Beckett MUST Change All 9.5s to 10s! 

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Great mix of Hobby News. My favorite thing about Beckett, is the sun-grades. It’s wild to me that cards have less information on their graded cards in 2024. Any card over a certain $ amount should have not only sub-grades, but a full report on why and where the blemishes are when you search the serial number on each card. TELL ME WHY MY CARD IS ITS GRADE. Beckett should lean into that.

This is an awful idea. Beckett should not change. What they should do is get decent turnaround times, price points and customer service.

The kids in the backgorund😂

If Beckett handed out 10s like PSA, they would get more customers. Its not hard to see why people use PSA. 😂😂😂😂😂

If changing the BGS gem mint grade from a 9.5 to a 10 is a supposed solution, you need to explain why an SGC 10 still sells well below a PSA 10

I think Geoff is typically spot on, however I think he is wrong about Beckett changing their grading scale. Embrace their history double down on sub grades and 9.5 gem mint. Cut down turn around times and do customer service brilliantly is how they become relevant again. There is no path to success eliminating the 9.5 grade.

PSA will be out of business soon. They're overcharging on grading fees and damaging customers' cards on every submission.

I don’t want the 9.5 changed to 10s. Bought BGS 10 for a special premium in past years and now to erode that rarity?

I have a beckett graded 9.5 of 2000 upper deck steph curry rookie and it definitely is a 10 in my book...

One other problem would be Beckett regrading the 9.5’s sent for a conversion to a 10. I believe Beckett has a reslab policy where they regrade everything sent in. So, I could see some people being upset/getting hosed if their 9.5 comes back with a lower grade.

CGC already figured out this 9.5 / 10 situation. I have been buying cheap 9.5s and regrading to 10 for $5.

No…. Pristine 10s carry too much weight as a premium item to the psa 10 so unless you *POSSIBLY* make it a lower tier like a new bgs gem mint 10, bgs pristine 10 and then the black label all else will fail. (IMO) collectors own too much $ in premium grades

if bgs will to give out 10s like psa their value will drop, bgs low sale is due to the slow turnaround and maybe high price but that is why their 9.5 is slightly price higer than or same as psa 10. For me even a 9.5 is worth keeping than a psa 10

Lol he should have ran out and gave those kids a high 5, joined the twerk and continued the show lol epic.

Psa should add subgrades

The kids twerking 💀

SGC also grades 9.5. The grading scale is not the problem. I own several BGS 10 and the BGS 9.5 Lebron gold Refractor.p not to mention plenty other 9.5 gold refractors and gold prizms still prefer keeping the 9.5 as is.

Honestly, PSA reached almost Monopoly status, for in This Era, seems most hobbyists lost their collector dog fighting skills. Instead of knowing how to grade a card, they live and die by ONE company that just Wrote The Check and Took Over Card Grading. Thing is: from what many see, SGC actually does superior work in most aspects of the grading process.

Good video 👍🏼..the Beckett situation is definitely interesting. They were my go to pre 2020. I would love to see a comeback by Beckett.

Why do you want BGS to look like PSA, I mean, that's the all point for BGS to keep the subgrade. What is killing BGS is the turnaround time! Quantity, quantity, quantity! That's the only way to follow PSA, SGC.

That's why I bid at the last moment. Only bid what you can afford, then you do go past your limit by bidding each other up.

I love when you guys do this on the channel. This shit I like 💪🏼😎

Didn’t you just make the point for the need for a 9.5 grade? “The best looking PSA 9 you’ll ever see, if you squint its a PSA 10” -

I have a beckett 10 pristine and I paid a premium for that and don't want it diminished.! Unless they come up with a special label like a red chrome label or something. Something other than a word ( pristine) to differentiate the 2 grades

First time I think I ever agreed. 10 pristine and black labels that exist will become even more rare. Reholder all 9.5 as Gem Mt 10 and partner w Fanatics…

Best part of this video is the boys twerking at 06:54 I literally laughed out loud!

We've all won auctions before that we regretted the next day...But most of my regrets are over $500 cards, not $3.7mill cases!

Jeff nailed it. Would you rather see a 9.5 or a 10 on a card? Sure a beckett 10 is crazy good but you hardly see it. Most people want to see a 10 and nothing less.

No way. No way. The 10 pristines and black labels, carry such a simple prestige. You're scaring me now, Jeff.

