excellent review! The only thing i would argue, is that the price feels fair for this compared to the MDF. This saves you the painting/detailing time that MDF would need. The houses and walls and whatnot already have very nice prints on them, the thatched roof in particular looks great!
@Erin-pz5nc yes good points. If the benefit of being pre-painted is important to you then these are better value than if you don't mind painting. Overall I think the Battlesystems stuff is great if you're reasonably careful with it
I didn’t do the Kickstarter, but I love how it looks, so I got a lot of it. It’s definitely not easy to put together, and I find being careful, making some extra cuts and gluing where possible helps a bunch! I have mdf terrain, resin terrain, and scratch built, but I’d say this is just different, rather than better or worse. Not painting them is great, but....I like painting! Light and easy to knock over isn’t awesome, but....ease of storage, is! There are certainly pluses and minuses, but I do like the models overall. Thanks for the review!
Thanks for the comment! It sounds like you have a similar view on the terrain to me. Definitely a case of pros and cons with this material- hopefully that comes across in my review. Overall I do really like this terrain and as far as card terrain goes Battlesystems do the best I've seen that's for sure.
Im thinking of pledging their kickstarter for Maladum (not a big fan of that name) which looks pretty awesome. The dungeon set looks particularly cool. They are also saying that maladum is planned to have missions for this village set.
I'm also thinking of pledging for it. I have some of the orignal sci-fi and dungeon terrain but that new stuff looks even better. I haven't played their Core Space game but have heard it's good and Maladum sounds like it's based on that
@@NoProcrastinationMiniatures i haven't played core space either but it had two editions already so maladum ought to be pretty refined. they also seem to have planned it way in advance of the actual kickstarter going live, so not just a lazy afterthought game slapped onto a terrain package.
No problem and thanks for the comment! If you get a set and get stuck on any of the builds I've got a build guide/walk-through of each building- noting any issues I encountered. Also a general build tips video based on the experience of putting the whole set together- that one could be helpful to watch before starting building. If you get a set and have any extra tips / comments / criticisms of it and have time, leave another comment- it'll help other viewers decide if the set is good for them 👍
Very good review. I may have to give this a try. I do have the TTCombat Elf city terrain, and it was not the most fun to build. So much of it is fiddly, and there were a bunch of times that pieces split on the sprue when trying to carefully remove them. 4Ground fantasy, pre-painted buildings are sturdier and were far easier to put together. I feel like Battle Systems is a nice intermediary between those two options.
Thanks for the comment. I've also now tried some of the TT combat stuff and yes it is indeed fiddly! That elf stuff looks particularly fiddly. I'd only say to avoid the battlesystems if you're a really heavy user like a gaming club or if you know you're very heavy handed, otherwise it's a good compromise 👍
@@NoProcrastinationMiniatures TTCombat is by no means poor quality. It was just frustrating and scary to put together. 4Ground pre-painted MDF was super fun (but glue filled) and extremely sturdy.
Great review and detail. I think you were a little stingy though; I would bump all those scores up a couple points. It's all subjective though, of course. I've used alcohol markers to color the edges, and it makes a huge difference. I would have compared these to World Works games as well.
I agree I was probably a bit stingy- mainly because I don't like reviews that give things 10/10 when clearly it's not perfect. Overall I do really like the battlesystems terrain, so I hope that came accross! I've not heard of World Works- will check them out
That was a normal rat ogre but with a warpfire gun! I think this stuff will be good for some games of 8th Ed. I forgot to mention it in the video but a bit of bluetac inside the buildings helps keep them together pretty well
Thanks for you upload. Its a great review! I think maybe the ruin village set is the best bang for your bucks if you want to fill up a small skirmish map right? As i see you get 3 ruines from bigger buildings compared to; for example only 1 boat house with water.
If you've got this terrain I'd love to hear what you agree and disagree with. I purposely didn't watch any other reviews before doing mine, so have no idea if other people have similar views or not! Also, I know I mixed up affect and effect *facepalm* forgive me!
