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Before Limp Bizkit: How Nu Metal Became Pop - Revisited 

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For a brief moment in the late 90s and early 2000s, Nu Metal ruled the airwaves. With releases such as KoRn's Follow the Leader, Limp Bizkit's Significant Other and Linkin Park's Hybrid Theory, the genre had commercial clout, but critically fared less well. However if you were a teenager at the time, nothing else felt like its white-knuckled throat-shredding catharsis. Not only that but the genre fused together many different sonic elements that previously seemed incompatible. But how did we get here? What were the vital steps along the way? And was it really all for the nookie? This is How Nu Metal Became Pop.
#LimpBizkit #NuMetal #MusicDocumentary
Fact-checking by Chad Van Wagner.
Soundtrack
Luar - Citrine ( / luarbeats )
Jesse Gallagher - The Golden Present
Luar - Anchor ( / luarbeats )
00:00 Introduction
01:07 Run DMC
04:05 Beastie Boys
06:15 Faith No More
09:31 Bring The Noise
11:42 Helmet
14:46 90s Hip Hop
18:57 Rage Against The Machine
21:40 Pantera
24:01 Clawfinger
25:29 Korn
28:48 Deftones
31:04 Sepultura
34:15 1997
40:30 1998
45:40 Limp Bizkit
Louder Than Hell: The Definitive Oral History of Metal, Jon Wiederhorn & Katherine Turman, 2013, Harper Collins
“Faith No More - Artists of the Year” Frank Owen, Spin Magazine, Dec 1990
“Ice-T Interview” Andy Gill, Q Magazine, Sep 1991
“Helmet: Big Boom in Industrial Metal” Michael Azerrad, Rolling Stone, Aug 1992
“100 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die” Kerrang! Staff, Kerrang! Magazine, Jan 1998
“They love bands called Snot and Orgy and dress like S&M fans. Welcome to nu metal“ Dave Simpson, The Guardian, Dec 1999
“666 Songs You Must Own” Kerrang! Staff, Kerrang! Magazine, Nov 2004
“Interview - Page Hamilton (Helmet)” Cosmo Lee, Invisible Oranges, Dec 2010
“Pantera Look Back at 20 Years of ‘Walk’” Kory Grow, Spin Magazine, May 2012
“Pantera's 'Vulgar Display Of Power': The Epic Story Behind A Hostile Masterpiece” Jon Wiederhorn, Revolver, Jul 2012
"15 Years On - Was Nu-Metal The Last Musical Tribe?” Al Horner, NME, Sep 2013
“Was It Really All Just For the Nookie? A Rational Explanation of Nu-Metal“ Tim Karan, Diffuser, Nov 2014
“Korn’s 1994 Debut LP: The Oral History of the Most Important Metal Record of the Last 20 Years” Christopher R. Weingarten, Rolling Stone, Dec 2014
“Under the Influence: Korn's James "Munky" Shaffer” Dave Kerr, The Skinny, Jan 2015
“Rage Against the Machine Bassist: ‘I Apologize for Limp Bizkit’” Jason Newman, Rolling Stone, Sep 2015
“The Nu Metal Years, Part One: Are You Ready?” Gareth Watkins, Cvlt Nation, Dec 2015
“The Inside Story Of When Run‑DMC Met Aerosmith And Changed Music Forever” Geoff Edgers, The Washington Post, May 2016
“Serenity and suffering: confronting Korn's dark past” Mörat, Metal Hammer, Oct 2016
“Deftones' Chino Moreno: ‘Adrenaline? Those were wild times’” Metal Hammer, Oct 2016
“The story behind Sepultura's Roots” Dom Lawson, Metal Hammer, Oct 2016
“Incubus on nu-metal: 'It always made me cringe'” Kate Hutchinson, The Guardian, Apr 2017
“20 years of nu-metal: the rise, fall and revival of rock’s most maligned offshoot” Tom Connick, The Guardian, May 2017
“August 18, 1998: Korn, Kid Rock, Orgy & The Biggest Day in Nu-Metal History” Kristen S. He, Billboard, May 2018
“7 Things You Didn't Know About System Of A Down's Self-Titled Album” Jon Wiederhorn, Revolver, Jun 2018
“In 1998, rap-rock and nü-metal really did seem like the future” David Anthony, AV Club, Aug 2018
“Oral History of the ‘Judgment Night’ Soundtrack: 1993’s Rap-Rock Utopia” Christopher R. Weingarten, Rolling Stone, Sep 2018
“Korn's Jonathan Davis On Nu-Metal” Jonathan Weiner, Kerrang!, Sep 2019
“Clawfinger im Interview über Konzerte, Kohle und kritische Songtexte” Andreas, Burn Your Ears, Nov 2019
“Dez Fafara: How Coal Chamber saved LA and why nu metal rules” Joe Daly, Metal Hammer, Feb 2020
“Korn break down their debut album track by track” Paul Branigan, Metal Hammer, Oct 2020
“The Story Behind The Song: Bring The Noise by Anthrax and Public Enemy” Joel McIver, Metal Hammer, Nov 2020
“The story of nu-metal in 14 songs” Nick Ruskell, Kerrang!, Aug 2021
“Revenge of The Freaks: How Nu Metal Took Over the World” Dave Everley, Metal Hammer, Sep 2022
“8 Musical Groups That Influenced Nu-Metal” Lauryn Schaffner, Loudwire, Sep 2022
““It was like holding a f**king live wire”: how Rage Against The Machine’s explosive debut album changed everything” Dave Everley, Metal Hammer, Nov 2022
“Run DMC thought Walk This Way would ruin them: instead, it saved Aerosmith” Greg Prato, Classic Rock, Jan 2023
“How Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Korn and the rest took nu metal from hated subgenre to the biggest thing on Planet Earth” Dannii Leivers, Metal Hammer, Aug 2023
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@TrashTheory
@TrashTheory Месяц назад
Every now and then I get people asking for a playlist of every song mentioned in my videos: Well here's a Spotify link for this one: open.spotify.com/playlist/6zAwXVjm19CTGMMqItaHqY?si=7de7cdb96f7045b8 and the RU-vid Music one: music.ru-vid.com/group/PLooaZ33lSalfYA5iieOyW4czkRSviBYHS&si=DMISvWu3vo7oCBR0
@thepeacefulenemy4026
@thepeacefulenemy4026 Месяц назад
Oh that’s so awesome. Thank you!
