Being an Early Adopter SUCKS - Trying to Fix Burn-in on my LG CX 

Almost as bad as a license audit burned in to LMG's wallet!

I mean... you literally wouldn't notice because it is always there...

@@HazewinDog Shit that's actually true but if you do something else on it or activate Windows finally you'll still see the watermark XD

Why doesn't he activate Windows?

It pretty much is already tbh

Elsa!?

@@thekrippledgoat4521 no, this is Patrick!

Haha!

crack that crap already

@@thekrippledgoat4521 do you wanna build a snowman?

They actually do cover it under warranty. Where i am from they give 3 years.

@@bullseye6969 In some territories they may be legally required to.

@@bullseye6969, sadly not in my country, and now I have a 55" LG OLED B7P purchased at the beginning of 2019 *with a big burn-in area on the middle of the screen,* especially with the red pixels (in the middle of the screen, all red colors look much darker than they should, all yellow things look green since yellow is made up of red and green, and purple things look more blue since purple is made up of red and blue), plus the smaller burn-in areas left by channel logos and other static things around the screen 🤷🏻‍♂. It was partly my mistake for trusting that model despite being from 2017 (I thought this problem with OLEDs was the same for all TV models regardless of the year and that it wasn't so serious as some people said), but maybe I would have had the same bad luck with a 2019 model. 🤔

@IAlwayswin 😂

@@krismagix1 b7 is oldd now

So will this with the upcoming QD-OLED TV's of LG, I am sure he will switch again

thats pc gaming in a nutshell or gaming in general.

Wow, the amount of spam here is insane.

@@CheapBastard1988 Take the time to report it as spam. If enough of us do it, maybe it will accomplish something.

Why, why? 😭😭😭

Place your bets who do from lmg do you think hearted this

Is it still PTSD if it's still happening?

Sounded like a John Mulaney impression

Thats riley with some editing🤣

I thought the acid kicked in earlier....

Hes getting there ..

i don't like it i want his original voice back

Oh wow so the burn in thing is an actual issue then?

I had b7 65' and had terrible burn in, after 4 years of normal usage. Never LG again thanks. I spoke to the LG technican and he said he has not seen to much models older than 5 years without burn in. So LG just fools their customers unfornutaley. They offered me to change the oled panel for 2.000 eur. Haha. I bought Samsung qn95 instead.

@@user-pv9pv4xf9c oh Jesus yes. On oled displays it's much more likley too happen and sooner.

Only had burn in on my iPhone 6 where the keyboard was always on screen at about 20% opacity

@@cybertones942 Iphone 6 used lcd screen, impossible to have burn in. it was not OLED

Holy shit thanks bro haha

🤯 Thank you for sharing.

I’ve got that set up on my lg tv. Only downside is that I keep forgetting which device is in which input.

Holly smoke didn't realise that, thanks

That's a really nice trick. Is there a way to create a shortcut for live TV? It's only letting me create a shortcut for a specific channel, but I'd like to go back to the channel I was watching.

linus beard tips

Linus man tips

looks and sounds stopped up and sick to me, probably that f@#king covid

Did I ask though

I want my lesbian anarchist cat girl linus back!

"Thanks Steve!"

OLED burn in is one of human technological failures. Early adopters pay full price (before price drop 1-2 years later) to get a bad technology.

@@fynkozari9271 Any new technology will have hickups that won't be surfaced, until enough people use it for enough time. That's the downside of being an early adopter. It's another problem, when warranty doesn't cover something that it probably should.

Why are you everywhere

Sick Linus still feels weird. (from the video "SIXTEEN Cores for the Price of EIGHT!")

Stole my comment

@@sv009d oh no looks like someone sad smh Edit: I meant to say bro I dont care if your comment was stolen if we are enjoying the first comment we see then your comment that supposedly got stolen doesnt matter. Why? because we saw this comment first, we can steal anybody's comment in youtube just let other people enjoy it

@@kinga1925 How many times have you used that on someone?

OLED's is just not good enough yet for stuff like office use. Text gets blurry, and the pixel refresher is beyond unacceptable for close viewing for longer times. You don't notice it as much when just viewing a movie or playing a game on a larger distance to the screen, but people might think they developed an eye disease when seeing the computer screen moving around every 5 seconds

FR-S fuel pump anyone?

