Beginners Watch Oil Lubrication Without Going Broke 

Thanks Dave. I appreciate that.

Thanks Ralfy.

Thanks Danny.

I was going to say that but it sounded absurd. My watchmaking instructor in trade school gave a vial of watch oil that lasted for twenty years. Thanks Mr Payne.

Hi, are you sure D8000 is fine to replace HP1300? Because they have significant viscosity difference. Thanks for the video!

@@geoffreylimongan1748 If the goal is getting your feet wet and trying out the process of a movement service on cheaper practice movements then yes. Is it optimal? No. HP1300 has a much higher viscosity than 9010 and is for slower moving, low friction train parts and I've yet to find a cheaper mineral based alternative. However after properly cleaning all parts, even a thin film of low viscosity 8000 is still better than gritty dried old lubricant or none at all. I'd say if you do a few cheap movements and like the process and want to progress further down the watchmaking rabbit hole, invest in both 9010 and HP1300 as well as the few others I mentioned. Thanks.

@@24hourgmtchannel64 thank you so much for the insights

Hello David and thank you. Most if not all automatics require barrel wall braking grease and Moebius 8217 is what I recommend and is less expensive than Kluber P125. Unfortunately when it comes to braking grease there are no less expensive alternatives. Per Moebius description it is considered their universal soft braking grease "recommended for the lubrication of all types of barrels". As far as the spring itself it's manufacturer specific if it gets oiled as some are coated. For the ones that do call for lube Moebius 8200 or 8300 is commonly used. Regarding the pallet jewel surface for many years 8000 and 9010 was used however 941 and 9415 was specifically developed for this application with 9415 for over about 28000 bps and 941 for lower bps. Epilame, which I did not mention is used as a surface treatment to reduce runoff spread and keep the lubricant in place however 941 and 9415 has inherent properties that aid in this by itself though I see most watchmakers still treating the pallet in Epilame regardless.

@@24hourgmtchannel64 Thank you for your reply. That's exactly what I wanted to know.

Hello Valentech. Moebius 9415 can be used down to 18000 all the way up to 36000 without causing any timming related issues. Thanks.

Thank for watching and commenting. No need to worry about more expensive synthetics. Moebius and Novostar sell inexpensive mineral based oils of varring viscosities. Just stick the fundamentals which are: Faster moving train = lighter viscosity, Slower = thicker and metal to metal contact = grease and you should be fine. If you want to use synthetics NYE is USA based and makes more affordable synthetic clock oils as well.

Thanks Rehajm.

It was a guy in Wisconsin. I bought the two small jars a year ago but don't currently see his listing. He possibly may be experiencing supply issues. Here is the seller I purchased Molykote DX from which is a lesser expensive substitute for Moebius 9504 www.ebay.com/itm/281005359578?epid=1860375558&hash=item416d3981da:g:j7YAAOxyzGlQ6TT3

Yes. A medium to high pressure friction grease is used depending on the manufacturer spec. Moebius blue synthetic 9504 grease is the gold standard for watchmakers on the stem and keyless works however for a less expensive alternative for hobbyist you can use Molykote DX or KT22 grease.

I'd start with Esslinger. They have good prices.

@@24hourgmtchannel64 Thank you for your response.

Hello Keith. Prior to the development of synthetic watch oils service intervals we much sooner typically around two to three years. The switch to synthetics greatly extended service interval times because synthetics last longer. Rolex for example now recommends as long as ten years.

Thank you, that's really interesting and puts all is perspective. Keep up the good work.

941 for under 28800 bps and 9415 for 28800 and higher. 9010 was used in the past prior to 941 and 9415 however due to the high speed nature of the escape and pallet fork it creates a flinging effect which those two are better at staying put over 9010. If I were going to use 9010 I'd pre treat with 8981 fix-o-drop epilame. Also investing in hp1300 is good because it has more uses than just the slower train pivots.

Jules Borel & Co, Esslinger, Otto Frei.

Hello Amanda. Yes, I have heard that many watchmakers were getting away from Kluber and MolyKote due to contamination in cleaning solutions. It's not as much of an issue for home hobbyist.

For beginners trying to get their feet wet, I'd start with a bottle of inexpensive Moebius 8000 which is a mineral based less expensive version of 9010 synthetic. www.esslinger.com/moebius-8000-classic-watch-oil-1-ml-bottle-individual/?gclid=CjwKCAjwwsmLBhACEiwANq-tXCi_uFNl8PIxWj7t1ZqAS_Ejj7BRnotCsF8uw-oP0mpmOvySIo_SgxoC4WkQAvD_BwE Then get some KT22 grease for keyless works, etc. The jar costs $4.89 and will last a long time www.esslinger.com/kt22-microlubricant-watch-grease-and-moisture-sealer/ If your interest in watchmaking continues, you can begin to invest in the more expensive synthetic oils I showed in the video. Thanks.

Thank you very much

Keyless and motion works - Molykote, Moebius 9501 and 9504.

Braking grease. The clear small flat one being very expensive Kluber P125 a fellow watchmaker gave me and the small brown bottle I bought on eBay is Moebius 8217 which is a Braking grease for brass barrel walls. Moebius also sells 8213 for aluminum walls. Kluber P125 brand seems to be the most popular amongst professional watchmakers and spec'd out by manufactures recommended oil charts.

Sure. Molykote www.ebay.com/itm/281005359578?epid=1860375558&hash=item416d3981da%3Ag%3Aj7YAAOxyzGlQ6TT3&LH_BIN=1 The eBay seller I bought the small bottles of Moebius braking grease from is out.

Are you trolling