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Battletome Blades of Khorne 2023 - Full Review 

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@briochepanda
@briochepanda Год назад
Nah, Khorne would want you to use the bag of kittens as an adorable flail with which to bludgeon people who don't like kittens into red paste.
@kolari8971
@kolari8971 Год назад
Hello yes we've released a battletome for the super fast glass cannon god, they're tanks now. We also made a book for the straightforward combat god, they're super fast and don't do any damage unless you overlap 17 different aura buffs. Please spend £500 on an army immediately.
@assistantref5084
@assistantref5084 Год назад
And we took most of the fight on death out of the straightforward combat god book, while giving it to the fast glass cannon god book instead.
@TretBurner
@TretBurner Год назад
Blood for the blood god !
@TheHonestWargamer
@TheHonestWargamer Год назад
#murderolls
@OldManRogers
@OldManRogers Год назад
Skulls for the skull throne 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@gluedfingers4498
@gluedfingers4498 Год назад
GW: All right, we need to write the new Khorne book. Our chaos god of bloodshed, murder, war, violence and hatred. I was thinking we make them really techy, hit like wet noodles and as hard as warm butter. I guess it's a good thing I got into them because they just look so dang cool.
@terrandfw4681
@terrandfw4681 Год назад
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@mathewm7661
@mathewm7661 Год назад
*Sees the way the meta is heading and completely changes their tune*
@40KWill
@40KWill Год назад
I can see many players will take the Command Entourage with the prayer upgrade to give double prayer options.
@WardenOfTerra
@WardenOfTerra Год назад
This guy is such an honest wargamer. Respect.
@jontyhugh1080
@jontyhugh1080 Год назад
I'm glad my whole daemon army doesn't need to rely on mortal hero's anymore. It ruined a whole theme for me and was what held back the old battletome so much.
@gnaleinad
@gnaleinad Год назад
Watching this video again after discussing with my pals.. This is the most out of turn sequence melee army in AoS. So many tricks to combo. The potential for so many amazing unstoppable tricks is ridiculous. Interestingly, Slaanesh battletome has some good counters. To all those hating this battletome, complaining and saying that's is not powerful enough, you are so blind. Blade of Khorne is now really powerful. To those who can see and collect this army, a great time is coming. Top tier army incoming.
@TheHonestWargamer
@TheHonestWargamer Год назад
Do I express that you can in the video? I hope so
@cmleibenguth
@cmleibenguth Год назад
Agreed They got a great glow up
@TheEr910
@TheEr910 Год назад
I like what I've seen of this book. Time to put my Exalted Deathbringer with Runeshield on the shelf. *sniff*
@Lord_Nielsen
@Lord_Nielsen Год назад
Hey Rob does this mean a blood thirster can be a priest and chant on himself to pull units into combat or to double move itself? That’s wild!
@TheHonestWargamer
@TheHonestWargamer Год назад
Yes
@eshubabadidi_974
@eshubabadidi_974 Год назад
better yet, cast the double move on the thirster with a slaughterpriest, then bloodbind with the thirster afterwards! (unless there is some weird wording that stops it)
@Daidalus2
@Daidalus2 Год назад
​@@eshubabadidi_974 + you could invest one bp to make an additional normal move
@aaronravenwood2039
@aaronravenwood2039 Год назад
Hot take, I feel like Bloodlords faction is actually somewhat decent. Bloodletters are a bit expensive now, but they gained a lot of value too. Plus with the amount of recursion tech they have now I'm sure they could prove to be good.
@zarozinia1168
@zarozinia1168 Год назад
yeah and plus it's not bloodletter host keyworded it's just bloodletter so it would work on bloodcrushers too
@jamesguillette3878
@jamesguillette3878 Год назад
@@zarozinia1168 not just bloodcrushers, also it includes skull cannons and most of the foot heroes, like skulltaker and bloodmaster edit: seems like skull cannon lost the bloodletter keyword this edition, which means its out. maybe an FAQ will change this
@TheGainfulGamer
@TheGainfulGamer Год назад
Bloodletters are 180 for essentially a 2x reinforced unit. So as far as I am concerned, we just got a buff for a discount of 40 points
@jonathanantoine6391
@jonathanantoine6391 Год назад
Yep Bloodletters look quite good. They should stick around somewhat and dish out. 5+ MW makes them scary in my opinion.
