You know Mike Smith, who co presented Late Late Breakfast show with Noel, was completely devastated by Michael Lush's death. He suffered with depression over the guilt of it for the rest of his life. After he died his wife said that he never really got over it. And there lies the difference between the two presenters. One ruthlessly ambitious and only thinking of his career, the other a genuine guy for whom a human life meant more than his career
I wonder how he felt when that guy with a learning disability committed suicide after watching Ghostwatch. Even though it was no one's fault that must also have affected him.
Staggering, isn't it? He says all the right words (but clearly means none of them) for all of twenty seconds at the start, and then it's all ME-ME-ME for the next nine minutes, with Wogan shamefully enabling him into the bargain. And Edmonds 'playfully' insults Wogan's wife for good measure.
Noel Edmonds is a control freak and hates having the limelight taken away from him by ordinary people. Study Deal Or No Deal and you will see for yourselves.
sound I heard they didn't have to wait for that appt at the moment and not sure what happened to be back to school today x hope all well there and will go back for filter and they were working on it and should've been let down by someone around here x hope
Acknowledge that people wrote sympathising yes, as briefly as possible BUT put the emphasis on the Lush family much more so and the tragic loss of their son. It's nice that people took time to write to Noel but more so to the family to give their condolences.
Personally, I would have ended Mr Edmond's career immediately. I agree entirely with the comment about Mike Smith, by noveltybobel, a true gentleman, who was devastated by what had happened. He went to his grave having been affected for the rest of his life. Edmonds behaved in exactly the opposite manner, showing little, if any, compassion for the dead man's family. Simply the fact that Edmonds agreed to go on this programme shows, to my mind, how his future career was first and foremost on his mind and, last, the feelings of the mother and father who lost a son. All those foolish people should not have been writing to Mr Edmonds, they should have written to the bereaved family to show their condolences.
Says a lot about Edmunds that instead of starting off by paying tribute to the victim, he starts by talking about himself and how much sympathy people have for him.
@@grahamd5418 I cant blame him, I tried to but no it dont hold up. He is there to be interviewd and the host is like "ofcourse its terrible for the family of michael but how do you..." so how can he answer from any other perspective them from his own when its all about him in the first place and the host doing a good job keeping the focus on his own personal life
He did talk about the guy and the tragedy first. It didn't flow well from talking about the tragedy to his career. The change in gear could have been better, like Edmonds not briefly laughing before answering.
His smugness is unbearable. A body language expert would have a field day with this interview. Rip. Mike. God bless your family who must still be suffering with the grief this man caused them.
A friend of my parents who was a contestant on Deal Or No Deal described him as not being very pleasant when the cameras weren't on. I recall watching it, and when on-screen with him she didn't appear to be at all herself as she has a very bubbly personality and that was very telling for me
I bet they bought f**king Blobby merchandise as well. Vile!! We should have seen this was the beginning of the Dumbing Down Television onslaught. Him & Cowell are as equally repulsive. You can hear some of the audience were knuckledragging bellends, screaming and shouting, the thick w⚓s 🙄🤌💦
What a self serving, self pitying, vain man. Growing up with Noel being pretty much a British institution, I enjoyed his presenting style. But this was just appalling. To expound on his own problems and not acknowledge the sheer grief the Lush family suffered let alone Michaels girlfriend who put his name forward is breathtaking! Yes, the failings were behind the scenes, but as a front man in any enterprise you have to bear some responsibility. Those stunts on the show were incredibly dangerous. As a front man, he should have demanded to see the level of health and safety involved and that no corners were cut. H & S was just not considered in this very sad case. RIP Michael
For all those who get themselves into a frenzy over H&S, it's worth remembering this clown's team's disregard to it all enabled the Health and Safety Executive to have a much stronger influence. Indirectly its this idiot who has helped to create a "nanny state" people whinge about.
Poor you Noel. You had a tough couple of weeks. How you could make this about yourself and your career is just revolting. That family are still missing the person they lost to this day.
I appeared on the late late breakfast show a few weeks before this accident I met him and found him to be a truly horrible person and so up himself, When the camera was on he completely changed all smiles and laughs not a nice person.
I remember Edmonds visiting our school in the late 80's and sticking my middle finger up to him through the window of the classroom door 😆 I make no apologies. I wish he would have seen me but he was wearing shades as I remember.