Dead pixels on Switches. My Lite CAME with a dead pixel.

Antenna gate anyone?

They probably wanted you to reshoot Tokio drift

iPad mini jelly scrolling too

It is covered

@@Manydesign No its not

@@Manydesign not from lg direct, not Costco, not Amazon, nowhere

@@armandopacheco-soto3592 I’m pretty sure when I purchased my TV from Costco it came with an extended warranty. If that warranty covers screen burn it I’d have to read the fine print.

@@jaclark45 read directly from their websites or look it up online; they don't cover burn in.

lmao yeah they imprinted it :D

The LG CX already has its own dimming settings that are nice. I’ve slept with my TV on I’m not proud of it but it’s all right I’ve had it for a year zero burn in. I would get the OLED Once you experience once you do there’s no going back for me

My c1 is coming soon. Switched the roku screensaver to black screen after 1 minute lol. I wonder if i can go shorter

@@craigf2137 after my experience, and having burns ins on my c9 I can proudly sy, half an hour is the sweet spot i f your brightness is not on 100%

OLED still has too short lifespan lol doesnt matter wtf you do, the pixels burn away as they are used so maximum life you can get with heavy use is a couple years.

@@craigf2137 just got mine a week ago a C1 it’s great

@@GloomDept lol like the sega genesis game lol?

That is only considering if it has the same amount of fuel/same fuel source.

@@Camelotsmoon not really. it's more about the length of the candle. presuming two candles of the same type burned at different intensities, the brighter one will get melted first

all those pixels will be lost in time like... Tears in rain.

Unless you blow one of them out

*laughs in led lightbulbs*

xD

Technically it's uneven degradation, so I guess they know they can get away with it

what are u using instead? I have a cheapo 43" TCL as my monitor. It's quite good considering I only paid $200 for it. Recently I got a new notebook that showed me my TCL screen really lacks saturation and color accuracy. I was going to get the 48" LG A1 but now I'm not so sure.

lol dude you will decide to buy another tv by the time you could notice a burn in that will affect your tv experience

@@CJBhattarai the technology has probably moved on since I made that comment a year ago

@@CJBhattarai I use TVs for 5+ years these have a burn in much faster…

@@lizichell2 "burn in is a thing of the past" is what i heard when i bought my C7, guess what happened a few years later, and guess what phrase people are still repeating now, lol.

​@@CJW0056nothing else looks acceptable though

Did I ask though

Scrolled down to find this comment, not disappointed.

I don't get it

@@iangabriel5536 It's a Gamer's Nexus catchphras3

I have used my LG CX 48" as a desktop monitor for over a year now. Zero burn in. That's about 8h usage 5 days a week for work and any personal use on top of that. But I do run dark mode where available, auto hide the taskbar, use a black background, use a screensaver and run it at about 20-30 OLED light setting which is more than bright enough for me. These are all one time setup mitigations that you don't even think of after a while. I don't expect this display to last me 5-10 years but I expect by the time it has issues I can replace it with whatever is the latest and greatest and still have spent less than some of the higher end LCD monitors on the market today.

@@kasakka if you owned a Android phone you would know about oled same thing applies

Someone should make mods for games to create non-static UIs that constantly move every 20 seconds or so.

@@kasakka how can you even see with 20-30 OLED light unless it’s in a pitch black room? I find the CX super dim unless it’s 70 OLED light..

I have used an LG B9 for 2 years as a second screen, used for gaming and movies. Maybe 4 hours of use per day. No issues, apart from a vertical band of pixels that shimmer every now and then in the same place, but goes away after turning tv off.

True

Linus.......'it's some where inbetween' ...... no linus.......it's what Wendall tells you it is

@Puji Astuti This is so ridiculous I can't tell if it's actual bot spam or a troll pretending to be one.

@@ThePppp89 hahahaha xD that's called ad within a comment.

I've had Alienware laptop 13" R3 and only have it set for 15 minutes hibernate and a scroll of Steelers background/Black every 5 minutes and I don't have any burn in for 5 years now. Replacing laptop due to CPU age and low hard drive SSD space.

