I wanna add something to this video about the problematics of being an undeveloped gifted adult. I'm in my early twenties, and since I was a little child I had been miss diagnosed with ADD. While time passed and my family problems and bullying grew I started having tics and suicidal thoughts as well as an in cressendo social anxiety that had had me locked and medicated in my room for almost three years. Two years ago I saw a youtube recomendation about HSP, and I knew that was it, from the bottom of my heart. My family supported me and I continued going to therapy, but one day I made the Big question, WHAT IF I've been gifted my whole Life!? My family was sceptical. ""Why do you wanna know? Does it change anything about you or your mental issues?" I was brave enough to give a hit to my therapist despite the opinion of my family. I took a personality test, because I have disociassion and depersonalization, and the results were terrifying. I'm at the verge of having an esquizotipical dissorder, and Borderline dissorder, because of my unmanaged giftedness, which is causing me A LOT of suffering now a days. With this I just wanna let people know that If they have ANY doubt about being gifted or not, PLEASE, seek help from a professional before it develops in a mental issue. (Multiple in my case) and don't let ANYONE decide what you should por should not do, no one knows better than your intuition what is going on on your mind. You have the right to know before it's too late.
Thanks for the encouragement aparico.. and the intution part.. I like it. Somehow my intution always knew what next step I should (roughly) take. I will keep choping away what is not true, so eventually, I will find (my) truth. Best regards!
It's interesting to see that you have the same way of talking and expressing yourself. It also makes it so much easier to keep focus and to listen to what you're saying and understanding the multiple layers you are trying to take into account while speaking. I have ADHD/ADD and am gifted. I mostly felt (and still feel to some degree) ashamed of it. It's not really something you can talk about with others without making them feel like you are better then them. Which we're not and we don't feel that way, quite the opposite actually. We seem to be much more aware of our own limitations, but it will probably still sound like bragging to most. It can be very frustrating. But knowing more about yourself and understanding the world around you is very helpful. Anyway, great video. Hope you will be doing more on this subject!
I don't know how much it's gonna help you but I was pretty much in the same position for a pretty long while and I tried to like fight it back (I had sympthoms for ADHD and some antisocial disorders, still gifted though) and right now I can say I have more or less surpassed it, it's a though fight though...
@@nadademais1234 3 things mate. 1st of all maybe he is not even english just like, so he does not have to know the meaning to those words. 2nd, and if he was english, what? Knowledge is nothing near equal to intelligence/iq. And as I see you lack both of them... One of the thing that makes high iq people struggle so much is the way people like you still thinks about the topic nowadays. And 3rd, instead of trying to insult him or humilliate him, you should try get in his shoes and not attacking just one mistake he made. Because you know what? Evem me have probably made more than one grammar mistake in this text, but we are not perfect, we are just humans.
This is an amazing explanation of Giftedness! I was tested as gifted 5 years ago and I was lucky to have a Gifted Learners Program at my middle school back then. Watching this video is like looking in a mirror❤️ I wish there was more content like this too support and education those who don’t have those kinds of opportunities😊👍
Well congrats on being gifted. The combination of intelligence and sensitivity makes for an interesting challenge, though it appears you are learning to own them.
Glad to have you back, Penelope! INFPs have interpersonal and intra-personal Intelligence. You're aware of the things that you feel (intuition) and try to figure out how that can translate to the people close to you, since we all go through the same emotions. We may not think the same way, but we do have the same emotions when put in certain circumstances. Your blessing is your curse. Do you ever wonder how you can feel your parents, or your boyfriend's, emotions before they even say anything? You can feel, or even absorb, their energy, good or bad, and make it your own... kinda like Rogue, from the X-men. This maybe the reason why going to class is a challenge because you can absorb the energy of a classroom. When the energy is good, you can do great and amazing things, but if its negative energy, it can be draining and exhausting, which can lead to depression. I understand your gift. You're a very talented and gifted individual. Strengthen your powers by being your true genuine self, express yourself through your art, and learn the importance of boundaries and Sunlight. I wish you all the best this life has to offer, Penelope! You know we Love You! You are blessed. 💖
I love the way you talk.I think I'm intellectually gifted too, although I never took an iq test.I can understand people's emotions and actions but usually they can't understand mine.They often tell me their problems like I'm their psychologist.It's pretty lonely, sometimes depressing and stressing and most times not really fun but it does feel nice to be good at many things and when curiosity and interest combine, productivity can skyrocket.Similar amounts of work is needed to actually succeed but when I'm in the zone I just know I passed the test, gave good advice, exceeded most others in the particular activity we are engaged in.All that aside, I see the gaps in my knowledge and always think I'm not really smart.The defining characteristics of my thinking process is abstract reasoning, hyperanalyzing, connecting information easily and identifying patterns of behaviour.It's like I'm reading something, instantly connecting images to words or reading emotions but explaining them with logical stages of development or linking the behaviors I see with examples or moments across time regarding other people, statements, bits of knowledge, making somewhat of a conclusion and leaving the door open for further specification of what transpires in front of me.