@LNVACVAC
@LNVACVAC Месяц назад
Thank you!
@klyanadkmorr
@klyanadkmorr Месяц назад
What abt Skunk Anansie? They're Selling Jesus Again? That album was good.
@edgarwalk5637
@edgarwalk5637 Месяц назад
Cheers!
@edgarwalk5637
@edgarwalk5637 Месяц назад
@@klyanadkmorr I was thinking that. They also have electronic elements, so that could be a new topic altogether, which would be 👌
@jackiespaceman
@jackiespaceman Месяц назад
“Babe, cancel yoga. TT’s talkin’ bout the BIZKIT!!”
@LisaBabe85
@LisaBabe85 Месяц назад
Literally listening to this on my way to a full moon yoga class 😂😂
@jr-fu6gj
@jr-fu6gj Месяц назад
i hate my generation. #Rubyfreeman
@MrWayout74
@MrWayout74 Месяц назад
@@jr-fu6gj hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Same rules apply
@jasongarcia2140
@jasongarcia2140 Месяц назад
​@@jr-fu6gjwhy
@whiteydiamond
@whiteydiamond Месяц назад
Cringe
@r3strt
@r3strt Месяц назад
don't forget about the time that "Killing in the name" became UK Christmas no.1 in 2009 just to protest against X Factor
@dinzy14
@dinzy14 Месяц назад
Fuck me, was that REALLY 15 years ago?! I’m gettin’ old 🥴
@juicemofo
@juicemofo Месяц назад
Their BBC performance is one of the funniest things I've seen in my life. ru-vid.comeo34LFFWNPQ?si=IF7tG8_loGcFnczv
@sonikku956
@sonikku956 Месяц назад
That might have been left out because RATM is a rap metal band, and not a nu metal one (despite how influential they were to nu metal)
@mrECisME
@mrECisME Месяц назад
Ironically they only did this Because they were told to
@fragglebrock6772
@fragglebrock6772 28 дней назад
I worked at Sony when it happened, v funny. Both songs owned by them. Joe McElderrys product team trying to get the RATM song taken down 😂
@OmahaGTP
@OmahaGTP Месяц назад
This era was as amazing as it was terrible. You had to be there and I am glad I was.
@misterthegeoff9767
@misterthegeoff9767 Месяц назад
I'm too old for emo and too young for punk, of course I was there!
@micktorrans8123
@micktorrans8123 Месяц назад
This is the perfect description
@demo3456
@demo3456 Месяц назад
it was our generations music. I was 14 in 94 and Nu metal was my soundtrack. Like a lot of us.
@lainiwakura1776
@lainiwakura1776 Месяц назад
@@demo3456 That extends to the early 2000s, when I was in high school and SOAD was around.
@roelfkromhout
@roelfkromhout Месяц назад
Well put. I’m kind of protective of it as that stuff was my youth, but the reality is that the vast majority of nu-metal is real awful. With a few notable exceptions. Deftones for instance, I think they had already managed to move past the nu label by their second album really.
@alphacrisis
@alphacrisis Месяц назад
That woodstock line up was insane. No surprise it all went up in flames.
@lanagievski1540
@lanagievski1540 Месяц назад
Casual Bananarama name drop was insane
@izaakbakker9531
@izaakbakker9531 Месяц назад
but so right
@beezlebub3955
@beezlebub3955 Месяц назад
Angel Dust was and will always be absolute fire
@Armakk
@Armakk Месяц назад
Best alt-metal album of the 1990s, hands down.
@MadGeorgeProductions
@MadGeorgeProductions Месяц назад
Agreed, although we sadly lost the guitarist as he thought it was disco bullshit or something like that.
@colletti914
@colletti914 Месяц назад
You heard it here, folks. Try PCP!
@beezlebub3955
@beezlebub3955 Месяц назад
@@colletti914 🤣🤣
@jupiterthecity
@jupiterthecity Месяц назад
@@MadGeorgeProductions No big loss. He'd totally be the type of guy who is still deeply concerned in 2024 about "posers" infiltrating metal
@LordMarlle
@LordMarlle Месяц назад
I've always thought that Limp Bizkit's skills as musicians were underrated. Sam Rivers funky basslines, Wes Borland weird riffss ,and John Otto's drumming. A much better band than the haters would have you believe
@leadme2thebliss21
@leadme2thebliss21 Месяц назад
Limp are a good rap rock band, definitely can't touch KoRn but Korn were more of a nu metal band and Limp were more of a straight-forward rap-rock band. KoRn and Limp are 2 very different bands when you really think about it. I have to admit though Limps rhythm section is genius! Sam and John are quite a duo...I think most peoples issues with L.B are obvious, Fred Durst has a very limited vocal range and overall just isn't the greatest singer...