@@kennytew2878 The usual size of the house building 'cubes' is 80cm for ground floor and 100cm for upper floors. Bigger buildings are usually made up of multiple sections so are quite a bit bigger. I haven't got the mill but the Tavern and Blacksmith's are pretty big inside. Enough room for multiple 25mm based models to fit in with room for a bit of furniture and space between models. The buildings are a good scale for 28-32mm scale models. Hope that helps! I like the look of the mill by the way. Let me know what it's like when you've built it 👍
I see this terrain more geared towards RPGs and Skirmishers, not really full-table wargames. Also really important to keep in mind that it is printed = prepainted. As someone who paints minis but doesn’t want to spend too much time on terrain this is a huge time saver. And since time is money that bumps up the value quite a lot since for my use case I would have to compare this to dwarven forge or warlock tiles! Actual gameplay experience from our RPG games: easy and quick to set up. Players don’t care that it’s cardboard. They would care if it was unpainted mdf terrain. The light weight is actually a plus with clumsy players, as you could fling a house across the room and nothing breaks. You can’t do that with a GW lake house. Modularity is also great, quick improvised buildings / mini dungeons are possible. Which again would not be possible with MDF terrain. The closest competitor I see would be Lasers & Dungeons (biggest difference: unpainted, hard plastic sprues) for price point and use case, but that I more geared towards dungeons and interior spaces.
Thanks for the indepth comment. I agree with all of what you're saying. For RPG in particular this terrain is ideal, and for skirmish and wargames there's upsides and downsides (as with any terrain). I do think that it is also good for wargames if you're careful and/or bluetac pieces together a bit. You're right about the 'pre-painted' point. It would take forever to paint mdf terrain to anywhere near the detail of the printed terrain. Hopefully my video review didn't come across as too negative as I really like this terrain overall.
@@NoProcrastinationMiniatures thank you for the reply. I also kind of forgot to mention in my comment that I appreciated your thorough, really well structured and grounded review video :)
Just built my first set of this stuff. The blacksmiths shop, though I have the fantasy village and battlefield on the way. compared to my TTCombat MDF terrain it takes much less time to put together (not even mentioning painting), and is less modular (featuring no indoors... well for my set maybe others have an indoors). The MDF is heftier though and likely to last longer. My general plan has been to use battle systems to get a full board of terrain and then over time replace pieces of the battle systems terrain with resin or MDF or scratch built kits. Im particularly interested in getting a few Tabletop World sets. And down the road, when each battle systems piece is replaced by a more detailed 3d piece then those buildings can join my local gaming stores terrain collection.
That's a good plan. Not sure how long this stuff would last down a gaming club with heavy-handers though! If I won the lottery I'd have a house full of the tabletop world stuff! How did you find building up the Blacksmiths?
@@NoProcrastinationMiniatures It might not last long but also the terrain is cheap enough I might not be too worried about it. Whereas if I put any amount of time into a scratch built piece or bought a tabletop world resin piece I wouldn't want to leave it at the store even if it were sturdier. I've left some cheaper cardstock terrain sets at my store and they've held up remarkably well (there some russian 3d puzzle fantasy sets on amazon, and I bought a set of ruined buildings from GSW that I left at my store and those have held up remarkably well) The blacksmith went together well. A little disappointed the floor pieces just sort of sit underneath them rather than being attached in any way but I think thats my only real disappointment.
Yes, the floating floors are a bit of a dissapointment I agree. I've already decided that there is no way I'll be fully dismantling all the buildings though (just keeping them in sections instead) so I'm fine with glueing a few pieces. In the context of how much miniature gaming costs as a hobby when you really get into it you're right that the cost of populating a table using this terrain is relatively very cost effective compared to most alternatives. Thanks for the comments- let us know how you get on with the other sets. If you have any handy build tips on any of the other buildings in the fantasy village set leave a quick comment on those videos if you have time 👍
This was a terrible review- you are obviously biased. Giving this set a 6/10 for Value for Money?? I noticed you took away a point for feeling it should be cheaper than MDF, but did not give back a point for it not needing to be painted, which for MDF would have cost more time, effort and money. And it is SO much cheaper than Games Workshop or Resin terrain it’s like night and day. Not coming back to this joke of a channel.
I explained my reasons for the scores based on my own opinions of what is important for terrain. You're welcome to have a different opinion. Enjoy the terrain if you buy some. As mentioned in the review, overall I like it.