I have always felt like there was a never ending stream of information that was flowing at lightning speed, but it was never a burden, actually it was quite pleasant. I always new something was different and people have always told me I was different from every walk of life. I found out I was intellectually gifted not to long ago which explained why I have always been scary good at understanding extremely complex abstract thoughts and concepts that many people have a hard time understanding. I feel sorry for my parent because they were absolutely not equipment to deal with me.
Hello again :) I commented on your ADHD video and now I'm here on this one. As I said there, I have ADHD and am also gifted. I think that in individuals such as myself being gifted is a result, in part, of actually having ADHD. ADHD brains naturally feel emotions more intensely and can also in general have a heightened sense of perception. This also makes us empathetic and have a strong sense of justice and fairness. ADHD also makes us more creative, and with a million ideas going on, we're more entrepreneurial. All these traits are also associated with being gifted.
Good to see you back. I was also gifted my whole life. I was diagnosed with adult ADHD at 21. My whole life I struggled a lot with low self-esteem, bullying, and just being myself. Now, at 25, I'm growing back into myself and a lot of that is thanks to the beauty of social media and open access to connecting with people who I relate to. You are one of those people, so I'd just like you to know how significant you might be for some people out there. I look forward to more videos from you. My overactive brain needs them :P
Good video, you're like me lol. I was diagnosed with ADD and I knew I was somewhat smarter, but I didn't realize how much until a few days ago I just found my old test scores from standardized tests and I scored in the top 1-2% from 3rd grade grade up to sophomore year. I haven't tested IQ but I'm assuming it's somewhere in a similar percentage. It's helping me a lot to understand myself more and I also felt like my needs weren't met growing up. I ended up pursuing intellectual pursuits on my own after high school and doing my real learning and attempting to quench that need for knowledge and information. I've also always had problems with depression, anxiety, etc. It just all makes more sense now, about the way I've always felt around people, always over analyzing, etc.
I'm definitely gonna read a couple of those books, the one about Van Gogh will be good because I feel like I'm the depressed crazy artist. I'm very good at music especially along with anything creative
My dear niece, as President of the Association for Bright Children (ABC) Wellington County for 10 years, and as a teacher for 35 years, I studied GIFTEDNESS in depth... MY 2 sons were also gifted and that is why I got into this! I like your perceptions and how you express your experiences! There are many kinds of intelligences, of course! 😘
I just want to say its amazing to see someone this young that figured out something I only understood today 30 + year old. Also glad you went the psychology route. Its very promising field that needs lot of new knowledge, and what better way to push this new field forward than with gifted.
I see your way to behave, totally gifted way, indeed I kinda act like that too It is indeed very strange to talk about giftedness, and when we do it feels always that it lead nowhere, like I'm an alien and feels embarrassing Thanks for sharing
I feel as though part of your endeavor into psychology will be to develop more sensitive tools to further the distinction between ADHD and Giftedness. Could be a great thesis topic. Thank you for an eloquent explanation of giftedness. The more I dive into the topic, the more I identify with other like minded individuals. Good luck!
Hi, Penelope! I would love a video of relationships for highly gifted. I wonder how you manage romantic relationships, difficulties, needs, intellectual satisfaction etc. I can't seem to find a video that satisfies my questions about relationships for highly intelligent. It would be immensely appreciated!! Have a lovely 2021!!
God, you are lovely on all levels of which a human being can be lovely! The aesthetics of the room, the Buddha ( Auuuum ) with that beautiful Aloe Vera plant ( love them ) and the live fire place going on.. and that beautiful clothing, hair, smile, insight and intelligence.. What can I say, yeah you are gifted haha! :)
I just stumbled upon this video because I was looking at adhd symptoms and relate on such a deep level. I am not a gifted individual or anything, but when u described not having your needs met I just started smiling. I also often asked a lot of questions and loved taking topics apart but I was usually just called annoying, shut down or told I wasn't really enjoying it if I was over analysing stuff. Its so frustrating when there are so few people who I can really talk deeply about the stuff I am passionate about without being judged or silenced. I am also extremely sensitive, on a physical level that is, and it is always disregarded as me being dramatic and that sucks. This video is relaxing because your voice is not too high or low or anything for me. Thanks for making the video and showing so many sources, it was interesting!
I'm so happy that you uploaded something. I'm skeptical about IQ test like do an IQ test effectively measures all forms of intelligence in a person. I think it's also linked with personality types. An Intp or Istp might score very high compared to an INFP (btw I don't think you're an INFP) or an ISFP in IQ tests but does that mean they are less intelligent in all forms of intelligence? the definition of intelligence is the ability to acquire and apply knowledge. And the definition of knowledge is a practical understanding of something. So, someone who is a high IQ holder may fail at acquiring or applying knowledge in some other domain so should we call him less intelligent?