@simplenough
@simplenough Месяц назад
Their image and fanbase ruined their credibility
@wigs666
@wigs666 Месяц назад
Fred Durst was such a bozo, any of LB's interesting bits were overshadowed by his personality
@leadme2thebliss21
@leadme2thebliss21 Месяц назад
@@wigs666 He was a douche, for sure.
@Daneki
@Daneki Месяц назад
Take em to the matthews bridge!
@XavierGoncalves89
@XavierGoncalves89 Месяц назад
Chester's screams eventually got me into all the screaming stuff, screamo, post-metal, post-hardcore etc, so I thank nu-metal for exposing me to different stuff
@cheeselad2401
@cheeselad2401 Месяц назад
Linkin Park was a gateway drug for me too
@asuka_the_void_witch
@asuka_the_void_witch 24 дня назад
screamo is SO GOOD post hardcore is sO GOOD
@sstanfo1
@sstanfo1 Месяц назад
You are the only who could get me excited about a Limp Bizkit video 😂😂😂
@austintrousdale2397
@austintrousdale2397 Месяц назад
Finn McKenty: am I a joke to you?😖
@MrMmnngghh
@MrMmnngghh Месяц назад
@@austintrousdale2397 That's not an underrated in joke...that's a HIGH QUALITY in joke 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Yixdy
@Yixdy Месяц назад
​@@austintrousdale2397 maaann, I stopped watching him a long ass time ago. It's weird to say he sold out, because like I *really* would prefer it if every RU-vidr at least ran a patreon and did some sort of sponsorships (preferably non-shit companies, of course) but finn just oozes this like "I got my CCCP tattoo covered up the same day I got my real estate license" vibes
@talesxavier5752
@talesxavier5752 Месяц назад
​@@Yixdyhe was always like that, it's worth remembering that he was Sargent D of Metalsucks, and the articles he wrote were horrible.
@Yixdy
@Yixdy Месяц назад
@@talesxavier5752 oh, interesting I had no idea, I was never one for reading or caring about reviews of music and stuff because when I started getting heavy into music (heavy into heavy music?) the Internet was nearly in it's current state so I could find stuff on my own. Anyways, I think I'm going to go through and read finn's old metal sucks stuff and have a laugh lol
@ludouniversalis
@ludouniversalis Месяц назад
The transition from Clawfinger's to Korn's slur-titles was brilliant and made me laugh out loud. Great documentary as always!
@zombielynx21
@zombielynx21 Месяц назад
Break Stuff is a perfect single. It's all dynamic shifts and mood.
@simplenough
@simplenough Месяц назад
Any fan of rock music should see them perform it once in their life
@zenleeparadise
@zenleeparadise Месяц назад
The lyrics are obnoxious and obvious and uncreative and hearing that song always makes me chuckle. I listen to it for a good fifteen seconds before inevitably getting sick of it immediately and changing the station, though admittedly it's usually with a smile on my face and a playful head shake. It's a bad song. Its good qualities are not enough to overcome its bad qualities.
@TheInsaniacGuy
@TheInsaniacGuy Месяц назад
​@@zenleeparadise You just clearly have never packed a chainsaw & skinned an ass raw.
@ReXtion88
@ReXtion88 Месяц назад
Wes Borland is a fucking genius
@colletti914
@colletti914 Месяц назад
​@@zenleeparadiseThank you. I'm actually admittedly a big Limp Bizkit fan, and that song is just so boring to me. I have no idea how it got so big.
@blouburkette
@blouburkette Месяц назад
The McDonalds of Metal just about sums it up. Still enjoy it. TT: You should cover Ween. I think it would be a fun long video for you.
@Borninxixax
@Borninxixax Месяц назад
Before (and After) Ocean Man?
@yondie491
@yondie491 Месяц назад
Considering how in depth these videos are, that would have to be at least five hours long.
@1travstone
@1travstone 21 день назад
Ween is an incredible band.
@ArchangelThunderbird
@ArchangelThunderbird Месяц назад
wow, i did not expect to see the guano apes in here. lords of the boards and open your eyes were hilariously huge in the german skater and snowboard scenes.
@Eric_Hunt194
@Eric_Hunt194 Месяц назад
Remember going on a school exchange to Germany, and all the German kids were really into Guano Apes. It was round then that I was in my "mosher" phase so i picked up Proud Like A God from Ändra in Münster.
@TheBlackD
@TheBlackD Месяц назад
Their music was quite common in extreme sports videos. Those videos had such a cultural impact back in the days.
@Scriptadiaboly
@Scriptadiaboly Месяц назад
Ukraine loved GA - especially 2000 and 2003 albums and Path with Apocalyptica
@nyengster
@nyengster Месяц назад
We loved them here in Denmark too
@danel1922
@danel1922 18 дней назад
where H-BLOCKS though?
@memunns
@memunns Месяц назад
Great video. Worth noting: Limp Bizkit played on Day 1 of Woodstock '99, Saturday. The major damage happened on Sunday, the next day. Fred Durst is a douche sure, but Limp Bizkit can't be blamed for Woodstock 99. They had no part in the terrible conditions, terrible security, planning, etc. They just went and played like they were supposed to.
@xReflamed
@xReflamed Месяц назад
I love how many female artists you included in the end reel with contemporary artists!
@franohmsford7548
@franohmsford7548 Месяц назад
Should probably have given at least a mention to the likes of Human Waste Project and Kittie who were there in the 90s. Yes I know Kittie have done a Deftones and disavowed Nu-Metal but come on :)
@Nick2Fish
@Nick2Fish Месяц назад
​@franohmsford7548 several of the bands featured in the video have at one point tried to distance themselves from the nu-metal label, some just gave up, accepted it, & rolled with whatever it brang
@goslin91
@goslin91 Месяц назад
Without being up to that point yet, I'm going to say Poppy, and then probably Chvrches (because they're always mentioned in every video)
@misterthegeoff9767
@misterthegeoff9767 Месяц назад
@@Nick2Fish I think at this point it's how you separate the good nu-metal bands from the derivative trash. If you have ever said "we aren't nu-metal" then you're probably worth a listen!
