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IS-7 in real life:The most advanced tank of the time,imprevious to all anti tank guns at the time. IS-7 in war thunder:Gets ammo racked by a moving MBT with a stabilizer and thermals,firing 400mm pen APFSDS 2 kilometers away.
@@alphanomad511 except you can,the leopard can easily lolpen it,the fact the IS-7 faces fully stabilized thermal sight 1980s MBTs is just overkill,its useless.
Just gaijin being horrendous at game balance. I mean the entire IS series, much like the MAUS and other late war tanks consistently face MBTs with heat or even darts and stabilizers. Then again if the devs also beleive that an R3 with a fully automatic 30mm stabilized gun should face early T-34s and shermans, what do you know? Vehicles should be matched based on their performance, and clearly the late war tanks are underperforming (epsecially in regard to their repair cost) compared to the modern vehicles they conistently face.
@@datonecommieirongear2020 Tiger II's only go up to 7.7 mot 8.0, any player with a Tiger II that got up tiered to 8.0 must have been using an M48 which is 7.0.
yeah, it's like miles ahed of anything around. not even german heavies, like the maus. soviet heavy doctrine was beautiful, if MBTs never came to existance, russia would have had the best tanks for sure. speedy, small siloutted, hard hitting, well protected tanks... ma boi stalin knew
It was really canceled because when Stalin died Khrushchev canceled everything Stalin had his name on. You could not have the Polit Bureau condemning Stalin but the Soviet Union's main battle tank named after him.
@@Kettenhund31 Same with US tankers unlucky enough to face the big cats: Yes, they are cursed men then in their shermans but their Generals knew that the Tigers and Panthers contributed to the massive discrepancy in numbers of tanks on the battlefield between the US and Germany.
The 14,5 machinegun on the turret roof wasn't remote controlled. There is no mechanism inside the holding tube, and nothing inside the turret to control the gun. In the video the Chieftain did on the IS7 this is quite good to see.
This has to be the equivalent of the King Tier, even tough it never saw the battlefield, one could only imagine the terror when coming face to face with this beast lol.
When i was just about to recognize tanks thanks to the online tanks games at that time, WOT, i have taken the Tier X IS-7, it wasn't nerfed yet. It was so effective that the only downside was the cost credits. It only rivals the Maus, until updates begun and i don't think i'll play that again, but it was fun and fast despite its weight.
To be fair to the M103 and M47/48 they can carry a HEAT-FS round capable of penetration anywhere on the front of the tank (M431 and M469). Especially at longer ranges where the angle of the armor would be nullified somewhat by the drop of the HEAT-FS round. Meaning by the mid 50's (if not earlier if this had actually entered service causing a panic rush to make these rounds quicker) the armor of the IS7 was rendered obsolete by shaped charges. Meaning you had now just spent an enormous amount of resources on a heavy tank that's protection (its main feature) is now irrelevant.
A magnificent vehicle, but the fixed machineguns are absurd. I could see maybe having one forward facing, but damn. I feel like they would have removed those four if the project went on.
The Soviet approach in WWII was to find a decent tank tank that could be made in huge numbers (T34). This approach won out over the German approach (Tiger tank). Besides raw numbers T34 could traverse worse ground and easier to cross rivers.
Imagine if this beast was made earlier and made ready for WW2.... Germans: "Hahaha! Fear our mighty Tiger 1 tank!" Russians: *show up in IS7 monster* Germans in Tiger 1: *ehm.....meow..?*
During the late 1940s/1950s, it's not that the United States or the West couldn't make a similar heavily armored tank. It's that the ultimate limiting issue is weight. Countries have to be able to transport the tank to the battlefield. I deeply admire and respect the engineering of heavy tanks, but weight will always be the limiting factor unfortunately. This lesson extends to today. Even with modern technology, the USA's M1 Abrams tank is pushing the limits of logistics by being 70 tons. Transport planes can only carry a limited amount. There are still many bridges around the world that the Abrams can't cross. They have to create custom bridges that can take the load of an Abrams. Lastly, yhere is a push to make the Abrams and other next generation tanks even lighter. Weight will always be an issue.
No, not even close my dude🤣 literally every tank would shoot right through this and the is7 couldn't pen any modern MBT. Heat rounds from tanks in the 50s would shoot right through this.