Flying Toasters are there to save the day!

OLED TVs have that, my Philips TV asks after like 12 hours runtime if it can start the cleaning procedure or it does it when in standby. And after 2 minutes of a static picture an actual screensaver kicks in. All my Smartphones since the Galaxy S1 had OLED screens, I don't get how people still think that this burn in or better said detoriation won't happen when displaying static images like OS elements. This is why I avoid the laptops with OLEDs, even though they look amazing.

I wonder if my license for the trains screen saver that I bought almost 20 years ago still works! Or if it still exists even :P

I am just now coming to the realization of why it's called a "screen saver."

@@realredfox It's funny because none of my phones since the S1 have any burn in. Not the S1, not the S4, J3, S7, and now on the S10e. Y'all seem to blast crazy brightness, use always on display, and avoid dark modes like the plague... That old S1 has zero burnt pixels. Zero. I do not understand how to produce AMOLED burn in in 3 years on the Samsung AMOLEDs. Or maybe I do, because anytime I see someone's else phone it blinds me with 100% brigtness eye-searing face punch.

Yea oled isn't for "normal" people. It's for folks who watch high end content in dolby vision+dolby atmos. Burn is a non issue in movie consumption.

Exactly. For content consumption (this included) I'm still using a Pioneer Pro plasma.

@@PeskyWabbit. It's for anyone who knows what they're getting and wants the things it specifically offers. "Not for normal folks is a gatekeeper" mindset

Its for people who can justify the bomb cost of buying a TV or monitor at huge cost knowing it will be guranteed e waste after a few years use.

Yeah, I think a swivel based mount would be perfect. You have the main monitor in front of you and the the OLED on top. And then when you want to game on the OLED, you would just spin the mount and now the OLED would be in front of you and the main monitor on top. They wouldn't be on at the same time but you would always have it in an ideal position to look at. Idk, just a fun idea that I had :D

That’s not what he was talking about, he was specifically talking about the firmware updates ruining themselves.

@@wholesome2792 I'm not saying Linus said anything incorrect. Just a note of something he didn't mention that I think viewers should be aware of.

@@nacthenud okay I understand

delete the log then

@@walkiacid9265 LG: where log?

Let's also remember that LG is a constant sponsor on Linus channel. I think, even though he might be trying to avoid bias, he should also disclose this info as a disclaimer.

@@yukimurabrify that’s literally the entire purpose of the video

@@yukimurabrify gotta start doing the garand thumb disclaimer

Yeah. Now that Linus has highlighted it, I hope we finally see an end to the "certain type" of stubborn customers who insist OLED has zero risks and were willing to argue that to death online. I will not buy any OLED, ever. Waiting on microLED instead, which is tiny LEDs that serve the same purpose without the downsides.

@@BenderdickCumbersnatch I'm counting on the warranty laws of my country if anything ever goes wrong. They're pretty great!

Or just don't use an oled as a monitor

@@TheRandomshite123 I've had an oled for years as a monitor. It's fine

@@Viscte yeah I'd rather not jump though hoops and lose functionality in order to have it not be useless within a year, like every phone I've ever had that was oled, all had youtube and notifications burnt in within a year

@@TheRandomshite123 I hide my bars and use my windows in Fullscreen mode and hide my game huds even when I'm not using OLED. My 77' OLED looks pretty damn good, much better than trash LED with washed out blacks. It must suck to not be able to afford nice things though.

Seems like jumping through a lot of hoops.

or at anything bright

I do that with closing my eyes and staring at the sun. The reddish glow gets progressively red, then when you open your eyes, everything has a strong blue tinge to it. Apparently it's caused by some colour receptors being overloaded and takes some time to come back.

Yes I tried stating at the sun and now all I see is white

@@yogetrekt8243 doesn't even have to be bright. Your eyes and brain auto adjust just like cameras today.

It always happens to me. Sometimes I find myself daydreaming while staring at LED bulbs and when blink I see black dots shaped like the bulb

Auto screen off : 1min

@@HappySlappyFace 😂how bad that thing hahah

Or put an screensaver

That paranoia is exactly why i try to avoid OLED displays, it's distracting and not at all worth it to me.