@claysimpkins7490
@claysimpkins7490 Год назад
​​@@jonathanantoine6391 agreed, i hated lumineth for this reason although lumineth would reroll to fish out 15 mortal wounds.
@olafolafsson2755
@olafolafsson2755 Год назад
I like skarbrand more now. He has less dmg but in the old tome he needed so much support and synergies. Now he just does his own thing which feels better. 5+ ward vs range is great imho and was the big weakness of this army. You can screen with cheap and or tanky units quite effectively so the loss of the ward save in close combat is legit. Also its great that you dont need to spam bloodthirsters now. You cam play whatever you want. This book feels awesome and khorny aswell. I think khorne should not be just a timmy army the Brute Brainless khorne warriors is a theme but it is not the only aspect. As a god of blood and war the prayers and also fighting shenanigans should be the thing that a khorne army is capable off.. There is more to khorne than just berzerking rage. Ogres orks or gargants can fill that slot better.
@FrederikLionheart
@FrederikLionheart Год назад
Small correction (maybe I didn't see it get addressed) is the Locus of Fury ONLY affects daemons.
@gimiak
@gimiak Год назад
Thanks. It looks like a nice written battle tome.
@decokane1019
@decokane1019 Год назад
If you put the realmgore ritualist on the blood shrine and then desecrate it (terrain) and have a reinforced bloodreaver unit as a guard tha seems like a substantial (if immobile) threat for not many points.
@CorbinatorLoL
@CorbinatorLoL Год назад
Let's do this!!!
@acrylicchemist1432
@acrylicchemist1432 Год назад
Pouring one out for my kitbashed khorne dragon, but I am super excited to try out these new rules.
@willd5328
@willd5328 Год назад
Go on, into the river then.
@acrylicchemist1432
@acrylicchemist1432 Год назад
@@willd5328 hahaha, does Lake Michigan work?
@willd5328
@willd5328 Год назад
@@acrylicchemist1432 big river
@d.c.4545
@d.c.4545 Год назад
Can someone explain to me why the khorne dragon isn't legal anymore? Is it just the points being over 1000, so it can't be used in 2000pt games? Or was the monstrous arcanum finally changed?
@willd5328
@willd5328 Год назад
@@d.c.4545 it’s “legended” meaning it’s no longer legal for matched play. You can, of course, use it when hanging out with your buds in the club, drinkin bottles of bub, however.
@sailorpete1457
@sailorpete1457 Год назад
Which of the two new chaos books du you like the most? The Slaanesh one or Blades of khorne? ty for doing this videos its been a pleasure listening too
@RadioFreeHammerhal
@RadioFreeHammerhal Год назад
You know in the past I haven't really enjoyed your content, but I always believe in giving people chances in the future to win me over. You have definitely done that with this one! Rock on my dude
@davidcampbell621
@davidcampbell621 Год назад
Bloodletters seem interesting to me? Their base damage is better, and their buffs are both easier to apply, and cheaper than what gutrippaz have access to. 2"/3+/3+/-1/1 is a decent base profile, unlike gutrippaz who need to choose between reach or 3s and can't get rend. The real spice for bloodletters I think is actually curse, so you can ping mortals on hit rolls and on wound rolls.
@kolari8971
@kolari8971 Год назад
Curse is 6s to hit, and you can't stack 2 different 6 to hit effects
@davidcampbell621
@davidcampbell621 Год назад
@@kolari8971 for some reason I thought decapitating blow was on 6s to wound.
@davidfortin6437
@davidfortin6437 Год назад
Really like your new focus on content on your channel. Super good review. I resubbed. Thanks for creating this.
@TheHonestWargamer
@TheHonestWargamer Год назад
Awesome, thank you! I'm making a huge commitment to quality content so glad it's noticed
@davidfortin6437
@davidfortin6437 Год назад
Yeah man, definitely. I had unsubbed because your previous vid structure was more of a random discussion with friends and having fun, which is all good, but it was difficult for me to get the info I wanted inside that huge discussion. Your recent focus on creating more structured content, while keeping your fun sense of humor, makes it super entertaining AND educational.
@Marty-dm3kc
@Marty-dm3kc Год назад
So keen!
