BEFORE YOU BUY A TORO TIMEMASTER, WATCH THIS!

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BEFORE YOU BUY A TORO TIMEMASTER, WATCH THIS! The TORO TIMEMASTER is a popular MOWER in Toro's line up. However, it is far from perfect. I have racked up nearly 100 hours on this mower over 4 years and is flaws are starting to show their faces. In this video, I go over 6 MAJOR ISSUES with this mower that NOT MANY OWNERS ARE TALKING ABOUT. If you are in the market to buy a Toro Timemaster, watch this video FIRST! LIKE & SUBSCRIBE!
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@GarageGear Год назад

Here is a LINK to the #1 TOOL that Timemaster Owners are keeping in their garage! ⬇️👍 amzn.to/3KsXIWt

@andrewborell Год назад

That is also a great mower, but on a 1/3 acre or better, it's no replacement for my Time Master. And like many, I keep these types of tools in my shed :-p. One of my neighbors has this same Honda mower you linked. It's very light weight compared to a TM, and it's speedy. Also, you have to pull-start it again when you realize you forgot to pull the gutter downspouts before you started mowing. I notice the neighbor with this Honda only mows his front lawn with it, however, and uses a tractor on the back. I definitely wouldn't knock that Honda for what it's worth on a small lawn or edging around a large one, and Honda engines are pretty reliable in my experience.

@GarageGear Год назад

@@andrewborell thanks for sharing Andrew!

@johnbayliss1098 10 месяцев назад

Andrew I have to buy myself a mulcher can you do me a favor and see if you can do a little video on on one of the best mulches you can get for the yard for the leaves thank you my brother stay in touch thank you

@GarageGear 10 месяцев назад

@@johnbayliss1098 I’ll see what I can do 👍

@mercmanwon 2 года назад

I had a Timemaster for probably 6 or 7 years. I’ve replaced 1 cable kit. I keep sharp Gater blades on it. It’s fast it cuts great, lawn looks great and does what it’s advertised to do. If this one died I would buy another tomorrow.

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing

@danielcarlin545 Год назад

Me too.

@SinnerSince1962 Год назад

I'm not sure I would now that they are $1699, because that's crazy money for this mower. I'd buy a used Scag first.

@ByDesign333 2 месяца назад

Is it a fuel hog though? Thnx much.😊

@joemcmillan2089 2 года назад

My Honda Harmony 21" was purchased new in 2003 when they first came out. I have replaced the trans and drive belt ONE time at a cost of $129. Still starts first pull and no other issues. $700 seemed very expensive at the time of purchase BUT 19 years later it's still a great mower..

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Keep it around as long as you can Joe! Thanks for watching!

@mikez9492 Год назад

I’ve had my Toro Timemaster for a couple of years now and I haven’t had any issues. I sharpen my blades a couple times a year which might be preventing some of the clogging issues, but I’ve always done that regardless of what mower I’ve owned. The only part of the video I have to agree with is the fuel tank. I mow the backyard, refuel, then mow the front yard. It’s annoying, but really a minor inconvenience, all things considered. I love this mower and hopefully mine will continue to hold up over time. She starts on the first pull every single time. I can’t say that about any other brand that I’ve owned.

@GarageGear Год назад

Thanks for sharing Mike!

@MB-ct1yb 4 месяца назад

I bought a Toro TM30 at the beginning of last mowing season. I agree with some of these. I did shred the drag-flap on one of the very last mows of the season, right around 25hrs. I called Toro this spring and told them, and they shipped one out immediately at no charge. I too agree the size of the gas tank is laughably small. I bag my clippings, so I just top off during a dump of the bag and quick swig of water, so it’s not so much of a time adder for me, but it is inexcusable for a tank that small on a mower of this size. My 21” Troy-Bilt would mow my entire lawn and then some without ever running out. Regarding the clogging of the deck, this is something I have never encountered. My lawn is very thick and times when I mow it is very long, but I have never had even the slightest issue with clogging. I know the issue is not an anomaly, because there are complaints about it all over the internet. Not sure what I am doing differently, but I have never encountered it. I have had no other issues yet, but I am only at around 28hrs of use. I do like it so far. It definitely speeds up time spent mowing compared to my 21”. The quality of cut is also very nice and consistent. Aside from a bigger gas tank, one thing I really wish it had is casters for the front wheels. Turning the machine in tight confined areas can be challenging due to the weight and size. Casters would be a tremendous help.

@GarageGear 4 месяца назад

Casters would be a good thing for this mower! I agree! 👍

@JACK-ez5me 2 года назад

And I was really considering buying one for next season. Thanks for making this video and saving me $1,500 and a lot of headaches. I'll keep using my $700 honda push mower. It cuts tall and thick grass like no other without stopping.

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Awesome Jack! Glad I could save you some headaches! Hold onto that Honda! They always get the job done! Thanks for watching!

@vegass04 Год назад

I own the commercial 21" Honda for my lawn care business and I have a completely different opinion. My Honda clogs up constantly. This is the part of it I hate the most. My guess is that even its 200cc engine is to weak plus the back discharge is inferior to side discharge. Despite these flaws I love the reliability of Honda, ease of use and the huge grass bag. I'm in the process of either getting the larger 30" push mower (Timemaster included but given this review I doubt it). Maybe the Turfmaster which is commercial Timemaster. Or I'll go all in and get the residential zero turn Toei Timecutter since it'll work for 2-4 hours a week..

@DaleB809 2 года назад

I repair these mowers weekly. They are junk and very happy you called Toro out. I am to the point that I tell my customers to just buy a 21 inch mower. Every week it cost money and adds up pretty quick Thanks again. Had to Subscribe Winnipeg Manitoba Canada 🇨🇦

@GarageGear 2 года назад

I’m on the verge of a big repair sometime soon! I can feel it! Can’t go wrong with a 21”! Welcome to the tribe D! Thanks for watching

@richardpantin1108 2 года назад

I currently use one as my main mower in my part time business. Can agree with most points of the video. Side discharge is your best friend with these mowers. Bagging is a close second. I would not even consider mulching as an option anymore. It has paid for itself in a short time but it is taxing on the body. Picking up my new stander in 2 days. Looking forward to not push mowing any longer. GREAT VIDEO!