@@voltaicfire1825 Same. I don't want to worry about them, and I don't want to have to replace them soon. Large displays can last a very long time, so why create extra garbage for a little better performance? My 65" LCD TV is from ~2010, and I have monitors from the late 2000s still in use. All my displays get used as computer monitors or media centres, so they've all had extensive use with static content.

Punny

Not if you use teletype!

No doubt. I wouldn't even buy an OLED TV. Just knowing you have to baby your screen like that and still have to worry about ruining it is too much for me.

I have a digital camera with oled.. ok pretty old Olympus. Burn in included... But only visible when the image is nearly dark but this thing do not run for hours like a monitor

I'm choosing Neo QLED instead for my new monitor.

Cool, but why everyone putting them into laptops then? Also many more monitors are coming with an OLED panel ;/

I've had an OLED TV for years, no issue. Your comment is very true though as a ckmp monitor yiu have lots of static icons etc

This is my plan as I just hung an lg c1 yesterday.. how's your tv holding up?

@@nickgarcia1292 Great! No issues.

@@Porphyrios1 cool, just mounted my lg gn27950 next to the tv today. Really don't want burn in after only 5 months like Linus. Hoping it lasts 2-3 years at least..

This is what I do to. No burn in on my c9 yet. Had it for. 2.5 years

I don't get this video, they used an OLED TV as a monitor and now they complain about burn in?

Haha, this comments needs to be on top.

Hah

Indeed. At first I was bummed out that I couldn't get a 48 inch version of the C1 but got a 55 inch instead so I couldn't have it on my PC desk, so I had it placed separately. It wasn't long till I realized that was a blessing in disguise. I still have my PC connected to it, as well as my consoles. But knowledge of burn in is extremely helpful in preventing it from happening. I only use the PC for it when I'm going to play a game or watch a movie, and if I somehow need to do other things using the TV, I would make sure I'm changing what's on the screen very often to ensure nothing bright stays anywhere. If it is inevitable and I have to be on a window for a long time, I would just turn the OLED pixel brightness all the way to 1 or 3 from 100 as I can still see clearly and quality is not a need for the task. For movies for which I also prefer subtitles always, I have turned down the opacity of them in VLC so the white is more greyish and transparent, so it isn't bright and much less prone to causing burn in. For consoles it's similar. When playing a game, if I want to take a quick break by pausing to check my phone for like 10 minutes or so, while on my phone I would switch through menus in the game every minute or so, or go to the home screen to make sure nothing stays on for long. If it's longer I would simply go to the settings and use the display off feature which I can turn on again by pressing any button. I don't even need to do all this since I at best would use the TV like 5-6 hours a day and 3-4 hours on average, some days I wouldn't at all. But knowing about burn in I still take precautions, and because of it I'm almost certain I won't experience it. Heck even while playing games like visual novels I would try to go to the home menu or open up other menus for a few seconds every now and again. It isn't annoying to me at all, I like taking care of it as it's very expensive.

Also running it on 80 OLED brightness setting?! In dimly lit room I have 10-15 for regular stuff and 40 for HDR, its plenty bright enough.

@@igors_lv this is so true I have it on auto, but except for movie night with a good blu ray it's always at 20/40% maximum. At night even 10-20% or it hurts. Maybe 100% once in a while if I play in full day light on summer with the sun on the face lol. Have it from 2017 and no problems so far gaming on it even with the pc.

I can appreciate that, and certainly it’s “different strokes for different folks”, but I could never justify this for myself because I’m too OCD and need my displays to be as close to perfect as possible at all times. So for computer stuff, I’m sticking to LCD with high quality local dimming instead until micro-LED or something similar can take the place of LCD (honestly micro-LED will probably also have burn in issues because of their size). It’s why I bought the M1 iPad Pro 12.9” when it came out because I realized there’s a chance these devices will transition to OLED soon, and I’d like to be able to just keep using my 1600 nits HDR display as a 1600 nits HDR display without being afraid it’s going to look like rubbish in 6 months for doing so. I can live with a tiny bit of backlight bleed when there are bright spots on the screen because it’s almost never actually visible beyond the light bleed that eyeballs and glasses lenses already create in super high contrast images anyway. I can’t wait for a real groundbreaking new technology that gives us the best of both worlds at the same time. I do think the latest OLED screens are probably perfectly suited to TV and movies at this point, but you still have to accept a fairly limited lifespan if you want to actually be able to enjoy the specs you spent the money to buy. I mean if I was going to buy a 1000 nit HDR OLED screen and turn it down to 300 nits, I would just as soon save the money and buy a 300 nit OLED with a few replacements and have cash left over. I don’t mind spending money on good quality products, but I don’t consider something that has visible issues or visible degradation within a year to be acceptable unless it’s actually cheap, and the really desirable OLEDs are not cheap at all. That’s too rich for my blood.

