Battlestar Galactica Explained in 8 Minutes 

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Thats why I see Detroit Become Human as the unofficial Battlestar Galactica Season 5

@@James-ho5te nah, it’s B&C 0.5, between Caprica and B&C. Granted since Detroit takes place “now”, yeah that works.

So Say we all!

Best series? Naah, Babylon 5 wants to have a word with you. Also, there's the Expanse...

yes, only interested by the transhumanist stuff....

Or fracking this fracking that... Also not one paper photo or a book has corners on it

Yeah, part of why this show was so disappointing, honestly. It's not about the characters you're actually following and it ends on some weird spiritual mumbo-jumbo for shock value that is completely unrelated to the themes of the actually interesting bits. Man, every time I think back to it I get angry all over again. So much wasted potential.

@@mademedothis424 Sorry bro but this is just like..... your opinion. I like me some twists and turns and I think it is great when a story "zooms out" basically showing that the world where all the shenanigans happened - which we were preoccupied with and followed - was indeed bigger than what we thought. Its a very sobering call back to reality, your life, your perspective just so tiny and limited, even if you happens to be a somewhat important person, compared to all whats going on throughout history, your just a tiny part with your tiny story. Btw I belive this type of approach where the world and its happenings are basically the focus of your story instead of a few protagonits opens up a lot of interesting opportunities to tell a story from the perspective of many different protagonist both with happy or tragic ending. A good example would be GoT (except the last two season ofc that was catastrophe) where we got a story we never know how its gonna twist and turn via the obvious lack of designated protagonists. My problem with designated heroes that I just can't get excited by their struggle when it is obvious that they will prevail. That was basically my problem with otherwise excellent shows like SG-1 that after a certain point it just wasn't exciting to seeing them getting into trouble, when it was obvious that they will solve the situation unscaved in their 45 min episode. Now if a story is not about certain protagonists but about a world, then its like history, anything can happen (in a sense) empires may rise and fall, heroes may succeed or fail, you can't pedict what comes so you keep watching.

@@CraftyF0X I mean, yeah, it's very specifically my opinion, but I did dislike it a lot. More than GoT, frankly. Honestly, the change in focus sucks but it's not the worst part. The worst part is that this whole thing that pretended to be a disertation about war, humanity and politics ended up just trying to make the point that God is real and hates robots and isn't all this newfangled tech creepy? If BSG was something is proof of the ability to look smart without having anything interesting to say... and the inability to keep that up for long once you're forced to finish your thought.

Can we throw a little of the writers strike in there?

I don't think the point was to break it, it was to extend it for awhile since already having that technology available would mean the cycle repeating in just a few generations.

reject humanity return to monke

@@ibrahimbatuhancaliskan672 literially BSG ending in a nutshell

Modern Cancel Culture anyone? People who do not learn about and from history are doomed to repeat it. Your job is to teach the next generation the truth - both the good and the bad. Trust me, they're smart enough to know what is right and wrong.

are u telling me people would believe all that crap after 150000 years? how much of your family or religious traditions do you believe are actually true? it would be passed of as myths and superstitions

yep, this is me. no idea

Same

Same here - feel a bit silly now

Same. The show was great but a bunch of puzzle pieces. He put the puzzle together.

I'm not calling you stupid or anything, but how the frak do you miss all of this?

Amen brother, once every few years along with Star Trek TNG and DS9 best sci fi writing ever.

Exactly. I think he left out the part that WE are all part Cylon as well. I think that's what impacted me the most after I was done watching the series.

@@juandangerous Could you explain this?

@@Acetylcholin Sure! **Spoilers ahead** In the final episode, Hera Agathon, the first Cylon-Human hybrid, daughter of Athena and Helo, was found to be the mitochondrial eve of all modern day humans. This means there's Cylon in all of us. You spent much of the show wondering who's a Cylon and who isn't, where it turns out YOU'RE a Cylon. I really enjoyed that!