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Totally agree! Congrats on the new stander! Appreciate the positive feedback! Thanks for watching Richard!

@choppa5300 2 года назад

Same here have the time master as my main mower for my house and used it for part time yard cutting .Got the xmark 30 in with Kawasaki motor. Bogs out al the time and going to sell for another time master or a stand on to fit in small yards.

@GarageGear 2 года назад

@@choppa5300 thanks for sharing Jerome!

@MatthewSmith-uf6tr 2 года назад

Mulching is the only thing I use in PA, grass is thick and wet a lot it works like a charm!

@GarageGear 2 года назад

@@MatthewSmith-uf6tr thanks for sharing Matt

@pelzerd1 4 месяца назад

Such a good and spot on video. Just had the idler pulley shear off last night and take all the belts with it. Soooo many issues with this mower. My previous Toro last 20 yrs with me and still going with my FIL. Had the Time master for a short time and replaced 2 sets of belts, idler pulley, blade engagement cable, personal pace cable, gas tank ( leaking), and have the engine deck bolts rattle loose twice. Finally the dealer added nuts to the top of the deck to stop it. The only thing I haven’t experienced yet is the transmission issue. Thank you for the video.

@GarageGear 4 месяца назад

You got it pel! Thanks for sharing my friend

@josephpuchel6497 2 года назад

Hey I work on plenty of these Toros. They use them for commercial use. I don’t understand why Toro hasn’t updated design and components by this time. Too many issues. Number One being the transmission in my opinion. Nice video

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Hey Joseph thanks for sharing. Toro needs to step up their game on this machine. Thanks for watching 👍

@johnpeterson8408 Год назад

Yep, the transmission is certainly inadequate. Shame on Toro for such a crappy product.

@HOG95fsxts 6 месяцев назад

I purchased a Timemaster several years ago when the price was under $1,000. I maybe, had it for 1 month before I returned it. Like you, my yard is larger than most for a residential neighborhood, about 15,000sf. The problem I encountered was the mower would just die. After about 20 to 30 minutes of mowing, the mower would just stop and would not restart until it cooled down. This happened everytime I cut the lawn. Don't know if this issue was ever resolved, but I never bought another one. I replaced it with a Cub Cadet 33 inch walk behind, about $1,200 at that time, now ovewr $2,000, I think.. That was a true workhorse. Quick and powerful. The only issue I had with that one was it was kind of a beast. More powerful than I needed. Sold it about 5 years later. Now just have a couple of the standard size walk behinds, 22 in, I think. Looking for a wider cut, but haven't found anything yet. Was considering the DR 30in, not sure though.

@GarageGear 6 месяцев назад

Give the Scag 30 or Ferris 30 a look. They are commercial so you’ll pay more but they are really well built. Thanks for sharing this with the Garage Gear Community! Thanks for following along.

@MrTimerider1160 2 года назад

This a GREAT VIDEO! We desperately need more Reviews like this one that really point out ALL the PRO's and ALL THE CON"S.

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Thanks for the awesome comment Carey! Thanks for being a cool fan!

@J9213G Год назад

I upgraded the blades to the toro atomic 20120p model blade. Mine came with the high lift blades and those didn’t run well with mulching. Now it’s great. Better on gas also. No issues with clogging up and doesn’t leave a mess on the yard.

@GarageGear Год назад

Thanks for sharing j9

@CityBoyCountryHome 2 года назад

I disagree with a lot of this. I bought one in 2013 and mowed a half acre lot. Last year we moved to a much larger yard. Its always ran perfectly even though at the smaller place I treated it like crap. Hardly ever washing the deck and only changing the oil every couple years. It did break last year, but it was 100% my fault mowing in overgrowth and hit a small stump. Even then it just broke the sync belt, the first time it had ever broke. I'm 45 years old - I've been mowing grass for 30 years now - and seems like your complaint about clogging is not unique to this mower. Yes, with no discharge on the left blade it clogs a little more. But I've never seen a mower not clog in wet grass. Proper use of any mower requires you wash it out after use. This is just how lawnmowers work. Same with tightening the deck bolts. Bolts need retightened. This is the current state of the universe. After moving to the bigger yard, I researched updating my mowing equipment. I still couldn't find anything better than the TimeMaster for the niche it fills. So I bought another one and have two now. Thanks for posting, good content. Just wanted to make sure viewers see that others are having different experiences.

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing your side of the story. For some these machines do well. I like the mower. I think it has its place, but it definitely has some issues that need room for improvement.

@MatthewSmith-uf6tr 2 года назад

He must have got a lemon. Mine is the best mower I’ve ever had. I only mulch and a lot of the time it’s thick wet grass at 7 days. Zero issues in 3 years so far. I cut mine and my neighbors every week.

@GarageGear 2 года назад

@@MatthewSmith-uf6tr thanks again for sharing Matt

@randyevans2917 Год назад

I have had a Honda self-propelled 21" for 7 or 8 years. It never needs scraping out underneath and it stays relatively clean. I sharpen the blade once a year, change the oil once a year, and I am still on the original spark plug. I take the air filter out and knock the dirt out of it about once a month and that is it. My lawn is 10K sq. ft. and I was looking at the Timemaster to save a little mowing time, but after this review, I'll just stick with the Honda. Great review! Thanks!

@GarageGear Год назад

You got it Randy! Keep that Honda running!

@jmdubbs1354 2 года назад

As an owner of this model for the past 4 months, the clogging is a huge issue. I can’t say that enough. It’s a very clean cut though. But unless the grass is bone dry it’s going to clump and clump bad. You’re spot on with this, and I love your videos. I laughed when you mentioned the Honda, as I myself am currently looking to sell my current mower and buy a Honda

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Hey JMW! The timemaster does give a good cut. No doubt about that but one drop of water will make for a long evening! Can’t go wrong with a Honda! Glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks for watching!

@kevinisbell1867 2 года назад

I've done commercial lawn care for 10 years and little mowers clogged up too. only difference is I can do in 2 days what took 3 days with the timemaster vs 21. little machines even the good ones don't move nearly as fast either.

@shanew7361 2 года назад

Currently own a Honda hrx 217hya lawn mower and have been happy for 3 years other than the stupid plastic deck a d the underside venting underneath is a pitfa to clean.