I have 3300 hours on mine in 8 months. Over 12 hours a day. No burn in. Just use darkmode everywhere. Most apps have it available. Chrome has a mode that turns white pages dark also. I also use 30% brightness as there's no natural light hitting my TV. I have chrome windows open on it literally all day. Just don't be an idiot and keep full white windows at high brighness all day and it won't be a problem. I literally don't even think about it anymore.

Then how do you see anything? Even at 100% brightness the LG oleds aren't that bright. I see people online at like 50% brightness and you literally can see nothing in any dark scenes and everything is totally washed out.

@@drunkhusband6257 its plenty bright in my dark room. I even wear blue light protective glasses after a couple hours to protect my eyes from getting fatigued and itchy. I keep my OLED Light at around 75, my brightness at 50 and contrast at 78. Works really well for me plus I hate overly bright displays, they remind me of all the crappy lcds and leds I used to sell at Magnolia HT & Best Buy back in the day

@@plamenski5244 You must like looking at a cave then with brightness at 50. When I adjusted settings even with oled light at 100, since I didn't see any "brightness" setting that you are talking about, was still super dark.

Linus isn't really providing useful info. He negligently trashed his TV that he received for free and is now pretending like this happens to everybody for a clickbait video. I'm embarrassed for him.

@@GamerWordDotNet If a TV can't last more than a year or two it's trash...period

Yeah and Linus response was really … bad.

It would have been funnier if Linus had a wig on to emulate Steve's hair and said "Thanks Wendell". Then took it off. Play into it Linus.

I'm fairly new to the channel, can someone explain?

@@Wappie21 it's referring to steve from gamers nexus and the intel panel. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OnNZ3hCjIvs.html

@@bestgirlyagoo800 thanks!

Give it time

@@Jordanfiend361 8500 hours here, still perfectly fine. I don't even hide the windows task bar and I can't even see burn-in with the windows logo. If you set OLED Light low then the panel will last, period. Linus had his set way over 50 which is a big no-no, especially in applications where you expected static pixels. He should have known better tbh.

@MMMHOTCHEEZE to be fair, Mr. Linus can afford to burn 1000 oled screens. I'm still happy with my cx48. And keep the oled light at 36 to preserve it. But it will be replaced soon with the new 42inch model when released.

They really go out of their way to be terrible.

no fr, i thought i was a dumbass

Haha. Monitor settings are always terrible no matter what what brand

Its like a VCR, you just turn it on and deal with it how it comes out the box, much less painful that dealing with the OSD

@NimzyFPS I have an Asus monitor, and while the menus are better than my Samsung second monitor, it's still pretty shit.

You probably also not have any pot plants or teflon coated pans at home ;) In seriousness, if you have a second lcd screen, you can just use the lcd for menial tasks like browsing and use the oled for games or movies. The CX I use has a black desktop, no icons and the task bar is hidden. Over 1.5 years in it is still in great condition. I also only turn up the brightness on rare occasions. On this note I also set up the tv to not receive too much interference with sunlight or reflections, this helps a lot. But I understand that not everyone has the leeway to plan it that way.

I'd agree with you about using an OLED monitor, but worrying about projector life and lithium batteries? Dude, everything you use has a finite life. If you don't use it, it's just a waste. And often, you overestimate how fast things would degrade. It's better to use stuff normally, at least the first time around. Then if it dies too soon, you can replace it and recalibrate your usage pattern. Better than not enjoying anything ever.

@@mkports y'all think I'm joking. I do worry about wearing out my Teflon pans. This shit is debilitating. 😞

@@polycrystallinecandy man I'm not shittin you. I will get so obsessed over my phone and laptop battery health it's sometimes to even fun to use them.