People read too much into IQ or expect too much from it. IQ is a statistical tool, a benchmark. It doesn't try to tell you anything specific about a person, simply their expected capabilities in a variety of fields compared to the wider public. Real IQ tests are carefully crafted/researched (psychological testing is an entire field of its own in psychology) to achieve standardization. If you leave it at that, it is well established and accepted; having been (and still being) scrutinized heavily, probed and prodded, all the while still confirming scientific soundness. It's a test that passes the scientific method. If you try to take the meaning of IQ further than that, it can fall apart: savants for example usually score comparatively low on general IQ tests, and yet they have some exceptional abilities. But that isn't a problem of the IQ test - it's an issue of taking the concept of IQ out of the scope that it is meant to work in. I would be careful to conflate personality and IQ too much. It's not a personality test. It's deliberately impersonal. Try not to explain somebody's personality based on their IQ or vice versa. Suddenly you are comparing apples and oranges. Maybe you shouldn't think of IQ in the terms of "less" and "more" (as it is, sadly, generally used) - think of it as measure of "differentness" (a bit like MBTI); as a measure of the distance from the norm. That way the idea is less confining and intimidating. The further you are from the norm, the more attention you should give to your cognition... that's it, nothing more, nothing less.
1. Yes, IQ measures "intelligence", or general intelligence (g) and is scientifically valid and reliable and supported by 100+ years of research. 2. The Myers Briggs, unlike the Big Five, is not a scientifically valid or reliable concept.
@@alessiomarin1218 Yes ,and to add to that, it is not that an INTP would score more than an INFP in an IQ test ,but it happens to be that many of the high IQ people associate with the INTP personality profile ,because having higher intelligence associates with people liking logical matters ,being more curious and high in openness , often more introverted etc. So it's not a reason to question the validity of the IQ test nor the intelligence OR/Hence IQ of a non INTP. and also to note on the original comment ,your definition of intelligence is problematic that is why ,it's more complicated .
I.Q. is more like torque in an engine, it's the potential energy that can be generated by that engine. Power is the actual real life power that is applied and can be measured. This is rough ball park guide, not an exact science but it helps some people to understand. I.Q. is measurement of potential intelligence, knowledge is applied power or actual intelligence.
Almost all IQ tests are testing knowledge. which word in brackets is most similar to UP, (down,LEFT,Right) ? The question assumes you know what those words mean before any intelligence takes over to pick the most similar (or at least the most similar to the person writing the test). Now make the words 'harder'. Are you testing IQ or knowledge?
Hey! Just found out I am a gifted adult yesterday, thought I had ADHD and went through neuropsychological testing, and I'm really glad I found your channel :)
My 3rd grade teacher identified me as gifted after doing standardized testing, although I'm unsure if it was my test results or the fact she saw something in my learning capabilities that prompted this identification. But after having another interview/test with a psychologist on a later day I wasn't admitted into the gifted program. Whatever that latter fact means I'm unsure, i think i possibly am a 2E learner, but as I'm a bit older than when that term (Twice exceptional) went mainstream I think I went under the radar. This whole reasoning could just be me blowing smoke, but some of my family the generation prior to mine were gifted and all the puzzle pieces seem to fit in my mind that I actually am gifted. I can't completely accept this fact though because of the renege by the education system. It hurts not being 100% sure of this fact though, and being full of doubt about my intellectual capabilities. I get the feeling alot of this doubt is a disconnect between how i explain my thoughts to people (non linearly, divergently instead of convergently), and what said people perceive me saying (a jumbled mess......). This is just my dialogue with people though, I seem to do a good job of expressing my thoughts through text. Anyways, I feel a strong disconnect between my thoughts and feelings and the world I live in, and this has been plaguing me since elementary school. It's hard to remember everything about a time so far back, but I've been thinking about the pointlessness of trying in school and life since around that time in third grade, when school started to be geared more towards homework and studying.
As a gifted teenager I’m really happy there are people out there making videos about us, we are overshadowed and in this year finally almost everyone knows about neurodiversity, but not about us! We’re neurodivergent too, we also need visibility!!!!
Been thinking a lot about the cookie cutter-ness to society and how everyone is expected to conform to certain standards... I would have loved to have known earlier who I am and how my brain works, because Life is quite difficult for me, and surviving is not living... Mostly it's manifested itself through an urge for creative expression... lol thanks for your videos... It helps knowing there are others out there like me... We'll figure it out lol
Oh hai! Fellow gifted here. Hadn't finished reading my books yet and am glad to have your summary and interpretation! The struggle to accept it and talk about it is real. It has been about a year for me now. Folks do like when you lead with that it is a neurodivergence and special needs situation.
I didn't even know I was subscribed to your channel, I trusted myself and watched it anyway. I was right, you have a beautiful mind. I like smart people and INFPs so it's difficult not to fall in love with you. lol
Omg you are so so so quite, im a gifted me to, and the next year i start to study psychology so i already study by myself psychology it's been 5 years already that i study has autodidact, im from Italy. Ps. I discover myself being a gifted at first it was hard to accept but in one year i make some more research and now im confident with this new me, it was the help of my therapist to bring me to this discover, now im more organized with my life i understand much better what i want and why im so weird and different and that's amazing. Ps. Try Alice miller and the dramma of a gifted child or something like that it's about the gifted people who struggle by don't know who they are and the hard life the have in the childhood period.