@GarageGear 2 года назад

@@kevinisbell1867 thanks for sharing!

@GarageGear 2 года назад

@@shanew7361 thanks for sharing!

@1970ssaiditfirst 3 месяца назад

I've owned a Toro Timemaster for 3 years. Everything thing you said is 100% true. Where were you 3 years ago before I way overspent on this thing?

@GarageGear 3 месяца назад

Bought mine in 2019! Learned a lot of lessons. Sold it in 2023. Significantly fewer headaches

@RomMiles Год назад

Thanks for this post. All the things I have found with this mower you covered...every season I have the "repair or replace" conversation with myself. And yes, my old push Masport makes it out of retirement every season as back-up #1.

@GarageGear Год назад

You got it my friend! Keep that other mower around lol! Thanks for watching

@marcprovencher1457 2 года назад

Great video JB. I have a timemaster that I upgraded with pulleys hour meter fuel shutoff and have had it for 2yrs. I love this mower and I have 15,000sf. I have to refuel once. True about wet grass but have to be patient. I also have an old Honda harmony 215, that's over 25yrs old with the plastic deck and looks and runs fantastic. Just remember that the new Honda's aren't built like the old ones. Take a good look at all the problems they're having, with trying to pull the mower backwards. Your Honda is new, give it a few years and see what happens.

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Hey Marc! Thanks for sharing! I’m sure my Honda will have its issues in time. Nothing is built the same as it was. Everything is made cheap nowadays. Thanks for watching

@jonw4595 Год назад

keeping it real, nicely done. i went polar opposite 6 years ago and bought a honda powered husqvarna awd, couldn't be more pleased.

@GarageGear Год назад

Awesome my friend! Thanks for sharing!

@markkauffman6184 2 года назад

Thanks for the honest review! I currently have a 12 year old Honda mower and was considering the Toro as I have about 15k square feet of grass to cut. I’ll just keep my Honda.

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Sounds like a great plan! Keep working that Honda! Can’t go wrong mark!!! Thanks for watching

@AlwaysBored1 4 месяца назад

I like how you said the review was a little negative. The entire thing was negative. I'm glad I found your video. I have 10ksqft and run a 21 inch Honda. It takes a little over and hour and one part of my lawn has a steep grade. I'd really like to shave 20 min off my mow time, and I was considering buying the Timemaster, but now im definitely not! Thank you!

@GarageGear 4 месяца назад

The TM is definitely not worth the headaches

@guymichaud6371 Год назад

Very honest review. The deck clogged alot. Had to mow every 4 days. I had several pulley Failures. Upgraded to commercial pulleys and transmission went next. Done with Toro.

@GarageGear Год назад

Hey Guy! Honesty is the best policy! Considering selling mine in the spring! I’m not totally done with toro on my end I do like their super recyclers. These machines aren’t worth all the time money and energy. Thanks for watching!

@tedpgns 4 месяца назад

I have a timemaster, all of what you say may be true except for the underneath getting clogged and having to clean out the grass clippings....of course, I have st. Augustine grass and I cut when the grass is not wet or moist. I have had this for 5+ years, I do a yearly oil change, blade sharpen/swap, and a new plug. The only thing I have had go wrong was the kill switch wire was pulled out ( it got caught on a branch) and I had to replace the cable for the transmission. Having said that I am super happy with Toro's Timemaster.

@GarageGear 4 месяца назад

Thanks for sharing ted

@paulb2769 Год назад

Well said JB. I own a Timemaster and agree with your comments. Not a whole lot of choices from manufacturers in this size. The Toro / Scag & ExMark commercial 30's are to HEAVY! and why no caster wheels in front to make it way easier to turn around? And the 33 in Cub looks very cheaply made !! Lastly the FW 15 Ferris looks nice but very pricey! I am considering getting a 36" Toro hydro walk behind! Your thoughts??? Thanks. Paul.

@GarageGear Год назад

That sounds like a good way to go. It would be a better investment with your money. Thanks for watching and enjoy your weekend.

@GroundsHero 9 месяцев назад

Good video. The best thing that happened when I bought this is I only bought 1. It is a higher maintenance machine. I have replaced the blade drive belt too many times. If I adjust it loose as recommended, the blade speed falls off quite a bit in taller grass. In retrospect, I should have paid more and gotten the Cub Cadet.

@GarageGear 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing

@ArtSavage-x9f Год назад

I have a 4 year old and totally agree with most of what u said. One thing you left out that I’ve experienced, replacing the blade engagement belt a couple times a season.

@GarageGear Год назад

That’s a common issue too! Thanks for watching!

@concerned201 Год назад

Check the alignment, something may be dragging on it.

@JmanRx81 3 месяца назад

I've added a Tecumseh snowblower gas tank to my own lawnmower too. I added manual throttle control and a tachometer so I can run it at higher RPMs with a high-lift blade.

@GarageGear 3 месяца назад

Awesome thanks for sharing jman!

@timmynormand8082 4 месяца назад

Found one someone had put by the road to throw away. I brought it home got it running in 30 mins ( no parts ) been using it for two yrs now Starts first pull. EVERY TIME !!! No complaints here

@GarageGear 4 месяца назад

Thanks for sharing timmy

@johncombs6543 Год назад

Very honest review. I have seen these around the neighborhood. At Home Depot. Ok. Too much plastic. The engine is not a great engine. It’s way under powered and there for overloaded. Sounds like they’re using the same transmission as the 21 inch mower. And along with the other problems. Is it worth the extra $$? Probably not. Even the 30 inch commercial versions are ok. But, way too expensive for the extra inches of cut. Again, an undersized engine. In the future they’re going to be a ton of these sitting at the curb. My point? Stay with the relatively simple 21 cut. The generally work with much less problems.

@GarageGear Год назад

💯agree on all this! Thanks for sharing this John!

@paulb2769 Год назад

I must have been lucky with the one i have had for several yesrs. I have mowed HUNDREDS of lawns with it and have had no belt or pulley issues or any other mechanical issues at all. I change the oil frequently and sharpen the blades weekly. And almost exclusively side discharge. Over all it has served me well.... Paul

@GarageGear Год назад

Thanks for sharing Paul!

