Alex Honnold said this Dawn Wall for the first time is still the most difficult achievement in climbing history, I believe him, he also said he didn't even want to try it. Caldwell obsessed and invented his own route for years through a never climbed wall, it was an impossible dream, but his talent and tenacity made it possible. Respect for both, Alex mentally impossible feat and Caldwell's.
Alright, you guys stop comparing what Alex Honnold did and what both of these guys did, you cannot compare it, its almost 2 different sports at this point. Alex climbed a 5.12d in less than 4 hours without ropes and with only a chalk bag, that is incredible. These guys climbed the hardest wall ever, yes with ropes but it is still and incredible milestone. You cant compare the routes because you cannot do a super hard route when you free solo a 3000ft wall, it would be too dangerous, obviously. For you guys saying that Alex'es mental had to be tougher ( even though is personally agree) : imagine waking up everyday for 3 weeks to go and climb the hardest wall ever. You guys would lose motivation after 3 days so it is still a gigantic mental effort that they had to put in and is it worthy of our respect. All three of these guys are some of the best rock climbers ever and their respective milestones are great in their way. Stop comparing them and appreciate.
What both of them have done is remarkable & some of the most incredible events to happen in the history of all athletics. Alex took an route he believe would make it the easiest & he was most comfortable on. The fact he solo’d the wall is freaking nuts but they Tommy & Kevin took on a section no one has free climbed before. Making their own route. What they did is incredible. Hats off to tommy, Kevin, & Alex. all of them have done things that won’t be replicated for a long time if ever.
Ah, No. The whole game is controlling your fear. When you fall, fully relying on your rope and realize that the pro holds, the fear disappears. Well placed protection removes the fear. Without any thing to fall back on all bets are off. There is only so much you can control. While Alex rehearsed every move there was always the possibility of random uncontrolled events occurring. With a rope these are trivial. ( a bird flying in your face, the weather changing unforeseen, a stray pebble falling at the exact time your are about to place your foot on a hold, etc). Alex’s climb of El Cap is the singular event in all climbing.
Totally agree. Valley Uprising is a good one to watch before the others. It gives the viewer a lot of history about the walls, routes, legends, etc. I also recommend Meru. It’s not rock climbing, more so ice climbing and traversing. Jimmy Chin and Conrad Anker are in that one. All really great movies with such cool people.
Caldwell is such a decent guy that, even though he did what he needed to do to save his life and that of his comrades, he was traumatized for a long time after that. Watch the film and they explain how heart broken he was to push a killer to his death. That guy survived, though. Amazingly. So Tommy is off the hook.
Well now I got to see this film. Shots look amazing and everyone says the story behind it is really good. And the dedication to those shots are insane, super impressive
The behind the scenes should be just as important because without that teamwork, it’d be just two guys climbing? Great vid. Appreciate the camera team and editing support to bring to attention of awesome achievement as well as more history of Tommy, Kevin and the whole experience. 🙏🙇
After seeing this... I imagined how our work bring joy and hardship... No work is easy... So I'm holding on to what I am right now no matter how hard it is... Thanks for documenting your life as photographer and cinematographer.. You risk your life while enjoying the scenery and letting us see how beautiful the world is
Without doubt, yall have extreme talent and trust in each other, not to mention waking up to see the sunrise while 1200 feet above the floor of elcapitan, definitely put in the work to earn the privileges that most of us will only see on a digital screen, incredible
The Dawn Wall film/documentary was such a good watch! I'm not particularly into wall climbing or bouldering but Tommy and Kevin really got me interested. Great movie, beautiful shots and artwork.
Honestly, after watching this Dawn Wall documentary, I can't understand all the fuss about Free Solo, especially when they came out roughly at the same time. This one is a different class (higher!) than Free Solo. Both in terms of athletic feat and how the film was done... However, I understand that the audience gets easily carried away by their emotion stemming from sheer horror of hazarding life when free soloing El Capitan. And then Alex doesn't day and the audience is relieved and so on... But this is just so much better! The storytelling, the amazing performance of the climbers...
Not to edit I heard about this guys on my Literature book.. The name of the chapter was Dreaming of the dawn wall.. No matter what I really appreciate them and a great salute to these pair of duo's who did the hardest climb ever
I watched it on Netflix . CRAZY! I learned a lot about mountain climbing that I no clue about. Would i do it ? HELL NO! But i admire the sport like watching it and i admire their bravery and courage that they have. Hats off to them!
One time I drank like 20 Red Bulls and climbed Mt. Everest with no gear, or safety equipment. Hell, I didn't even use oxygen. But, tge next day I woke up in the hospital and realized it was all a dream. 😓
@@weAreNotAloneHere Forrealz tho! Like a 'out of body experience' kinda? 😐💀😝😂, and oohhh Tin can? Lol, kinda sounds like the 'Tin Man' 😂😂😂 ig thas wat they call them nowadayz haa
I this case, the route (bolts in the rock) was built by the same two climbers featured in this film. It is typical for the route setters to be the first ascnsionists (and to be the ones to name the route).