Wow, that video... really hit close to home. Thanks you so much for sharing your opinion and your experiences! And i also share your opinions for a lot of points, and it really is nice to hear them somewhere else than my head ahaha Je me pose de nombreuses questions sur la douance et sur moi depuis des années, et je n’ai jamais osé en parlé à quiconque ou même osé sauter le pas afin de passer un test psychométrique (WAIS) pour les mêmes raisons que tu a évoqué: la peur de paraitre narcissique, l’utilité dans le fait de savoir, etc... Mais ta video m’as convaincu un peu plus qu’il est probablement temps pour moi de sauter ce pas, et d’accepter le résultat, tel qu’ils soit. Désolé pour ce pavé, mais sache que ta vidéo m’as fait beaucoup de bien. Aussi, jaime beaucoup ta façon de parler! I wish you too a lot of love and happiness! Bye!
Such a nice description of the social loneliness, in spite of being surrounded by people! I'm curious: Do you feel more connected now that you have Mensa members to socialize with?
General intelligence is based on the three domains, crystallized intelligence, fluid intelligence, lastly and what I think is the third domain --- personality. The third domain is based on metrics like conscientiousness, intellectual curiosity which I think is open mindedness, I'm not sure if in the same or just correlated. Couple of other metrics would be like extroverted, and altruism.
good observation! but i think it is a creative approach to say that "feeling guilty" isnt the right word, i also thought we were feeling guilty about our high intellectual capacity but, i think that expression is created by people with less intellectual capacity, or by people that didnt put much effort in to describing what they saw, ok, it is useful to describe ... something that is going on here. but it does not help us Highly gifted to move on i think. o have observed that many expressions describing observations of phenomenons are oversimplifying what they are meant to describe, and i think it is because the language is the majorities language, it takes the rout of leas resistance much too often, and this leads, among other things to that we sometimes we get stuck in the words, when the words wasn't meant to be taken literary or even very seriously when the expression was created in the beginning. and as a result of that we get stuck in our development. i think we can dissect the "guilt feeling" further so that it then becomes a few or probably many things, things that are something totally different, just like when one substance is broken down in to its basic components the components are totally different from the substance they were a part of, then we can look at those parts and in the step after that we can build it in to a completely new description of what is happening here in moments of extra clarity i have seen pretty clearly what these things are or might be,, but in order, shape and form they present themselves as really unconventional if i were to describe them so it would take a lot of time to make a good description of it, not the plave for it here, unless the sitation change but i think one component is that its not about guilt or shame i think its lack of experience, i see when i compare that when i enter ground where I am very inexperienced suddenly after frequenting areas where i have a lot of experience, and i do the switch so that its visible fro anyone in front of a group of people, it feels the same no matter what area of inexperience i enter, and i observe the same "feeling" or "event" inside when im about to display my fuller intellectual capacity in full view many of us have not been given the opportunity to practice entering our highly intelligent arena so that it becomes obvious for others, there is a lot of different kinds of training that can be exercised here, it is a complex thing and at the same time, we must manage, various situations where people might become upset or, let's generalize by saying, misunderstand, different things so it is it a kind of meta inexperience situation where we are inexperienced inside of another layer of inexperience? could it maybe be a good summary of it?
@@torrace12 Hi and yes, I agree with you 100%. The not being given the opportunity to practice, as you put it, certainly hits home. Its more 'made to ' feel guilty by those who know you are gifted and frustration with those who look at your wealth,CV etc and therefore don't spot our giftedness and close the door to another opportunity to practice. Telling that group is certainly a bad idea. You can be taller or smaller than someone but don't ever let them know, you know you are more intelligent than they want you to be =p I've only recently started looking at inattentive ADD/EFD with overexcitabilities as my 'block' on dream chasing, or focusing on study. I knew I was gifted in the text book sense (IQ) but never had it explained and certainly wasn't aware it came with its own traits; that if not known or understood would negatively affect us. The 40+ years since my first IQ test have only ever been "you're wasting your're life you had so much potential.." type of help from family thus the feeling of guilt for not being able to maintain a direction. Within 3-4 weeks of having had the possibility of hidden traits suggested I certainly feel far less conflict on who I am vs who i 'was supposed to be'. The frustration's still there, especially when an ADHD assessment is refused as, in the words of gov.uk "You're not a threat to yourself or others and should be able to fix it yourself if you have such a high IQ" TBH they are probably right and I'm sure I can fix myself but then walks in my intellectual overexcitability with its thousand questions.
@@davehale7576 i very much recognize the Shitty neat doings the surrounding people aim at you, it , when added up over time becomes a session worthy to call torture, but none ever gets sentenced to prison for torturing people " a little at the time" for decades it also makes me think about something that i have thought about many many times, that i think you also wrote about - that is , that since i am outside of the mindset of the majority (picture is more complicated than this but ill skip the other parts) so i see how dysfunctional the big group in society that is very similar is but they throw "power-tools" at me when i point it out, rather then practicing showing good character which taught me that social structures is about who has the most power. this view is nothing about being cynical but is built on so much more scrutiny of self-perspective then what is needed its built on the experiences of people using their dominating position to steamroll me or others in different ways ( wonder if being cynical isnt another pseudo word that the majority use, maybe cynicism is built on evidence that is just as or more objective as a positive view of life) and the "faster" society gets, the less people hear about being slow to judge and get brought up to tolerate and still befriend people that does not quickly provide them a rewarding social trait, and that when people annoy them they should not act upon their anger by doing mean things etc, the more the society is ruled by domination. society is going in the wrong direction in this way i also , as i listen to the video and her the girl in it talk about her going to therapy, remember that it is obvious, at last to the major part, that society sends the minority to therapy, not because they need it more, but because people drew the conclusion that it is easier to practically manage to send the outsiders to therapy then to send everyone else this might be a productive solution in part, but then it is important that the therapy is centered around "you are here to learn how to win over people that try to hurt you, by learning about their dysfunctional traits" as much as it really is about that, otherwise new guilt complexes probably appear, (why am i here when its everyone else that is at fault is often a defendable question in this situation) i think this too relates to your reply in some way, i hope i interpreted what you wrote the right way i also really feel released after just watching a few videos on youtube about being gifted, i am also watching videos about having "spiritual traits"or being "spiritually gifted" in different ways, there are some part of what is talked about in them that also make me land on the right place i think that spiritualism is much connected to level of intelligence, when being intelligent spirituality and physical evidence more often go hand in hand then it does for near norm-located minds the "You're not a threat to yourself or others and should be able to fix it yourself if you have such a high IQ" is a great example of a show of mindset that just makes me want to take the persons hand and say " i have so much to teach you, and its going to take years for you to grasp all the ways you are acting and thinking in the wrong way simultaneously right now" but,,ye you know... one little self-criticism is in place in the end? i think we gifted people need to practice a bit more of the trait that people used to have more of, the one where we say,,,it is not a guarantee that anyone will be able to use their gifts in the best way possible or even close to that there is no moneyback guarantee on life, we should focus more on making the world better as much as is possible where we are at right now or something similar to that finally, one thing that i have discovered is that, sometimes i just have to decide that this is how things are and not listen so much to what i feel about a situation, i mean that even if i was sure something was "my fault" i decided with my minbd that it was not my fault at all and just went for it. i tried that and then i discovered that being "bitchy" a little bit like the way the most popular kids were in schol is something that works very well against people that are beginning to push me too much in to a corner. i discovered that if i tried to discuss with them as ialways did up till then it could take months to make the m maybe understand my perspective, and ialways ended up sacrificing too much to reach common ground but if i was coming down like an eagle on them (with words and thoughts) they actually revealed that under a bit of pressure couldnt help showing that they already understand, that it was only a matter of w a n t i n g to understand and then i didnt have to carry their responsibility for them any more. we who have heard a lot of things that give us guilt often feel guilty and think it must be true just because we feel it, but feelings are potentially as deceptive as thoughts good artists borrow - great artists steal, thats something i heard a long time ago and i used that when i behaved like "the most popular kids" in school, and then it worked. i tried to explain this further many times, and it is interesting to try and explain it but you understand what it means only by the above
@@torrace12 I wish you lived next door :) We think outside the box! That's not saying we are right. We spend all day everyday walking around the box, up close or far away as we wander around, letting our minds pick and poke at it; not trying to discover what it is or finding a way in but to find a way to let everyone else out. When we see strange shadows reflected onto it we say 'hey look at...' and most the world reply in a "Thats just the way it is...". Its so hard to explain how the shadow aren't just there and it's the things making the shadows you're actually talking about. Maybe it's because most people are inside the box and really can't see the shadows. Or the dunning kruger effect kicks in and they refuse to consider their knowledge, built up over years and years of study and training might have holes in it. We're told we need therapy to 'open our minds' and allow growth so we see and experience things in the 'right way' Sadly, i believe we do need therapy :( not so we can see the world the 'right way' but to accept others cant or wont look. Sat face to face, I could debate this topic for 3 days straight if given opposings mind able to bend my line of sight. Strangely we would probably not be disagreeing but only spending the time trying to find the words to explain how a nuance, an extra layer to the complexity fits in. Spirituality! I was an atheist at heart. But this last few weeks I've seriously started to question my beliefs. Not that I believe there is a divine being sat sipping tea watching us all from afar. But in the sense my giftedness came packed with its own suite of traits; those 'given' to me on purpose to force me to understand. That 'someone' doesn't just want us to take our high learning potential and use it to race to be 'successful' with fame and fortune. Our struggles placed deliberately in the way to make us stop and question everything. I want to 'do' not 'get' the rewards giftedness can offer us. I'm off for now as I need to email my 'what you want to see not what I am' er I mean CV to some prospective employees.