@pghm123 5 месяцев назад

I have had mine for three seasons and have had zero issues. I do agree with the gas tank being too small.

@GarageGear 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing pg

@gregoryfaulkner5345 Год назад

I had the 190 cc. I managed most of the clogging issues via chucking the side chute deflector and bungy-ing up the mulching flap. I now have a TimeCutter zero turn and have five times the issues I had with the TM30, however, the TM30 blew out a headgasket in year 4, and I was doing perfect maintenance.

@GarageGear Год назад

Thanks for sharing this information with the Garage Gear community!

@oldehatt476 2 года назад

I have one of these mowers, about 5 years now. Replaced pulley after one season. I agree engine is under powered, will bog down if grass gets a little high. Other than that it has started on the first or second pull every time. I give it 3 out of 5 stars.

@GarageGear 2 года назад

I agree with your rating Olde Hatt! I does give a nice cut when the conditions are right. Thanks for watching!

@bobkrueger194 Год назад

My Timemaster has been very good. The electric start kind of sucks and a bracket or guide for the self-propelled drive came loose and shredded a belt. I still love it.

@GarageGear Год назад

Thanks for sharing Bob!

@Rose_19911 Год назад

hi why does it suck?

@bobkrueger194 Год назад

@@Rose_19911 it doesn't start on key like it should. I have better luck on pull start

@christineschmidutz5057 4 месяца назад

I was gifted. A used one, Had it completely tuned up looking like new & a few things replaced. I have a generally flat 3/4 of an acre lawn. My biggest complaint about this mower Is that it requires so much grip strength to keep the blades engaged. Far more thsn any mower ive had previously. And i don't like the placement of the blue stability handle. Ive smashed my fingers a few times already engaging the power assist

@GarageGear 4 месяца назад

Thanks for sharing Christine!

@WJCTechyman Год назад

I like to call these mowers the Toro Timewaster from what I've seen in videos like yours. It's either down time or extra maintenance that really doesn't really work and that's why I own a Honda commercial HRC2163HXC (Canadian equivalent of the American HRC216HXA) as a lot of landscaping pros revert to that as opposed to using Toro. I think Honda is the king of 21" mowers so it was sad to hear it is abdicating its throne. That said, if I ever get the cash and I want a larger mower like the Toro, I would go with the commercial Scag as it has decent reviews. I even had a chance to see one in person as another firm in my town has one.

@GarageGear Год назад

Definitely time wasters for sure! I would like to see the Scag in action too! Perhaps down the road! Thanks for sharing and watching!

@claresmith7227 Год назад

Own 2 older TM for 2 property's. Not much gloggin by my (cut/mulch) switch routine. First cut with open doors and let clipped grass dry. Next cut, I only "mulch" closed doors if needed. I'm able to jog/run and cut as fast as i can, great machines. I do mis the rust free aluminum deck that the smaller toros have. Graphite helps too.

@GarageGear Год назад

Thanks again for sharing Clare! Graphite and aluminum decks definitely help.

@PWbflo 2 года назад

Love the honesty! I got some bad things to say about cub cadet, and their new parent company black and decker. But high praise for our local dealer where I got it from.

@GarageGear 2 года назад

These mower brands get handed around like Pokémon cards lol! Some dealers got their acts together! Thanks for watching another my friend and for sharing your input! 👍

@brianmccarthy1322 Год назад

My Honda HRM was purchased in 1994. In that time I have changed the oil and sparkplug at the start of the season. I have changed one each drive and throttle cable once. Repaired the grass catcher bag after some mice decided to overwinter in my garage. This video has killed my interest in this machine. Thanks for the warning. I owe you one.

@GarageGear Год назад

Hey Brian! I wish people were more honest when I went to buy this machine years ago! Just sold mine! Thanks for watching!

@ToddRichards-Omaha 11 месяцев назад

I'm putting my current Toro Time-Master to sleep after the 5th mowing season. I prefer to mulch, so I mow 2-3 times each week from April to June, then once every 5-6 days during the hot time. I regret my purchase but am not sure what to do next. It's truly just an expensive "ok" mower. It doesn't mulch that well, the bag shoots grass out, and the self-propelled is meh. I trashed my second lawn flap 2 weeks after replacing it. And yes, I just had to clean the deck before mowing a few days ago. I had a trusted 21" Toro that was working fine but felt that the 30" would be that much better. Nope. Next.

@GarageGear 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing your experiences with the community my friend! Those mowers are money pits. Thanks for watching!

@omcbob37 Год назад

I'm on my 3rd season with a Honda 21" self-propelled mower. I'd been considering this Toro 30" Timemaster in order to cut down on my mowing time but with your video outlining these problems along with a number of reviews highlighting the small fuel tank, deck clogging problem and the belt-eating drive/pulley system, I think I'll just stay with my Honda. No sense in spending 20 minutes cleaning the deck after every mow if it only saves me 15 minutes of mowing time. I was surprised to hear your description of the failure rate on the Briggs & Stratton engine. They are usually pretty dependable.

@GarageGear Год назад

Hey omc! Older briggs engines held up better. This engine is only good for a couple of years. Just because you’re buying a bigger mower doesn’t necessarily mean you’re saving time and frustration! Keep that Honda rolling! Thanks for watching!

@dalesworld1308 Год назад

Wanted one and saw one at an auction yesterday. The platsic clippy thing where the the drive speed cable comes out of the controls was broken and would be need to be replaced first thing. I wanted it and then I remembered reading about some of the issues you mentioned and wisely passed on it.

@GarageGear Год назад

I think you made a smart decision dale! Thanks for watching

@tyler350 4 месяца назад

I have had mine for 8 years. Mow 5 to 6 yards a week all 8 years. 1 never changed the 190 cc motor. Two oil changes a year with opti oil it's expensive but works. On the second Trans, and it slowing down. Swapped to the commercial baring the first year and no problems. I take the cover off once a month and blow everything out. The clogging is the worst because once it starts you have to clean the deck o it just gets worse. Also it's not wet grass. But you can go slow or overlap and it doesn't matter clog within 10 feet.

@GarageGear 4 месяца назад

Thanks for sharing this information tyler

@rgb002762 2 года назад

I have a Toro turf master used it for 6 years the drag flap still drags on the floor every time I pull it out of the garage , looks like new. My block is 4000sqr m app 21527.82sqr ft.. Half of my block has house and garden ,so 2000sqr m or 10000 sqr ft of lawn .I have the Kawasaki - smaller motor and the commercial gas tank , I can mow my lawn 3-4 times . I only ever do an oil and oil filter once a year ,app 50 hours. Never looked at my mounting bolts ,because they have never moved.I have never replaced one pulley. I have just replaced the drive belt app 350 hrs. My transmission is great ,the bearing on the output needs a little oil every service, or it squeaks. I mow every 10 to 25 days, catch 50% and mulch 50% .Only clean my deck on a yearly service, blades last around 2-3 years ,wet grass will slow me down , but not a lot. I have a 2nd mower , haven't started it in 6 years( think I might scrap it) Still has the original air filter..Just remove the plastic belt cover and leave it off. A lot of grass builds up under it and may cause extra where and tear. It also makes checking the belt tension easy .do a visual check every start up. If a belt breaks ,witch is unlikely ,it will fly out sideways .not a problem..PS I have worked in the hire and rental industry for app 20 years maintaining small equipment ,This mower , I have found to be LOW maintenance ..

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing!

@graceortiz9494 2 года назад

I got my fingers crossed 🤞 I've had mine for 4 years without any issues. The gas tank drive me nuts. Now I know I can add another gas tank to it. I will look into this for sure. I don't have a stripper kit on mine. Glad I haven't put one on. I never cut the grass wet. But yes it does get nasty under it.

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Fingers crossed for you! 4 years and you’re doing ok! If you’re planning on holding onto it give the gas tank a whirl. Thanks for watching Grace Ortiz!

@richardkoehler9917 10 месяцев назад

I love my time master . I did some up grades . Not big deal .I mow 9 yards each week and don't bag or side discharge .I had the time master for three years . The engine , Not a problem. The small gas tank. Not a problem . The flap . I made my own . And the belts . I went heavy duty on both driven V belts .

@GarageGear 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing

@gil3green Год назад

It’s 5 y/o almost to the day. Roughly 10k sq ft. As of last yr. cutting 2 small add. lawns. Very high maintenance. With stripper. You have to def feel comfortable working on small engines if ya own one. The hose cleaner I discovered was contributing to the clumping & deck rust. Can’t forget the 4 new wheels, tread gone, pullies, I’ll give it a pass on belts but all 3 been replaced at least once. Briggs motor has held up though. I’m not rough or hard on things either. Then paid $949. For kicks bag handle ripped.

@GarageGear Год назад

Thanks for sharing this Gil! 👍

@CrispusAttucks2315 Год назад

I’ve got a toro TimeMaster that I cut Bermuda with in the summer and rye in the winter. The rye clumps up on the deck pretty terribly with the mulch blades. What I did to fix this is switch to non-mulch high lift blades and side discharge. I use a bungee cord to hold the mulch guard up and have reduced the clumping under the deck significantly.

@CrispusAttucks2315 Год назад

I’ve had no issues except that drag guard breaking and I cut year round on a .25 acre yard. I keep the blades sharp and don’t over stress the machine.

@CrispusAttucks2315 Год назад

Ballard non mulching blades are great for reducing the pulp that is made from mulch blades. Great cut too.

@GarageGear Год назад

Thanks for sharing this Demetrius!

@CrispusAttucks2315 Год назад

@@GarageGear I’ve got a cheap bolens non-mulching mower that is an absolute beast in rye and wet grass. Mulching is good but there are benefits too to a non-mulching mower.

@GarageGear Год назад

@@CrispusAttucks2315 some non mulchers can pull it off!

@brihamlin1 4 месяца назад

A lot of good points, many of which could be easily corrected (bigger gas tank, stronger flaps...). I've got the 2018 model year and had few problems mechanically. Just replaced the blades and looking forward to the first cut with them. The mower was $1,100 back when I bought it, inflation, ugh!

@GarageGear 4 месяца назад

Crazy inflation! Thanks for watching bri

@marcusd6096 2 года назад

I've tried to cut thick grass with my time master. I heard it bogging down so I use it to just take some grass off the top and have had no issues out of it. I use riding mowers to remove thick grass and the timemaster to clean up or use only on normally maintained grass.

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Hey Marcus, yeah this mower will struggle with thick grass and you’ll definitely be doing a double cut! Thanks for watching! 👍

@marcusd6096 2 года назад

@@GarageGear indeed thanks for the feedback !

@PrimalPetersen 7 месяцев назад

I know there’s no real comparison and individual circumstances are so variable, but for the past 4 years, I have been using a 125cc Cheetah mower (the cheapest I could find $175), to mow my 2/3 acre back yard. It takes me 2 hours on a good day or 2.5 when I’ve left it for 2 weeks. It’s incredibly light weight, uses hardly any fuel, has lived outside in the elements its entire life and is small enough to throw around with 1 hand to go around trees etc. Yes, it’s like 16” which means I’m spending more time, but I’m almost afraid to “upgrade” after watching a bunch of review videos for the options I’ve been considering.

@GarageGear 7 месяцев назад

A lot of stuff out there isn’t built very well! Thanks for watching

@MrRbarenbr Год назад

Oh those pulleys you speak of…I have had the pleasure of the tensioner pulley completely fail while running with the blades engaged. It lost timing and the blades struck each other 😢….You must have a backup

@GarageGear Год назад

That must have been quite the sound! Thanks for watching !

@alphamale3141 2 года назад

New to your videos. I need honest reviews like this for all the lawn equipment I buy. Don’t forget to review low-end stuff.

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Awesome Alphamale! I plan on buying some lower end stuff along the way too to help out those getting started in the lawn journeys. Thanks for checking out the channel! 👍

@njkip Год назад

Mates got one here in the U.K. Rear discharge, so far......belt pulley bearings failed three times. Cutter drive spindle boss detached from deck, captive bolts snapped had to drill thro and bolt right thro to secure it...cutter drive belts shredding despite using proper Kevlar belts. Drive issues struggle to drive. Had to get upgrade kit for cutter engage mechanism..what a lovely mower....he should have bough a goat! 😖

@GarageGear Год назад

Thanks for sharing this njkip! Many bad designs with this mower!

