jdzencelowcz Now I xould get by his death in Code Of Hero. He died a great warrior. But, his clones death was stupid! Optimus could had easly picked him up and took him to the Maximals. I as a fan of Dinobot would had loved to had seen him in more adventures. It would had been cool to see him in Beast Machines with an redesign.
Wazzzzpinator happy at last. Is it weird I felt happy for him the most compared to the Maximals? I mean, after 3 Seasons of being blown up, beaten to a pulp, sliced, chopped and shot at, the guy FINALLY gets some chill.
@@medusathedecepticon He really had no reason being there other than as a fan favorite. You have any idea how far Cybertron is? He'd die from Energon Exhaustion within 15 light years...out of 500.
@@jayjay86443 waspinator should’ve stayed on earth even if the Proto-humans kicked him out of their village Beast Machines using waspinator’s Spark for Thrust was a very bad idea
@@wd3185 Considering Megatron had backups of Dinobot and has like 4 clones of the guy throughout the series. I wouldn’t doubt him having a copy of Waspinator.
There was apparently a unproduced episode (because it was deemed too dark) where Rattrap goes on a rogue suicide mission to upload memories backups of the first Dinobot into the Clone. This would explain why he turned after Rampage died (his spark became whole) and became more self aware.
Daemon Redfield Unfortunately there's still a plot hole with that. Dinobot uploaded his datatrax into the Axalon before he died so his clone wouldn't have remembered his final battle.
I was upset when they did not make Rhinnox transmetal. Very one of the maximal, except Silverbolt was a transmetal. When Depth Charge killed Rampage, he freed Dinobot, who helped the Maximals win the Beast Wars. Why did Tigerhawk have to die? He was Air razor and Tigetron reborn. Rhinox should have used the transmetal 2 driver to upgrade himself. Then all the maximals would be transmetals. As far as I can tell, Dinobot was a true warrior. He was a samurai and Rambo rolled into one. He had guts to stand up to Megatron!! You go Dinobot, now and forever!
Well its the Cybertronian Counterpart to the Bible kinda Known Covenant of Primus Verses: "...and a mighty warrior came down from the sky...and a rainbow was on his head...and his feet were as pillars of fire...and the great dragon was cast out upon the Earth...and his followers were cast out with him." "...and as it were a great mountain, raging with fire, arose from the sea." "I am alpha and omega, the beginning and the end. I am that which is, which was, and is yet to come...and you will know my name is Megatron when I lay my vengeance upon you!" "...and the stone of their protection shall rise upward forever and ever, as they who live and war as beasts confront their final cycle." "...and there came a hero who said: 'Hurt not the Earth, nor the sea, nor the trees, nor the very fabric of time,' but the hero would not prevail, nor would he surrender." "In the spark of an enemy, there will be salvation, and in the darkest hour, there will be a light." "And the sun and its brother shall storm over the new world to reveal the beast and destroy it." The Sojourner's Passage: "Cursed curiosity compelled me to stay, to observe the enemy before the machine age. And now this demands my attention! My first responsibility is to those I left behind, yet I sense what unfolds below eclipses even that which cast me away. In the name of my creator, I will re-enter the void. I will seek that light which has fallen from the forges of our history." "Do not judge a warrior by stature or action until you truly understand that which drives him." "Great events find great Cybertronians. And other times, great events make great Cybertronians." "Humility comes before greatness, and where humility has not paved the road, greatness may not walk it." In the Novel Exodus there is a 21 page excerpt from the Covenant inserted between Chapter 15 and 16. It is written by Alpha Trion and describes the early days of the war. It is also mentioned in the novel that the Covenant forbid more than one Prime at a time, that someone would take the name Megatronus, and a Prime would lead Cybertron in a time of civil war, whom Alpha Trion correctly presumed to be Optimus Prime. "When the 47 spheres align, a perpetual conflict will culminate upon a world forged from chaos. And the weak shall perish in the shadow of a rising darkness." "Pity my Remaining Child, for he will be cast into the Mind of My Own Creation, He shall be used to engineer Dark and Wondrous Artifices …" Logos, Chapter 10, Verse 3:"Yea, and the leviathan would rise from the sea, and it's fury would be like unto the Inferno itself."