@KP-ek7qu
@KP-ek7qu Год назад
Great review ❤
@KamenRiderGreed
@KamenRiderGreed Год назад
I think a generic Mighty Lord of Khorne with 10 Skullreapers in a Galletian Command Battallion could be very interesting. Because the Mighty Lord's Command Ability would pull the Slullreapers into Always Strikes First. At least in this current season. Plus I like that Slullreapers have Curse built in. If you give them +1 attack from either the Bloodsecrator or the Blood Tithe Table, they're making 50 attacks with Daemonforged Weapons and 6's are mortals in addition. That's tasty damage even at Rend 1. I don't play Khorne myself, so maybe to a Khorne veteran they're nothing special, but I think Skullreapers are pretty solid. (Edit: I thought you could +4 Rally Khorgoraths, since you can reinforce them and had a point about that. But you cannot, Bloodsecrator limits it to 3 or less wounds.)
@kolari8971
@kolari8971 Год назад
Can’t 4+ rally a Khorgorath it has more than 3 wounds
@KamenRiderGreed
@KamenRiderGreed Год назад
@@kolari8971 Oh shoot, you right. I'll have to get rid of that.
@jasonmclaughlin5647
@jasonmclaughlin5647 Год назад
I need honest wargamer merch with the tagline "Yeet them in"
@skaldofepics9380
@skaldofepics9380 Год назад
I know this is a Khorne review, but I think it would have been hilarious if GW gave Thanquol the ability it accidentally summon skarbrand like he did in the old world lol
@40KWill
@40KWill Год назад
He still can on a natural roll of 13
@malickmeziani_FreePalestine
@@40KWill with 2d6
@40KWill
@40KWill Год назад
@@malickmeziani_FreePalestine indeed. Just like the old Dreaded Thirteenth Spell
@calknight9578
@calknight9578 Год назад
Where can i find the Pdf?
@jamesvaldez185
@jamesvaldez185 Год назад
Multiple BT's are still a thing, although expensive. You can get up to 4 BT's swinging first in your turn!
@kolari8971
@kolari8971 Год назад
yeah but 2 of them average less than 5 damage...
@morrikai
@morrikai Год назад
blood letters is like gutrippas that can get 2+ to hit 2+ to wound with rend -2 walk twice + d6 and than charge 3d6, so they are like gutrippas but they can get into melee and will hit like a brick
@jonasandersson5838
@jonasandersson5838 Год назад
And a survivability mechanic that isn't a Wall of text and Morale of a goblin
@cmleibenguth
@cmleibenguth Год назад
Blood Reavers die in even bigger droves than Gutrippers and don't deal mortal wounds (esp buffed mortal wounds via Sludgeraker) This isn't to say Kruleboyz are secretly great, just that you may not be properly taking in all the synergies they have Kruleboyz, atm, are more over costed than fundamentally bad
@mjpegasus1079
@mjpegasus1079 Год назад
Diagnosis Murder Rolls
@jameswilson6328
@jameswilson6328 Год назад
this is a great review especially as i have 50 blood warrioirs, 50 reavers and 7 khorgaraths! lol
@TheHonestWargamer
@TheHonestWargamer Год назад
LETS GOOOOOO. #MURDERROLLS
@mrmatt2466
@mrmatt2466 8 месяцев назад
someone bulk brought the half a starter set 😂
@slickmackey620
@slickmackey620 Год назад
@HonestWG can you explain me how the Bloodsecrator Blood-banner thingy works?
@assistantref5084
@assistantref5084 Год назад
Sorry if I missed where this was addressed in the video, but what's the ally pool? Can you take STD cultists (which are undivided) as allies, or are you just locked out of taking those completely?
@cmleibenguth
@cmleibenguth Год назад
Coalition You take them as coalition, which doesn't use up ally points
@assistantref5084
@assistantref5084 Год назад
@@cmleibenguth STD cultists have the undivided mark, so they can't be taken as coalition. I got a look at the book earlier and bizarrely the allies list is only BoC, and only units that can be taken as BoC coalition, which is completely redundant. It feels like a typo honestly, the other 3 Chaos Gods all have access to STD on the allies list for units that don't qualify under Coalition (and that don't have traditionally opposed marks).
@raigomander2817
@raigomander2817 Год назад
Thanks for another great review! I think this book looks great, mostly better than the previous one. A lot of people don't realise how much an experienced player can squeeze out of these rules.
@markpandelidis2079
@markpandelidis2079 Год назад
Bloodreavers don't get 5+ ward. Only demon units get 5+ against shooting.
