@@hermanhoppe3773 I really wish people stopped using woke to describe anything they don’t politically agree with. It’s lost all its meaning and it’s just become a buzzword
@@zendrive-4904 there was a Vice Article during height of Covid that Transgender are the real victim of covid delay. My grandmas knee surgery was 7 month late cuz of covid. It happened to millions but hey some Mentally ill guy couldnt get castrated was the real victim. There was a vice docu where they called ww2 reanctots Nazi. Vice with SPLC called LP mises bunch of racist.. Yeah WOKE is a buzz word.
My stepfather is a retired sniper of the Mexican Marine, when he married my mom and be able to become a citizen he had to spend a few years in Ciudad Juarez until the process was finalized. His roommate told him to never tell anyone he was a retired Marine because the cartel would come knocking to join them or be killed if he declined.
So much for saying that no one has to join of they don't want to. I feel sorry for those young men cause they sound like this is cool and they feel purpose. Just listen to them. It's like they get pride from this. Damn no wonder the country is in hell.
@@jc6800 Theyre talking about their cartel organization in Sinaloa doesnt't force people this comments talking about a city in Chihuahua so completely different organization with no ties to Sinaloa or how they operate
@@gluebreeza1999 The Sinaloa Cartel is rival to the Juarez Cartel, they've been fighting each other for years here. In the last week they're has been several killings and burnings due to the rivalry, the mayor has instructed civilians to stay home for their safety.
My cousin became the police chief of a small town in Mexico. He tried to clean up the corruption that he saw within the police force. But they had him killed and threatened his mom when she went looking for answers.
Yup yet they claim that the public loves them in reality citizens fear the cartel honestly it's the Mexican governments fault for letting it get out of hand
It's quite sad and also frustrating to see the sheer arrogance of this boy. As soon as he has a little power and wealth he thinks he is the one. Showing off. Telling his elders how it's going to be. Casually showing off murder videos whilst eating. He will end up in one of those murder videos himself and some other young boys will be the ones watching him get smoked. A cycle that will probably never stop. Sad.
Nunca se detendrá mientras existan los adictos x que no dicen que ellos también son parte del problema .pues cada toma de su droga están tomando sangre tortura y sufrimiento.detesto a los adictos
Speaking as a person that lives next door to this. This is 100% authentic. Great job to Vice on this. The camera man has a lot of balls risking his life.
@@trazenitram312 Just someone that knows what he talking speaking to you man don't act like you ain't tell me to stay in my lane acting like I know stuff. Just speaking on what I know buddy
Years of living a dangerous life and being on the wrong side of the law has taught me that a tough man knows when and how to get out of a situation, but a smart man never gets himself into one.
Yo tengo un hermano desaparecido y al escuchar el llanto de la señora me traslado al mismo instante en el cual yo estuchaba un lamento podría decirle Identico saliendo de mi madre, rompi en llanto por que imaginé que el hombre que la abrazaba dando un consuelo en ese momento prácticamente nulo a la señora eramos mi madre y yo
Very good documentary, thank you Vice. One of my friends at school was part of a cartel. He managed to hide it so well from everyone, I had absolutely no clue until one day he just straight up asked me if I'd be interested in joining too. I declined and he tried to persuade me to join, but I kept refusing and luckily for me he eventually accepted my decision. We lost contact shortly after that. Though after not hearing from him for more than a year, I happened to meet him on my way to work and he told me he's doing fine. Sadly this was several years ago and I haven't heard anything from him since then. I don't even know if he's still alive or not and I often think about him and the possible reasons he might have joined a cartel. He was rather quiet and shy and not your typical gangster kind of person. I know it wasn't about money either and it saddens me how many kids and teens are actually talked into or even forced to join which is what I believe could be the reason he got into the cartel.
There's several reason why a young nerdy guy like that joined cartel.. *Probably looking for friends *Probably he desired many things he couldn't afford *Thought it was cool?
¿El cartel proporciona dinero para los reclutas y tiene un salario mensual superior a los salarios del estado, o para una persona que no tiene un certificado o alguna calificación para ingresar a un trabajo civil regular con un buen salario?