07:02 - 07:05 "Unit Tigerhawk Terminated." That hit me right in the feels. Also 09:06 It was at this moment that Inferno realized that suck-ups never win, in the end.
13:13 Megatron: Well come on, let's hear it; the usual destiny and honor speech. Optimus Primal: speech this. *punches Megatron* Me: minus one sin for cutting straight to the fight, with hilarious results. ^_^
Although I absolutely despised Beast Machines, I honestly believe that series would've been a small percentage better had Dinobot 2 survived and returned as a main character fighting along side the Maximal's on Cybertron. Original and TM2 version, he was my all time favorite character.
Jeremiah Akerman That's my thoughts egsactly! Voice Actor Scott McNeil came back for Beast Machines to do voices. So, they could had easly thrown him in there. If they could only afford one animation model, they could had made a Beast Machines Dinobot instead of Nightscream. PS: Nightscream SUCKS!!!! Dinobot could had gone though an introsting character arc seeing his worst enemy achieve his mission as ruler of Cybertron. The Oracle could had made him leader of the resistance against Megatron for his honor and bravery. But, that is my love for Dinobot acting up. Mabye it was just annoying for me to see him die twice.
And maybe with Tigerhawk as well and probably same with the Vok. As it would make the story very complex and will explain everything in Beast Machines, like both Tigerhawk and Dinobot are having identity crises and wonder who they really are, why and wonder why they existed. And explain the Vok's true agenda and are the Vok plan to destroy Cybertron or why the Vok created earth or do the Vok expect humans to exist or anything like those.
kev p he never won the beast wars because when leaving earth during transwarp megatron escaped from the ship and made it to cybertron first and turned cybertron to his image by stealing everyone’s spark there creating robots to hunt the maximals still don’t know watch beast machines transformers
It should be noted that had Megatron heeded Dinobot and not turned the fusion cannon on the Proto-Human Colony he would have most likely won the Beast Wars, by the simple fact that it would have been fully charged by the time the Nemesis reached the Ark(As pointed out by Dinobot the Fusion Cannon's Reactor was depleted to 65% power when they had arrived) without the Maximals having a chance to prepare in time
When I was a kid, when Optimus declared. "The Beast Wars are over...for now." I thought it was a reference to Beast Wars II anime from Japan. After all Optimus(Season 1) did travel thousands of years into the future and teamed up with Lio Convoy.
In my mind, Beast Machines doesn't exist. And this is the true ending to Beast Wars. The Maximals return home and Megatron is finally tried for his crimes against time and the Council, Waspinator gets a happy ending and the other bots are either put to rest or given satisfying conclusions.
Oh, thank God. I haven't been able to see the final episode of Beast Wars til now and every other video I've come across made it seem like it ended heading into that God aweful Beast Machines series and didn't want to get any of Beast Wars on DVD if that was how season 3 ended. So glad one can finish with Beast Wars and honestly not even bother with what came after and have no problem with that
A fantastic ending to an epic series. Dinobot will always be the ultimate badass of Beast Wars BTW do you guys know the name of the instrumental that starts playing at 17:52? It actually showed up several other times throughout the series, off the top of my head in "Transmutate" when Transmutate flew an injured Silverbolt back to The Axalon. Then in Feral Scream, it played again when Optimus linked with Cheetor's spark.
Question is: How can it be done? There are things that apply BW to BMac, like the ending to the "Beast Wars: The Ascension" IDW comic, Transmetal Rhinox's profile in the Beast Wars Sourcebook from IDW, and one of the "Theft of the Golden Disk" videos on youtube has a Vehicon symbol on a computer screen, IIRC.
This finale was amazing, Dinobot really was the best written character in transformers . This show really was something special when it was on, I hope one day transformers can be this good again.
Dinobot Kiryu Makes sense, Optimus Primal was affected by having Primes spark in him so you gotta wonder how having Megatron's spark fused with his would affect his mind.
Destroying just the Autobots would do the same, since if Optimus dies before he can pass on the Matrix, or worse, if the Matrix was destroyed with him, nobody could stop Unicron when he comes along.
