Beethoven, Neunte, "Ode an die Freude", Pape, Kaufmann, Meyer, Schwanewilms 

its the best

Try Japanesse 10.000 persons one

I was told that the real hero’s sing in the CHOIR by a great Opera Singer Sorts the boys from the men so to speak before Bullshit political correctness of course A woman’s point of view at the time lol So never demote yourself 😊

@@johnblasiak607 Have you ever heard of punctuation, Sir??? What in the world are you trying to say???

Lucky you!!!

Richard Hallberg to busy killing each other over tribal god images.

I just had the same though in my mind: WHY can humans not listen?

B8

2 Timoteo 3:1-5

what are we human beings thinking, we don't care about life, love of our fellow man. We seem only to want to wow and then stomp on each other. Divide and conquer, are we just wild animals? Things and money , we seem to worship power and money! There have always been those who created beauty and peace and there were also those who worship a false God that wanted attention through nothing but violence . How did it get so out of control? I am 80 years old and hope to see my great great grandchildren pick apples from my tree,,,G0D help the leaders of the world seek peace and cooperation so that we will continue to live and love one another, thank you,

😊🎉🤗🙏🏻🤩🥰💛💚🕯️🥳🥲🔥😁😳oh, große Göttin, ich auch! Es scheint, dass alles in mir schwingt, wenn Kaufmann&Chor singt. Der holde Wahnsinn...ich liiiiiiiiiiieb es! Hat meine Tochter bereits vor 14Jahren in meinem Bauch hören dürfen! Ihr Papa sang damals auch, nur im Kirchenchor.😊😊 Heute spielt meine Große Keyboard&Linkshändergitarre, als hätte sie nie was anderes gemacht😊- & sie hat alles immer von sich aus gemacht (ich selbst kannte Leistungs&Leidensdruck durch Leistungssport&Landessportschule) & hat sich beim Schauspiel angemeldet! Ich freue mich unendlich für mein Kind, dass sie mutig ihre eigenen Wege findet & geht!!!💪🏻

Es una composición increíble que escuchándola no tiene nombre y parece que me transporta al cielo. BEETHOVEN EL GENIO

After you have enjoyed 5 or 8 beers German is a very amazing language! ;-) Es lebe Europa. Viva l'Europa.

German is *not* at all a hard or hoarse language. It is incredibly melodic, amazingly flexible, and altogether gorgeous. I'm French and I'm fluent in 5 languages. By far, by very very far, German is to me the most beautiful of them all. And besides, Germans are usually quite soft spoken (unlike drunk, but who cares).

Germans soft spoken - depends on the region where you are in Germany. By the way bavarian is most popular dialect in Germany and is soft spoken. When you go up North it is more hard spoken.

I lived mostly in Freiburg and in Regensburg.

@ Rachegotter Hope you could enjoy the times you lived in Regensburg and Freiburg.

me 2

Best part at 7:05

hahaaa omg

That may be due to the fact that the first voice is bariton, not bass (even though René Pape is indeed naturally a bass).

Beethoven is my God! Beethoven ist mein Gott.

+Michael Doyle René Pape is a German opera singer, who had his debut with the Berlin State Opera (Unter den Linden) in 1988, and with the New York Metropolitan Opera in 1995. Because he and the other soloists are German, their pronunciation of the lyrics is perfect, and it sounds as Beethoven intended. Two of these opera soloists---Pape and Meier---also appeared (again with Daniel Barenboim) in the PROMS 2012 performance of the ninth symphony in London---part of Barenboim's Beethoven cycle. In that performance, Jonas Kaufmann and Anne Schwanewilms are replaced by Michael König and Anna Samuil, respectively. If you loved Pape's performance here, I think you will also love Michael König's performance there. (The four soloists were dressed in red, gold and black, putting the colors of the German flag smack-dab in the center of Royal Albert Hall. Still, some people probably didn't catch on.)

It isn't perfect diction, which isn't surprising. It's pretty commonplace for singers to be lax in their native tongue's diction. There are a lot of times that vowels which should be long are short in this performance and vice versa. The first instance of it is when Pape sings the word "Stimmen" with the i vowel pronounced like English "ee" when it should be like the I in the English word "sit."

+Thomas Eastham I should qualify this with even highly accomplished professionals make dumb mistakes sometimes.

Yes. Fantastic diction and "meaning"

it's very hard to sing i as in sit, since the longer eee is more natural -- and not only for GERMAN singers!

This version had to be perfect, Berlin, Brandenburger Tor Platz unsw. So strange that the ruling elite may thrill to the melody but the powerful libretto, simply passes them by. A clear case of....Let those who have ears hear.

well, they are Germans. They can pronounce their own language... they are brilliant here, this is incredible singing.

Both René Pape and Jonas Kaufmann are Germans :)

It is not enough to be German to have a perfect diction when singing, actually even professional singers with great voices can have very bad diction in their mother tongues.

@@luomodelloggione6564 Wonderful article! Thank you very much for the link! Best regards.

I think he heard it in his mind ...