I think what you're trying to say is that some people have different needs which makes them part of a minority that's what makes them special. Knowing what you feel and why is important because emotion is the key to willpower. I feel like saying "being gifted" can put people in a fixed mindset. Since being in a minority doesn't mean everything just comes your way or your niche of operation makes you superior which you already confirmed (not more than others) but many don't realize this. Skills must by developed by practising no matter how intelligent a person can be. That goes for visualization, imagination and much more. I'm also an analyser and have always been this way. But like they say in class. "Stop daydreaming" in other words "Stop using your imagination!" They have different goals that's why school can feel so weird. School thought me it's not an environment for learning but a place to see how many grates you can collect. Almost like collecting points in a videogame. So many people find out later they can use their brain better setting up their own goals. Anyways I can really relate to your story and dropped you a follow
I wanted to become a psychologist aswell from a young age, atm i am learning it but its still a possibility, but in these crazy times im not focused on that. Also yes you are very gifted, you will succeed no doubt.
Also just saying that being gifted is the ability to explain things etc, but never get prideful because even if you are smarter, it dosent mean youre right, the world is too complex to think you are right.
Thank for sharing. I can relate about high school. Being 'popular' was kind of this game you had to play, but it was more about learning the rules and doing the necessary steps rather than making real connections. Although I was lucky enough to have a couple genuine friends...emphasis on 'a couple' lol, as in 2. Also - don't feel shame about it if you can help it. You keep it to yourself because it becomes a tactical decision, so that people won't judge you. Or truly so that they don't fear you are judging them! Either way, you're way ahead of the game compared to me at your age so I'm very optimistic for you!
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Thanks Penelope, great video, very recognizable. I found out that I'm gifted 6 months ago. Last week when I tried to explain to a close friend what giftedness is I struggled a lot even though I have been reading ferociously about the topic in the past few months. Haha in the end I brought out a book (Living with intensity by Susan Daniels, can highly recommend) and started reading from it and naming all the overexcitabilities that I have. Your explanation is way more eloquent!
08:19 Its like hearing myself &totally agree than all of a sudden its a "construct". Thank you so much for this continent. Giftedness is indeed not a guarantee for succes or "luck", the environment needs to be a fit too to develop your potential even further. Lets say if you are gifted and brought up in a poor environment than unfortunately you have less chances to make up something out of your potention than someone who was raised in a household with much more opportunities. Further along the high IQ there are many challenges which come also into play, due to the high sensitivity. This is why Gifted children or adults at times get misdiagnosed. So giftedness, unlike what is at times assume it to be, is definately not a "neurotypical" person+ High IQ. Its just differently wired.
Good luck on your psychology journey. Many of the things you talked about sounded very familiar. I took the psychology route as well, and now have a master's degree, but couldn't be interested in working in the field because I am too aware of all the flaws in psychological science. I hope you will find your place in that world though. Good luck.
Exciting! I've always figured you'd be studying psychology and now you're actually doing it. I feel so glad for you! Looking forward to your next videos of discovery. PS: is that a bengal cat? (insert an emoji with hearts for eyes because I don't know how to emoji on yt)
I am in the 98% too, with ADHD. I'm glad I'm not the only one, but my EQ is even much better. 99.9%. Yes, I'm proud too, but my intellegences are intrapersonal, intropersonal and music rather than intellectual. But I'm an extrovert, ENFP MBTI, and I think that plays a huge part of it. Great video. Hahaha, you sound like me too. I'll check out the recommended books, especially the one on sensitive people like myself.
Très intéressant! Je me reconnais beaucoup dans ce que tu dit et je vais prendre en note les suggestions de livre! (J’ai reconnu l’accent dans le titre du livre, qui est aussi le mien ;)
You should go to Amazon Associates, get an affiliate URL, and then put the affiliate links of those books underneath this video to get a small fraction of the sales when you're recommending stuff. You deserve a cut when you're doing the marketing for these books. This is a good video. I totally understand. You can't tell people that you're gifted because then they think you're bragging about being smarter than they are (even when it's true and it doesn't mean you're a better person). Many people are so insecure that they can't take it. It's funny that you say that you don't like it when people aren't real. I can't stand phonies. Gifted people like truth, and they see through a facade or mask pretty quickly, and then it's even more annoying if you point it out and nobody else sees it, and then they call you negative or a hater, but all you're claiming is that some people are honest and sincere and others are pretentious hypocrites. But nobody wants to hear that.
Intelligence and the psychometrics associated with it is the single most researched subject in psychology. Interestingly, the research contradicts a lot of clinicians books like Siaud-Faccin's (especially the qualitative nature of high intelligence or the presumed associations like hyperemotionality etc.). For people interested in the subject, I recommend research focused books which are based on empirical evidence. If you read French, I recommend "Psychologie du haut potentiel" By Nicolas Gauvrit and Nathalie Clobert. Clears a lot of misconceptions and integrates most ideas on the subject.
If you want to know wether your add is a really add or a big part of your giftedness I recommend watching -addressing five annoying characteristics of gifted people-On RU-vid.Hope it helps
Thank you very much for sharing with us your history, it really inspired me and helped me too!!! I don't know if I'm a gifted person but I really feel like you... I'm not sure if taking an IQ test...
