Have they fixed the body impression/sagging issues? I am returning a C class medium, non pillow top because there is an indent in the middle. It appeared after a few months. I have read many complaints about this. Not sure if I want another Beautyrest. Thinking about Purple RestorePlus Cool touch.
Your video is so comprehensive! I just bought a BB Series 3 Plush with PT. Your video explained so much (more than the sales person). I had a Chattam and Wells Camilla for the last 20 years. Realistically, I should have bought a new bed 3 years ago.
@@hastensavoir7782the medium was ok. A little soft for me. I am a side sleeper and weigh 260lbs. Both were in the showroom but the firm felt better. It’s firm but not like a brick
Another great video! I usually prefer hybrids that are plush but still offer good support. However, when I tried the Tempur-Pedic LuxeAdapt Soft in-store, I was surprised by how much I liked it. That said, I still lean towards hybrids with a nice cushioned top that you can sink into, but that also provides solid support. Which Beautyrest model do you think would be the best fit? I'm considering the CX Plush or the 3 Series Plush. Just to confirm, is the 3 Series Plush a hybrid, and how does it compare to the older CX Plush model? I've also considered the KX Plush, though I know those are hard to find. Thanks!
Thanks for the video and the website write-up, Mike! I've watched and re-watched this a few times as we are making our decision on the right type BRB to buy. I noticed that the goodbed website notes the Series One Medium Pillow Top to be softer than the Series Two Medium Plllow Top. I was a bit confused by this since I thought the Series Two had the additional memory foam that gave it a more surface softness. Is it correct to assume that the Series One MPT would be softer in feel compared to the Series two MPT? Also, in your opinion, would the 2024 line be less prone to the sagging that seemed to be common on the b l c k lines? We tried the Series Four Medium PT And the Series Three Plush PT and found that the three had a bit too much cushioning depth while the Four felt better in terms of depth but could use a tiny bit more softness.
Good eye. We generally thought these models were quite close in overall feel, but with slight differences created by adding more memory foam comfort material. Sometimes adding more material - especially if the extra material is memory foam - can add a paradoxical surface firmness to a mattress. Memory foam in general has more surface tension than poly foam, which is part of what makes it memory foam. So all else being equal, it will have less initial "softness" (note that in our parlance, this is not necessarily the same as how deeply you will sink into the mattress, which we capture as part of "cushioning depth"). Sometimes this effect can be very pronounced, but the memory foam used in this model isn't all that firm. So in this case, the additional memory foam caused the Series 2 to have just a tiny bit less surface softness. The other thing I'd note for you is that in our DB I can see that the softness of the Series 1 comes out to a 5.4, while the Series 2 comes out to a 5.7. This causes the Series 1 to fall into our Medium classification and the Series 2 to fall into Medium-Soft. However, one is at the softest end of Medium, and the other is at the firmest end of Medium-Soft. So the point here is that they are extremely close in overall softness. And with regards to durability - we do think these are an improvement, yes. Specifically, the new Black Line has increased the density of their polyfoams, added latex on many models, and (on some models) has used a slightly thicker coil than the previous generation. All of these slight adjustments should improve durability. Here is a complete roundup of all our assessments of both of these models, side by side: www.goodbed.com/compare/?mod=beautyrest-black-series-1-medium-pillow-top&mod=beautyrest-black-series-2-medium-pillow-top I hope that's helpful.
@@goodbed Thank you for your response! This is very helpful. We are still debating between a series 2 MPT and a Helix Midnight Luxe. I've been reading / watching your review on that bed as well. In your professional opinion, are the 2 beds comparable in comfort and durability? Thank you so much!