You need to get a cast iron pan and a bottle of flax oil and/or walnut oil. Just get that pan hot in a fire or a self cleaning oven, sand with steel wool, coat as thinly as possible with flax or walnut oil, and let set for a few days or let sit in a hot but not too hot oven for an hour until oil polymerization give a teflon like surface. You'll find it inexpensive and rewarding because you're making your own beautiful finish to cook on.

What's your secret?

@@helloguy8934 Low brightness mostly, and most likely.

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Sick linus: allow me to introduce myself...

lol Those ads sound like they belong on a display unit display/tv of that model in the store not played on national/international tv. Do they still do this though, which is counterintuitive?

@@PinkAgaricus well of course they do lol

Heh, yeah, though while I probably wouldn't notice burn-in within 12 months as easily as Linus (or at least, I wouldn't care about it as much) I would expect a more expensive monitor to last as long or longer than my current LCDs, which have been chugging along just fine for the past 8-10 YEARS. Sounds like they could potentially end up being worse than said monitors after a fraction of that time.

@@specific_pseudonym 8-10 ? Pathetic i just read your comment on 5:4 LG flatron from April 2006 and only issue is one column of green sub pixels is always turned on, but i don't care that much since it's just support for my also LG flatron (but another model 16:9) from 2009. To be honest and fair i don't even remember from where/who i got this 5:4 so i can't tell milage and 16:9 one is from my brother and idk how much he used it a day.

@@crusaderanimation6967 lol, I had a monitor from 2007 with the same issue, but got rid of it several years ago because I got a few 27" 1440p monitors for free :)

No, content with black bars is likely to cause burn in, because the black bars dont wear the pixels but the movie does.

@@Ghost79263 so watch stuff with different aspects

@@toad3222 no

@@toad3222 : What !? It seems you don't have the good habit of thinking before talking (typing).

And bad as monitor. But everybody nows that. The purpose of this video is to dismiss previous videos driving people to use OLED as PC monitor (stupidity, obviously).

Explain

@@arshan6760 the line at the dmv never moves, so the ticker never has to update

Might not live in the USA or drive a vehicle.

@@ruekurei88 The funny part is that nor does Linus. It's called ICBC in BC.

Efficiency 100

It's fine for that stuff, the problem is they're using it with the OLED Light set too high. Wendell says 60 is "conservative" but 30 and below is where it should be at if you're looking to prevent significant burn-in. I've been using mine for an average of like 16-18 hours a day since December. Web browsing, gaming, watching movies, graphic design, etc, and I've not experienced any discernible burn-in when using it.

@@MMMHOTCHEEZE While true I would pass on it if I had to have the brightness that low. That said I love my C9 65" and would make the switch to a OLED monitor in a heartbeat if they just came in the correct size.

IMO OLED, in terms of staying clear of "burn-in", isn't great for practically anything that isn't watching movies. Or maybe relatively recent TV shows; Most networks have mostly done away with logo "burn-in" by transitioning to localized pixel or color shifts, slight and varying degree of opacity, or lens distortion effects. So it changes when the image "underneath" changes, meaning that area isn't significantly more likely to get "burn-in" than the rest of the display. There might still be some degree of "burn-in" if they botch it and set the opacity too high and use a static background/reverence color, but this is rare these days b/c the networks have understood the intended purpose well since the plasma days. But it's still something to be mindful if/when watching a lot of older shows and network content, as a fairly large part of it tend to be pulled from old network reels where the old static, brightly colored network logo is already applied in the recording. If watching a lot of news, the chyron can still be problematic though. OLED and its branches is still, inevitably, a compromise like any other tech. So is the emerging micro-led tech, although it's supposedly far longer lasting before "burn-in" is notable to the naked eye. Unless you're exclusively watching whole-display dynamic content, "burn-in" is just a fact of life with OLED. All we can really do is be aware and mindful of it, and make concious accommodations to limit the scope and bump up the timeframe, before noticable "damage" / degredation occurs. To many, this is an acceptable trade-off, vs the benefits. And especially for OLED _monitors,_ these still being stupidly expensive, the majority of its customer base have (relatively!) deep pockets for tech. They tend to replace hardware far more often than the average, and thusn are far more comfortable with "needing" to replace their monitor after 18-24-36 months. This customer segment is either making money off this stuff, or they're in the same boat if not the same people, who buy the Titans, 6900XTs, 3090s, 5950Xs or HEDT every 1-2 generation(s).