@TheHonestWargamer
@TheHonestWargamer Год назад
Thanks babe
@markpandelidis2079
@markpandelidis2079 Год назад
The BTP table is a bit odd. Probably should have been: 1 spell eater 2 let the blood flow 3 murderlust 4 brass meteor 5 frenzy 6 rising hatred 7 heads must roll 8 triumph
@Coldsweden
@Coldsweden Год назад
Man reapers of vengence really went from the best freaking thing in the book to absolute hot garbage, also loosing all the spice on the bloodthirsters really feels bad.
@cmleibenguth
@cmleibenguth Год назад
This is typical GW Take the over performer of previous book and nerf to the ground in New book Ex: 2.0 SCE did a lot with Anvils of Heldenhammer for double shoot and double fight In 3.0? The Anvils are hot garbage
@millenniumxdtvmediaandarts1679
The Skullreapers are great when you add attacks, end up with 6 attacks each. Make them a unit of 10 and thats 60 attacks with a chance of mortals in addition. They are a meat grinder.
@kolari8971
@kolari8971 Год назад
compare them to the vast majority of good hammers in game, and they do less damage while still using multiple overlapping buffs
@matthewpink123
@matthewpink123 Год назад
Even at that level you just described, they are at the output of STD chosen, with far more moving parts + investment.
@kolari8971
@kolari8971 Год назад
@@matthewpink123 Unbuffed, 10 Reapers do barely 50% of the damage of 10 Chosen, 66% vs a 2+ save. You have to give them +1 attacks, +1 rend and +1 to hit before they're even equal to 10 unbuffed Chosen against most saves (and at this point slightly overperform vs a 2+) However you give Chosen any form of buff, either AoA or Daemonic Power (which they'll always have) and it's literally impossible for Skullreapers to match them, regardless of buffs stacked
@TheThestudent52
@TheThestudent52 Год назад
I'm consumed by the idea of playing a full house full hero GORETIDE GORECHOSEN army of 8 guys, one of them Dromm with his own gorechosen. Then 30 reavers and blood Warriors and wrathmongers. The gorechosen combos sound very fun
@Lodorn
@Lodorn Год назад
13:30 Why is the depravity table in slaanesh not connected to their summons? Don't you lose the effects of the passive buffs, if you drop below their threshold by spending depravity on summons?
@MrZippidydoodahh
@MrZippidydoodahh Год назад
I've watched several previews for this book, and I think I'm just understanding it with you. Thank you for repeating rules and interactions. I'm looking to play Khorne. Brain not big. Tell me stuff good
@TheHonestWargamer
@TheHonestWargamer Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@azoxystrobin
@azoxystrobin Год назад
Yes they are currently endless spells. Geedubs missed an opportunity to make tie them to the blood tithe rather be cast by priests. It's the same thing as endless spells. If they just appeared after a certain level of blood tithe they'd be interesting. Where are the special monstrous actions, or the heroic actions ? What bothers me is that Khorne armies kind of have to take priests now. As many as possible really. The "warrior heros" are mostly pointless. Note that the bleeding icon says no effect on Khorne units...it doesn't say "friendly Khorne units" which is quite amusing. Pile on the extra attacks? What extra attacks? there's a once per game from the Bloodsecrator who is just useful enough to be taken in a list despite not being a priest, good old reliable crutch is here to stay. Then there's the wholly within 8" of wrathmongers, and 20 Blood warriors don't fit, let alone 30 Blood reavers. The +1 attack for 8 Blood tithe might as well not even be printed, you'll never get to 8, you'll have spent it for useful effects up to 4....any more blood tithe than that will be going on a 20 pack of bloodletters or a bloodthirster. The arcane tome shouldn't be available to anything with the Khorne keyword...Most Khorne players won't even want to put the arcane tome on anything...Hopefully it will be FAQ'd Just like Khorne players won't summon Riptooth just to sacrifice the goodest boy for 2 measly blood tithe. Note that Valkia is still only mortal, not daemon. But worse still is that she didn't get a new model. Skullreapers are still bad...they could at least ignore ward saves to make them a little different... All in all, yes this book is an improvement over the previous one, then again it didn't need much. Basically they've changed all the fight on death and MWs on death by the murder rolls, that's good. They've bumped the spell ignore up to a 5+ because it's pointless quite often (armies will be casting buffs on themselves, not on our dudes) It might be better, but it's an uninspired copy/paste of the previous book just like the one before it was. What a disappointment....