@joeyree22
@joeyree22 25 дней назад
“United by the power of weed”, ain’t it the truth!
@rolanalberto3064
@rolanalberto3064 Месяц назад
I likened FNM’s “Angel Dust” to Weezer’s “Pinkerton”: critics just never understood those albums from the time they were released. Now, both albums are considered cult classics on numerous “Top tier” lists and pioneered the development of their respective genres: Angel Dust was to Nu-Metal as Pinkerton was to 2000’s Emo and Powerpop. Commercial flops that were became timeless classics 👌
@BigBubbaloola
@BigBubbaloola Месяц назад
Please do a deeper dive on Faith No More. They are sorely underserved here on YT about their careers and spin offs.
@GP1138
@GP1138 Месяц назад
I still maintain that Korn's first album is a fucking monster. It's juvenile at times, but it's brutal.
@nothingelse1520
@nothingelse1520 19 дней назад
Yeah their first album is the one that truly stood the test of time, I am into high end audio gear and I use Blind to test stuff constantly.
@wallac11
@wallac11 Месяц назад
Thanks for recognizing Prong's influence. A very underrated and influential band.
@NateTheGnat
@NateTheGnat Месяц назад
They were years ahead of their time. And once the rest of the world caught up with them, they had already disbanded.
@izaakbakker9531
@izaakbakker9531 Месяц назад
@@NateTheGnat saw them and helmet a couple of times in the last few years. Helmet definitely want to show how good they can do cool jazz . Prong are still angry. Actually clawfinger Were really fun live as well . One of my favourite current bands is ho99o9 industrial trap death metal hardcore punk . with outfits. lovely
@vadersjester
@vadersjester 19 дней назад
I remember hearing Who's Fist Is This Anyway at a friend's house in the 90s and "Playing for the hate team" immediately made me laugh and start listening properly. Quality band.
@WILD__THINGS
@WILD__THINGS Месяц назад
18:15 And to take that one further, on the Limp Bizkit song "Stuck" Fred Durst raps "All I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi. Far from Suicidal, still I get them tendencies"
@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125
@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125 Месяц назад
Trash Theory talking about nu metal. Today’s going to be a great day!
@juliangheiler7646
@juliangheiler7646 Месяц назад
At around 32:30 the line about people accusing Sepultura of selling out with their single-string riffs on “Roots” really pisses me off because it’s pure ignorance. If you know anything about capoeira or Brazilian culture you’d know that the sound (especially in the sample riff in the video) mimicks the sound of the tradition instrument berimbau. It’s extremely clever and well done.
@mrrodriguezHLP
@mrrodriguezHLP Месяц назад
Middle school and peak nu metal coincided with me, I was trouble. I realized by freshman year of high school the genre might be shallow. I was learning the guitar, and I picked up the tablature book for Significant Other, and realized Break Stuff is exactly TWO chords. I was able to get a store exchange for the Smashing Pumpkins Siamese Dreams tab book. I still suck at guitar, but I'm glad my tastes have grown and can admit my love of nu metal without shame or irony.
@xxtool420xx
@xxtool420xx Месяц назад
lol "or whatevers going on with Mudvayne" lol
@craigcharlesworth1538
@craigcharlesworth1538 Месяц назад
I think it was around the time I heard Papa Roach that I knew nu-metal was done. Deftones were and are a legitimately great band and Korn were obviously pioneers, while Bizkit were... well, Bizkit were Bizkit. But Papa Roach were the point where I realised this was going the same way as grunge and Britpop; every label trying to sign up anything that moved until the market was flooded with shite. Shortly after that came Alien Ant Farm and that was really when I felt like the wheels were coming off. Was it worth it? We got Deftones out of it, and Slipknot, Korn and SOAD had a handful of good tunes. As a metal fan, it was fun to see something adjascent to the music I liked actually getting played on the radio and appearing on Top of the Pops. So yeah, it was alright. But it really doesn't need a fucking revival.
@misterthegeoff9767
@misterthegeoff9767 Месяц назад
Papa roach was my lesson not to buy an album off of the strength of one song. I still enjoy Last Resort but if ever a band deserved to be a one hit wonder it was them.
@iamcode.4
@iamcode.4 27 дней назад
Yep. That general era very clearly became the time companies figured out how to take something that was popular and wrap it in a radio friendly package to shove down everyone's throats.
@asuka_the_void_witch
@asuka_the_void_witch 24 дня назад
a HANDFUL of good tunes? a handful?
@freke80
@freke80 Месяц назад
This was a really well-researched and insightful video that brought back a lot of great memories from that era of music. I loved how you traced the origins and evolution of nu metal, from the early rap-rock crossovers through the rise of bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park in the late 90s/early 2000s. Your passion and knowledge of the subject really shines through. The way you contextualized the music with what was going on culturally at the time was spot-on. And I appreciated your balanced take - celebrating what made nu metal exciting and impactful for a generation, while also acknowledging some of its more problematic elements. Overall, this was a super engaging and nostalgic trip down memory lane. Your videos are always such a treat - informative, entertaining and crafted with obvious care and attention to detail. Please keep up the amazing work! Your thoughtful deep dives into music history are a real gift. Thanks for putting so much effort into this stellar content.❤
@krissybetty2892
@krissybetty2892 Месяц назад
Living Colour are so underrated, those guys deserved to be way bigger
@JoeMamaBesser
@JoeMamaBesser Месяц назад
THANK YOU for mentioning Prong. Far too often neglected.