IMO, the issue with BGS doing away w 9.5’s is that all the millions of BGS 9.5 Gem Mint cards in the secondary market will lose their appeal and value even more so than they have over that past several years. It wouldn’t do all those cards and their owners justice.

I agree to get rid of bvg labels. Need unified naming since singular company. I think conversion would only be good for cards with two 10s and two 9.5s to pristine. 9.5 total grade comes in a variety of sub grade combos so not all 9.5 should be upgraded to pristine. Grading was a mess 25 years ago and it still is. Good luck to us all.

Make the grading scale like PSA and make subgrades free and standard. That would differentiate themselves from PSA.

I still bid and buy Beckett. Love the sub grades and there slabs are nice and sturdy.

Beckett needs to keep their grading scale. It is what differentiates them from PSA and others. They need to promote it not capitulate to pressure from the new collectors of all of 4 years. They have sub grades which are a great thing and the Pristine 10 and Black label 10. Their slabs are the best in the market too… they have the best product just need to market it that way…

Regarding BGS there are 2 big changes they need to make, and BGS 10's isn't the main one. They need better customer visibility in their receiving and grading process. And they need to be quicker to return cards. PSA is actually turning around cards pretty quick now. Its great that BGS dropped the price, but I dont want to wait 2x as long as PSA just so I can turn around and sell a card for 65% of PSA value.

Beckett's lack of decisiveness hurt their value as a company. They are supposed to be one of the groups who makes decisions on the quality of our collectibles. If their judgment wavers on this, what else will they waver on?

Problem is that will cost Beckett so much money to do. They need to stop 9.5s, no doubt. But backtracking those into 10s will bankrupt the company that's already near bankruptcy.

PSA could offer all 9.5 BSG graded cards a guaranteed PSA10 if submittied or something along those lines.

Let's INSTEAD focus on PSA giving out 10's that are 6's and vice-versa! 😮 At least Beckett and SGC give out the grade your card ACTUALLY is! 💯

Their prior scale change would have made a lot of cards slabbed “gem mint” no longer “gem mint”. BGS cannot do that with customers over decades…. If it was slabbed and sold gem mint, it needs to stay that way…

I have purchased a lot of BGS 9.5 Cards in the past. Now I buy them to have them Re-slabed by PSA. In my opinion is that a Gem Mint should be a 10. Seems like more and more BGS 9.5 's sells for the price of a Mint Plus at this time. I'm not submitting to BGS untill they change their grading scale to Gem Mint 10. In my opinion .

BGS will be out of business in 5 years. They have no clue where their business model is going

Beckett needs to lower the price on bulk submissions. Even though they dropped the price on higher end services with faster turn times, why would someone submit through them if they are trying to sell a card? BGS has turned into a PC company. Nobody is sending in to them because of their value. Changing a BGS 9.5 to a 10 will not change their value. If you don't understand what a subgrade means and what the value of them are, then you aren't going with BGS in the first place. All that changing a 9.5 to a 10 is going to do it make the fans of BGS and people who own BGS 9.5s and 10s, upset. They are essentially saying that a gem mint grade is no longer a gem mint grade and you have to send it in to the company, for a fee, to get it reslabbed.

Id take a Beckett with 4 9.5s over a PSA 10 any day

Simple: BGS upgrades all 9.5’s to 10s and all 10s to Black Labels. Everyone wins that way!

Imagine taking a 20 question test in schools and getting a 90. You know you missed 2 questions. But the teacher/professor ONLY GRADED the test and didn't mark which 2 questions you missed! This is the equivalent of no sub-grades (little to no idea of what was wrong). Now imagine that instead of missing 2 questions, you only missed 1, but got the same grade as someone who missed 2! That the equivalent of the of doing away with the "half" or .5 grading system. Becketts' problems are and always have been turn-around times and customer service. Just my opinion: BGS has always been a stricter, but more consistent grading company. But their unwillingness to put forth the time, money or effort to keep up with demand after the pandemic (or even catch up) gives the impression of a "money grab before the doors close".

Free marketing for the re-auction. Thousand are now aware it’s on auction. It will go higher

Had a very bad experience will never use Beckett again ever again!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Id prefer beckett 9.5 over psa 10 everyday

I've been saying Beckett 9.5s are dumb for 20 years.. don't want a "gem" grade with 9 corners. Plus i hate their thick slabs that weigh a pound, feels like you could throw it like a ninja star and kill someone with it

What would nonblack label 10s become then?