@@juandangerous It all makes no sense. Tell me if I'm wrong but this is how I see it. First came the humans. They build robotic Cylons. The robotic Cylons then build human Cylons. Aren't the human Cylons human? They can breed by having sex, come out as screaming little nightmares who eat and grow and learn over time to wipe their arses instead of shitting into a nappy, they grow up, have sex, make more and die. If these human Cylones were Terminator-like, flesh grown over a robotic body, looking human but being robots, then I would get it. But these human Cylons aren't robots at all! They have no metal in them, they have DNA, they have genetics. They are purely biological. Why are they at war with the humans then? I really don't get this. Humans build robots, the robots 'cloned' humans, the robots told the cloned humans they are robots and they put them in charge.

Everyone is sus

That was the implication

Oh wow, I like that idea. They could use that for the next reimagine BSG series.

Very cool idea

@Jope Lamp that’s why it’s called “headcanon.” By definition it’s not the reality of the show.

Oh wow

And even if they did, it's not hard to teach their children "Hey, you know that robot labor force we built? Don't treat them like slaves and help them grow into healthy sentient beings, please."

Or even "we got to this point now. and we have ai friends so know infinite forever antagonism isnt guaranteed. what if we created more human-like ai and raised them with love and care, so even if there were evil ai, there would be ai with the full spectrum of existence of humanity too".

All that did was doom them to repeat the same mistake again it like destroying history because some idiot think it will destroy communism or fascism because instead of learning why their mistake and why they failed because even if you destroy communism or facisim it will happen again somehow idea are bullet prroof

@@sc149 That just sounds like having children but with extra steps

It is like we currently have on earth: "Please dont design an anti human bio weapon that under certain conditions could wipe us out" We already have the basic technology for it and statistically speaking no matter the circumstances there is a chance somewhere it will be done. It is not a question of if but when. The same with nukes, though to a lesser degree ecause a single nuke cant wipe out huanity. We would have to get a retaliation strike going and i hope nobody will do that.

@@michaelandreipalon359 Whos pls go and stay go.

Lmao. I was really hoping it explained Starbuck. But whatever. Still satisfied.

Yeh, at that point it became sadly quite obvious they were just making up shit on the go cuz they never planned out the series. Still great tho.

@@termitreter6545 The ending could be summarized with three words: "God did it." So laaaame

Yeah, a friend made me watch it (and i enjoyed it), constantly promising "this is not like ´Lost´ - there arent any loose ends - just watch it through to the end, you´ll see.". And then Kara literally vanishes into thin air without any explanation. I was like "How is this not the loosest end ever?" and she´s like "Well, she´s an angel". Okayyyy... different standards, i guess.

Remember, this was released near the end of conventional network tv. Show would have been better (and more coherent) if Rob was allowed to work without all the garbage constraints the networks put on shows back then.

@@willzsportscards oh I see!

And yeah, I was pretty confused too...the storytelling is pretty convoluted and not presented that well to be honest.

same

it was easier to follow binge watching I think... as complex as the plot was, it was still easier to follow than "Lost", and or american politics

kobol...new cap n earth...ur welcome. lol

Well it does achieve one thing: It takes far longer for the humans to repeat the cicle know. Just a reminder the colonials started to reintroduce small ai into their military vessels only 40 years after the cylon war because they thought it was "safer" now. The only thing leaving the technology would achieve is shortening the time till the next apocalypse. It is similar to nukes. Everybody knows they are bad and a major problem and thread to humanity, still they are beeing build. Or bio and chemical weapons. Taking away the ech garantees a certain amount of time where there is no dooming apocalypse, nothing more. It could break the cicle technically do to clearing the startingboard of the human civilization back close to 0, so the chances of a different developmet are higher, but that is only theoretical :)

I dunno who's quote this is, but it goes something like this: "those who do not learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them, but those who learn incorrectly from their mistakes are doomed". Lee chose the safer route of possibly repeating history rather than breaking the Cycle of Time in a way which doomed the human race

I still maintain (with some heat and at length, if allowed) that the last episode is pants-on-head stupid. The whole reason the cycle repeats is that everything gets destroyed and nobody gets to learn from their mistakes- all the records are just garbled legends and oral tradition. They've got the whole thing down in writing and on computers and they just YEET it all into the sun. If they'd just rebuilt from where they were, on a brand new planet with all that tech and infallible, reliable records of what went wrong last time you'd have to do some pretty desperate plot gymnastics to make the cycle repeat again. That, and no way would civilised people with children to raise and protect throw away advanced medical and weapons technology because it might cause a problem in a few millennia.