Unlike the rest of the population I don’t think he will agree with you. I don’t know why they didn’t call his show the all about Noel Edmonds show. He isn’t even interesting.
@@oscarosullivan4513 thank goodness we have you, a professional internet psychologist, here to diagnose such conditions 🤦♂️ so many people like you casually throwing words around that you don’t even understand.
There wasn't an inevitability?! In an earlier episode, two old banger cars crashed at great speed, one in to the spectators, the other completely flipping upside down!
I'm 38 years old and never knew anything about this, Noel seems so self centred in this interview it's all about himself, his career and nothing about the poor fella who died or his family
Exactly - I agree. I can just about remember this - I am 46 now and I remeber the show stoppign as someone was killed... in 86 I was 9 years old. Edmonds alwasy made my skin crawl as a child....
At no point does he say the main point is, this is not about me but the death a family has now got to live with. Comes across as very selfish, which I think he is in real life when i've seen him.
I hear that poor Noel Edmonds is nowadays down to his last measly £85million, reduced to living in one single $1.4million mansion at an exclusive coastal resort in New Zealand. Life can be cruel even to the most saintly of us....
He was aware people would write to Points of View and the BBC. And 'quite rightly' in his opinion. Glad it helped people to confide in him they had also lost loved ones. His positive spin is unbelievable. And Tel nonchalantly acknowledges the tragedy to the family but then turns it more importantly to Edmonds' career. The BBC was full of Radio 1/2 Daemons.
this has got to be the most bizarre, tasteless episode of Wogan ever broadcast, Noel Edmonds totally deflects the subject of Michael Lush dying to serve his popular TV show , a man who died due to gross negligence and catastrophic safety failings by those involved. Here was a chance for Edmonds to publicly pay some respect to Michael Lush yet Edmonds focusses entirely on himself and his own career, the " rough two weeks " he and his wife experienced, and the letters of support and sympathy he has received etc..etc , I remember watching this when it was first broadcast and felt quite disgusted by it and time has only cemented that opinion, not a single nod towards the fact that a man lost his life on account of his TV show, doesn't even mention Michael Lush's name or his family , the BBC liked to cover things up back then, Jimmy Saville and others, certain things were taboo and off limits for discussion and it would seem that would also apply to someone being killed for the sake of a TV show. Coming on a chat show to solely talk about how it almost ended his career as the main topic of concern is just absolutely horrible and grossly inappropriate.
A member of the public died on his watch yet it's as though Noel feel's he's more deserving of the lion's share of the public sympathy rather than the friends and family of the victim. It's a really odd interview and very 'Alan Partridge' as someone else has mentioned.
He said the accident "wasn't inevitable" - I have to disagree. That show was one big accident waiting to happen. The stunts performed on it were complete madness. Almost every week inviting tragedy and it really was only a matter of time.
Indeed. Prior to the death of Micheal Lush, there were two accidents with car stunts (on the same show) which were near fatal and a woman broke her shoulder being shot out of a cannon. Also, the health and safety advisors for the show repeatedly told the production that the stunts weren't safe and that a death was all but inevitable. So Noel saying that a death "wasn't inevitable" is disingenuous BS.
There was an incident a few weeks before I seem to remember when someone was tied up in a packing case and then thrown into a swimming pool. It was a very uncomfortable watch. I think the divers had to go in to rescue the poor devil in the end. So yes, a tragedy was inevitable.
@@vordman I remember that too, and was actually a bit shaken by it. She barely got out and appeared on the brink of drowning when she finally surfaced. Inevitable is the word. See for yourself: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IRhoFzLRRsA.html
He went on - like so many of these shallow sods - to become a self-parody and then to develop warped extreme theories about the world. Hate to say it Noel but a complete breakdown and life reassessment would've made you a better person in the long run. Dear Terry what a lovely chap you were RIP
For anyone already feeling uncomfortable with Noel's lack of feeling towards the deceased or the sincerity of his time away from the screen, it is worth bearing in mind the timeline... Michael Lush died on 13 November 1986 This interview aired on 17 December 1986
@@johnking5174 £350,000 is not 3.5 million. You suck at maths and reading comprehension. Also, who cares how much money it was? No amount of money is a valued replacement for the irresponsible death of a loved one, much less a mere £350,000, which is what the grieving family received when adjusting for inflation.