@@coolguysixtynine Also a good question. There are two ways to look at this. In terms of the foam quality, we'd say that these are roughly comparable. Both the BR Blacks and the Helix Luxe models tend to use better foams than most of the industry. At the level of the coils, these are slightly different. The BR Black coil unit is a unique "Triple-Stranded" pocketed coil that alternates with more conventional pocketed coils, while the Helix Luxe is a more conventional pocket spring with a center zone for additional support. If you're concerned about long-term durability here, we'd probably give the edge to the BR Black coil, which we think is one of the best on the market. Hope that helps. I've also put these models into our compare feature if that's helpful to you. Best! www.goodbed.com/compare/?mod=beautyrest-black-series-1-medium-pillow-top&mod=beautyrest-black-series-2-medium-pillow-top&mod=helix-midnight-luxe
@@goodbed Thanks Mike, very helpful as always. Last one, I promise -- between the series 2 MPT And series 3 MPT, which is considered softer in your database? I think I saw you had numerical values assigned to each bed and I was just curious since both beds show "5" in the comparison tool for softness. Thank you!
@@coolguysixtynine Those are nearly identical, but... the Series 2 MPT comes out to a 5.4 and the Series 3 MPT comes out to a 5.2. In terms of other aspects, the Series 3 has a little more memory feel, a little less bounce, and a little better edge support, among other subtle differences. You can see those all laid out here: www.goodbed.com/compare/?mod=beautyrest-black-series-2-medium-pillow-top&mod=beautyrest-black-series-3-medium-pillow-top Hope that helps!
Hi. I am in desperate need of your help. Given your insightful video, may you please tell me which of the series and feel would be best for an all sleep positions person with a classic luxury hotel feel? I have the LX-Class plush hybrid. It's too cushioning; I am sinking into the mattress and having major discomfort/pain. With that said, It seems a mattress with more innerspring might be best for me. I just do not know which of the series is best given my concerns. Possibly series 1 or 2 with a medium feel? Please, please advise. I would love to select for the Memorial Day sale event. Thank you in advance!
Hey Jessica! I think your instincts are correct here - the Series 1 or 2 in Medium would be closest to that hotel feel. However, you might still consider the Plush options, which we believe uses a slightly firmer coil unit than the previous Plush models. Hope that helps!
I would check out the Series 3 Firm. I have lower back pain and sleep on my stomach/side. I love a soft mattress but found this model to be supportive and comforting in all positions. The 4th of July Sale is still running where I work, plus they offer price match guarantee for 120 days through your sleep trial. You could catch this deal and even the Labor Day deal, which is probably the next big one. I have a Tempur-Pedic Lux Breeze Soft with a base but I think I am going to put it in the guest bed and jump into the Series 3 when it gets here Friday.
Michael what would you say the best mattress for men 220lbs and wife 150lbs….I used to have a king coil but they just don’t make like they used to. We have a Tempur-pedic but its never really been comfortable. I don’t think I’m going to spend that much money on a mattress again. Thinking on going back to serta or sealy inner spring bed would be preferred i think
I wouldn't make the mistake of thinking just because you had an expensive Tempurpedic, and you didn't enjoy it, that all expensive mattresses are bad. I would HIGHLY recommend you check out and try Airelooms, specifically their Preferred Collection, and above (Preferred, then Karpen, then Kluft Collection). Probably the most comfortable mattresses, with the best materials and construction I've come across. Second to them, with a slightly different feel, but also great are the Pranasleep Karma Hybrids and Dharma Collection. They are very comfortable, well built, sleep cool, are breathable (way more breathable than a pure foam mattress) and mostly use various firmnesses of Talalay Latex.
Hello, I'm searching for the beauty rest black that the ritz carlton uses, I believe in the past it was a Napa Lux Plus..which one is that they you have some of here?
We wouldn't say that one is necessarily better than the other, no. Both use similar materials, including layers of memory foam, latex, and underlying pocket spring systems. There is a slight difference between the pocket spring systems (the Stearns is a coil-in-coil design and the BR Black is a braided coil), but we think both of these are quality options. The differences here are largely going to come down to personal preferences. Here are both models broken down in -depth: www.goodbed.com/compare/?mod=stearns-foster-lux-estate-medium-tight-top&mod=beautyrest-black-series-2-firm
So confused between B-K versus Series 1-4. What is the difference? I'm a side sometimes back sleeper and I get hot flashes due to menopause, 250 lb. What is the best matress for me?