@@Majere613 Yep, Imagine if they left the BSG parked on the back side of the moon with a simple message. "With Great Power comes, DEATH...... DON'T BUILD AI". Because at that technological point to get to the moon, computers and AI would be in their infancy and a warning then thru discovered tech might be heeded.

Is it giving it away if u lose the manufacturing & technical capabilities to replicate it..? When you lose control of the factory that produces your FTL drives & you lose the people who possess the technical skills to create FTL drives.. You will lose the ability to reproduce it till somebody later with technical skill rediscovered how to make it with the manufacture capacity to recreate it.. What humanity needs is a Failsafe program, a way to preserve its technology blueprints, along with preserving the technical education (Write it down maybe).. So when it’s thrown off it’s Factory planet or it’s Factory ship is destroyed it can still utilize the technology once manufacturing infrastructure is set back up.. Or just stop running so we can end the cycle. >;) Learn or Adapt or be Destroyed

It's human nature. And if we changed our DNA, changed our body, would we still be human ?

@@Kavriel damn that's deep

History doesn't repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme.

I think one of the messages the show tells about humanity is not necesarily about humanity learning an over all lesson or about how to be better people or species. BSG repedtly says that humanity is stuck in this endless cycle under the control of GOD (or whatever entity that is guiding humanity to its repetive faith) that forces huamity to repeat this cycle of life, evolution and, death. To reach the top only to fall back down to the bottom. I've always took the ending of the show as the strugle of survial been the human experience. To find new beginning in tragic ends. The cylons are pretty much (in a sense) a live reflection of humanity. To refelct on your self and question if one is truly worthy of surviving, been alive and, giving life. But that is just my own outake.

there's also the factor of heritage, how can they learn if they don't have a record of it. the show just blows over this by saying it was forgotten

@Jope Lamp WTF are you babbling about?

It’s true that kara decoded the music, not the final five. BUT, kara did die in the storm. The kara that returns to the fleet is a messenger with kara’s memories, so she is not resurrected but more like “copied”. This version of kara is similar to the imaginary Baltar and Caprica Six messengers, who have conversations with them inside their mind and fantasies. They can be either divine beings like angels or aliens of a different highly advanced race (this is open for interpretation. I tend to believe they are angels/messengers from God because of the final scene of Baltar and Caprica in New York, where he makes an odd remark that suggests a personal relationship with God. )

Kara was the son of Daniel I think

@@Jeffros I like some of your explanation but not all of it...By The Gods!

Exactly. It was obvious the writers of this show followed the soap opera model of making up shit as you go in order to create drama with "interesting" characters. I'm finding a lot of new or current shows do this bullshit where antagonists switch sides then aid the protagonists and vice versa. People used to laugh at crap like that on soap operas where a character who seemingly died somehow comes back into the picture.

And here we are...is God/The Gods real...no real...good question...

You forgot about Grogu.

@@jameslay1489 he’s quoting The Office.

Literally came here from that episode lmao

bears beets battlestar galactica

Not Mordor. Everyone knows the ring had to go back to the Genesis planet! ;-)

It used to have a different name?

@@a.g.m8790 Oh sweet summer child. The Channel was simple named "Sci Fi Channel", then "SciFi" and 2009 they decided that "SyFy" wouldn't be as lame as "SciFi", because "SciFi" is generic, due to its Sensational spelling. Although I wont give them a Penny anymore after they canceled Dark Matter with the only reason that a bought TV Series had more viewers than their own US Productions. Which isn't that surprising tbh.

@@DaroriDerEinzige I always thought SyFy was stupid to be honest.

They used to care about quality. Now they've gone least effort for the profit margin.