@@pr0xZen I have mine at 25 for daily work and it it plenty bright enough. 60 is uncomfortable

I literally have my oled brightness set to 0 to be honest, solid black desktop background, use dark mode where possible, and I place my windows fairly randomly around the desktop whilst avoiding snapping and so far I haven't noticed any burn in in over 8 months of very heavy usage

You work for the company?

same here, PC with RTX 3080 Ti but the C1 55" 4K TV, PS5 and Nintendo switch on the other side

It's a Simpsons reference

He is 30 it is expected

probably a new microphone equalization

My LG is burned to FUCK and they told me to fuck off. 3 months out of warranty. In the trash it went, NEVER again.

@@ross-carlson make sure you get the 5 year warranty with a reputable store. I got my c9 with a 5 year warranty and it got a central burn in patch after 1 year. The store (Curry's pc world) swapped the panel for a CX panel. So far it's been 1 more year and no problems. Buying a 48 c1 oled soon and it's tempting to get a 1 year warranty model for 939. But I'd rather just go back to Curry's for 999 and 5 years of assurance.

@@zantesh did they give you a brand new cx or just the panel replacement? Also wait for the 42" c2 that just got announced if you plan on using it for pc use

@@ross-carlson Yikes, sorry to hear that. I haven't bought a TV in 7 yrs (I see a lot has changed). I'll just get a Samsung. People are paying thousands of dollars for this?

@@bobbybuckley8702 replaced the panel

This will ruin your TV. The manual pixel refresher shortens the lifespan. Your OLED do it automaticly in standby

Omg i used to watch your what ifs so much

@Lance @Nicholas

It would be cool if linus collab with LatifiGOAT to make an ultimate racing sim 😮

Great idea from a great guy

What are you doing here? I literally just came from one of your videos. I thought i was still on your channel!

@Puji Astuti what

12 hrs a day! Like a full time job bro :)

update?

its a display so its on 24/7 displaying the same store promo images of course itll have burn in. Been using a c9 for daily use for 2 years now as pc monitor, absolutely still perfect

It's fanboyism. The same reason people still defend everything that Trump does.

Anyone with a samsung phone or tablet knows it's real. I have burn in all over the place in my S7, but it doesn't affect its main function because well...it's a phone, so it doesn't bother me at all. On the other hand, the idea of getting burn-in in my TV terrifies me because we paid a hefty price specifically to watch stuff on it

@@orti1283 Actually, no. I had the S1, S4, J3, S7, and now S10e. None of them had any burn in ever for me. Nothing. Zilch. I just tend to keep my brightness low, and find most people's brightness settings to be way, way, waaaay too bright for me. I also love dark modes and enjoy white on black text.

@@StraidGaming Your mileage may vary - I have a friend with burn in all over their screen. Either you are lucky or he is unlucky - but burn-in/out is very much an issue that affects OLED.

whatever the next monitor to pay the bills is will be the next AmAZiNg TEcH. im not neccassarily knocking him for it, it's just how capitalism works. :( cause if our man is running his oleds enough to get burn out i can only guess how insane his light bills are lmao

Felt that. I came away with the impression from those OLED videos that burn-in was not much of an issue anymore. A lot of less-savvy people will have felt that as well, and i am shocked to even think that until now, OLED is still going through first adopter hiccups as newer tech like microLED is emerging in the consumer space. Should’ve never recommended this for general consumer use w/o elaborating on the hassle AND the fact that LG OLED will last realistically only 1-2 yrs. Having to go through any of these hassles of managing burn-in is just an absolute deal-breaker, not everyone has the inclination or time, or even headspace to deal with that- im already anxious of a lot of stuff, i dont want to add my freaking monitor to the list of things I worry about. That OLED vid gets a retroactive dislike from me