People talked about why Jimmy Savile never got called out as he was so weird. For me Noel Edmunds has always made my skin crawl - I'm not saying he is or was an abuser like Saville, but he's certainly a narcissist in my opinion - But the point is there were several people on TV that were just .... well, 'wrong' - This guy doesn't talk about the victim - and investigations found that his shows safety procedures we non-existent. A man died on his show and he's joking around and acting like he's had a very difficult time as he 'lost his show' - Wogan introduced him as being 'brave' for not doing the show anymore.... I guess the BBC always stuck together. Noel , here says he did the 'honourable thing' - As if the show could continue after a death...... !! Im sure Steve Coogan with Alan Partridge used this terrible event in his show 'Knowing me, Knowing you' when he accidently killed a man on his show... Buti don't think even Alan Partridge could have been as narcissistic as Noel is here....
I dislike Edmonds intensely, he reminds of Alan Partridge in that episode where his friend at the BBC dies while signing his new contract. Wogan is not much better, his questions are all about letting Edmonds off the hook, probably because they both work at the BBC and he was told to go easy on him? Wogan certainly gave David Icke a much harder time a few years later, and he hadn't caused anyone's death.
What seems to me as quite disgràceful is how they (or Wogan) refers to Michael Lush as a "terrible event" and terrible thing" without even calling him by his name, acknowledging that he was a person or acknowledging that he was killed until nearly two minutes into interview- and then don't directly mention him again.
Nah I really don't think that at all, never any hint of that sort of stuff . But the weird feeling you get about showbiz people is usually because their on-screen persona is not authentic to their real life persona.
@@BungleBare “I don’t hate Edmonds. I don’t give a shit about Edmonds. I hate the things he does, sure. I hate the way he behaves. I hate his personality and his appearance. But hate Edmonds himself ? No, sir. Wouldn’t give him the satisfaction.”
Hmm... this is the same Noel Edmonds who would go on to cheerily mock a contestant on Deal Or No Deal because he worked in "Elf & Safety" - i.e. trying to prevent senseless tragedies like this. And well done to Wogan for gently reminding everyone that Edmonds wasn't actually the victim here.
+K Kitt Would you believe, that in 1999 a member of the public was yet again very seriously (though thankfully not fatally) injured in rehearsal for another stunt involving gravity for another Noel Edmonds Saturday night BBC show? The woman suffered two severely broken legs in a ten meter plunge and it very badly impacted her physical and mental health, suffering weight gain to 29 stone through comfort eating due to the trauma she suffered, as well as PTSD, depression and flashbacks. Noel didn't contact her on a single occasion.
Noel Edmonds did nothing wrong. Please stop asking us to feel sorry for people who voluntarily entered into dangerous situations of their own free will. They knew the risks. Yes, we feel sorry for them and their families, but it was their decision.
@@billybong7394 Noel Edmonds did do something wrong. He continued to put his name to a production which had already claimed three instances of injury, in one case life threatening, caused by health and safety failings. In light of these events he should have either cancelled his involvement with the show or sought assurance that the stunts were being carried out to the highest safety standards in his name. The inquest into the death concluded that there were alarming cut backs in safety measures to reduce cost. The gentleman concerned in taking part would have assessed the risk based upon trust that the BBC and a show which Noel Edmonds lent his name in approval of would consider safety as the highest priority in the production and that all those measures would be in place. Noel Edmonds endorsed activity which was not as safe as it should have been.
Its wasn't an inevitable event if qualified people had been consulted. It was a list of total ineptitude on the part of the bbc and producers. But as we all know the bbc stand with their employees, Edmunds, Saville, Bashir.
The most experienced stuntman in the UK at the time didn't want to be involved in this stunt due to the risk involved and the lack of basic safety measures. He said as each week passed the stunts got more risky to the extent he said a death was inevitable.
He was a brilliant DJ but not a particularly good interviewer. He let the guest control the interviews too often, as can be seen here. He should have nailed Noel Edmonds on why he saw the whole incident in terms of how it affected his own career, rather than how someone had lost everything and a family was left devastated
Me me me myself and I…Just talked about himself the whole interview, can’t imagine what the family was thinking when watching this..Omg the narcissism is unbelievable
when christmas was mentioned you'd only be thinking that christmas-------as far as the family of micheal lush was concerned-----having lost a loved one a few weeks previously----------wood mean absolutely nothing.............celebrating it all at the top of a notable tall building the same distance that a member of the public fell to his death from also seemed to be a"particularly insensitive inappropriate"thing for the BBC to do given the recent curcumstances......... having christmas festivities in the more usual setting of a house wood have shown alot more consideration towards micheal lush's grieving family given the major trauma that they were already dealing with...interestingly enough my late grand parents Kath and Albert Banger lived in hedge end,Southhampton where mr lush came from and if you left there house and drive along it to the junction with the main road"hobb lane"(the road that micheal lush and his family lived in)is right in front of you i.e directly opposite.........
anthony c Just been catching up on what Noel Edmonds was up to (I live outside the country) and saw RIP Sir Terry???? Very sad.. He brought a lot of laughter to our lives. Worked Hard and did a lot for charity. Glad he didnt suffer for long. Enjoy meeting up with your old pals Terry...
noel edmonds did'nt start of talking as though the accident that took the life of micheal lush did'nt matter he was rightly sombre when it came to the incident and said people(including himself)took the incident very seriously it was the fact that he was'nt at the scene when the tragedy occured unlike mike smith who was there/present when it happened.however i was amazed to discover/learn from another internet video that Mr lush had drunk two glasses of beer before he did the jump that went very wrong..obviously he'd had these drinks to calm his nerves/anxiety but in the end there was no safety net to break his fall...it wood have saved his life...
With the passing of time and the luxury of looking back the interview seams harsh to the victims family. But in the style of the BBC at that time to gloss over such a difficult,sensitive and sad situation was normal don't forget the BBC were experts at covering over anything unpleasant and hiding any amount of skeletons at the back of very large and very deep wardrobes. If my memory serves me well Noel Edmonds was not there on site at the time of the accident. The Wogan show was an early evening light entertainment show and maybe felt that to go to deep in to the accident was not suitable. I do wounder who was responsible for setting the questions for Noel Edmonds to answer the production team or a gentleman's arrangement between two well known BBC icons.
I think people need to do a bit of research on this case. "The Late Late Breakfast Show" was both produced and directed by Michael Hurll (who died in 2012 and used to produce TOTP). Noel Edmonds & Mike Smith were not to blame at all. Michael Hurll and the BBC in general are to blame as they kept broadcasting these stunts as they wanted more and more viewer ratings.
Noel is to blame for spending an entire interview, his first appearance after the death of Lush, talking about the impact on himself and his own career. Quite extraordinary.
@@tarrek - He spoke about Lush at the beginning, plus how it has affected him. The whole interview wasn't supposed to be all about one subject. Also, remember that the inquest had yet to take place, so he couldn't talk about his death too much and the circumstances surrounding it.
I don't agree that Noel wasn't to blame at all. A tricky subject, and a delicate one too. In a legal sense, Noel was not involved directly in the specific happenings and failures which caused the wholly avoidable tragedy. But the reason why blame cast a shadow over him, was because he was effectively the salesperson for the product. He endorsed the show and its stunts. Which is all well and good if you are selling something which you have no reasonable cause to doubt the integrity of, but that was inarguably not the case with The Late Late Breakfast Show. There had been sustained credible warnings, and examples proving, that the stunts were falling alarmingly short of acceptable safety standards. There is a very serious responsibility to have the highest level of personal satisfaction in the quality of the safety measures of dangerous activities if you directly involve yourself in them. And given the past multiple failings with this show, plus the ongoing criticism from professional, independent stunt producers, it's very difficult to justify your support for it in the wake of it causing a tragedy. Noel knowingly took the risk of continuing to advocate the production, so he cannot refer to it as a "we" effort when reaping the benefits, then change it to "they" once it becomes damaging to all those involved. And to be fair to Noel in that particular regard, the first thing he did was indeed accept blame when talking to the press. Whilst I would agree that he did not directly, to put it bluntly, kill Mr Lush, he was the person who knowingly sold a product to him which had reasonable concern over its safety standard.
I wonder if this interview is far too soon after the incident Would it have been any different if it had been about 2 years later once The Saturday Roadshow had started?
@John Smith - Very true. I've seen the credits for "The Late Late Breakfast Show" and the only thing he is listed as is being the host/presenter. The BBC and the producers were to blame. They just wanted the highest ratings as possible at the time.
