@@dominicshaw4140 I've always had a bit of love for the 303 and its drum machine siblings, but hearing you call Acid "the punk rock of these machines" finally tied it all together. I love all kinds of electronic music, but hearing the punk rock analogy finally described why I love the 303 and the 606 as a combo. Thanks to the two of you for putting this together. Watching you just kind of jam a random chord into the sequencer with a random timing sequence was an inspiration. I have an TD-3 at the house and an RD-6 on the way this weekend. I can't wait to jam on them.
I'd rather have a behringer 303 than no 303 at all... I can't afford the original or some of the clones and the tb3/tb03 from Roland just didn't do it for me. Music isn't about what gear you have, more what you do with it 😁
Great work, really good to watch. History, science, engineering and art all in one video. I'd love to see Dom take on an OP-Z to see what he'd produce as a blind test.
I shall provide the geek response as requested. The reason the TB-303's sound different is that, to cut costs, Roland used cheaper components with around 10% tolerance in variation of the actual value they were supposed to be. So, each TB-303 with be different to another +/- 10%.... ish.
When I hear “unreliable transistor”, my mind coming from the guitar world hears “germanium diode.” These were used in early fuzz pedals and provided a sound where they would be sensitive to temperature changes and humidity. They were switched to silicon diodes because they were less temperamental than germanium. Some companies make faithful recreations but at the end of the day, silicon is the way to go.
I’ve owned a TD3 for several months now- I’ve watched at least half a dozen how-to videos and I’ve used it several times on tracks. But THIS VIDEO is by far the best resource I’ve found regarding both the high-level spirit of the instrument AND the granular use of the knobs, sequencer, etc. I will revisit this often.
I'd love a simple sampler of some sort as a loop player, I had an octatrack for a while but it was too demanding of my time to familiarise myself with it... Amazing machine but a lot to get ur head round 🤯🤣
I recently picked up a TD-3 and an RD-6. I have been having a lot of fun with them. I like the distortion on the TD-3. So sound isn't classic acid. But it's definitely acid style with distortion. I plan on picking up a distortion pedal to see how that sounds. For how cheap these units are; they are worth getting if you like this type of sound. I love that they come in different colors. I got both in purple. Fantastic bit of kit.
That fist bump looked like it hurt a bit :-P Regarding entering time, it's a note or tie (not quaver/triple, that's for changing between regular quarter notes or triplet timing and this is per pattern), and the last one is rest. Having the pitch separate from the timing is what makes it awesome.
Wow, amazing episode. Dom is a true sounds seeker. I just bought my first td 3 and this week has been great, rd 6 seem to be a reliant and good drum machine...thanks for info, the tips, the history, greetings from chile.
I don’t like the distortion either. Give me a delay with ping-pong anytime. I’d also would’ve liked a knob to extend the gate to blur the notes. Bit of legato.
Personally I think the distortion circuit is a nice addition and suits the 303 sound, it's a Boss DS-1 basically. Nothing stopping you adding more pedals and such to the output **shrug** .. it's also enabled for the first half of this vid until it's brought up. Anyway let's see what this new version on Friday will be like
General midi is something completely different issit ? It was a general standard for soundsets and organizing these to be played back in uniform manner
Thank you for posting this video! I just picked up the TD-3AM because I've been into psy/goa trance for years, have always wanted the real TB-303. Now I have the closest thing to it, with maybe even some improvements! My question to you is about changing key while playing, you make it look so easy. But It doesn't work for me, when I hold down the pitch mode key, it doesn't light up like yours does. Can you tell me what I'm doing wrong? One more thing if you don't mind, this is my first entry into making music like this, other than making some interesting tracks on my Roland MC-303 Groovebox! Remember that one, a precursor to these modern machines? But I need drums, would the RD-6 be my best option to the TD-3, for a newbie just learning these things? I'm thinking yes, and if you agree, I will go buy one! Btw, just subscribed, thanks for your help!!!
Aw thanks mate a lot of my stuff is still out for download from 909london.com There's also some live stuff and some unreleased free download stuff on soundcloud all acid techno... Search for Squat Dom I believe some bits of vinyl are still circulating too stay up forever records may have some in stock still thanks for the feedback xx❤️
Does Dom have a RU-vid channel? Just got the td3, and hoping he does a tutorial as he’s really good to watch n listen to. If not, can any of you link me any td3 tutorials that’s good for beginner. Cheers… Xx
I'm crashing at a pals house in the country atm.. When I get back I'll pop a quick vid of the sequencing n wot not thanks for the encouragement and keep making acid! 😘
Great video! Great history lesson! However, as best i can figure, there are no samples in the RD-6, it's all analog. Unless I heard that wrong, 31:55, he says that the claps and hats are samples, I don't think so. I think Roland did the samples on their TR-06, but Behringer went full analog, thank you Behringer.
Roland only use samples for the authentic 909 cymbals/hats and 727/707 sounds on the dedicated drum machines (TR-8/8S, TR-6S). The MC grooveboxes use sampled 808/909 sounds, but the TRs - although digital - model the original synthesis without samples.
Shouldn't you have an RD-9 to accompany the TD-3 by now? I think that is what everyone is waiting to see/ hear. It would be a shame if Andertons does not do it first.
There are a couple of explanations regarding the variable nature of the original Roland units. It was not necessarily cost cutting on Roland’s part, but the materials that they were made from made it difficult to obtain the tight tolerances needed for accurate pitch and timbre. Germanium transistors have a unique sound, but are not so consistent as silicone ones. Capacitors and resistors are graded for value in micro farads and Ohms after manufacture. More recently a small number of companies including Behringer itself have been remanufacturing the chips which are used in oscillators, filters and envelope generators as analogue synthesis has gained renewed popularity alongside digital technology. Behringer have produced several clones of old units - sometimes to justifiable criticism. More recently they have produced a knock off copy of the Arturia Keystep a current product which is unique and deservedly popular. That is unacceptable and is clearly stealing intellectual property.
if only B has a bit of normal respect of intellectual property... it would be a no brainer. the recent devil fish case made me doubt if I should continue supporting this company. btw the outro jam is sick.
I recommend just sequencing it through MIDI. Overlapping notes are tied with the firmware update and it uses velocity for the accent, so I don't think you'd miss much unless you just like the 303 workflow.
I do think (no personal experience) that the awkward sequencer is what made the 303 based genres what they are, so I appreciate them for that. But that's easy to say coming from somebody that doesn't have to use it lol
Loved this session - Jack & yourself on good form! You obviously know your acid from someone who also made tracks from early 90s - distortion using the Mackie & Soundcraft desks - yes! Sold my 303 in London in 2001 for £600 with case - maybe you bought it?! Have a TB-03 but looking to get one of these or new Behringer devilfish announced on Friday.
The TD3 is a crafty machine, I have had 2 of them. The price and sound makes you sell your TB303 but after a few weeks you realise it’s not as good as the original and you get what you pay for. The sound is ok but at the top frequencies it just screeches too much. There is nothing like the TB303. People have tried for 30 years to emulate it but it’s too special.
@@CollapseReport Just because something is more expensive doesn't mean it isn't worth it. It's also more important now than ever to think about WHO you're giving your money to, that's our only real vote in life.
@@kirabarsmith9353 well i bought so many vintage years ago from Oberheims , Sequential , Vermona etc etc etc real old 1970's stuff and i m serious happy with the Behringer clones . My Alesis Andromeda A6 was always broken . My Dave Smith Evolver had bad encoder pots etcetc the Behringers don't have this and my choice is made let the old stuff rest in musea .
@@markuskoivisto because they do not care at all about respect for other synthesizer designers, just copy what you like. We‘ll see what we get next Friday, although I would like to have CV/Gate in 😅
@@gnthr7992 yes, I like the new version, don‘t like the direct copy of Devilfish features though, why not having some initiative and innovation Behringer?