@@ff3player probably not, Rampage’s Spark was immortal, and Dinobot II had the core of it. The only thing D2 was freed from was Rampage’s evil, but the immortality came with the Spark and his own Transmetal 2 healing abilities
@@PhelesDragon According on Transformers Wiki As Optimus made to escape, he tried to get Dinobot to follow, but the Transmetal merely wished Primal well as the cockpit exploded around him. Thus he died as a hero, like his predecessor.
beast wars was the best show in transformers history for now but i dont get why some many people hate beast machines??Why?it was my second favorite transformers show and it focused on one or two things.
The one episode I would like to see Tigerhawk seeing Blackracnia as a Maxumal and try to trust her given the past deeds she did. Sadly that was not made wished that was added for a deleted episode
I think I know why this show is as good as it is: THERE. ARE. NO. HUMANS! This is the only transformers show that has no humans in it and yet it is revered as the best transformers show in the franchise, because the focus is on the Transformers and not humans.
Jericho Strayker Also, the proto-humans do count since there are several episodes where the dynamic between them and the Transformers is the focus. There's a female with the name Una (though I don't remember if they say it on the actual show) and there's an episode where Cheetor and Blackarachnia have to escort two proto-human kids home.
im back here after re-watching beast machines...i can excuse every change in BM EXCEPT for Rhinox going evil....Rhinox deserves way more credit for what he did at the end, he coulda died. all the other maximals just sat there...
Can someone explain to me why they couldn't move the Ark? The explanation in the show is unclear to me. Did they not have enough Energon (power)? Or were the engines broken? What was the deal here? Would have been really great to see the Ark fly and fight one more time.
Like Rhinox said "It been offline for too long" so I have to guess it didn't have enough power to fly on its own how long was that " too long" depends on when the Autobots & Decepticons crashed on earth & when the Maximals & Predacons arrived..
Great ending,beast machines is a total paradox how did Rhinox leave the ship / get to Cybertron?,They already are in hyperspace.I pretend Beast machines a alternate reality.
SHOTFIN MAKOH No, what they should have done was reach Cybertron, find the original Megatron(now Galvatron) had taken over with vehicons and the lock virus forcing the Maximals to align with beast Megatron against his ancient namesake, giving us a wonderful new take on the Dinobot/Rattrap relationship, now with Primal and Megs struggling for control of the Maximals.
PhelesDragon HOLY SH!T!!!! THAT IS SUCH A BETTER IDEA OF A STORY! Also, I wish Optimus had rescued Dinobot 2 to rejoin the Maximals so he could had been in Beast Machines. I also wish Waspinator and Rhinox got Transmital bodies so when they were effected, they would just revert back to their original forms and become members of the resistance against Galvatron. BUT, THAT IDEA YOU HAD IS SO FREAKING AWESOME!!!!! These writters should had thought this all out before releasing it. You can't rush art!
Yup & even in Beast Machines when Rattrap & Blackarachnia found their Ship there is a little long hall from the back to the ship to the main controls that they could have " Chained " Megatron inside
And our heroes returned to Cybertron victorious, where Megatron was incarcerated and further adventures were had countering the Tripredacus Council! After all, it would be horrible if this happy ending was _retconned_ and replaced with a gritty, dark, flavorless, colorless show that killed off more characters and performed countless character-assassinations while also proving to be lackluster in humor and action, while only providing minimally interesting story ideas that failed on execution... right?
I loved this show, beast machines was ok but it lacked what made BWs so good. As fun as im concerned BMs is like dragon ball gt, its a continuation but not an important one that matters. It would have been better if they continued with the events after BWs like with the comics where magmatron goes to prehistoric earth to use all the stasis pods that was left over to build a new predacon army.
Tobinatorman You do have a point there and I respect it alot. That is what the real Dinobot would do. But, I considered this clone of Dinobot to be a somewhat different character. It's probably just the kid inside of me. But, I would had loved to had seen him escape the ship and go on to Beast Machines to become a warrior alongside the Maximals. I wish he was the chosen one by the Oracle to be the leader of the resistance against Megatron. It could had also given the chance to explore his full backstory and his relationship with Megatron. But then again, that is just my love for Dinobot acting up. Dinobot is a great character. Hince my username.
@@DinobotKiryu just a thought, but it’s totally feasible that Dinobot 2, and Rampage as well, would have regenerated from the damage they took and gone on to fight each other indefinitely on Prehistoric Earth. Food for your childhood imagination (:
