Man, thanks for making a clear, concise start-up video. So many creators think every video needs to be an hour long. This gets the job done perfectly. Thank you.
Subscribed after 30 seconds in the video. I like the patience and articulation in the way you explain things (as weird as that sounds). Looking forward for your remaining 737 tutorials.
I have re-recorded this video with some extra information, and a more streamlined startup procedure - watch it here! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hwj9m9mdPzM.html
The functional startup procedure I wrote and (mostly) followed is available to download from here: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1A5VpSgNMW_ga4Nte6QvoUbCYbcm42nTz?usp=sharing You will need to join the forum to download. It's free, and we won't spam you. We're building a community of flight simulator enthusiasts - go explore :)
Thank You so much for doing this video. It was easy to understand and straightforward. I saved this video to watch again for future training in the sim
There's a second version of this video that's much better - the problem here was configuration of the switches on the Airbus quadrant. I ended up disabling most of them.
@@jonbeckett is it just me (because I’m a new PMDG 737 owner), or do the controller interfaces for manipulating cockpit buttons work differently compared to stock aircraft? For instance, to push a button on the FMC, I have to hit A on my controller three times… Once to select it. Once to actually push it. And then a final push of B to unselect it. There also isn’t any indication in the pop-up hints of the status of a switch when you hover the cursor over it. There also doesn’t appear to be an auto engine start… Unless I’m completely missing it somewhere in the key bindings. It’s definitely not what I already have bound to my controller. I still have yet to successfully make the aircraft flight ready from a cold dark start. Some things seem to work opposite of what you’re showing in your video, like the white engine 1 and 2 levers below the throttle quadrant; they’re already in the down position in the cold start. If I throw them upwards at 25% N1, it kills that engine. If I try starting them in the upward position, it won’t spool up past maybe 4%.
@@jonbeckett Thanks and thank you for they awesome videos. Also have you encountered not being able to remove the wheel chocks sometimes? Maybe I missed something but it would the first time
Thank you for try to help simmers new to the 737. But l do have many concerns of your level of understanding of this aircraft, not to mention, how to correctly set it up for flight. Failing to follow the FCOM is a very dangerous way to start. Ground power on before checking switches is a dangerous, eg if PACKs are in the on position and ground power is turned on, you will damage the PACKS so no cooling and no cabin pressure. Starting APU without first checking the fire system is working is dangerous as you don’t know if you can put out a fire if it starts. And starting up the APU is done after the FMC setup as you are using valuable fuel and it could result in a fuel imbalance between the wing tanks requiring intervention. Probe heat switches on before engine start (except for icing conditions) will burn out the heaters. Fuel introduction into the engines is recommended by Boeing to be 25%, not 22% as it can cause a hot start which will require engine shutdown. You forgot to turn isolation valve to Auto. Lots of reasons for this. And taking off in this configuration will result in warning horns going off. And other issues in flight. You can’t move forward as your brakes are still on as you after releasing brake switch, you need to tap your pedals. It’s a safety feature on the 737. Turning on reverses on the ground is a major NO NO as it throws debris forward which can get sucked into the engine causing damage or a fire, or injure ground crew. Yes military jets do it but the 737 doesn’t as the engines are too close to the ground. And your FMC, MCP, EFIS Control unit are not setup correctly so the autopilot won’t work, and the Flight Director with all it many benefits won’t work making this really hard to fly. This needs to be done before engine start. Your just wasting fuel doing things after engine start. These are just a few of the errors picked up. I’m not trying to be rude, but there is a reason for following the FCOM and the order of steps. And before making a video like this, you need to know how to set the 737 up properly, and how to fly it properly which lm not convinced you do. If the simmer decides to turn on the failures option, there will be lots as a result of not doing proper procedures. And when things go wrong, the simmers following your video, won’t know why because they did what you said. Teaching beginners so many incorrect procedures and bad habits doesn’t help them, it just causes confusion and failures in trying to fly this aircraft. I guess if Simmers don’t care about flying the 737 properly or using any of it great features, and just want to fly it, then maybe they’ll get off the ground with only a few alarms going off, although in the configuration l doubt they will be able to fly it properly. But why buy a study level aircraft and ignore how to fly it properly. There’s a $20 737 that won’t care what you do to it. But if spending all that money on the PMDG then isn’t it worth hoping simmers the correct and safe way to fly it.
As I've said all over the place - this is NOT an accurate start up of the aircraft. The order is incorrect, and the checks and balances are missing - it's purely the functional steps required *in the simulator* to get the aircraft up and running quickly :)
@@jonbeckett It is. It made me started taking this stuff seriously. Before I'd just start with the engines running. Now its just so much more fun @Cold and Dark.