@bgorski6937
@bgorski6937 27 дней назад
Agree.👍✌
@martharunstheworld
@martharunstheworld Месяц назад
I'm not a Nu Metal fan, but I do love some of the bands that inspired them. Faith No More, Prong, Helmet, all great music! And of course, even if I haven't heard of the band or even like the music, I'm going to watch your videos because they're really good!!
@allenkramer4601
@allenkramer4601 Месяц назад
Would love a video on the Dillinger escape plan and mathcore in general
@bgorski6937
@bgorski6937 27 дней назад
God I love that band! Good shout. I'd love to see a video on DEP.
@rudolphcordon3017
@rudolphcordon3017 Месяц назад
Thanks to the resurgence of nu-metal, there have been a load of videos lately documenting it's origin and rise. Then comes the serious debate of it's significance within metal. IF NU-METAL DID NOT HAPPEN, THE METAL BOUNDARIES WILL NOT HAVE BEEN PUSHED AND METAL WOULD HAVE GOTTEN BORING.
@Dshado
@Dshado Месяц назад
I can't stop thinking you describing the drop in Killing In the Name Of as "cathartic". Its exactly how it feels.
@pfbmdgn
@pfbmdgn Месяц назад
"Break Stuff" was the 4th single from Significant Other
@Cleindori
@Cleindori Месяц назад
The music of my childhood. I regret nothing, still in the playlist. Thank you for another informative doc!
@ryanl6037
@ryanl6037 Месяц назад
even though i’m a more recent fan, i’m glad the genre is alive and well with new talent and most of the legacy bands are still active
@greyarea6688
@greyarea6688 Месяц назад
Limp Bizkit is something I have a bit of a love/hate relationship towards so I'm very much going to enjoy your latest video! 😂
@leadme2thebliss21
@leadme2thebliss21 Месяц назад
We all have a love/hate relationship with that band lol join the club!
@Psykostatik
@Psykostatik Месяц назад
Love all your videos. Keep up the great work. Sidenote you forgot to mention how Industrial/ Industrial Metal had a huge impact on Numetal as a whole.
@ClockwiseCat
@ClockwiseCat Месяц назад
Let's not forget that Ross Robinson produced The Cure's self-titled album in 2004. It has some good songs, but the production is mostly horrific. However, the best song on the album (Lost) has some clear nu-metal influences.
@baloymoisesrodriguezcolmen7812
@baloymoisesrodriguezcolmen7812 Месяц назад
The best essay I've ever watched about nu metal, you mentioned everything, from classic music to the new "standard" I never expected to watch a video where bands like at the drive in, fleshwater and such other artists were mentioned to explain the whole story of a genre like nu metal, it is like, every single essay out there is just shallow af
@BitzboxTV
@BitzboxTV Месяц назад
This was the music I grew up with during my teens. Can't say I listen to any of these bands that much these days but this video has certainly made me want to revisit them all.
@leadme2thebliss21
@leadme2thebliss21 Месяц назад
Same here, but I never stopped listening to it and I even saw Coal Chamber in concert for the 3rd time last summer with Mudvayne.
@BitzboxTV
@BitzboxTV Месяц назад
@@leadme2thebliss21 I bet that was an epic gig!
@misterthegeoff9767
@misterthegeoff9767 Месяц назад
This is the music I got into in my 20s but seeing as all the bands I was into in my teens are cited here as proto-nu-metal (Pantera, Machine Head, Sepultura etc.) it was inevitable I would get into nu-metal, the people writing it were listening to all the same stuff I was.
@tsartomato
@tsartomato Месяц назад
they just never made anything good since then. they grew up and turned into old people and music is for the young
@NunSuperior
@NunSuperior Месяц назад
This vid sums up my 20's. Other bands (there are so many) : Systematic, Skrape, Rammstein, Mudvayne, Kittie, Infectious Grooves, Grinspoon, Blindside, plus all the tangential Industrial bands and whatever Rob Zombie's stuff is.
@zplapplap
@zplapplap Месяц назад
You’ve created a definitive reference document. Congrats on a job well done. 👍🏽
@bgorski6937
@bgorski6937 27 дней назад
His whole catalog of videos are good and really well researched.
@theheltonator2852
@theheltonator2852 Месяц назад
I still have my original cassette of Body Count with Cop Killer on it
@phillcorpe
@phillcorpe Месяц назад
well done including Urban dance squad and clawfinger
@asuka_the_void_witch
@asuka_the_void_witch 24 дня назад
indeed.
@kydewees
@kydewees Месяц назад
311 were massive in America. Their 1995 blue album had many singles on the radio in addition to Down with videos on constant rotation on MTV. Tons of pop hits in the late 90s. Set the blueprint for Limp Bizkit especially with using a piccolo snare.
@cris_261
@cris_261 Месяц назад
I saw 311 with Incubus as the opening act. Both bands put on a great show.
@kydewees
@kydewees Месяц назад
@@cris_261 Amazing, the band from Omaha, Nebraska often forgotten in the nu metal discussion but I remember 311 being all over radio/MTV back in the 90s. I don't think many realize Korn and Incubus were on the same indie label (Immortal) that had a deal with a major (Epic/Sony).
@cris_261
@cris_261 Месяц назад
@@kydewees Korn developed a big fan base in the 90s in Utah. I don't remember the year, but Korn was part of a show with God Lives Underwater and KMFDM that performed at Saltair.
@lainiwakura1776
@lainiwakura1776 Месяц назад
311 is a band from my childhood in the 90s, the only song I don't like from them that I've heard is their cover of "Lovesong."