@@KaelanF i was qouting something that i read online i dont know much about tanks so i thought the is7 was a monster of a tank gues i cant trust that source no more :p
@@KaelanF It depends on what Situation it is, if it's an ambush and any MBT gets shot from the side, That MBT is knocked out, and it will most likely have High Explosive Reactive armor and even if you say "Shoot HEAT at its side" it has Spaced armor there, giving it a good chance if with modern and better gear attached. IS-7 can shoot Abram's upper plate, making the shot most likely bounce up and into the turret ring, or just shooting the big and exposed turret ring. Shooting some tanks frontally with the IS-7's gun can easily cut through The Japanese MBTs, German Leopard 2s if hitting the right spot (Not Leopard 2A7), and even some Modern russian tanks.
@@MrTungy yeah and most modern tank battle are happening from kms away and even if it did somehow ambushed a convoy of MBT it still would be fucked up because its a convoy. Thing is already 68 tons there is no weight space left for ERA package. Also also in reality chances of a shell bouncing up to the turret ring of the Abrams is lower than games would make think
@@billytheshoebill5364 M1 and M1A2 are over 70 tons, Remember IS-7 can excede 65Km/h+ adding ERA would minorly effect the speed on its own, IS-7's can Bounce APFSDS if having ERA. Also did you hear about a Out dated T-64 that fucked up a Russian Convoy in it's own? Remember It depends on the Situation, M48 Pattons Struggled against IS-3s already, IS-7 was not produced due to logistical problems and was not designed during ww2 so there was not really having another point having another heavy tank let alone you cant even carry it.
i imagine this weight problem with rail roads is still in effect? so my solution is a tank that can be put together onsite by assembling it from parts that are slid into each other and then locked with a bolt.you could segment it in three pieces from the side view, with a wedge chape in the sliding edge so u only have to weld it in the end to make it waterproof. kinda like a kids wooden rail road is pieced together.
So they spend great amounts of time and resources developing an amazing tank and then when they are ready to go into production, some guy goes "hey, how do we transport this thing?" 😁😎🙏
So, the reason the Soviets didn't want the IS-7 tank was high expense, high technical build quality, and a much longer time to build. And yes, the weight was more than they wanted. I guess the Russians didn't want to build tanks the same approach as the Germans with their Tiger tanks. If they redesigned the tank to be under 50 tons, removed most of the small guns, shortened the width by a foot, the soviets could have dropped the engine size and fuel capacity to meet size and weight requirements desired. In the end, even if they knew all the modifications could have created a great tank, the Russians remain steadfast at building only good enough military hardware.
It is difficult to wrap one's head around the notion that the soviets produced anything that would be the world's best, save perhaps absurdity and rust. They produced plenty of both.
If IS-7 were successful and mass produced. Just imagine how technology advances during the cold war. Dont forget because of Germany the technology advances to the maximum at that time. Heck maybe we alrd have a touch screen devices in 1970s
In difference to T-34 the steering responded as in a western tank - no need for a hammer to change gears and/or wrestling match with controls to turn it. It all just worked. Too bad the price was western as well in addition to logistical problems.
The guns bigger than 105 were too complicated leading to T34 (105), T30 (155), and T34 (120). Also it had many engine failures and was agreed that it was a very large target.
Why not just make the turret a 'drop in' style (like you see on battleships, if you flip a Iowa over the turrets would just fall out.) so you could ship the tank in 2 parts, that would let you hit the weight requirements of the rail and be relatively fast to reassemble them where you need them.
Like Cone said,even with such solutions,it would have been ridiculously expensive to produce,maintain and supply.For one piece of it you could have 5 T-54s made which were much more efficient.
this tank is labeled as a bad designed tank yet in world of tanks... war gaming says it cant be penetrated and its mounted gun can shoot thru any armor thickness.
It wasn't really that advanced if it was too heavy to be practical, too expensive to produce in significant numbers, and still vulnerable to combined arms warfare (as all super-tanks had been in WW2; you could have a tank impervious to all other tanks of its day, with a gun capable of easily destroying every other tank in one shot, but that matters little if an artillery strike or bombing run can knock it out through its inevitably weak roof/deck armor, or if a bunch of more practical, faster, and numerous tanks can just flank around to its rear and defeat it that way.
No matter how few were in service - there was one in Szekesfehervar during 1956 and was seen by everyone -used as sentinel at a soviet officers` housing(hotel)...❗