The recent show Resident Alien starring Alan Tudyk is actually good. So one spark from the syfy channel.

100% agree. Lazy Deus Ex Machina over and over again. Mini series was great, first episode was perfect. Then, slowly, at first, it headed down hill. Then faster and faster with each episode. The worst part was listen to the podcasts after each new episode came out; it seemed Moore understood this. He kept saying 33 was the best episode, they needed to return to that. Instead he went further and further away. He was attracted to Battlestar because of the idea of a microcosm of humanity in a rag tag fleet, and the idea of a aircraft carrier in space. But he clearly got bored by this somewhere in the second season and when further and further into theological mumbo-jumbo. It still breaks my heart.

Head writer says Voyager was stupid because they never explained where they got all their new shuttles from. Then ass-pulls everything else in the show. Hybrid baby blood cures cancer? Sure. XO Adama served with in the last war now a Cylon? Fuck the timeline if it doesn't make sense. Snort another line and now Starbuck's an angel.

@@Adamgouldscot it felt like the writers strike saw a change in the writing room. It felt like they clearly had a direction that changed around the New Caprica time jump. The original idea was abandoned and they just started doing random shit. My understanding is there wasn't a lot of turnover so it's basically the same writers just losing the goddamn thread.

@@gregorymuir1985 there that actually had the tech to build them. But this BSG. The gun switch never made sense for how do you resupply ammo?

@@Adamgouldscot Are you using Deus Ex Machina ...... ironically or ..... do you know what it mean s?

And since they didn't leave any warnings about what happens when you create AI they made a repeat of the cycle all but inevitable

@@bluemountain4181 the only reply I can think of to that is that there WERE “ prophets” along the technological evolutionary road ; just as there are those today who warn our leaders about several dangerous technology paths they are taking..they are just being ( or HAVE been) ignored. Today there are many voices trying to warn us against trying a social/ political path that promises all things to all people “ free”. They argue that the path has proved disastrous wherever it has been implemented. They are being shouted down today as crazies and deplorables. I fear our Republic’s time has reached its end and the warnings of Franklin and Jefferson and Reagan have gone unheeded. May GOD bless our “ bright shining light on a hill” one more time..

I gathered that the Final Five were in reference to being the literal last five survivors of the 13th tribe

Probably a happy coincidence. I thought it had originally meant “the Final Five models to reveal themselves”.

Final five to be revealed on the show because they made it up on the spot. The original plan was 12 different models but they changed it for a reason I forget.

yeah I stopped watching the show in the middle of the season 3 premiere, it just lost me

Yeah I totally agree I lost interest when it became apparent, very early on, the writers had no idea where the show was going and were winging it. A small force clevely and desperatley evading a superior foe is compelling tv. When the enemy are kind of chasing them but not really and vaguely believe in a plan but not really that's just nothing. I respect Daniels opinion but the best scifi tv show of all time?

@@darunealbane Yeah, don't get me wrong, assigning a motivation to the enemy can be really good but "kill all the humans because they oppressed us and might do so again" is a solid motivation! The Cylons didn't need Borg Queening.

The Starbuck B.S. was a real kick to the nads.

@@wrayday7149 "I know these things for REASONS!"

I thought it was named after the COBOL programming language...

Too many of the characters on the new BSG were so self centered that they were not only unlikable, but unwatchable. For instance Baltar would rather destroy the entirety of mankind than own up to his own failings, admit he was deceived, and tell the truth. Who is that self absorbed? How many of the people in the survivor fleet did nothing to help anyone but themselves? The new BSG had so many unlikable wastes of humanity I almost found myself rooting for the Cyclons to end them. At least in the original BSG the majority of people worked together and sacrificed to make it work, there the Cylons were the indisputable enemy unlike here where the crew itself was as much an enemy as the Cylons in many cases.

The ending hacked me off...you telling me Adama was going to live in the wilderness hunting rabbits with a spear...Thrace disappearing pushed me over the edge...considering what went before I think they could have wrapped it up a little better.