@TheJordan75
@TheJordan75 Месяц назад
I feel like the only thing that was not mentioned is the influence of 90's industrial rock and metal on Nu-metal. Also, I feel like Dropout Kings, Slaughter to Prevail and Tallah definitely deserved a mention at the end.
@talesxavier5752
@talesxavier5752 Месяц назад
Also bands like DangerKids, Blind Channel, Blackgold, From Ashes To New, Cane Hill, HourHouse, .bHP, Omerta, Sleep Theory, Hanabie, Ocean Groove, Blood Youth, Static Dress, Vein-fm and Paledusk definitely deserved a mention on this new wave of nu metal bands (and is worth mentioning that metalcore is now very influenced by the genre).
@EmyrDerfel
@EmyrDerfel Месяц назад
Rammstein fit into all of this somehow, but also don't fit in anywhere.
@tdp2612
@tdp2612 Месяц назад
25:30 that transition was beautiful, well done. As someone who knows nothing about nu metal I had no idea what was coming
@Aubee89
@Aubee89 Месяц назад
Love this channel! Thanks for awesome content over the years
@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303
@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 Месяц назад
I would've mentioned Godflesh, if only for their very obvious influence on Korn, but fantastic video as usual
@VuotoPneumaNN
@VuotoPneumaNN Месяц назад
Yeah, they never get mentioned as an influence to nu metal, and it’s absolutely preposterous. Korn based their guitar and bass tone on Broadrick&Greene’s.
@johnbehan1526
@johnbehan1526 29 дней назад
Yeah, there's not enough room in one video to go over everything, but I would have dropped in nod to industrial, NIN are another glaring omission. Pitchshifter and Misery Loves Co weren't big bands but they were definitely part of this equation for me as well.
@johnbehan1526
@johnbehan1526 29 дней назад
Oh fuck and Fear Factory and White Zombie n' all. How can you do rap crossover and groove metal without La Sexorcisto? Anyway, nu metal was kind of a distillate from a lot of influences, too numerous to name. This video did a good job of getting the point across: there's 5 or 6 good bands with one or two essential albums, but it was a flash in the pan as a scene
@VuotoPneumaNN
@VuotoPneumaNN 29 дней назад
@@johnbehan1526 Pitchshifter is totally forgettable and derivative band. Misery Loves Co could have fit as part of a general nod to what was happening around Europe, but they aren’t really that important. Yeah, Fear Factory should have got a mention.
@johnbehan1526
@johnbehan1526 29 дней назад
@@VuotoPneumaNNSo What? Derivative is the point. Pitchshifter drew together Ministry and Godflesh with the mid pace of that "Black Album" Metallica, and they had that early 90's Melvins/Fudge Tunnel/Therapy?/Big Black sound. The muddy guitars, simple and riffs and a more British sensibility in the electronic parts made Korn and Deftones sound pretty familiar to me in 1995.
@WrexsolToob
@WrexsolToob Месяц назад
I think the world is finally ready for a heavy version of 'The Living Years'
@davidmatheny1993
@davidmatheny1993 Месяц назад
My home state of Georgia seems to have a band that finds relevance in almost every subgenre of rock. Sevendust happened to be our contribution to "nu-Metal".
@franohmsford7548
@franohmsford7548 Месяц назад
Great video but I feel that Linkin Park's "In The End" and Limp Bizkit's "Take a Look Around" certainly both deserved a mention along with "One Step Closer" and "Rollin'". - Also nice to see the new female acts promoted at the end but why not mention the likes of Kittie and Human Waste Project who were there in the 90s?
@lainiwakura1776
@lainiwakura1776 Месяц назад
"In The End" doesn't have enough screaming.
@Iram_Ali
@Iram_Ali Месяц назад
I didn't like most of the music in this video, but I really enjoy the way you make these videos, so I watched the whole thing. Excellent work as always 👍
@millerhxc
@millerhxc Месяц назад
"Britain didn't really get Godsmack" I grew up in London and I went out straight away to get that debut album. I loved them at the time. I feel like I knew people who liked them too - maybe they weren't huge but known enough.
@asuka_the_void_witch
@asuka_the_void_witch 24 дня назад
when i was a kid in the early 2000s looking for nu metal (i was already a fan of slipknot and korn) , godsmack was often recommended along with mudvayne, sevendust ,dry kill logic, kittie, coal chamber...
@daviddalrymple2284
@daviddalrymple2284 Месяц назад
As always, I think the "proto" stage of a movement is always the most interesting. In 1996 and 1997, the hard rock scene was full of all kinds of fresh-sounding alt metal bands that defied easy classification. Amongst my peers, at least, Tool was generally considered the top band, although Korn had lots of fans as well. But as you alluded to in the video, Korn had a sound that was fairly simple to replicate (at least superficially). Tool did not.
@pantsnjacket381
@pantsnjacket381 Месяц назад
And that's how you saturate the market
@toppersundquist
@toppersundquist Месяц назад
That takes me back... I gotta listen to Prong again.
@victoriakahl3777
@victoriakahl3777 14 дней назад
This is my favourite video yet. Thank you for this!
@georgechivu4226
@georgechivu4226 Месяц назад
Your research is flawless. Amazing series.
@morganmensa5129
@morganmensa5129 Месяц назад
Korn Life is Peachy was my jam. I still got the promo cassette. This is very well researched and spot on as I remember it.
@BrightLightsTonight
@BrightLightsTonight 12 дней назад
Leaving aside the genuinely interesting overview of a genre that I would have otherwise had ZERO interest in, I need to note that your execution of the gag at 25:25 is flat-out PERFECT.