@kolari8971
@kolari8971 Год назад
We absolutely will use Arcane Tome & Riptooth sacrifice, this book needs all the help it can get
@zachboyce9728
@zachboyce9728 Год назад
I think missed that the boomthirster is 3+d3 damage, makes it quite a bit spicier
@TheHonestWargamer
@TheHonestWargamer Год назад
One of them is. I dont think it's good
@zachboyce9728
@zachboyce9728 Год назад
@@TheHonestWargamer Granted haha. The hitting on 4s is a blessing for all of us who don’t play khorne.
@brenininverno7296
@brenininverno7296 Год назад
@@zachboyce9728 damage wise hes far worse, he lost the double tap and the 1 rr
@Pershoreify
@Pershoreify Год назад
Nice book review mate, where'd you get it?
@TheHonestWargamer
@TheHonestWargamer Год назад
The shit book shop
@malherbemaxime7936
@malherbemaxime7936 Год назад
@@TheHonestWargamer this made me laugh more than it should have
@jonasandersson5838
@jonasandersson5838 Год назад
​@@TheHonestWargamer frequent flyer there?
@adamsboringvids
@adamsboringvids Год назад
What are the cheapest chaos battlescrolls you can get chopped up for tithe?
@saschagotemann1570
@saschagotemann1570 Год назад
I guess the best options are Chaos Spawn (70 in StD and 65 in BoC) or Razorgors (65). As single models, they can die after a few chants giving an extra BT. Other interesting options are Tarantulos Brutes and Splintered Fang as they can revive models. Or you just go with Skarr Bloodwrath, sacrifice him and revive him anywhere you need.
@kolari8971
@kolari8971 Год назад
You'll just use Reavers at 80pts/10 most of the time. There are slightly cheaper options elsewhere but they don't fulfill a second function outside of Blood Tithe, like Reavers do
@rickroberts7312
@rickroberts7312 Год назад
Isn't slanesh depravity the summoning ability for slanesh that is basically like bloodtithe points?
@kennypalmer8971
@kennypalmer8971 Год назад
That would be correct. Slaanesh and khorne both have to weigh out having more buffs from their points or summoning with their points
@jefferymartens6303
@jefferymartens6303 Год назад
The 8" range for the ward save also stops silly arguments over whether or not deep striking units shut off the ward save at 9". I still would obviously have preferred it be at 3", but that would be too thematic and fun.
@jefferymartens6303
@jefferymartens6303 Год назад
@@Archkyrie11 hence why it's silly
@jefferymartens6303
@jefferymartens6303 Год назад
Yeah, obviously. It's a dumb range and a throwaway comment for the algorithm. Hence, silly.
@Greg-uc7jp
@Greg-uc7jp Год назад
Hashtag murder roll
@andrewkolansky5348
@andrewkolansky5348 Год назад
I wish there was something to shut down unleash hell, and that hero’s and monsters were worth 2 blood tithe. I’d also like to see some sort of extra hero battalion or something. So many hero’s not viable in competitive scene.
@FearLegion-co8gg
@FearLegion-co8gg Год назад
The new bloodletters.. I can see a group of 30 bloodletters with 3 bloodthirsters and a nearby group of wrathmongers will be absolutely disgusting. Take the bloodlords slaughterhost and they are a very solid choice. I can see a list around 3 thirsters, a bloodmaster and 30 bloodletters being a meta comp; Unless im wrong about this, but that also may mean you can make almost your entire army alwasy fight first on everything on your turn; fighting one after another.. i.e. bloodmaster > bloodletters, and Wrath of Khorne thirster > Another thirster and have the third thirster take halo of blood.
@ageofsigmar89
@ageofsigmar89 Год назад
Give a BT arcane tome with flaming weapon. So He will Do ok dmg. Fluffwise say: He goes super Sajin and channels his rage in his not so mighty axe... xD
@Fotta1989
@Fotta1989 Год назад
Thanks, Rob! BFTBG
@mileskovarik
@mileskovarik Год назад
Khorne!