@@dr.doppeldecker3832 no he can't, he doesnt use it to grip at all. He had to figure out a whole new way to crimp as well cos the usual way depends on the index finger to lock it in
Just saw this yesterday on Netflix. Simply incredible. I have mountain biked with many climbers. They are a different kind of human altogether. This is simply an amazing story.
I know you guys froze and the whole ordeal was insane trying to film it, but with all my heart, I thank you for doing it. That was honestly the single best thing I've ever seen.
Non-climber here. I loved this movie. I especially loved how much time they spent with Jorgeson on pitch 15. It completely drew me in. I never knew when - or if - he would send it. As time went on I began to almost feel as if I was up there with them. That night sequence was pure brilliance. And this Behind the Scenes shows the extraordinary accomplishment of the camera crew, who completely disappear in the film itself. Exceptional! Question: at 6.07 that cable which seems to stretch far off to the horizon at about 1 o'clock in the frame - how on earth did that get there? These cameramen, hanging there for endless hours in the cold filming every attempt: the unsung heroes. I enjoyed this film far more than Free Solo.
I'm a Honnold fan and have been waiting for Free Solo since Alex climbed but I find Dawn Wall a better watch than Free Solo coz the latter has been edited to be more of love story Well done Red Bull Dawn Wall team!
@@jordanadkins2427 Yeah, but Free Solo is more "produced." There are some scenes that were obviously clumsily setup by the director(s). Also Alex Honnold imo is less of an interesting character than Tommy Caldwell.
I've had this movie in my list on netflix for months, but I only now watched it. It is so good! Perfect story with the challenges and pathos. The perseverance is unparalleled.
People keep comparing Tommy's climb of the dawn wall and Alex's freesolo of the freeride route. Both have said that they are completely different climbs. The freesolo is difficult by nature of the circumstances, and the dawn wall climb was one of the hardest routes ever put up. Both were thought to be impossible.
Just watch both movies last week. They are both amazing! Its really a pity that they both came out at the same time. I thought Free Solo was a better made documentary, something about the feeling, music and story telling was better. That said The Dawn Wall was equally good in regards to the feat that they accomplished!
@@T0BBi94 That's weird, I thought The Dawn Wall was way better. I think it's mostly due to how likeable Tommy is compared to Alex. The moments where Tommy was basically telling Kevin he's waiting for him to finish pitch 15, as long as it takes, no rush, because he didn't want to do it without him. That was such an amazing scene. Imagine having this insane dream everyone says is impossible and having it within arm's reach only to tell your partner you'll wait for them because you don't want to finish with them. Alex literally told his girlfriend to bugger off so he didn't have to think about her.
Travis Hance Alex required a calmness of mind without gf distractions, as that could have led to certain death. It’s a bit unfair to compare the consequences.
I watched Free Solo first and then gave The Dawn Wall a try. Hands down, The Dawn Wall is a better story and definitely more inspiring on a personal level. Although Alex's climb is an amazing accomplishment, I felt sad for Sanni at the end of the film. Compare that to how Tommy treated Kevin toward the end of the film, and you'll see what I mean.
Alex told her from the very start that climbing is more important to him than her. Expecting something else after that would be calling Alex a lier. She had to option to leave any time if she felt she was badly treated.
This is an incredible film and feat. This and Free Solo are so different. Physically different and emotionally different. Alex appears somewhat detached ( emotionally and possibly also some general brain thing, the brain scan was interesting) that I feel helps him take the incredible risks that he does, of course it's still a major achievement, but if you don't feel quite the huge level of fear that others might, the battle is different. Alex does feel a level of the fear of course, but there is definitely also a helpful detachment. I can't help feeling that the mastery of the fear and the incredible resilience required to do so is the biggest part of the overall achievement for me. It's not about the height of the wall, the physical risks or the time, it's about the quality, depth and intensity of that journey, what battle is overcome. In that regard, Dawn Wall touched me more, impacted me more and made a bigger overall impression on me. I was fascinated and impressed by Free Solo, but it had a very different quality
I totally understand why Chin's Free Solo won the Oscar, and why it is so popular. Honnold and McCandless are so charming and so beautiful as a couple, and AH overflows charisma, not to mention the gorgeous sound track and the imminence of death. But this doc. (Dawn Wall) is much more profound and much more beautiful, not to mention Caldwell is an angel. His solidarity with Jorgeson is what makes every people I h3ve talked to shed emotional tears on the scene they finish the climb. I have lost count of the number of times I saw this film.