@@messier8379Sempre existirá um motivo. Por exemplo: Se você entra em um emprego normal, além do salário baixo você é sujeito a vários tipos de humilhações. Isso além de receber um salário baixo, isso só mostra como o próprio estado promove esses tipos de situações promovendo entradas de armas e drogas, deixando passar pelas fronteiras até mesmo armamentos de guerra, logo os jovens já se identificam com aquele modo de "Respeito", coisa que ele não teria se estivesse em um trabalho comum, misture tudo isso em necessidades próprias para que um jovem entre nesse caminho. Necessidades do tipo: Falta de grana, falta de respeito, abuso que algumas ou todas as empresas cometem.
Sad knowing the 2 men in this documentary who want to be sicarios probably won’t be around for long. All the dreams that one guy has of being financially successful and helping his family may never be a reality because of this lifestyle. You live by the gun you die by the gun.
A long time ago when my father was in Mexico he told me a story about a drug dealer who came into the bar he was at. He pulled out a wad of cash and bought the whole bar a round of beers. My dad asks the guy what work do you do. He said he deals drugs. My dad asked why. He says "Look man, I'd rather be rich for a portion of my life than be poor forever." That saying always repeats in my head. Those are strong and vivid words.
It’s always crazy to see people like this living their lives, in other countries we see them as monsters but they are really just adapting to their environment and doing what they have to for their family. Just seeing them sitting around talking really hits different, I don’t know how I could live knowing I might be killed at any second.
That’s because you don’t live in Chicago lol, but no 90% of Americans and western Europeans live in a suburban or rural bubble where the worst qualities of humanity have been held in check so long by law enforcement, that people have forgotten what it would be like if the police didn’t exist and only think about the police when get in trouble or when one of them screws up.
Maybe they’re at peace with their fate. They can be at peace with passing away, which I believe everyone should be. They were highly demonized, from what I can tell. Come to find out, they may have been more moral than our own militaries, or anyone who demonized them, for that matter. Like you commented, they were adaptable and chose this way as a viable path to achieving their dreams.
The last sentence says it all: a man will give his life and soul away for any cause because he must feel useful. He'll violate his morals and go down a path of destruction of himself and of others just to give have a sense of purpose and give his life meaning.
🍏🍏 The C I A nurtured the cartels in the 70s/80s to move their “substances” and got a cut of the profits. By all indications, they’re still using them for this, since nothing has fundamentally changed.
Want to expose the government? Look no further than your neighbors. Those who provide arms to cartels in exchange for profit and those who provide capital to cartels in exchange for illicit substances. They are in league with groups that should be classed as FTOs.
I had a friend who was associated with a cartel in mexico, but he wasnt a full member yet. He would transport drugs part time for them on this side of the border with his tio who was a full member. My friend would always ask me to join & transport with him & i would always say no. He was cool with my answer tho he never got mad or forced me to join. I hope he's still alive & doing well 👍
This was the best VICE video ever!!! I adore most of their content, but this was... I can't believe I watched this on youtube nowadays! Loved it! Good work!
The journalist definitely took a lot of risks by being around these people and seeing what he did and that’s definitely worth commending. I don’t disagree that these guys are pretty savage but they are clearly products of their environment. They grew up around all this violence looking up to narcos who had money and respect. They had little money or respect themselves. When you see violence on a regular basis you become desensitized to it. They tried going to school, considered immigrating to America, wanted to get into a normal profession but in the end the only opportunity that panned out was this one. I’m not saying they are good people but they were monsters that were created by society. If you had grown up in the circumstances that they had, you may also have turned out like they did.
@@shaan702 i understand.. But still if you get shot consider yourself lucky. I've seen a cartel ki*ling video where a guy ripped out a piece of the victims heart(while he is still alive) and ate it. I've also seen toungs and fingers being chopped off. No matter how much money and power i will get i would never do that to a living and breathing person just like me. Society is just a part of this problem. But the choice is always mine.
@@cosmic1897 well luckily if your heart is removed you’ll only be alive for a few seconds. Yea I’ve definitely seen some sadistic cartel videos like the chainsaw beheading and the torturing of women. The reason you and I find that repulsive are incapable of doing such things is because we have healthy brains. The people that do these things have unhealthy brains as a combination of a fucked up upbringing/environment and probably some genetic factors. We cannot yet affect the genetic factors but studies have shown that a healthy upbringing in a healthy society will severely reduce the chances that Anti Social Personality Disorder emerges. Namely, childhood trauma is a major predictor. Constantly witnessing violence around you, being afraid, being desperate, and childhood trauma makes the likelihood a person will become a sociopath much higher.