I own the highest bgs graded 86 fleer set at 9.5 overall which took over a decade to put together and would not be happy if beckett changed their grading scale. There are different levels to 9.5 and to have them all be considered 10s will only benefit short term investors.

Much like the responses here, the feedback is mixed. Some like that BGS arguably grades harder, others not. Completely changing now, would alter nearly 25 years worth of grading. They need to educate new consumers, why there is value in the transparency of sub grades. Then they gotta offer value to sub with BGS. If asking the same price as PSA, why go with BGS, other than upcharges.

Beckett needs to improve their inner sleeve's clarity or get rid of it. It's the major reason why I don't grade with them anymore because the inner sleeves kill the slabs' displaybility

Doug is 💯 colorblind.

I call bullsh*t on the graders! Where not in the old days when you opened up a pack of cards gum stuck to them. You would handle the cards, put them down on the table that would be a little dirty. You would put a rubber band around them. Today you pay top dollar for your packs of cards, you wear gloves and open the packs carefully. You only touch the edge of the cards, you put the best cards into card holders right away and the others go right into card sleeves! And even after going to all the trouble of taking such great care it’s almost impossible to get a 10 from the grading company. People need to wake up, cards are treated 1000 times better than the olden days! We’re talking cards that get graded that are brand spanking new hardly touch if at all and we can’t get 10’s on brand new cards just out of the pack! When you look at all the brand new cards compared to the amount of 10’s you know there’s something wrong! You put a graded 9 up to a graded 10 and see if you can find a difference, I have with a magnifying glass and can’t find the difference! It’s bullsh*t.

4 energy drinks probably means he was on something. Now that it’s worn off he’s got regret.

Getting a 9.5 is usually because of margin of error of a grader and can see a factor of pop control. You can take a 9.5 to psa and get a 10 out of it, so logically they are going to lose people. I rather crack a 9.5 and resubmit to PSA so it's always going to be a loss to beckett

That is one thing BGS has that other grading card companies do need to add, are the sub grades. Yes i agree make them 10s, but do not get rid of the sub grades, terrible idea.

Is there value in collecting the Topps yearly Team Packs from stadiums? Open / Unopened and Complete League Sets?

Yes, a 9.5 bgs doesn’t hold the same value as a psa 10 BUT a bgs 10 often holds a higher premium over a psa 10 bc as of right now we KNOW if becket put a 10 on a card, it really is a 10. They hardly ever give 10s when they aren’t warranted. ESPECIALLY a black label. I think if they do the same thing that cgc did, it will flood the 10s market with fake ones & then there is no more premium for them.

Imagine all the BGS 9.5 owners needing to send their cards back to get a Gem 10 slab! Sending cards valued in the tens of thousands back to be cracked out. Forget it!

Not a fan of the grading market as a whole right now. Don’t like how PSA is the driving factor for purchasing. I like SGC personally and think the value of their grades will rise. But for Beckett to adjust their scale based on consumer feedback is sad. It’s like public schools adjusting the grading scale to get more kids to pass…. Collectors want better grades…. Send in better cards…. Parents want better grades…. Help you kids with their homework…. You cant adjust your system and change the rules just to make people feel better about how they spent their money

Simple mathematics on the Case of OPC is number of packs times the current price for an unopened pack...

The kids 😂

Totally agree. I think they should eliminate half grade. Upgrade from 9.5 to 10; 8.5 to 9, give better values for the owner. It’s fine to keep the sub grade to give extra values vs PSA.

If you have to wait 2-3 months on a turn around and have to pay that price sucks on all the grading companies.

Bring back the old set this look is not good

The 9.5 is the dumbest decision in history of sports cards by a wide margin.

Totally missed the boat. You guys said it just after last year's Mint, they needed to capitalize on their marketing snafu. They sent out the surveys, and did absolutely nothing about it.

The point of 9.5s becoming a 10 is a joke, TCG collectors crave the BGS 10 and black labels, One piece demand has helped them so much. Very naive to disregard TCG collectors as sports cards collectors

The kids in the background had me chuckling 😂😂😂

Beckett was top dog until the pandemic hobby explosion and id buy a beckett 9.5 over most psa 10s

Beckett has no excuse for changing. PSA's reputation took a huge hit and they pivoted and recovered. Even though their prices have not gone down to the old days, they showed that as long as people view PSA as a high quality grading company, people will pay up.

Psa should add a 9.5, I see 10's in their slabs that are not 10's, hell not even 9's

While they do need to figure this out, I do not want to see a card with zero sub grades as a 10 and see a 10 as the final grade.