Hi,I am recently diagnosed as gifted, now I got stuck on quite a lot...1.I am stuck on the part where high sensitivity...even fainted a lot etc and I am therefor "hooked" on benzodiazepines and it has always been a way to hide the giftedness really but I can not continue to take that as we all know, are you prescribed anything?if so what does it do? 2.is your heartrate also "different "?mine beats too fast... 3.what would happen with an IQ if i would go to school as an early dropout..? Ty for sharing this video...a lost gifted one
I have been wondering the same thing. Am 32 now and became aware of the term 'gifted' only two years ago. I have studied psychology and myself for many years and continually thought that I had ADHD without the hyperactivity. I am certain my mother has ADHD and is on the spectrum, my father is certainly gifted but also suffers from psychosis. I am in between. I am not like my father, or my mother. My skills and abilities were discouraged by both parents and the education department, sadly the first 20 years of my life really hindered my abilities. My strengths are learning quickly, a large interest in learning, especially engineering, a great visual imagination and being able to see and solve problems in my mind eg; design and build a house in my mind and see it all as though I was in a 3d animation. My weaknesses are not understanding dishonesty, greed, theft, vandalism, littering, peoples inability to not understand basic concepts. These really do hinder me. Although I think dishonesty etc are wrong, society does not and looks down on me for calling them out. I also find dating and women difficult as the average person is not mentally stimulating to me. Even the most physically gorgeous woman is not attractive without a beautiful mind. Thanks for the video, best of luck with the journey of life.
The first two books at the beginning seem interesting. Wish you could show them a bit more clearly and maybe touch upon the contents a little bit more. You seem to have fear of people not understanding French and therefore seem to avoid showing and talking about the book ‘Trop intelligent………..I think French, being one of the major languages, can be understood by some of your audience, me included. I would love to read this book actually.
Yes. In fact people who are diagnosed as Autistic have been shown to have quite the most impressive of intellectual gifts. Although it seems because of Autistic challenges, they also seems to be the hardest to express.
@@mushu8880 thank you for answering! I had been diagnosed as autistic by a psychiatrist almost 2 years ago, but then I had a neuropsychological assessment and found out I’m gifted too. I don’t think I believe in the IQ test though, it feels weird to me, especially after taking it
@@watchingthebees Of course! And yes the IQ test is ridiculously outdated. It has nothing to do with your intelligence so it’s ok. It’s just something the Mensa needs to stay operative. True intellect shines through in your daily life, not some superficial scoring system😊
I understand your reluctance to tell others about your intellectual giftedness. Mensa in particular irritates people. It’s ironic that people generally accept the idea that a particular individual is not competent to stand trial, for example, based on a low I.Q. score but many of those people object to the use of I.Q. for identifying giftedness. Don’t ask me how I know. 😉
merci ... i am 45 and just been able to put a word on it. Thank you. Ma vie has been exceptionnal but I had been sruggling to figure out why .... i did 135 IQ but still shy of espressing it... i feel like I understand people even before they speak.... and yes i am doing great ...but i like to listen to this because now I understand more ...always understand more ; >
Hey! No need for a study; every biological trait is determined by genes i.e., nature. It's also determined by the environement i.e., nurture, and the interaction between the two !
Salut, J'ai bien aimé "Trop intelligent pour être heureux" moi-aussi. J'ai un autre livre à te suggérer qui est plus récent et qui pousse l'analyse plus loin à mon sens : "Les 'surdoués' et les autres ; Penser l'écart" de Carlos Tinoco, Sandrine Gianola et Philippe Blasco.
Congrats on starting your path down the psychology road. I'm here with you. I feel like I've always known I loved helping people and also Psychology, I was just afraid to commit. Good luck on your Journey!
Hi, I would like the opportunity to discuss with you what it is like to be a gifted adult ? I live in the suburban wilderness of Adelaide South Australia. Very hard to meet anyone. Maybe I should attend a Mensa meeting here ? ( honestly, never ever considered going to see those guys) But all I really have at this moment is the occasional Zoom meeting with Helen from Australia Gifted Adult Support.
It is oddly recognizable, the shame as well, and even the fact that I'm not good at maths - yet I am good at seeing patterns and connecting pieces and seeing future problems and coming up with extensive solution to deal with those. I'm also a musician, that doesn't write typical love songs, but writes songs about depression, the state of the world, politics, relations, etc... - and a musician that doesn't like to "stick" to one style. I don't know if I am gifted, because all these IQ tests have a lot of maths, and I really can't do that. I can't calculate easily. What I do find is that I didn't have to study a lot through life, and I'm hyper focused on certain topics. I see flaws and potential problems from miles away and try to guard against them when writing software or making software solutions. Yet the walls are high, I never knew what could be going on, maybe I have parts of this, maybe not, I have no idea. Most therapists have never raised this topic, they only say "let it go", "let your frustrations go", "try to relax", "don't overthink"... But that is who I am. I shouldn't change? This is an incoherent rant, just to say that, thanks for making the video. Even though I might not be in the 2% - I reccognise a lot, and I know maybe a bit more now how I should use it as a strength... I hoped I discovered things like this sooner, so keep making videos about it, so that people know about this. We can only learn more from each other. Take care
This is me too. I struggle with mental math so the IQ tests I have average scores, but the way I think is rapid, layered, and richly connected with competing possibilities and parallel roads. I don't know if that is gifted, but it is exhausting. I am autistic and you could be too.
