I discuss a Bear Cruzer which has been derailed twice. I show the damage on the second derail. I discuss derailing your bow, the damage which may be caused. www.archeryshop.com.au
We need more like you in the archery community Steven. You are a good man. Props to Bear as well for taking care of the cams too even though they didn't have to. It must be frustrating for you but i respect you a ton for how you handle this. Teaching him how to shoot FREE of charge alone is a MASSIVE favor for anyone.
I've had mine for close to 4 years, rock solid bow. It's what I start to learn on when I got back into archery/compound. Mine has only got some wear on the cables near the cable slide. I'm amazed that your customer has derailed it. I wonder if the poundage is set to high for them also. When I started I had mine set on 60#, bad idea and I hurt my shoulder and neck muscles because I clearly didn't know how to shoot properly and was over bowed. Dropped it back to 40# and now over the years I've had it worked my way upto comfortably been able to draw just over 50# and shoot about 30 to 40 arrows before I start to fatigue. My goal is to get to be able 55-60# eventually.
Thanks for the mention of the possibility of torquing the bow with the draw hand. As a recurve shooter during practice, I noticed I was slightly twisting the tab when drawing the bow. Need to remind myself to keep my draw hand square to the string.
This is for compounds, not recurves. Because fingers arent the same length its not uncommon for recurve archers to have draws that are offset to the string axis.
Amazing. I am sorry to hear all these stories. A Pro Shop is so hard to find, and a GOOD one is a gold mine. Why do people feel the need to be ao rude, and dishonest? I always appreciate their knowledge and kindess and make it a point to buy something every time i Visit. I have a lot of hats. loyalty must go two ways.
Had this happen on my Bear Cruzer G3. Turned out the cause was the quick release. Had been shooting for years without problems and then switched to the new release and it started dry firing. Took 3 derailing in front of shop owners to determine it was the release. Addressed issue. Never happened again.
I just can't believe the owners won't admit that they torqued and derailed the bow to begin with instead of blaming the manufacturer or the bow for the damage. They go down swingin don't they?? 😁😁 Just man up people and tell the shop owner what really happened!!! Great video as always Steven!!! 🏹🏹🏹
If the cam is under "warranty," but the customer doesn't want to pay for restringing/peep/timing, give them cam and the derailed bow and say good luck. Nobody works for free
Ask for money before you even think of putting on the new Cam on, if the person says No. Give the person new Cam and say good luck the doors behind you... Cruel to be kind they've got to learn manners sometime...
In cases like this is it better to refund the difficult client under the condition he never return; fix the bow and sell as a used bow? I feel for you mate, it's just headaches you don't need in business. Kudos to bear for helping you out and the staff member for keeping their cool.
@@charlesroscoe9997 ethically and morally I totally agree. Legally, Steve has already given above and beyond. I was just thinking, the guy sounds like an ongoing headache and that losing a bit of money to sell it used is maybe saving money in future wasted time with a guy who refuses advice and is learning to get his way.
I bought a Cruzer g3 and omg. Every time you make an adjustment in # it causes cam lean, needs to put in a press and adjusted. It was only by pure chance I happen to look up at the cam when drawing that I noticed it was out, had I taken the shot it would have been disastrous. Bear Cruzers are renowned for this problem as I was told after purchase. They are a piece of pure garbage and a waste of $700. I recommend anyone who has a Cruzer to burn it, if not then check the cam on every draw because disaster is only a shot away.
I really don't understand why someone wouldn't take the training if it's free. People are muppets. Too many idiots have watched Hollywood archery and a bit of RU-vid and think they know what they are doing. Unfortunately this kind of thing used to happen just the same when I was paragliding. People convincing themselves they know how to paraglide after watching a YT video or reading a book about it. Paragliding is not kind to fools, the ignorant and the overconfident. The lucky ones live another day to reflect on their mistakes and their injuries, the not so fortunate meet their maker. There are people with no experience and knowledge who always know better than the experts.
WTH? People? Take responsibility for what YOU do. Too many people nowadays are looking for someone to cover their stupid arse on everything. There’s a real difference between a part failure ( very rare occurrence) and a part destruction caused by the user. Don’t put the blame on anyone but yourself when YOU CAUSED the problem. Get your wallet out and pay the shop to fix the problem YOU CREATED!
I wonder if the customer who did this and acted this way thinks about his brain the same way he is thinking about the bow. It's obviously faulty and malfunctioning, so it must be God's fault for giving this person a brain that he clearly does not know how to use properly. Moreover, he's not receptive to people giving him advice on how to use his brain properly. Such a waste.
Derail is not necessary a customer's issue, could be the bow out of tune, could be defective cam, and these low range Bear's bows are pretty crappy, just don't sell them.
Been shooting compounds since they have been made haven't had bow shops do anything to my bows never ever had a derail just don't understand how you can do it, now I have had cables break at the shot when that happened I was a staff shooter for Jennings 3 days before IBO world in 1993