6:55 😂

Beckett are the best of a bad bunch

Sorry Geoff, I usually like your reasoning... but in this one I gotta disagree. What if they moved the 9.5's to a 9 based on any reports that caused the card to miss the 10 grade it would have gotten by being a perfect card. We all want 10's I think though, thats the prestige of it though. They literally need all things to go right. Just odds, I remember for example, getting the Vladdy topps rc, with a nick in the corner. As a collector, nothing I could do about it... but realize, I had a cool, but damaged card that is just not a 10. Still a fantastic rookie of a fantastic player though, but ultimately will likely be a pc card for forever and a day.

To Beckett: yes, it is necessary. I sent my idea for a change to Beckett for the second time. it would be a game changer. I would like to share my idea with sportscardinvestor

if beckett converts 9.5s to 10s please let me know i will need to sell my premium-priced 10s before it gets diluted with lenient grades

6:54 Look at the kids in the back

I would use the word “stop”, rather than the other adjective that was used in this thumbnail

Does Geoff really own his own buisnesses or remember why Beckett changed back the grading announcement? The grading change just did not make sense because the averages for subgrades did not make sense. Also changing all 9.5 to 10s is a good way to screw up the existing supply and demand. In my opinion that does nothing but take away credibility from Beckett. You can't just be like "oh lets change this because people will be happy and prices will go up"

Beautiful take on this.

3:50 can’t disagree more. The purpose of a .5 grading scale with four categories of grading used to be valuable as it tells you exactly where your card maybe be flawed. You money chasers all just want stacks of Gem 10s which would seriously deflate the value of all other 10s across the hobby.

Please. SGC sucks

Grading popularity is driven on final sell value. I'd argue that SGC jumped in popularity when the reports record breaking vintage sales were reported to be in Tuxedos. BGS has maintained a standard and is known as the toughest grading service when it comes to getting 10s. Resellers will go to any service that gives them a higher grade to increase their ROI. IMO, BGS needs to hold their line of quality. Don't change! Don't sacrifice their reputation for sake of making a buck. Getting a BGS 10 means far far more than getting any other grading service 10. AND it's funny that you folks didn't mention anything about the upcharges involved with final grading scores by PSA, which esssentially alienates collectors will little means. Meanwhile, BGS charges a flat fee that allows collectors of lesser means to get their cards graded by a reputable company. BGS all the way!

Honestly, I see both sides I've been collecting since the early 90s and beckett still holds weight as a name for me due to that. That being said their slabs feel cheap and the labels kinda look it. Psa slabs feel and look better and cleaner. Imo that's a much much greater issue than 9.5 vs 10

Really change the hobby and upgrade all 9.5s to an 11. 😂😂😂

So what would be the best card grading company for under 20 bucks?

I'll keep my black labels, you can keep your PSA 10s... 🤣 9.5s are severely undervalued, a good portion of have potential to grade PSA 10.

Right all PSA 10s are 10s lol😂

Love subgrades. They need to keep them to remain being diff. Everyone has opinions but will complain no matter what, either way.

does geoff have a big 9.5 card?? We need T-Pot to be the voice of reason.

Beckett moving forward should keep it simple! 7’s 8’s 9’s and 10’s! Get rid of that .5, the card is close to perfect or it’s not. Today packs of cards are far more expensive, we open them carefully, we wear gloves, cards go straight into card holders or sleeves. Cards are being graded right out of the packs, they’re brand new and almost not even touched at all! Brand new cards should be getting 10’s! There should be boat loads of brand new cards getting 10’s! The technology is 1000 times better cutting and centering cards today. That’s the big problem with the graders not giving out 10’s when they know damn well the card deserves it. Instead you submit a brand new card right out of the pack wear gloves only touch the edge of the card put it straight into a card holder submit the card and get back a 9 grade, sorry it’s bullsh*t. Really what the card graders are saying is the card company doesn’t have any quality control and that’s bullsh*t. Then get this you get back a graded 9 and the grading company says resubmit the card for a price and magically that flaw that got the card graded 9 automatically disappears and the card becomes a graded 10! Funny you give them more money and your card becomes perfect! Far as the cards that already have .5 just leave them in the population, if someone wants to crack the card out of the case and resubmit that’s fine. And if someone is okay with the .5 that’s up to them.

some people should use their natural talents to stick to selling used cars

I think Beckett should change the 9.5s to 10s.

Beckett should buy Cards HQ