Great video as always! For reference, in the 737-800NG the FMC too doesn't bring in the reference airport as the point of origin. Not sure which version of the 737 does that.
Did I not mention that? To be honest this is a "how to shortcut" demonstration - with a LOT missing. One day I will do a full work-up of the aircraft, but it will be three times longer, and bore everybody to tears :)
Thx Jonathan ! It was a painful download, but eventually got mine after technical issues had been sorted out. It was kind of expected, too many people requesting the same sources. Anyway, got it in the end, that's the main thing :) Heaps to learn, lets start !
yes my honeycomb controls weren't effecting the PMDG planes systems I noticed that if the parking break was on there it was like the plane had 2 parking brakes so had to make sure that one was off so just used the one in the plane
If you check the channel, I recorded a new version of this video - after configuring the controls properly (I had not done so when this was recorded). Configuration of axis for the 737 is a big subject - especially for those using the Airbus quadrant from Thrustmaster - I recorded a video specifically about it.
I hadn't configured the controller yet - and it was obviously in the wrong position. A full checklist would have covered that - this wasn't a full checklist at all :)
Overall a good video, but you did miss out some things and get a couple of things wrong, or not operationally correct. With battery power, an alarm will only sound if the IRS’s are turned on. Before starting the APU, make sure you do a fire test. Also, the APU is usually only started if you either need to warm/cool the cabin, or just before you’re due to push back. The reason being is that the GPU is much cheaper to use for electrical power than the APU. Also, you forgot to arm the Emergency Exit Lights and turn on the electric hydraulic pumps. It’s called a Mode Control Panel….and the speed window should be set to your V2 speed, not 220kts or whatever other speed. But other than that, your presentation is very good.
I said right at the start that it was a functional guide - missing out a LOT. And if you leave the aircraft on battery for a long time, it *will* start warning as the battery discharges. There's a second video (recorded today) that covers some more bits and pieces missed here.
@@jonbeckett I was only commenting from an active operational point of view on some minor things for future videos. With regards to the battery power, when on DC power, there is an amber BAT DISCHARGE light that comes on, but I don’t think there’s an aural alarm for it. I think the only aural alarm is only if the IRS’s are being powered by the DC, but I could be wrong. Haven’t seen the second video though.
hermano gracias por el video buenisimo tengo una pregunta el 737-700 que tengo por que se ven los motores ensendidos pero no tiene ninguna funcion se ve todo oscuro y nada funcona si me puedes ayudar con eso porfa gracias
@@jonbeckett hermano gracias ya lo resolvi solo tenia que desintalar el programa y volverlo a intalar era todo gracias de antemano me da mucho gusto su ayuda agradecido
Very informative... on a recent flight we were told before departure that people had to change seats as the plane wasn't balanced.. How did the captain know this?
I'm guessing people book specific seats - and the load sheet would detail that. I know the A321neo is especially susceptible to tipping if not loaded correctly.
Which part to startup the engine for the PMDG Boeing 737-700? when i startup the engine engine 1 startup is fine but when i startup engine 2 or when i turn on both engines it says engine fail some sort what could be the issue?
You need APU air, fuel, ignition, and the starter lever to start and run the engine - so check the APU air pressure (make sure packs are not on when you start the engine), check the fuel pumps are on, check the ignition is set to GRD, and switched to the appropriate engine, and the start lever behind the throttle.
To hear VATSIM you need to install a VATSIM client - one of the most popular is VPilot. To hear ATC in the game you need to tune in the COM radio to the appropriate frequencies, OR just open the ATC window and select the channel you want to listen to (there's an icon in the toolbar within the sim, or press SCROLL LOCK on the keyboard).
Hi again Jonathan, ran into another problem. I try to refuel the ACFT by requesting fuel truck and then putting in the desired fuel amount into the FMC however, the "fueling start" button is greyed out
And it mostly involves getting the APU running before you taxi to the Gate, pulling down the fuel introduction switches for the two engines (I forget the name they're called) and then reversing the processes you followed for start-up one by one.
Thanks for the video! If I want to make my flight plan in the game menu, how do I get it in to the aircraft with out making a complecated route by myself in the fmc?☺️ Thanks in advance!
It depends on the aircraft. Not in any of the "study level" payware aircraft - because they simulate the way the real aircrew enter flightplans. Even if you use Simbrief through some baked in feature in a cockpit, it doesn't bring in the whole flightplan.
Different liveries have different hardware configured (in line with the real variations of the aircraft) - you can configure each airframe via the FMC - MENU / PMDG / AIRCRAFT
How do you make your 737 start with everything turned off because when i start at a ramp or gate my systems and all are already turned on. Any help with this?
@@jonbeckett Yep followed everything correctly. It’s all good though from another one of your tutorial’s I discovered that we can just start up ready to taxi which I love the realism of the cold and dark it’s a bit much for me to process. Thank you for making great videos. It really helps
Thank you for the fantastic video! What I can't understand is the function of the little switch between the two starter knobs. I've seen videos on real cockpits where neither pilot bothers with it during start up. Also they keep switching the other two switches back and forth during the flight between the "OFF" and "CONT" position. What is the meaning of doing that? Thank you
“OFF” is just what it sounds like: the starters are not firing at all. “CONT” means Continuous ignition. It is used for takeoff and then re-engaged on approach in case of a go-around. The purpose of it is an extra safety to keep the engine running by continuously firing the ignition during fast thrust changes (takeoff/go around: thrust is quickly changed from idle to full thrust) to prevent engine failures
That's a really good question. At this point I don't know if the route you programme is understood by the ATC built into the simulator - something for me to look into too :)
Every time I try to load my position / origin airport into the FMC it tells me "not in database". This happens whatever the airport , what am I missing / done wrong
Hello Jonathan, I've got a problem with the 737, Whenever I load into the game with the aircraft, It always autostarts for example the Adirs are on and it haaas like it's batteries on and stuff. Any help?
Yep - the aircraft starts in a running state by default. Go into the FMC - MENU > PMDG > START STATE - you can set the start-up state, and it will remember it.
Hello guys i need help on my 737 800 i just bought it when i start the game its already started and the doors also opened already and it wont closed any help
Usually the EGSS would be saved in the scratch pad to be put into the origin airport, for your routing. PMDG must have done away with this and made you retype it, as you would in the real aircraft.
Hey, Thanks for the tutorial but when I spawn the pmdg 737 at the gate it isnt in its cold and dark position. All the systems are on. Do you know how to fix this? Thanks,
Hello Jonathan, When I start my 737-8 PMDG cold/dark, and start the GRND-PWR, after a few seconds the "TAKEOFF CONFIG" red alarm display ON and the throttle start to beeping. Do you have any thought what can be the problem? I try many things, changing throttle configs, etc, but no success. If i pull the throttle arm up/down than stop, but after couple seconds start beeping again... I'm kind of clueless.
Hello, I have a question. I have the TCA throttle quadrant and I'm wondering if it will work as intended with the PMDG 737-700 on default sensitivity settings. If not, is there anything I can do for it to work as intended with the PMDG 737-700.
Each livery of the 737-700 is a different configuration of the base aircraft - mirroring the real aircraft being simulated. Some have different options than others. If you look in the FMC, there are 15 pages of changes you can make to the aircraft :)
@@jonbeckett Oh wow... just saw that, amazing... Do you know if there is a way for that config to persist? it seems like after setting the HUD to be used, if I restart the mission or load a different flight with the same aircraft, i will have to go in again to the FMC and re-set the hud to be used
@@beepIL As far as I know, it's tied to the aircraft livery - so each livery essentially sets out the accurate features that the airframe has. I'm not sure you can create different ones without essentially creating a new livery.
@@jonbeckett and it doesn't work very well with my bravo throttle quadrant. Autopilot and innunciator panel doesn't activate the aircraft systems like it should. It's a very complicated system and though very detailed honestly not that fun to fly. I would fly the TBM anyday. Just far more advanced and simplified system.
@@sgtstedanko7186 If configured, the Boeing can fly the entire route all on it's own - from takeoff to landing :) I'd like to see the TBM do that (or carry 300 passengers from London to New York) :)
@@jonbeckett Yes if configured. But you see that's the issue. Every tutorial I watch to configure it like that, it's still fussy. I don't know if there's bugs somewhere in the code for this thing, or if there's limitations within the sim itself. The TBM isn't an airliner so hardly a comparison. Im talking about not having a million switches and a simple touch screen FMC. The Boeing is still nice but I'm starting to wonder if I wasted my money.
@@peterbassey9668 I have long forgotten about this mod for msfs (and msfs in general) but from what i can remember i eventually got it working, maybe a bug fix fixed my issue
DO NOT BUY IF YOU WANT POP OUT SCREENS - the PMDG 737 for MSFS DOES NOT HAVE THEM. This is essential if you are a home cockpit builder. Don’t get it now, wait until they add this functionality.