@@cjhepburn7406 the fact that it was not the perfect ending was great though. I couldn't stand the president but when she passed, it was sad and it was sad for the admiral. Apollo's ending was good because he finally freed himself of the responsibility he didnt want and Starbuck, I didnt like her but the way she ended was good too. It was all bittersweet and not what we expected but good none the less. It's always hard to watch a show you love come to an end.

@Jope Lamp We'd be fine if they quit sucking them out of the womb.

I couldn't get past the hysterical woman the entire first season.Way too much agenda in SGU,had promise.

@Deerheart Could be both. Both are things I'd like recorded on some type of Pedia. Potential future-pedia.

Honestly I think they noticed that they've made a big mistake and were about to lose viewers so they brought her back. The show isn't bad but not exactly perfect and quite a few plotholes need to be overlooked but whatever.

Starbuck committed suicide by throwing his Viper on that planet, when it reappears, what we are seeing is no longer Starbuck, but a divine action to guarantee the survival of the human species. God sent an angel in the form of Starbuck so she could take the fleet to planet Earth (she was the one who typed the jump coordinates, based only on a song that was in her head)

You and me both. I don’t know where he got any of this shit

@@jerod5636 u weren't paying attention

@@miguelmarrero4597 It’s possible man. I will admit I fell asleep a few times. Who knows. I still enjoyed the show.

I rewatching it and still haven’t come across this plot 🤣🤣🤣

Seriously, if you watch the series properly you see / hear all of this. Especially in S3&S4.

best character ever from an edonistic egocentric ass**le to a humble human being

@@Xelemich To be totally honest at first I didn't like "new" Baltar, having grown up addicted to original BSG like most back then were addicted to Star Wars, but by the end of the "New Caprica" arc I was convinced Ron Moore and Co. had pulled a perfect fast one bait and switch on the audience. Adama, the Cylons, all the other cast, even the Galactica itself were all just there to support the story of Baltar. And the ending to Baltar's story arc was perfect, when he broke down on "new" Earth, and told Caprica Six that he knew about farming and she just said "I know" - she accepted him for what he really was - not anyone special or important, but just a farmer. That's top notch character development and storytelling.

game of thrones?

@@knwr Yeah, GoT definitely stole the trophy for taking a great show and destroying it before the end. BSG did suffer from going kinda "space soap opera" though. The walking Dead also went soap opera very quickly. I think Breaking Bad was the only "great 21st century show" to stay on course till the end, with only a few errant episodes. BSG feels like a 3 season story where the 3rd season got fluffed up into a season 3 + 4. GOT was a 10 season story where seasons 6-10 were crammed (poorly) into 6 & 7 after effectively firing the creative source.

That's pretty simple. She had found her dead body because she died but it was not she because she is alive. How could she find anything if she's dead. So she's alive. But there's her dead body, which means she's dead. So she's dead and she's alive. STARBUCK IS A CAT proved.

She split up and turned into coffee.

@@ac4185 John Coffey?

Worse acting, horribly stretched out story lines and this sensation that the makers of The Expanse just don't know where to take the show. One season feels like a space opera, the next like a serial drama. It's just weird. Really, the only cool things about The Expanse are its worldbuilding and hard sci-fi technology, which are taken straight from the books.

I don't think she comes back a cylon and she stays dead I think by the time they get to second earth. I think the writers wrote a clark moment. The one about advance technology everybody quotes. The idea of technological heaven. Gods at the end of time (our and other sentient races descendants) ect. Technology and evolution states left over from previous civilization. It's a common theme in scifi (at least the type I read). The two entities that look like two of the human cylons machinations and musing seem like meddling from a post physical intelligence to me. Possibly a unstable time loop caused by broken causality to make sure they are created. Hollywood is fawned of time loops. Interstellar for example.

Season 4 was completely messed up. Initially things really dragged and later they added plot twist after plot twist.

It’s like the writers got extremely lazy but overall the show was great if not one of the best ever

@@Mannyr-bu7qv If I remember correctly at some point during the BSG remake there was a writers strike which is why one season is shorter and badly written and also split into two parts.