@SHONEY21Z 2 года назад

I like mine. But I am able to service it myself. Bought it for $50. Replaced carb, 3 pulleys and a belt. Used 2 years, works great. Does clog up sometimes but I just keep going. Never clean it except when sharpening blades.

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing SHONEY!

@2wheelnutt 3 месяца назад

Gotta tell you I’ve been using one for about 10 years. I have a 21,000 sq. ft. yard minus 3000 sq ft house and garage. Never runs out of gas but my wife has. My maintenance has comes down to single annual oil change,1 belt over its lifetime, muffler guard broke, and replaced the kill switch. It runs strong and starts on first pull almost every time. I bag but clogs only occur during the worst wet conditions. It is heavy but cuts great. Maybe your problems are related to the operator. Oh yeah, it is noisy. My son is still using it as due to my age I have moved to a battery powered rider.

@GarageGear 3 месяца назад

Thanks for sharing

@curtiscollins2174 Год назад

My Toro is 5 yrs old and as run flawless. I do wear out like all mowers.

@GarageGear Год назад

thanks for sharing!

@nickcase2635 2 года назад

Having a real hard time trying to choose between the 2022 Toro Super Recycler, the 2022 Toro Timemaster, and the 2022 Honda HRX217. I live in Oklahoma and have Bermuda grass. My yard is 5,316 SF. I have owned Toro recyclers in the past and am a huge fan, but the reviews on the 2022 super recyclers as well as the lack of a side discharge chute and clean out port have me wary. My dream mower is a Timemaster, but I think my yard is probably too small. All of this leads me to the Honda, which has great reviews, I’m just a Toro guy, and don’t really want to make the switch, lol.

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Hey Nick, you’re now the third or fourth person to mention the poor reviews of the 2022 recycler. And after owning a timemaster I will say that I don’t regret buying it but I wouldn’t buy another. Honda makes a great machine and I can tell you that you’ll be pleasantly surprised with the quality of the cut. Variety is the spice of life my friend lol! I’d say give the Honda a shot.

@nickcase2635 2 года назад

@@GarageGear good advice, I shall, thanks!

@GarageGear 2 года назад

@@nickcase2635 Cool Nick! Let me know how you like it!

@johncombs6543 Год назад

These mowers always look good on paper. But, if you really look and think. You realize that it’s under powered. And the transmission is probably the same residue rated one as in a standard mower. Ok? Then factor in belt problems an you’re left saying this is an expensive headache. Might as well get the commercial 21 and get a better all around mower.

@GarageGear Год назад

All good points here John! If you’re gonna spend that kind of money you might as well go commercial!

@paulb2769 10 месяцев назад

Hi JB. Checking in with you again. Seems like other manufacturers would be coming out with a 30 - 33 in walk behind similar to the Time Master with all the issues of the Time Master FIXED !!! I think there is a clear need for mowers similar to the TM without spending way more money buying a 36" or bigger hydro ! Maybe you could pass this request along to the manufactures ? Just a thought ! Thanks Paul

@GarageGear 10 месяцев назад

Hey Paul! I dont have any direct contacts with manufacturers but could mention it in videos.

@paulb2769 10 месяцев назад

@GarageGear GREAT!!! Thanks JB !!!

@jameslcosbyjr2468 5 месяцев назад

My neighbor has one of these and loves it. I just bought one and the synchronous belt shredded itself in the first use for no apparent reason causing the blades to hit each other. The belt totally disintegrated to the point that it literally looks like mice made a nest under the cover. Not happy.

@GarageGear 5 месяцев назад

That’s just the start of all the fun! Thanks for watching james

@jameslcosbyjr2468 5 месяцев назад

@@GarageGearwhat push mower would you recommend instead?

@GarageGear 5 месяцев назад

@@jameslcosbyjr2468 if you can knab a Honda before they are gone I would go one of them!.

@jameslcosbyjr2468 5 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@Stefnator Год назад

I lost my rear drag guard on my first use. Toro should do a safety recall on it.

@GarageGear Год назад

💯agree! Thanks for watching stef!

@raypalmer357 2 года назад

Glad I seen this I was going tomorrow morning to buy one not now

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Hey Ray! Thanks for watching! How big is your yard?

@CJsLS21 2 года назад

It would a really cool video if you did a comparison between your time master and a used commercial 32 belt drive unit that a couple f big manufacturers still produce, depending on where your located they are a dime a dozen cause commercial landscaping company’s are selling them to upgrade to newer stand on units

@GarageGear 2 года назад

That would be a cool comparison. Thanks for watching Christopher!

@tomsullivan2907 Год назад

So after watching this I don't think I want Timemaster. I have Honda HRC 21", needs replacing. Not sure the HRX line is good enough. I don't have a big lawn, current Honda can do it in about 45min on high speed. You thoughts what you would suggest. I thought the 30" sounded cool and would save time until watching this. Honda? HRC vs HRX? Wnat something lasts and starts on the first or second pull which the Honda's have always done. Appreciate your help before I pick a mower. The thing I didn't like on the HRX was the belt drive. The HRC has the Transmission and mine have held up well in the past, but maybe there is a better option.

@GarageGear Год назад

Hey Tom! The Hondas are both great options. I’ll have a video out next week on the HRX! The HRX has a good transmission with a pressure sensitive drive system. Works great! The timemaster is not a good choice for longevity! Thanks for watching!

@mikegrappone9078 2 года назад

Thanks for the review. Was thinking about buying. I’ll just keep my 1988 21 inch Toro - engine mounts still tight!

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Keep the 1988 and save your money for a vacation Mike! I’m considering putting a for sale sign on mine! Thanks for watching!

@brandonburgess6303 Год назад

Was looking to buy this machine ,so glad i caught this video before purchase 💯 enjoy your videos

@GarageGear Год назад

Appreciate the positive feedback Brandon! Might be selling mine in the spring! We will see!