@@amys0482 it is often exhausting indeed, as usually I tend to explain things concise and evidence based; yet in meetings people try to get in on things that don't matter (yet) or go off on speculation instead of testing their hypothesis. I feel those are such a waste of time in offices but all over the world. Critical thinking is key, and somehow that isn't appreciated or lost. I'm not perfect, I make so much mistakes - but at least I try to be aware of that and hence why I will only make statements or act upon it until I have that evidence or research done, instead of as said speculation. That being said, I can relate to the fact that I do see outcomes quickly based on previous evidence and rapidly see where testing needs to be done, or procedure needs to be put in place or adapted/removed... Autistic, maybe, some call it stubborn. I haven't been tested, but I do feel a lot of frustration often when work time is wasted on things mentioned above; for example... Because I also value time "off" (not for me per se, but for all others too). How did you get your diagnosis, if I may ask? I struggle asking for it - and I don't know if it would help. Because I kind of like the way I work and do stuff. But I also recognize I might rub the wrong way at some people. Apologies for the English, not my main lang.
Iteresting video. Thanks for sharing. I can identify with what you said. What would be your advise to find out if someone is gifted? The trational IQ test? Which one? Thank you.
hi, it's very cool to find people who are truly gifted. I want to know gifted people's option on psychedelics because it's interesting and a current trend on the psychology... expecting a Reply.
i want to contribute with something that i think is useful for people of our situation(im saying "i think" a lot below but its on purpose, because i dont want to just say "it is" yet) i think its creative approach to say that "feeling guilty" about showing our intellectual capacity, our logical capacity our deductive, holmian thinking capacity etc isnt the right word, i also thought we were feeling guilty about our high intellectual capacity but, i think that expression is created by people with less intellectual capacity, or by people that didnt put much effort in to describing what they saw, ok, it is useful to describe ... something that is going on here. but it does not help us Highly gifted to move on i think. i have observed that many expressions describing observations of phenomenons are oversimplifying what they are meant to describe, and i think it is because the language is the majorities language, it takes the rout of leas resistance much too often, and this leads, among other things to that we sometimes we get stuck in the words, when the words wasn't meant to be taken literary or even very seriously when the expression was created in the beginning. and as a result of that we get stuck in our development. i think we can dissect the "guilt feeling" further so that it then becomes a few or probably many things, things that are something totally different, just like when one substance is broken down in to its basic components the components are totally different from the substance they were a part of, then we can look at those parts and in the step after that we can build it in to a completely new description of what is happening here in moments of extra clarity i have seen pretty clearly what these things are or might be,, but in order, shape and form they present themselves as really unconventional if i were to describe them so it would take a lot of time to make a good description of it, not the plave for it here, unless the sitation change but i think one component is that its not about guilt or shame i think its lack of experience, i see when i compare that when i enter ground where I am very inexperienced suddenly after frequenting areas where i have a lot of experience, and i do the switch so that its visible fro anyone in front of a group of people, it feels the same no matter what area of inexperience i enter, and i observe the same "feeling" or "event" inside when im about to display my fuller intellectual capacity in full view many of us have not been given the opportunity to practice entering our highly intelligent arena so that it becomes obvious for others, there is a lot of different kinds of training that can be exercised here, it is a complex thing and at the same time, we must manage, various situations where people might become upset or, let's generalize by saying, misunderstand, different things so it is it a kind of meta inexperience situation where we are inexperienced inside of another layer of inexperience? could it maybe be a good summary of it?
I've never taken an official IQ test. Did take one of the culture fair free online ones which is supposedly close to the Mensa test and it put me in the gifted range (barely). But I've always been different. Think there is something to be said about the false mystique of 130+ high IQ and giftedness, if you don't have it then you don't want it...no really, you don't. It robs you of a normal childhood and adolescence. It causes you to become bored easily and have trouble communicating even in adulthood. You see the absurdity of the games people play and occasionally they outright repulse you. You have to put up with constant anxiety, strong emotions over trivial things. Often lots of ADHD or ASD symptoms, maybe enough to earn a diagnosis for one of these or maybe not. But either way you always feel different, you know you're not neurotypical and there's nothing you can do but actively suppress your differences and force yourself to conform.
We are all gifted in very specific ways and each one of us is 100% unique, that much appears certain so far (to me). Each one of us has a very specific role that only fits that one person, thus none is more or less important than the other. We have specific flaws and strengths that make us perfect for our role here. We are also immensely well balanced as to what cards we hold, even though no two of us share a same hand. Though one thing that still eludes me is what is truth, can we ever be 100% certain of something at this point?? Whoever designed all this blows my mind.
a matured to equilibrium (eco)system will perfectly furfill all the needs demanded. this is the same reason for why there is a range of IQs. evolution knows what is best for stability and more specifically perpetuation of life. being born is like a seed being planted. you exist to furfill where your genetics have placed you. just like how complex systems like rainforests are required to furfill complex tasks, complex people are here to do complex tasks for society. if everyone in society was gifted, most might be homeless if there was no mass automation. evolution knows what diversity we need to keep society existing