I'll tell you exactly how Noel was partly to blame. The show had been given numerous warnings that they were putting unskilled members of the public in life threatening situations beyond their capability, on occasions causing serious injuries and one instance of near death. If you then go out on stage with this knowledge, as a trusted figure signing your approval to the work being carried out for the production which bears your name, you should really involve yourself in seeking your own personal assurance that there will be no repeat of past safety failings. When you look down a camera lens and invite the watching audience to participate in a stunt, you should be knowing of all aspects involved in that element of the production and be personally satisfied with the safety measures. _"If I was to continue my career at the BBC I would want to be fully confident about any production team I was provided with."_ This statement, made by Edmonds following the death of Michael Lush, revealed that the level of confidence he would seek for future productions would be higher than previously sought for the Late Late Breakfast Show. Given that a man died through multiple gross safety failings, seeking a higher level of confidence for that particular stunt could have either saved a man's life, or at very least made Noel walk away from involvement in a show offering alarmingly substandard safety to its participants, thereby not connecting him in any way to the tragedy. No, I don't think anyone here does believe that Noel personally set up the stunts. And that's the problem, he had no involvement with the dangerous activities he was selling and earning a wage from. When really, he should have.
I always liked noel's house party for the first few years I'd never miss it and always didn't get why he was disliked by many but I can now see that he is so self obsessed
Absolutely the same here. I don't dislike him, but I find myself agreeing with a lot of the criticism of his character, whereas I would have once not seen it and defended him. I do believe he means well, but doesn't quite see himself for what he can sometimes be.
I wanna be invited to a gay party with Noel Edmonds. You can easily picture him here wearing light blue jeans and leather. It would be like that gay disco bit in my family season 6. Also Terry Wogan was literally in his prime here.
Noel was only employed as the show's presenter. He wasn't in charge of health and safety. Also the viewers themselves wrote in volunteering to take part in the stunts. Sure, the h&s people failed in their safety checks on this occasion, but to lay blame on Noel was utterly ridiculous. Someone died on Remembrance Day once, live on Sunday morning TV in the presence of The Queen, but does she get blamed?!?!? Noel was as upset as anyone at what happened, hence why he chose not to carry on with LLBS.
No he didn't. He quite clearly said in the interview he only stopped the show because he thought his 'special' relationship with the public was over, not because he was upset at what happened. He's so self obsessed he thinks that as long as he's alright then everything is right with the world. He just see everything in terms of himself
“There wasn’t an inevitability that this would ever happen”; apart from the guy was not a professional stuntman, there was no safety netting or air cushion, the equipment was inadequate and there were no safety officers or medical teams there!
I think it's unquestionably fair to say that Noel was in no way responsible for the tragic accident. However, the damage to his reputation has validity in that he endorsed a show which had been given repeated warnings over safety fears. It had already nearly killed a man live on air and broken the shoulder of a woman when a safety net failed. His judgement in endorsing such a production is rightly questioned in such a serious matter, but I don't think it's fair that he should be blamed for the incident in any way.
It wasn't the first time a stunt had gone wrong, and people had got hurt or had near misses. John Peel presented some segments and walked after a rally car flipped and nearly ploughed into the crowd (narrowly missing him) - and then they decided to have another go at it.
brad wakey BBC works with smaller production companies to produce programmes. Edmonds is such a grasping shit I bet he owned the company and was an executive producer. Similar to all Steve Coogan and Charlie Brooker, except they're lovely.
To be fair, Wogan's questions were largely geared towards Noel and the effect the accident had on him directly which he naturally based his answers around. I looked this interview up because I also read that during it he never mentioned Michael Lush's name at all but he did. It may be that he ultimately really did use this as an opportunity to promote his return on the back of an awful event, and if so that's altogether different. But I'm not sure he's quite the egotistical monster he was made out to be based on this clip.
The way I see it, even Noel Edmond's voice is beautiful and so is Terry Wogans and if you want to hear more Terry you can just watch another video with him and it's all just f**king brilliant.
I have a friend who’s late mother worked in the offices at Sony and they were told Noel Edmonds was going to be coming in. The office staff were all really excited about it, especially because back then celebrities were not accessible the way they are nowadays through social media etc. She said they were so disappointed as he barely spoke to them and was rude and arrogant when he did.
I think the same thing. The interviewer was literally like 'how are you doing' he probably should of tried to give his condolences to the family then answer the question but it was like he ignore a question about the family or something.
