated XR has the TFT dash among other things. And one thing I wonder in relation to the complaints of the XR's suspension stiffness, since the XR was used do you know if the suspension preload setting was touched by the previous owner? Actually for fairness when comparing a used bike against a new one in a format like this, maybe in the future consider adjusting the proload to the user manual recomendation? Even fully electronic adjustible suspension responds well to a properly adjusted mechanical preload setting that corosponds to the riders weight. All that said in defence of the BMW, a fair ammount of XR owners traded their pre 2020 XR's in for Multistrada's after Ducati gave it the 2018 makeover. That right there says how much better the multi is/was over the XR. I wonder if the new XR can hold its own today?
I’ve driven many bikes in my life, when I was driving an Harley Davidson ultra limited edition there was told me that I could drive an American dream and it was a nice bike to be honest, but not for me at all. My dream bike was when I drove the ducati multistrada 1200s I didn’t want drive any other bike any more the looks the driving the power and the handling it’s just the perfect bike I ever drove in my life now I own one. And I couldn’t be more happy about it it depends by person one like Harley one likes Bmw the one likes Ducati. And it is good that every one has an different choice. It wouldn’t also not be nice if we all would like only one woman though. Enjoy your driving and drive safe for all
I crossed shopped both bikes in 2016. At the time I had a 2012 BMW S1000RR and a 2015 S1000R, so I was leaning toward the XR, and so I rode it first, but I found the vibes in the XR to be unbearable, for me at least. I then rode the Multistrada, and knew it was perfect for me, and how I wanted to use the bike (mostly touring). I’ve got over 20k miles on the Duc now, and I love it. Looking forward to trying the V4 Multistrada.
I really enjoy the difference 0pion 8t really shows and highlights to the reader that no bike is 'better' it's a matter of preference you should do more vs. Vids
Really well presented and interesting, with intelligent input. For me, there ultimately are 4 types of bike,, off-road, on road, track and show off cruisers. I ride a BMW1250R as it is brilliant on the road, which for the majority is of most use. I would not dare take it off road, and not interested in the track, and ride it to enjoy roads at legal speeds and scenery, not to show off (my wife wants me to get a Harley). In terms of performance it competes very well, even on par, with sports bikes, on the road that is. This is a really good on road video. What would I choose?. I am a BMW fan, bit the mutlistrada is such a lovely looking bike. Ultimately, I suppose both will reward a road rider.
This review is top quality! Some on board clips with engine sound on inspiring roads is all that's missing. Still a 5/5 review. Been contemplating the XR since I rode it 2019, I guess I need to test ride the Multi (1200) as well. Just feels so top heavy in the show rooms.
OC idk man, i agree 100% with Brian, i too like a bike that gives me hard honest unfiltered feedback from the road..but on the other hand we have a ducati that for some reason doesn't feel as "clinical" as the BMW, the XR feels a lot like a computer while the ducati well..feels like a bike
OC: I really enjoyed this VS video a lot. I also liked that it was mostly B-roll with voice over so I dont have to listen to as much wind noise / helmet audio.
Very good video. To be fair though, you guys compared a 2020 Multistrada to a 2018 XR. Some things like the dash, suspension and motor changed in the 2020 XR. If it feels "old", it's because it is comparatively old. OC!
O.C. I really like this format, but I think you could improve it. For instance, you could ride to a destination, sit down and have a chat about the bikes, then finish the ride and then go over all the different points at the end (braking, ergonomics, etc.). Really good job, keep it up! Oh, and Team Blue (Sorry, Chase).
OC RED TEAM... One day I'll have my own Multistrada 950s. I really like it! I commented this same thing in your previous review on the Pikes Peak Edition! One day....... ¡Anyway, Great review !
Greetings from Snowy Freezin-Baltic Scotland! I'm liking this style of video guys. Just changed my 2017 Street Triple 765R for a 2015 Multistrada 1200S with a full Titanium Termi system and upmap (LOUD AF!!) My Ducati doesn't have a Quick shifter like my Triumph did tho (Up only and Slip and Assist clutch) I think the Triumph Quick shifters are a happy medium between being too light and too agricultural. It felt smooth, but mechanical if u know what I mean! The new model S1000XR screen is lovely and it doesn't have the asymmetric headlights that play havoc with my OCD! 😂 Multistrada is a thing of beauty tho. 😍
I like this method a lot because it pairs two bikes that should be relatively similar against each other. It's like getting two first rides at once, but with less time. OC- team red
Excellent vid on differences. Definitely two different rides I own a 2017 Multi and have ridden the XR numerous times. Although I love the no dive brake grasps. Multi true character BMW more subtle but easy to ride pure sport bike.
Multistrada looks better but I would go with the BMW. Ducatis in general also give out more heat during stop and go traffic and are more expensive to maintain.
this is great - I think you should put some quantities beyond which one I like more. just to see if you add in another Touring style to compare it too. anyway keep it up cheers.
i have owned 4 Multis and they are great (my track bike is a Ducati) but i traded my Multi in on a S1000XR recently. Much better bike..btw, why are you riding the old XR?
The vibration in the handlebars of the XR is what killed it for me. I had to shake my arms constantly to "wake" them. Team Red won for me, but then again, I have a soft spot for Ducs.
ho how forgot im in the blue team just because in my opinion i just love the inline four motor so smooth and powerful (i ride a Kawasaki Concours) so yeah bmw for me.
90% of the time on my GSXS 1000 from a stop I take off in 2nd with no problem...avoids the quick shifter not hitting the N from 1st - 2nd.....but if there's traffic and need to get out quick it's always 1st gear.
That XR was probably an OEM compressed version for shorter riders. This shorter suspension geometry kills the XR agility. With the basic suspension the XR is not in the same league than the Multistrada, in a very twisty road the Multi cannot keep up with the sharp and precise suspension of the XR.
Someone keeps expecting his bike to be a sport bike whilst the other is sticking to the Tourer. It’s obvious that one has experience with touring and one doesn’t just from their comments.
ride a multi 1200. shorter wheelbase, more performance oriented. Hell if you want to fly out to Venice Italy you can ride my '16 PP on on wild Italian roads next summer!
I'd love to see a review of Kawasaki's sport touring Ninja 1000 if Mountain even has those. It supposedly competes against the S1000XR and the Multistrada