@TheStubLord
@TheStubLord Месяц назад
this is bringing me back bro, well done
@ObsidianSouls
@ObsidianSouls Месяц назад
Great job for going into more depth. And being candid about not endorsing some of the less savory aspects of the genre's melodies.
@jimmynaccaratto344
@jimmynaccaratto344 18 дней назад
Excellent video! Thanks for your efforts on this!
@tansbizarreadventure
@tansbizarreadventure 28 дней назад
i can’t describe how much i love this channel, i listened to most of the groups you cover when they were past their “prime” and i love the lore that you cover also at 40:32 im dying at the “vanilla ice again” comment
@DFCwastaken
@DFCwastaken Месяц назад
I really appreciate that this video didn't just end with the tired "lmao Nu Metal was just an embarrassing blip in music, we're so much better off without it" kind of takes we see often.
@tsartomato
@tsartomato Месяц назад
only old people would do that or tiny kids repeating after old people who don't even know what they are talking about odd-even generation leaps is how it always was you can see young kids repeating the same crap pukin made up about the 90s and believing it. nu metal is one of the best things in music, better than what was before or after. and that's not because i "grew up" on it or is nostalgic like usaers. i grew up on zolotoe koltso bozhya korovka lube duna exbb. maybe add auktsion ddt gorillaz rammstein to that if we are talking about teen years
@neuroisis85
@neuroisis85 Месяц назад
It was largely complete garbage though. I lived through it and there were only a few good bands and even those sold out very quickly usually after the first album.
@tsartomato
@tsartomato Месяц назад
@@neuroisis85 that's because you are elderly and hate kids these days
@DQSpider
@DQSpider Месяц назад
Nu-metal has had its ups and downs, and its adherents and detractors, but no matter who you are we can all agree that "Bawitdaba" is still the worst thing to happen to music in a century
@ligmaballs2022
@ligmaballs2022 24 дня назад
You look at Kid Rock performing that song at Woodstock 99, and the reaction was spectacular. There are much worse things than Bawitdaba, I ensure you.
@mandu6665
@mandu6665 21 день назад
Indeed. Kid Rock is nothing but a grifting culture vulture rich boy cosplaying as an aww shucks Southern boy who used to rap.
@misterbailey9406
@misterbailey9406 Месяц назад
I love your narration so much in your videos! You even said “Sade” correctly as (shar-day) just like on the original printings of “Diamond Life”. I’m so glad I subscribed 😊
@ricequin
@ricequin Месяц назад
I was sure I remembered hearing Killing in the Name on the Chart rundown on Radio 1 and being cut short after the first “F bomb”. Thanks for confirming I didn’t imagine it.
@kempcky
@kempcky 16 дней назад
So beautifully in depth! Fantastic deep dive!
@c.brogansavage3385
@c.brogansavage3385 Месяц назад
Wow. So incredibly well-researched and put together. I was building a playlist whilst watching. I did start to get a bit depressed towards the end but then you shared the new artists and I instantly felt better! So happy to see the new wave of artists building on this genre. Also Deftones 4eva 🖤🖤🖤
@boothulhu
@boothulhu 21 день назад
25:28 Brilliant cut mate.
@MrJTHOMMO
@MrJTHOMMO Месяц назад
I thought the story with RATM and BBC Radio 1 was that they played live and were asked not to swear but then did and it was broadcast.
@TrashTheory
@TrashTheory Месяц назад
That was BBC 5 Live when it got to Xmas Number One in 2009. It has somehow happened twice. The BBC never learns.
@ReXtion88
@ReXtion88 Месяц назад
@@TrashTheory To be fair, it's a no-win situation. They have to ask Rage not to do the explicit version, and there is no chance that Rage will ever accede to the request
@acetate909
@acetate909 Месяц назад
​@@ReXtion88 BS. They made sure every audience member at there show got the jab. Way to stick it to the man and stand agaisnt the global pharmaceutical criminal cartel.
@SyntaxErr19287
@SyntaxErr19287 Месяц назад
@@ReXtion88only experimental vaccine requests
@ihateyoubees
@ihateyoubees Месяц назад
As someone who grew up in the 90s and listened to Nu Metal (and still do) Sick New World was amazing last year, and it was amazing to see thousands of other people my age listening to the music that I got made fun of a lot for liking. I also want to say thanks for including Guano Apes! They are one of my favorite bands of all time.
@PelleSpokes
@PelleSpokes Месяц назад
Really commendable to remake this video, great stuff!
@ferrarif1w886
@ferrarif1w886 Месяц назад
25:25-25:30 transition simply killed me, so unexpected from this channel and yet so good🔥
@sofascialistadankulamegado1781
@sofascialistadankulamegado1781 Месяц назад
Mate you are the ultimate source of music genre summary. I am stunned by how well versed you are in so many genres. Keep going! ❤
@joshuaboswell80
@joshuaboswell80 Месяц назад
Fantastic work. Love your videos!
@joeyree22
@joeyree22 25 дней назад
Massive Helmet fan here! I have thank my older brother for that! About 5 years ago, I saw them in Berlin’s infamous SO36 for their 30 year Meantime tour! It was sick!!! It was so awesome, I brought my brother and wife tickets for his 40’s birthday!!! I’m an Aussie, but don’t live there, so when Covid hit, no one was in our out of Aus. Fair play to Helmet, they got there and my brother finally got to see them for his 44th birthday!