The Series 1-4 build on the previous B-K Classes and add better foams and new quilts. They also remove the center zoning on the coil units that Beautyrest experimented with in the B-K line. In your case, we'd likely recommend taking a look at the Series 2 and Series 3 Medium models. These have unique cooling features which can help with hot flashes and should have the right balance of support and comfort for combination sleeping. However, if you'd like another opinion, you can try our Mattress Matching Quiz which accounts for body type and specific conditions like hot flashes. You can see that here: www.goodbed.com/mattress-finder/quiz/
I just read this 2024 line is junk. Why? The diamond shaped pattern of the mattress top can be felt when sleeping on it and made it really uncomfortable a lady said on BeautyRest site.
So we did not have that experience with the quilted pattern. In fact, we'd describe the quilt as very soft and very quality overall. Still, different people tend to feel things differently, and it's not unheard of for people to dislike very specific things about mattress quilt layers.
Hi there -- Yes, it is. It looks like we landed on "Medium" for that C-Class Plush PT, and it was even toward the firmer end of that classification. The nuance here is that the softness of these two models is very similar once you get a few inches into the mattress, but the Series 3 has a lot of pillowy softness on top of that, whereas the C-Class has a firm top layer that gives the mattress a firmer feel overall. You can see in this comparison that the difference in cushioning depth is less pronounced: www.goodbed.com/compare/?mod=beautyrest-black-series-3-plush-pillow-top&mod=beautyrest-black-c-class-plush-pillowtop I hope that's helpful.
Hi, i am considering the series 3. Do you happen to know if they contain harsh chemicals or what they use for flame retardants? Does the mattress have a to strong smell? I have chemical sensitivities and am concerned about offgassing.
Good questions. In our experience, most quilted top mattresses use rayon-based fire barriers, which we'd think we'd be non-harsh. And most mattresses tend to have a bit of a chemical smell to start with, although we've historically noticed this a lot less with Beautyrest Black models. Hope that helps!
I just bought the new black 4 series K plush pillow top and I literally HATE it, it has no support and I’m 115lbs . I wake up with awful lower and upper back pain . I need to switch it out and don’t know what to switch too? Any suggestions? I slept in my guest room on an old sealy and it felt fabulous unfortunately they don’t make them and I need a king as well as another beauty rest from mattress firm . 6,000 later and I’m in pain every morning 😢
Hmm. I think if you want more support than you should probably look towards the Purple Luxe line. If you want comfort AND support I’d recommend the Rejuvenate Premier Purple. Of course, you would have to lay on it first, though. But that’s only if you’re willing to spend a lot of money and want the luxurious feel. Totally up to your taste, but honestly you spend half your life on a mattress, so you gotta make it a good one, so I’m just giving you that recommendation.
@@The_EmployeeLC thanks for the recommendation I’ll look into both lines in the “purple” . I’m trading my beauty rest in this week. I broke my neck when I was in my early 20’s so I do need something firmer but not to firm that it hits pressure spots. Thanks again
Hi Alex -- The company has since emerged from bankruptcy and is newly recapitalized with a much better balance sheet now. So I don't think there is any overhang from the previous bankruptcy that would have a negative effect on the products they're making today. If anything, we're seeing that the foams in this Beautyrest Black quilted line (which is the first new line that they have designed and released post-bankruptcy) have gotten some nice upgrades.