***** Yes, you are right.

+Der Joker Yes, and nobody would have cared about the poem if Beethoven hadn't set them to the voice of God.

German you're right :D

No, Schiller

HighKingTurgon The poem of Schiller was popular, before Bethoven set it to music.

+Doris Valles También es el himno de la Unión Europea

Oberst von Krößbach unter so einem lied hetzen, aber was von vaterlandsliebe labern, hut ab..

Oberst von Krößbach so besser? mein gehirn war wohl noch zu benebelt von ihrem drang mal groß und mal kleinzuschreiben (ps: auf deutsch übrigens englisCh, sonst hat es sowas paradoxes)

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Stupid Brexit Party MEP even turned their backs on this !

Well, move over Brits...we’ve got Trump destroying our country here in the U.S. Stay safe! May we survive these dark times.

Won’t work, pearls before swine, so won’t work .

+agung purnomo You really enjoy it: that's enough!

was macht dich daran stolz

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⁠@@hankscorpio3959Deutscher zu sein.

Warum auch nicht? Leben und lassen😊

La magnificencia de esta obra es inconmensurable, eternamente viva.

Sebastian Stenzel so true!!

Thomas Stock Some tenors just dont sing it the way Kaufmann did here. The quality of his voice is thick, yet does not get lost in the mud of all those singing and playing. Unlike all other's I have seen/heard, yes they hit the notes just like Kaufmann does but there is this certain thinness to the quality of their voice. It is like Kaufmann= Condensed milk, all others= skimmed milk.

Sebastian Stenzel Well Jonas Kaufmanns motherlanguage is german, so he understands it how to time and pronounce evrything better! And I think his voice is absolutly unique! I think the conductor knew it ;)

Im sure Daniel Brenboim did.

Seconded and I have performed in Beethoven 9 many times. Heard it countless times. Always a stunner. But Kaufmann NAILED it! (BTW, the conductor is Daniel Barenboim, just saying'.)

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Central Park? Sure.

We could draw the crowds, not sure if the Americans, or anyone else could evoke the same feelings of Beethoven’s music or Schiller’s poems.

violinlife Yes he did, but Jonas Kaufmann too!

RikVermont8 Jonas Kaufmann 2017

Ron Simmons I‘ve heard the 9th at least 10 times live with Barenboim, it’s always wonderful. He’s one of the greatest Beethoven conductors imo. Also wonderful his West Eastern Divan Orchestra. One rendition in Bayreuth with the Festspielorchester was the best I‘ve ever heard, but this one comes very close 😍

@@mathildewesendonck7225 thanks for the recommendation .

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Das lied ist voll cool

Morino Kogu Schiller was my favourite author when I was a teenager...and I have always loved Beethoven’s 9th.

Alle Europäer, mein Freund, können stolz auf Beethoven sein.

@@marvinradermacher5781 Nur war Beethoven nicht sonderlich stolz auf sie. Und wenn man von der Probe kommt und den Fernseher anstellt, werden wieder Bilder von Aleppo gezeigt. Als ich die "Neunte" das erste Mal mitgesungen habe, waren gerade die Golfkriege zugange.

@@malte996 Naja...

@@malte996 Egal, singe, singe es immer wieder!!! Die Welt braucht es. Im Geiste singe ich mit. Ich probe es auch gerade wieder in einem großen Projektchor und singe seit über 50 Jahren 👍😁🎶

Q

Indigo Bone you either feel a connection to all or none at all, wars shaped europe more than anything else

Yes, but I was referring more to the Nazis and the horrors of WWII. This was much later than Beethoven, thus, I do not need to feel connected to such atrocities. And, I would rather not. I know it's inescapable, but concerning Beethoven, it is removed, at least somewhat.

that's what i meant too, choosing only the good sites of your roots is bs, how can you say you feel a connection to germans when you want nothing to do with the third reich? and germany didn't exist yet when beethoven was alive, so what to feel connected about?

Wow, thank you for the history lesson, of which I am well aware. But thanks. As for the Third Reich, that was, technically, the Nazis, and not ALL Germans. Splitting hairs, I realize, but it's a hair I'm more than willing to split. It's there. It's a part of the history. But I don't have to like it, just as I don't have to like the hellish roller coaster on which we are about to embark in America come January. I don't like it.

GTFOH

Q: why does it say "BarDenboim" on my screen?

bravaLiz misspelling most likely

@@bravaLiz A few have difficulty spelling the Maestro's name.

Ich bin Stolz das ein Deutscher so was schönes, der Welt hinterlassen hat!!!

@@hennisliwinskl2316 Siehst du, du fühlst es auch. Du hast die Musik nicht komponiert, aber IN IHR die gemeinsame SEELEN-VERWANDSCHAFT wieder erkannt.

Dieses Werk wird die Welt immer begleiten und vielleicht verbessern. 😎😎👍👍

Marly Harris yess he is a very beautiful bass

Marly Harris 7

Goosebumps!!! Fantastic!

Pape is always Thrilling!, wonderful singer.

Marly Harris Pape qua canta con una tecnica poco perfetta come un dilettante . questa e' la mia modesta opinione .