@@cosmic1897every person can become savage. only reason why you saying that , it’s because you never probably met true hardship. By true hardship I mean when death touches you with its hand . When you starving to death or someone opened hunt on you and your family. When illness slowly take over your weak body . You can say that you will never do some stuff , only because your view of hardships are nothing ,compare to theirs and if you grow up on their place you would likely share their destiny.
These documentaries are really done well, it really does show the reality of cartel world without going in extreme depths and show the people who join these cartels to an broader audience for the most part just dont have any other options left and are in need of moneys which usually stems from there responsibilities of there families. even if what they are doing is morally wrong and not good but u can still empathize with the most of the people who ended up joining these cartels. I personally do feel bad for these ppl as they just end up wasting there entire life by joining these cartels and pretty much this one decision just ends up ruining there life(atleast most of them) either by having a criminal mark in there profiles or just die in the fights b/w laws or other cartels.
These guys are clueless about what they're getting into. Guy says "I won't kill people who don't deserve it". That's not a decision he's allowed to make. he's a triggerman, not a shotcaller. He's a hitman under orders from his superiours who make those determination. whatever he is ordered to do.. he will do. No questions asked. And the other ignorant guy in the white shirt says he just wants money and his future family will not be involved. Once again, his "job" will have him intermingling among cartel members and their families, which is something that is out of his control. Soon enough they will uncover the truth, but by then it'll be too late.
Yeah bro you have to understand my people in Mexico are living In a 3rd world country the government there does help these men and family 👪 those men that are joining or signing up there doing it to earn more for there family they don't have too much opportunities like we do in the United States . 🇺🇲 it's a very different world that they live & come from and have to survive in. And killing is not the answer also some of these youngsters don't have a choice.
@@myyoutubechannel3161 not really. People are just greedy, they don’t live in a remote town in Oaxaca. They live in Sinaloa, there’s a lot of work and investment in that state. I know because my uncle has a small restaurant and lives very well. Another uncle is a tomato farmer and lives well off as well.
This documentary is a powerful introduction of becoming a hitman at a young age for an organization but also exposing the dangers of this radical lifestyles . The pursuit of getting ahead and being financially stable is hard in Mexico.
solid documentary, the transition from independent traffickers to actual cartel members is fascinating but at the end of the day, they are living on borrowed time, best case scenario they make enough money to retire early, worst case is they end up buried in a mass grave some where. also it would be great if Vice could document the Colombian and Guatemalan mercenaries currently fighting and training sicarios down there.
"i can't tell you how old i am, it could lead back to me....that said, lemme tell you about the highschool baseball club i frequented and at what age i started...also see this? It's a memorial for my best friend who got killed, we grew up together" ....yeah bruh...thank god you didn't tell them your age...completely untraceable now
About four or five years ago, I found myself in a security holding cell due to I was wrongly accused of domestic violence by my then-girlfriend in Chihuahua, where we lived together. Before being transferred to prison, in that tense moment, a man and his son entered. When it became night, the man, unexpectedly, offered me his leg as a makeshift pillow for me to rest my head on. They stayed by my side, providing unexpected comfort. It wasn't until we reached the prison that I knew they were associated with the Sinaloa Cartel. Surprisingly, they remained kind and supportive throughout my time there, offering care and protection until my release. Their unexpected generosity left a lasting impression on me. *Greetings from Monterrey, Mexico 👋🏻‼️*
Good to see Vice still manages to make a few gems here and there, the stuff that initially was so captivating. Just like the coverage of the Ukraine conflict in the early days, The fight against ISIS, Kurdistan... All of that stuff, quality.
“Does he know that part of the job of hitman is that you kill people?” I swear to God this is the absolute dumbest question a cartel member has ever been asked!
I have to work tomorrow and I stayed up although I have to get up really early tomorrow. This documentary was so shocking and fascinating at the same time. I really hope that the situation will get better some day …
Thank you for giving them a mask, blocing their faces, and putting in an absolute best voice distorter. This stuff is realy important nowadays and i respect that.
As a Mexican American who understands this type of stuff its kinda scary how The US doesn't really talk about this type of stuff when it's the Next door neighbor of Mexico