@TheCreamRisesToTheTop Год назад

Thank you for this review. Honesty is hard to come by these days

@GarageGear Год назад

That’s how we roll here! Thanks for watching! 👍

@TheCreamRisesToTheTop Год назад

@@GarageGear Much appreciated! Because of your videos I was steered away from the Toro Timemaster and just picked up the Honda HRX you most recently reviewed. It’s gonna be a good mowing season 😁

@GarageGear Год назад

@@TheCreamRisesToTheTop sure will Macho man! Enjoy the mow! 👍

@brockbrown564 2 года назад

Exactly right on with all of your comments!

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Thanks Brock! Thanks for watching!

@Poolshark1425 3 месяца назад

I’ve had a Timemaster for 3 years and haven’t had any issues ! She still runs like a champ. Best lawnmower I’ve ever purchased !

@GarageGear 3 месяца назад

Thanks for sharing

@savagenomore Год назад

I'm here to find reasons not to buy this mower and I found them, sure wish I had kept that 32" Bobcat walk behind I had.....

@GarageGear Год назад

Here’s one more reason … the cables break often! Glad this video was helpful for you! Thanks for watching

@josephbenanti2811 2 года назад

Wanted to get one!!! For my lawn biz!! Not so much any more😱😱😱

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Hey Joseph some landscapers I’ve spoken with are happy with them but after a short time you’ll be doing more maintenance on them than mowing! Thanks for watching!

@brentyoung2310 5 месяцев назад

Good mower. But has issues. Replaced the transmission, blade engagement cable snaps 2 -3 times a season , had to replace the pulleys a few times as well. My opinion.get the Turf Master. My opinion

@GarageGear 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing Brent!

@tonyp9609 5 месяцев назад

Thank you for the info on this mower. Was considering a purchase. I'm going to look at the DR Power SP30. Thanks

@GarageGear 5 месяцев назад

You don’t want all those headaches Tony!

@SJARFan 6 месяцев назад

Sweet sooo I’m getting the super recycler now lol! Thanks for saving me 750 bucks!

@GarageGear 6 месяцев назад

You got it my friend! 👍

@ZIRTUBE Год назад

wow! glad I found your video.. tks for the honest review. i guess i’ll pass on this mower.

@GarageGear Год назад

Hey Zirtube! These are all common problems mentioned on the timemaster Facebook page! I sold my timemaster about two months ago and couldn’t be happier to have the space back in my garage! Lol! Thanks for watching!

@klepper00 Год назад

I’ve had mine 10 years now and the only problems I’ve had is the drive cable and the shut off switch . I replaced them at 8 years .

@GarageGear Год назад

Thanks for sharing

@scottharrod2406 2 года назад

I have two of these. You left out the #1 thing that fails on these in my opinion. The blade clutch cable. I bet I've changed at least 10 of these.

@GarageGear 2 года назад

I’ve heard this is a big problem as well! Toro needs to get their act together. Thanks for watching Scott!

@rogerfelty528 2 года назад

Thanks for the honest review, I was considering going with this model to offset my Honda hrx and help save time with my work schedule. I’m going to subscribe to your channel, love this content.

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Awesome Roger! I won’t let you down! Save the space in your garage lol! Keep the Honda running! Some things aren’t worth the trouble ! Thanks for watching!

@kevinisbell1867 2 года назад

@@GarageGear you know the timemaster folds up for tighter storage.

@yolo_burrito Год назад

I bought a used Gravely Pro-Stance 36” for less than a new Toro Time Master.

@GarageGear Год назад

Bet you’ll have less that half the issues with that thing too! Thanks for watching

@actually_it_is_rocket_science Год назад

Explains why there are so many on Facebook marketplace for sale that look brand new.

@GarageGear Год назад

💯 spot on lol!

@thomato981 Год назад

Seems like I need to go the commercial route if I want a 30" walk behind push mower. Maybe a used Turfmaster is a better option hmm

@GarageGear Год назад

I would definitely look at a commercial 30! Give the Scag a look! 👍

@jeremyosell3978 2 года назад

I can get 15k square feet on a tank. 3 backyards then fill. I mow lawns to feed myself. This mower the cheap alternative to having too buy a small 30 or 36 inch stander for $8,000 if you mow to pay the bills. I just use it for gated backyards. This is my 4th year with it. The little peg that holds the front tires at different heights in place is starting to wear down. Its just the two different heights I always use. The wire that connects to the kill switch fell out. I just touch the loose wires together to kill the motor now. Other than that no issues.

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing Jeremy

@ronlawrence5021 Год назад

I don't own this beast, but I do own the Toro Recycler 22 in. Briggs And Stratton Personal Pace Rear Wheel Drive Walk Behind Gas Self Propelled Lawn Mower with Bagger. It was purchased new in April 2022. Last week, I was mowing my acre for the last time of the season. I have probably between 10-15 hours on the mower. I hit a tuft of grass that was dense enough to bind the motor and stop it instantly. When I tried to restart the machine, the piston was bound. Manually rotated the blade (which was very stiff). Still could not use the pull cord. Had to drive 2-1/2 hours to get to the nearest authorized Toro service center for what I was certain would be a warranty repair. Nope. The young man told me the issue was lack of user maintenance. Incredulous, I asked him to explain. He told me he could tell from the dirt he saw in the air filter that I had failed to replace the filter, resulting in excess wear and tear on the piston and sleeve, and that's why he could detect aluminum shavings in the oil. He said he wasn't going to waste an hour of his time breaking into the engine to submit a warranty claim he knew would be denied. Toro may have had a good reputation in the past, but it appears to be true no longer. I ended up taking the mower to a different repair center and I'll wait to get the final word from him, but I'm pretty sure this will be my last Toro purchase. It has never started in 1 or 2 pulls ever - although I am at 7000' elevation so maybe? Even though they proudly claim you never have to add oil, both service guys told me you *MUST* change the oil. It isn't mentioned in the manual, but if your air filter is dirty, it voids your warranty? Wouldn't a dirty air filter just make it run poorly? I found the machine to be very underpowered. Grass that is even slightly wet or long bogs this engine down to the stall point. In retrospect, I would not buy this machine again. You've been warned.

@GarageGear Год назад

Thanks for sharing Ron! 👍

@ronlawrence5021 Год назад

@@GarageGear Yeah... I realized after writing a War and Peace novel that my experience probably should have been shared under a review of that specific model. Nonetheless, my impression is none of the current residential Toro's deserve the reputation Toro worked so hard to earn in the past.