@gnaleinad
@gnaleinad Год назад
Isn't anyone gonna comment that the Bloodsecrator review isn't correct? It's no longer an aoe aura of 16".. There's no range written! So it's the whole battlefield
@TheHonestWargamer
@TheHonestWargamer Год назад
I got that wrong thanks!! Appreciate it
@adamsboringvids
@adamsboringvids Год назад
Dunno why but I found this thumbnail really funny
@TheHonestWargamer
@TheHonestWargamer Год назад
Hahah reverse of the other one. Surely that's great meme energy
@adamsboringvids
@adamsboringvids Год назад
@@TheHonestWargamer sorta reminds me of the Drake meme, but I think you’d be rejecting Khorne and saying Slaanesh is my jam.
@ltdybdahl
@ltdybdahl Год назад
Played against new Khorne the other day. Their prayers are like spells you can't unbind. #nomagic 🙃That said. Seems like a cool army to play. Actually super techy
@lifecycle3751
@lifecycle3751 Год назад
Wololo OP
@andrewsimmons2711
@andrewsimmons2711 Год назад
Mighty skull crushers! More deamon more better
@TheHonestWargamer
@TheHonestWargamer Год назад
#murderrolls
@fraenguardian1226
@fraenguardian1226 Год назад
So your saying that Khorne cannot deny Total Eclipse huh?
@tomeknowik2050
@tomeknowik2050 Год назад
It does imho look like khorne is a thinking mans army with all the overlapping stuff and managing your tithe.
@kennypalmer8971
@kennypalmer8971 Год назад
It’s not an easy army to build and space properly. However, with everything in this game it gets easier with practice
@cmleibenguth
@cmleibenguth Год назад
Always has been in AoS Same for new Khorne team in Bloodbowl
@LaketideMiniatures
@LaketideMiniatures Год назад
Comments for the algorithm god
@xgeekiexD
@xgeekiexD Год назад
Man I wish the vermin lords were close to as good as the blood thirsters cause from using them for years they don't seem as good for the same or cost more points wise and are only used for there spells if that on top of skaven having one build that works while every new book has what feels like alot of love with a variety of builds
@kolari8971
@kolari8971 Год назад
The unfortunate fact of this book is that every bloodthirster sucks
@xgeekiexD
@xgeekiexD Год назад
@@kolari8971 but I can see why people would use them or see people doing good with them but the only reason you take a deceiver is for the sitter leap and the war bringer for death frenzy other wise they are actually worse then a foot hero in most cases
@kolari8971
@kolari8971 Год назад
@@xgeekiexD Bloodthirsters are literally the exact same. You might take an Unfettered for the -1 to hit bubble, or Skarbrand to… be Skarbrand. But their damage is barely above an average Galletian Champion, and Skarbrand’s output is like 30% of what it used to be
@xgeekiexD
@xgeekiexD Год назад
@@kolari8971 true I am not denying that but they are both bad models and need a bit of reworking ether way
@skreechverminking2227
@skreechverminking2227 Год назад
God do I hate the fact that every army seems to be getting a 4+ rally. Just bot skaven no. Apparently we aren’t a horde army
@HuNTeR9507
@HuNTeR9507 Год назад
I think they could have squeezed a few more 8 references in there because after all it is KhORnEs NuMb3R HAhaAha. -_-
@centaurgamer7757
@centaurgamer7757 Год назад
Wait…. Big Khorne dragon is not playable anymore? Seriously? Why though?
@TheHonestWargamer
@TheHonestWargamer Год назад
Cause games workshop don't care about their customers
@centaurgamer7757
@centaurgamer7757 Год назад
@@TheHonestWargamer lmao I get that but what’s the technical reason? I still see it as an option in the army builder and it’s wars scroll is still up on the app. Is he not playable because a keyword or something?
@KountKristyl
@KountKristyl Год назад
Hexgorger Skulls seem like they really nicely shut down Lumineth (as long as my memory is correct and most of their units are wizards). Edit: Don't the Keepers have the same wounds and armour saves? Sure they're more likely to have a -1 to hit but I'd say Bloodthirsters are on par with them and cheaper than them. Edit 2: NGL, after watching this I am pretty deflated ony Khorne, which is a real shame because they were my first AoS army. Part of my disappointment comes from them coming out at the same time as Slaanesh who have mechanics that are way cooler and flashier to me. GW have written themselves into a corner mechanically with Khorne (and this really showed itself with the half-baked World Eaters codex for 40k), where they've decided he's the combat God and *nothing else*. Being so linier is really hurting the design space for Khornate armies, let's not forget the greatest forges of Chaos are in his realm, so where are the big stompy war machines? Where are the blood flamethrowers and skull bazookas? Of all the mono-God factions Khorne should probably have the most conventional shooting. Ramble aside, guess I'll continue to shelve my Blades of Khorne in favour of Khorne marked Slaves to Darkness :(
@kolari8971
@kolari8971 Год назад
Skulls don’t even work on Teclis, he doesn’t make casting rolls. Good times
@KountKristyl
@KountKristyl Год назад
@@kolari8971 I was mostly thinking of their units who cast the buff spells on themselves but I'll admit I don't know how much that changed in their new book.