Hi Mike- we tried the series 3 plush P/T- it was way too soft and too deep cushioning. The series 4 medium summit P/T felt nice but painful for my wife’s hips - she is a 118lb side sleeper- same with series 3 medium. those are the only three that are being displayed in the stores right now. we are considering ordering one site unseen. Choosing between series 2 medium pillow top or series 2 plush. we do not like the sinking in feeling of a mattress, but need the mattress to be soft enough for hips and shoulders for side sleeping. The series 3 medium pillow top also an option, but it does have one layer of high density firm foam so not sure if that will be soft enough for lightweight side sleeper. What would you recommend?
Hi Lee -- Thanks for your question. Glad to help. I'm not surprised the Series 3 Plush PT was too soft and deep, since it's at the far end of the spectrum for both of those characteristics. Also not too surprised that the Series 3 Medium was a little firm for your wife's hips, but I am a little surprised that this would be the case for the Series 4 Medium Summit PT. Might be worth giving that one another look. Looking at the other 3 you're considering, I think the Series 3 Medium PT looks like the best bet for you guys. It's got less cushioning depth than the ones you said were too deep, but enough to offer some conformance for a lighter side sleeper. Overall, it's pretty close to the Series 2 Medium PT in feel, but I think it will be a little better for your wife in terms of pressure relief and conformance. Relative to the Series 4 Medium Summit PT that you tried, it will have a little less softness, a little less cushioning depth, and a little less memory feel, but it should perform similarly in terms of pressure relief and spinal alignment. I think you might like looking at a side-by-side comparison between the 3 you're considering and 2 of the ones you tried (I had to leave off the Series 3 Medium since I can only show 5 at a time and that was the one that seemed like it was the least apt for you guys). The ones you tried are on the left and the ones you're considering are on the right. www.goodbed.com/compare/?mod=beautyrest-black-series-3-plush-pillow-top&mod=beautyrest-black-series-4-medium-summit-pillow-top&mod=beautyrest-black-series-2-medium-pillow-top&mod=beautyrest-black-series-2-plush&mod=beautyrest-black-series-3-medium-pillow-top I hope that's helpful!
Hi again Mike- tried the C-class plush in store today and it was soft and not too deep cushioning and no pressure for wife on her side-would the series 2 plush be the closest to that? Or the series 2 or 3 medium pillow top?
@@leealbert4485 Hey again Lee - I think your instincts are correct here. The Series 2 Plush or the Series 2 or 3 Medium Pillow Top would be the next options to try. Keep us posted if you can!
I have the Black C-Class Plush. How do you compare that mattress to the new Series 3 Plush PT? Is it worth swapping to that one with the nano coils and all that? I’ve had this one for about a month. I like it but I think a supportive pillow top would be nice. Also the memory foam looks really nice compared to the C Class. I feel like this doesn’t have anything like that.
Hi there -- Thanks for your question. There's a lot of similarity there, but you will get a bit more memory feel and cushioning depth on the Series 3 PPT. Here's a side-by-side comparison of everything you need to know about each of these two models: www.goodbed.com/compare/?mod=beautyrest-black-c-class-plush&mod=beautyrest-black-series-3-plush-pillow-top I hope that's helpful!
@@hastensavoir7782naw im 160ish and really like the soft for side sleeping. I sometimes do wish I had a little more support or something on top so that’s why I was curious about this new model. I’ve only had it about a month though so it definitely still is breaking in
@@mckaykimball but it doesn’t (Plush) make your hips sink more than a couple inches right? Something that my current mattress (Medium-Soft Eurotop) gives me
How would you compare the bounce / cushioning / memory feel of the 2024 series 1-4 to the 2022 c-class? It seems like at least the series 2-4 have less bounce, more cushioning, and more memory feel compared to the 2022 c-class? (I’m particularly looking at firm and extra firm options - wanting more bounce, minimal cushioning, minimal memory feel. Considering going with the 2022 c-class firm or extra firm. I tried a c-class firm yesterday and it felt much bouncier than the 2022 b-class extra firm!)