@GarageGear Год назад

@@ronlawrence5021 I hear what your saying! Their old stuff is far better! 👍

@clayboist Год назад

Definitely hit the like button. I support the honesty!!

@GarageGear Год назад

Appreciate you clay! Thanks for watching

@stephenmeininger2829 2 года назад

I own 3 of these for my business plus 3 21 Inc super recyclers and a 42 inch time cutter zero. I can agree with the flap underneath but 3 years in and all I have had to do it oil air filters an spark plugs. 100 lawns a week still original belts. Oh and I replaced a broken front tire an the plastic shoot blocker twice.

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing Stephen!

@wawacan Год назад

Bought mine used, had a year of service. So far the engine has shaken loose (check), the pulleys have seized (check) and the bolts holding them in sheared off, it clogs if the grass isn't dry (check), and it is underpowered (I have the smaller motor), and before I converted part of my lawn to a natural meadow, on a 3/4 acre property it needed a gas up to finish (check). Am I disappointed in Toro, yes. They should know better. Do I regret buying it, no, but I paid $800 Canadian for it.

@GarageGear Год назад

Thanks for sharing Wawa! Definitely a mower with a lot of drama!

@that1guy997 2 года назад

One thing I've done to prevent clogging is ceramic coat the deck at the beginning of the season.

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing!

@RiseT14 5 месяцев назад

What would you recommend instead? I was looking at the HRX or possibly a base entry zero turn. I'm moving into my first home that is just over half an acre and it's relatively straight & flat with little trees and nearly no obstacles. My gate is big enough for a ride on for sure, but I don't have the budget to really go above $3,000 & would prefer getting a nice push around $1,000-$1,500 since I'm young & can use the exercise & I've heard zero turns aren't worth it unless you can spend $5,000+

@GarageGear 5 месяцев назад

Hey rise! I think you’ll be there for a while with the HRX. Good mower though! Perhaps check out a decent used zero turn that is more in your budget to see how you like it for a season. There’s plenty of good ones out there. My neighbor has had a toro for a while and loves it.

@RiseT14 5 месяцев назад

@@GarageGear thanks for the input! I'm going to check out some local dealers this week to see what type of financing they have for new & used zero-turns

@GarageGear 5 месяцев назад

@@RiseT14 you got it my friend!

@andrewking1414 6 месяцев назад

What mower would you reccomend? 30" to 42" cut for residential use? Half an acre!

@GarageGear 6 месяцев назад

Hey Andrew there really isn’t a good one in the residential market. If you want a decent one you’re better of going with a Scag or Ferris 30. Stihl might have one now too. High price tags though. May want to look into a rider for those sizes!

@andrewking1414 6 месяцев назад

@GarageGear right, I currently have a Troy Bilt Mustang 42" from 2008! It's on its last leg! We were thinking of going 30" push but now we are leaning another 42" zero turn! Looking at the Bad Boy right now. Any suggestions there? Thanks!

@GarageGear 6 месяцев назад

@@andrewking1414 bad boys are great! Hear good things about them from mechanics. 👍

@lopincol Год назад

I have a friend who has a 24 000sqft lawn and his Timemaster does it twice with the same tank of gas. He's very mechanically inclined and said to me the rpm had to be adjusted down because his ran way too fast for nothing and now it's perfect

@GarageGear Год назад

Lowering the RPM can help burn less gas. Thanks for sharing Jamy!

@paddybarnes7776 Год назад

100% regret buying mine 2 years ago. It's been in the shop for a myriad of reasons. Currently looking for another large push mower.

@GarageGear Год назад

Hey paddy! Thanks for sharing this with our community! 👍

@wedontknowlol Месяц назад

I’ve had my time master for 3+ years and have not had any of these issues with the exception of the flap. Otherwise, it’s been amazing machine.

@GarageGear Месяц назад

@@wedontknowlol thanks for sharing

@sticksandstones1885 2 года назад

🤔 I haven't had any of those problems and my time Master is over 8 years old and I mow over 10,000 ft and I don't need no extra gas tank and I don't need to refuel in fact there's plenty of extra gas left over when I'm done. I did have to replace Wheels belts and do tune-ups that's it and it only clogs if the yard is soaking wet and super tall.🤷

@GarageGear 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing!

@jeffreycaban5107 Год назад

Makes me glad I am still using my 21 year old John Deere JX85.

@GarageGear Год назад

I used to have one of those! Great machines! 👍

@madcrabber1113 6 дней назад

Best cheapest mower including longevity etc?

@GarageGear 6 дней назад

@@madcrabber1113 Honda hrn216vka! Mower just works! 👍

@TonyCandela-g6g 10 месяцев назад

My Timemaster is fantastic, no issues at all, after mowing, I blow the grass off my mower every time after I finish to use. I’m sure you don’t like this Toro Timemaster. You can buy a fancy Rolls-Royce, but if you avoid the service or if you don’t care about, then you have issues with everything 🎯😎

@GarageGear 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing

@mrgreen2769 3 месяца назад

I don't mind cleaning the deck, any mower can get clogged even the honda, how do I know? Owned one. Like all mowers over time the paint the luster or whatever wears underneath. Now depending on the type of grass you cut or how wet the lawn is you will have to eventually scrap or wash the deck. Why I won't use the honda? Well one day I was mowing and didn't notice the rock a kid threw into my yard, BAM! shot straight up and out the top of the deck wrecking the mower. No warranty going to cover that. Now if you are worried about clumping on the Toro 30 inch there is one option you can try. According to another channel who says this worked for him he took off the front baffel under the deck which is mounted by two bolts and claims it fixed his problems. I cannot verify because I don't mow wet grass. Also I agree on the cleaning port mainly because it will damage your spindles. When you have to consider each spindle is around $75.00 each it can get costly. I will take getting 15 mins shaved off mowing vrs cleaning the deck anyday. And no it does not take 20 mins to clean the deck unless you are a weak snail. Less than 5 mins top using a house scrapper. What may discourage some may not bother others. I am diabetic I use the 30 inch so I can keep mowing, time matters.

@GarageGear 3 месяца назад

@@mrgreen2769 thanks for sharing mr green