using it for watching esport is bad enough to make burn-in/ghosting

Oh man, I cannot keep this for myself, these guys have no idea what they are doing. I am using OLEDs for years as PC-Monitors, at the moment a 65-inch LG CX and I never had burn in. You have to know how to use your tools. Let me give you a guide: 1. Do NOT use a desktop wallpaper with an OLED, it is totally wasting the lifetime of the pixels for nothing. 2. Change the position of your task bar every week! Bottom, Left, Top, Right and so on.... 3. Don't disable your automatic brightness limiter. (I actually love the ABL, because otherwise I get headache when working with documents for a long time.) 4. Activate Pixel-Shifting 5. 80% or even 60% ,,OLED-Light" like mentioned in this video is way too bright on the desktop. I don't know how they work with this, I get a freaking headache. - Just use 30% brightness for daily desktop-use, 10% brightness with artificial light around you and 0% when working in the dark. (I use mine 8 -16h a day for work with no burn in!) - Of course, if you are watching movies, or playing games, then you can go to a higher OLED-Light setting. (Never use the brightness setting, use OLED light!) - If you don't know the best picture settings, use the SDR Settings RTings measured to be the most accurate. - I actually only go above 50% OLED-light when watching something in HDR. More is unnecessary for SDR-Content and wasting your display for nothing. 6. Always use dark themes where possible. - Dark pixels do not wear out OLED pixels at all, so why not using dark themes on the desktop... That way I never had burn-in even when using my OLEDs for years. Yes, for me, OLED is the best looking display technology, but you have to know how to use it right. I am still disappointed when looking at every other PC-Monitor against my OLEDs. When doubling the brightness of an OLED you quarter the lifetime. So using it at 20% brightness will increase the lifetime of your TV by about 16 times against 80% OLED-Light! So brightness is very important with OLEDs as a monitor!

@@perschistence2651 No. That number of hoops to jump through can gtfo.

@@perschistence2651 Yeah, no thanks dude. I'd rather just use an LED screen instead of that insane routine. Not worth it.

@@Guru_1092 haha, then you cannot be a part of the OLED master race. (Just kidding^^) - No, I actually adapted to it. I don't even realize anymore that I am doing it. But everyone have to decide for himself.

Me too using a lg c3

I don't think this actually does anything. All it does is change the icon when you go to select inputs. How does this even work? Why would changing the icon to PC make it look different?

​@@omgwatit's a quirk of the CX, setting the icon to a "PC" disables a lot of the postprocessing that hurts PC use.

​@@BWTHeuSeDit is the other way around on my samsung tv, setting it to console fixes the image issues i have when it is in pc mode. Interesting

that's why Apple and Android have permanent navbar on OLED phones - planned obsolescence + all tvs and most network streaming has lots of logos, sports too, everything so that you must buy and buy and buy new stuff

@First name Last name I watch like a few movies a day. Within 8 years such TV would be unusable because of the severe uneven wear. This happens within 10,000 hours which makes lifetime for such users a fraction of lifetime claims by manufacturer (which is 100,000) which is just not ok. Would you pay like 2,000 bucks for 10,000 hours worth of TV watching?? 2,000:10,000=0,20 so you pay more than 20 cent per hour movie watching for such TV alone.

Exact reason I went with a QLED from samsung

Samsung marketing work very well here.

Except its not a monitor, its a tv. Thats the problem. Power users using products for something that they aren't intended for, and then batching when stuff breaks.

Yuck

i can't use beyond 20%, it seems like i'm burning my eyes without feeling it

Sounds like a lot of work just to make sure that the display doesn’t die

Searched that thing after I read your comment, how can you use it without feeling in a horror movie everyday? It's a very unsettling wallpaper.

How are icons a problem? I'm always using one thing or another in full screen, the desktop is rarely seen and only when I have to open something else. What am I missing?

@@Vilmar22 when the monitor is 48 inches you don't always use fullscreen so some icons might be constantly on display.

Black is the only thing that doesn’t damage the pixels, since they’re being damaged whenever they’re on.

It's a TV and these numbnuts decided to use it as a monitor then make a video complaining about burn in.

When you say you do everything in windowed mode, are you actually saying you just use part of the screen and the rest is just black/off? The part you use is not dimmer/less bright than the rest if you test with a solid color?