Also, before seeing your 2024 review, I left a comment on your 2022 video :) Mainly wondering: does using an adjustable base with the firm mattresses break down the firmness (in a bad way) and do you recommend going with the beautyrest adjustable base or would a different brand of adjustable base (like Seely or tempurpedic) be OK?
@@recidivist26 Just saw your other question first. Starting with the parts you didn't ask there: * First, we do agree that the C-Class XF has a touch more bounce than the B-Class XF: www.goodbed.com/compare/?mod=beautyrest-black-c-class-extra-firm&mod=beautyrest-black-b-class-extra-firm * In terms of comparing the C-Class as a whole to the Series 2/3/4 as a whole, we did in fact find that on average, the latter has 1 point less bounce and 1.3 points more cushioning depth. The memory feel was almost identical overall, but the Series 2/3/4 had about half a point more "delayed recovery" and half a point less "delayed response". So to the extent you were focusing on the recovery time, we'd agree there as well. Net, perhaps we need to hire you as a tester! 😎 In terms of your other question, copying the answer I posted on the other video: On balance, bending your mattress on an adjustable base does add a little bit of extra wear and tear, especially if you've got it flexed to the max by fully elevating the head and foot to the max at the same time. However, in the way that most people use an adjustable base, I don't think the "cost" in terms of accelerated wear and tear outweighs the benefit that you get from the adjustable base features. In terms of which base you use, the main reason to get a matching base is for the matching aesthetics. Beyond that, bases are generally interchangeable and aren't designed to work specifically with one brand of mattress over another. I hope that's helpful.
Hi there -- We had the Series 3 Medium as a Medium-Firm (4) on our softness spectrum, and the Series 3 Firm as a Firm (3). So, not a huge difference in that respect or others TBH. While I might have leaned slightly toward the Firm for you out of the gate, it would not be a strong inclination and certainly could be over-ridden by your comfort preference. So on balance, I don't see much upside for you in switching, especially if you preferred the feel of the Medium. Here's a complete side-by-side comparison of the two: www.goodbed.com/compare/?mod=beautyrest-black-series-3-medium&mod=beautyrest-black-series-3-firm I hope that's helpful.
@azaddonikian1265 One last thing. The only other mattresses that I tried besides Airelooms, that were both firm feeling, yet conformaning and supportive, were the Pranasleep Karma Hybrid and Dharma collections. They're not your classic innerspring (the hybrid is a mix), but they sleep very cool, are very breathable (especially compared to regular foam mattresses), and have an excellent feel. They also use very high grade materials, mainly Talalay latex, and are well constructed.
I’m considering the 3 series 15.25” vs the Tempurpedic Tempur Adapt. I currently sleep on a Tempurpedic and love it my concern is will I be able to adjust to the black series after sleeping on a Tempurpedic for so long.
Hey there! So great question. A quilted top mattress will absolutely feel different than a Tempur. There are new BR Black Hybrids that are slated to hit the market later this year, but we haven't seen an exact release date on these as of yet. These are likely to feel more similar to the Tempur Adapt (though not the same). Still, the Series 3 is a very high quality mattress and could work well for you. It's just likely to feel very different relative to the Adapt!
To everyone wondering , do NOT buy Beautyrest. It’s an absolute low quality mattress , whether that be the lower end or “higher end” models including the Black series. RU-vid a video Anatomy of a Mattress by Mattress Makers and they tear up the inside and show what a horrible product it is. Low quality coils, glue just randomly splattered to have the layers stuck together , shifting of the layers etc. It’s basically Walmart quality at premium price. And this isn’t to discredit this video , because it has nothing to do with him. But Simmons makes crappy products. Their formas are low quality , really low quality. No hand tufted mattresses, just crap.
Actually, that video they graded the mattress a "B" they said it had great coils. They didn't like the glue and felt there was too much foam - This was a KX plush model. It was rated a "B" because of the high price tag, but if you look you can get clearance prices on beautyrests. I would supect if you paid 30% less than retail they would grade them even higher than a "B".