@cmleibenguth
@cmleibenguth Год назад
You should rewatch the video Khorne is going to be really strong
@KountKristyl
@KountKristyl Год назад
@@cmleibenguth you'll note from my comment that I don't mention the strength of the army but rather it's flavour and "flashiness" as sources of disappointment.
@adamcarey377
@adamcarey377 Год назад
I still feel the +5 ward should of been both for shooting and magic army wide regardless of how close you are to the enemy. Khorne is all about close combat so he should be giving buffs to stop shooting and magic to force your enemy to play his way.
@shendu1337
@shendu1337 Год назад
i just love how the book that is supposed to be all about melee and duels and bloodshed, is being reviewed where evry single melee unit in the book is being discribed as mediocre melee profile, or just okayish. and again thirsters are piss poor joke of a monster. they should be the absolute devils on any battlefield reaping kills in the thousands yet any single melee foot hero less than half there points deals equal or more damage in melee compared to the freaking so called melee monster gods......
@MacKayVer40k
@MacKayVer40k Год назад
Am i crazy. or is the picture of the Bloodreaver new? new models inc?? thats exciting!
@kolari8971
@kolari8971 Год назад
It’s not. There’s not.
@MacKayVer40k
@MacKayVer40k Год назад
@@kolari8971 can you show me where I can get that particular model then? Cuz it looks much better than the ones I see on the gw website. Ahah
@MacKayVer40k
@MacKayVer40k Год назад
@@kolari8971 oh there in the start collecting kit. Ahha odd that those ones are a different sculpt 😂
@kennypalmer8971
@kennypalmer8971 Год назад
The picture of the bloodreaver is the champion model from the original starter set.
@MacKayVer40k
@MacKayVer40k Год назад
@@kennypalmer8971 I see that now! Ahha wish they came separately like that. Ahah
@garrgravarr
@garrgravarr Год назад
Feels a tiny bit lazy, like they had some good ideas but ran out of steam. No unique Monstrous actions. No unique Heroic actions. Lots of buffs specifically for Gorechosen keyword that no one asked for. Inexplicably useless Deathbringers (again). Must use multiple Priests every game (again). 1d3 dmg for Thirsters (again lol). Let's see what we can do with it I guess. The movement shenanigans are pretty fantastic. And it's nice that Bloodletters got a boost.
@cmleibenguth
@cmleibenguth Год назад
Trying to encourage people to use Mortal heroes other than Priests and Bloodsecrator Not saying they were succesful or not, just pointing out the intent
@cmleibenguth
@cmleibenguth Год назад
Nice glow up for juggernaut riders Blood Warriors with 3+ armor is dumb They can coalition normal Chaos Warriors for an anvil ( or add more Juggernauts ) The new rolls are just a side variant of SCE explosions Army wide fight on death, even if not mortal wounds, would be more thematic Bloodletters kinda tanky now with 2 wounds and 5+ ward vs long range shooting (Sentinels, SCE, and KO who don't have a death wish) Great glow up for mortal units (save a slight nerf to Bloodsecrator - and then compensated for with that rally) Maybe we won't just see Bloodthirster spam? Too bad exalted Khorne hero with shield is gone Guess he is just an Exalted Hero of Chaos now with mark of Khorne
@cmleibenguth
@cmleibenguth Год назад
Disagree Apoplectic frenzy sounds awesome Shows how crazy angry and blood thirsy they are
@dalorasinum386
@dalorasinum386 Год назад
Was anyone else hoping for a complete rewrite for this book but felt like it just got a few rend and save points here and there but besides that barely changed?
@kolari8971
@kolari8971 Год назад
It’s incredibly disappointing and we have to sit here and listen to non Khorne players tell us we should be happy to have expensive Gutrippaz as an option…
@Wymorn
@Wymorn Год назад
I was hoping BTP would be more like World Eaters and summoning would get removed but instead all they did was make everything 50% more expensive and put even more emphasis on daemons instead of mortals
@kolari8971
@kolari8971 Год назад
@@Wymorn did you read the same book? The BTP system is the only good part, summoning is overcosted and almost all the daemons are useless
@kennypalmer8971
@kennypalmer8971 Год назад
@@Wymorn the book looks fun for mortals tbh. I’ve been play mortal khorne for 5 years and they’ve never been the highest damage out of the armies in my play group. The army seems almost like a control army. Lots of walking into melee range, lots of speed. It actually feels kind of thematic that they aren’t an army that’s going to one shot everything, but they’ll have grindy games fighting over objectives. Honestly, put loads of reaver and warrior bodies on objectives with the goretide subfaction, use skullcrushers to pin an important shooting unit or an important hero in the back of the board, and win that way.
@dalorasinum386
@dalorasinum386 Год назад
@@kennypalmer8971 if the grinding works as you describe then that would be good as that always what I’ve liked in games. Though I think myself and a lot of others were hoping to move away from the pillow fists and buff reliance and to something more like ironjawz but with more to them as that would feel rather thematic to Khorne I’d say.
@elias1579
@elias1579 Год назад
I can’t believe I preordered the limited Ed battletome. This is the same shit as last time, great rules abysmally weak warscroll stats 😢 Fukn hell
@kennypalmer8971
@kennypalmer8971 Год назад
They have strong warscrolls with overlapping buffs. Very few armies have to overlap the way khorne does. Khorne mortals aren’t the most straight up killing army. Overlap buffs, grind out on objectives, throw buckets of dice. The army is still incredibly fun
@ungface
@ungface Год назад
Imagine that the God of murder and bloodlust and war and melee combat etc has greater demons that are worse in melee then the wizard gods spellcasting demons. GW have fucked up khorne for the entirity of AoS so far (d3 damage should be illegal) 🤡
@MultiGamer20211
@MultiGamer20211 Год назад
Why are they so afraid of making bloodthirsters expensive yet terrifying monsters? Seeing 3-4 in a list is just stupid. They should be rare and expensive and kick ass because they’re the strongest daemons of the god of war! They need to be like 400 points minimum and have crazy damage output. D3 is insulting for any Khorne unit, let alone a fucking bloodthirster.
@markpandelidis2079
@markpandelidis2079 Год назад
I definitely agree, healing units doesn't feel right in a Khorne army. It's one thing to have say your demon hero heal himself. That's about the extent I'd say makes sense for healing in Khorne. I really dislike having every single ability in every army. Khorne doesn't have any magic. That's unique to them. The day they allow magic in Khorne is the day the game is officially ruined. Just throwing everything including the kitchen sink at an army just to try and sell models doesn't work.
@elias1579
@elias1579 Год назад
40K definitely got the STONKS for greater daemons. Really disappointed in the Bloodthirsters in AOS
@cmleibenguth
@cmleibenguth Год назад
Why? They're great
@elias1579
@elias1579 Год назад
@@cmleibenguth they are great in regards to their rules. Just not the damage output you’d expect
@elias1579
@elias1579 Год назад
This book suffers from the same thing as the last book, great rules and weak Warscrolls
@markpandelidis2079
@markpandelidis2079 Год назад
HOT TAKE GRAND strategies. Meaning they are quite big. Should actually be difficult to achieve. I disagree with having easy GS....what's the point then. You know going into a match that if nothing else you're getting 3 free points at the end. I prefer grand strategies to be difficult, interactive and fun. Not, have an invocation on the table 😒 (ya I'm looking at you dwarves)
@elias1579
@elias1579 Год назад
Why the fuck did they bring back the D3 damage axe!!! This makes me so upset. Its absolutely trash!!! I played with that shit for 4 years, it’s never good
@alexleslie4122
@alexleslie4122 Год назад
would have loved to see at least D3+1
@olafolafsson2755
@olafolafsson2755 Год назад
Then play sth different
@Lord_Nielsen
@Lord_Nielsen Год назад
I’m also really fucking annoyed, it should be hits n wounds on 2 , -2 Rend, 3 dmg! This whole book is fucking lazy
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