@laurisaarinen1126
@laurisaarinen1126 18 дней назад
So happy with all the bands mentioned here, you have done better job at documenting nu metal than anyone else on YT. I grew up in the era, and have a lot of love for many of these bands, but weirdly my favorite bands are the ones that kind of "associate" with nu metal but are not exactly. 311, Incubus, Deftones and Slipknot have been mainstays through the years for me. But even Slipknot and Deftones go beyond nu metal enough that it doesn't seem to describe their sound well enough. I end up always loving those bands the most who defy genre labels, like also Faith No More and Jane's Addiction.
@TREACLsales
@TREACLsales Месяц назад
One of your best in an informative and entertaining channel of goodies! I feel less guilty about my Nu Metal pleasures having watched this!
@miahthorpatrick1013
@miahthorpatrick1013 10 дней назад
First class doc, TT! I love that you pointed out more than once that Deftones had a Sade-vibe going on occasionally. Really been getting into Sade lately and I’ve loved Deftones for a very long time.
@Olly__Zines-By-Blade
@Olly__Zines-By-Blade Месяц назад
This video was so fuckin cool, I listen to a fair bit of this stuff but it tends to fall on the more popular side of the genre, so i'm excited to listen to all of the music mentioned and undoubtedly find some new favourite tracks now
@Brad772006
@Brad772006 Месяц назад
Love this video! So much information and I learned some things. Fantastic!
@GaryHiebner
@GaryHiebner Месяц назад
Amazing video! Most comprehensive History of Nu Metal video have seen. Especially all the precursor bands leading up to Nu Metal. So spot on. And even the mentions of newer acts incorporating some of that Nu Metal style. Such as Spiritbox, Loathe, Nova Twins, and Poppy. Great video! Don't think it could be explained any better. Even after fanboy-ing over Nu Metal for 20 years, still learnt something from this video. Like could Clawfinger be the first Nu metal band?......Maybe....
@morrigan43
@morrigan43 Месяц назад
a great video! as a nu metal fan born after its golden age it has been fascinating to see it become almost mainstream again. i was already mostly aware of most of the influences on the metal side of things, but this video made me realize that maybe i'd enjoy late 80s/90s hip hop too, which is a genre i never really dived into before! i've never heard of "judgement night" before either but i think it might be what i start with:)
@misterthegeoff9767
@misterthegeoff9767 Месяц назад
Definitely give Body Count a listen. a perfect crossover of old school hip hop and metal and sadly as politically relevant today as it was back in the 90s.
@lainiwakura1776
@lainiwakura1776 Месяц назад
If it's not on KROQ, it's not mainstream. Idk what KROQ is thinking is cool now, but they're wrong and new heavy music needs to be played more on radio.
@lainiwakura1776
@lainiwakura1776 Месяц назад
@@misterthegeoff9767 I feel that way about "Holiday in Cambodia."
@leadme2thebliss21
@leadme2thebliss21 Месяц назад
I saw Helmet open for KoRn in 2022, very awesome concert from both bands!
@Kuffdam
@Kuffdam Месяц назад
This is the story of my youth… at 13 I was into Public Enemy and discovered Anthrax and it changed everything…. Loved and still own the Judgement Night soundtrack vinyl… saw Pantera on the Vulgar Tour, Biohazard for Urban Discipline tour and Sepultura for the Chaos AD tour… not to mention the Helmet era with Betty and that groove they created, it was a magical time for metal and then the Korn, Bizkit era of the late 90’s and 00’s was like the next level of metal. I miss those days but was at Sick New World to relive it all…. The story of my youth for sure - thanks for the video, loved it
@impossiblefunky
@impossiblefunky Месяц назад
This was fantastic. What a great selection of songs!
@UGLY-MONEY17
@UGLY-MONEY17 Месяц назад
Orgys blue Monday cover is fantastic in my opinion
@TheUFCnetwork
@TheUFCnetwork Месяц назад
Excellent video, nice work.
@refitdan
@refitdan Месяц назад
Excellent video. The segue at 25:29 was just *chef's kiss* perfect.
@JustinWoo
@JustinWoo 25 дней назад
This is the best deep dive of a musical movement I lived through I've ever seen. It's very easy to totally disregard this moment in metal but it's pretty hard to understand where metal is now without understanding nu metal.
@ComicPower
@ComicPower 19 дней назад
I appreciate your attention to detail. It shows tour passion for what you talk about
@SWEGTA
@SWEGTA 15 дней назад
Really good video. Much appreciated.
@emmanuelbarbet1621
@emmanuelbarbet1621 Месяц назад
Again such a great analysis and music history. This one made me travel far in my childhood, thanks for that!
@faithlessfate
@faithlessfate Месяц назад
I remember this from high school… good times. Great video.
@RuthlessMojo
@RuthlessMojo 19 дней назад
I grew up in the 80’s and 90’s listening to rap, hip hop, alternative and metal music. My first CD was Paul’s Boutique by the Beastie Boys. I was also into Ice T, Run DMC and Faith No More. For me Angel Dust was a revelation, just as Incubus’ SCIENCE was years later. In my late teens I taught myself guitar and when I was at university in the mid 90’s I joined a band. They were mainly into grunge and alternative. With there alternative and punk leanings I added rap and metal and we wrote an album of music in several months. We combined rap, punk, grunge, alternative, metal, rock, lounge, blues, soft rock and funk to create something fairly new at the time. My personal influences at that time were The Doors, Faith No More, Ice T, Cypress Hill, Das Efx, NWA, Eazy E, Primus, Incubus and even U2. Really good times. Much better than the crap that’s peddled on the charts today.
@zombielynx21
@zombielynx21 Месяц назад
This is exactly what I wanted. Thank you.
@sebastianmaydana7380
@sebastianmaydana7380 Месяц назад
I'm watching this because I love your videos. I could never click on other guys' Limp Bizkit RU-vid essays
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