- xQuizy - I know that woman personally, I'll refer to her as kurens as that's what most people in the area call her. She's been living around her for close to 20 years and along the way has helped in the Victorian hospital, child youth and many other organisations. She lost her husband to the troubles and has had to deal with that loss for nearly 30 years. What you said is frankly so disrespectful. She has had to deal with cancer of the liver in 2013 and she fought if for nearly two years. It came back in May this year and whilst the chance of her dying is low, it's disgraceful you'd say that. I run her to the local Sainsbury's from time to time and she is truly a wonderful woman. For 69 years she's been helping this Earth, you disgust me.
as a past resident and past party goer in the holylands i can relate to both sides of this story. the wee old lady with the dogs is a legend talk to her a few times in the past. my only problem then and now is the lack of cleaning up after ones self. when i partied i used council bins and residence bins to throw my cans and bottles away i didnt smash them in the street because knowing my dumb luck i'd trip over blocked and cut my self on the bottle i broke lol
Wee ould doll with her dogs in the pushchair is lovely. You can't help but like her. Students need to wise up and catch themselves on. Respect the elderly, women and children in the area and celebrate sensibly. ☘️
thats my great granny, shes had the shop beside her house bombed many a window smashed and all the other student crap. she lived through the occupation of denmark during ww2 so shes seen worse.
Your great granny is one patient lady. I think the constant noise level would drive me nuts especially if the little dogs decided to join in. When you're young you don't think of these things
Do not blame the students alone. Blame must be put on others also. 1) Private Landlords. Bought these houses cheap and turned 3-4 bedroom houses into 6-8 bedroom hours. Cramming more and more students into dark, mouldy rooms. Turning the area into a student ghetto. The people who didn’t sell up and leave were victims. But Northern Ireland isn’t overly wealthy and many students don’t have an option to live in other student areas. The area is densely packed, and this creates a student ‘party’ area. 2) The City Council. The council has has over a decade since the first mass gatherings for Paddy’s. They haven’t responded to this, and created an alternative. Like a festival in the nearby Ormeau Park! Clean up the Holylands. Create a festival. Make the private landlords create decent living spaces.
If the council actually planned it sensibly they could line it with bins/recycling bins and toilets. Students would use them. Blame the landlords too for making bank off cramming so many students into one area and then absolving themselves of all responsibility.
The elderly people are the most tolerant u will ever find in any society. They have seen it all b4. It's a shame they have to put up with today's garbage. Our biggest shame here in the west is the way we all treat our elderly.
3:45 the fella saying one or two days out of the year it will get rowdy LOL. Its every single day Sunday night through Thursday night is pure mental in the holy lands! Cant wait to leave it myself!
@@Huntee935 it's BBB for sure, AAB are the MENG integrated masters courses, its not hard to get into queen's if your doing things other then medicine dentistry and actuarial science
My grandmother and her family left Belfast for America in 1919, I think. She was Protestant, as are my parents and brothers. All my cousins are Catholic, as are most of my nieces and nephews, and I converted Catholicism while in the military. I hope to visit that city one day. I have no animus towards anyone of either faith or culture, and I hope the situation is relatively peaceful there.
@@jbobdot I’m so sorry to hear this. My condolences for your loss. With such a wonderful back story and personality, I’m sure she is very much missed. Watching her in this documentary must be lovely to see. RIP
Just watched a documentary about South Korean kids studying 15 hours a day and the whole economy of private night school driving them on. Then there is this video.
I’ve been up there for Halloween and st Patrick’s day because I live 15 mins away from the holy lands and now as a 27 year old I feel bad going mad when I was younger, you do forget there is actual residents living there because you generally think it’s houses for the students just
There is purpose build student accom. It's ridiculously expensive and it's also only offered to people who live far away. Therefore people who live closer to Belfast, i.e myself being from Lisburn, have no chance of getting the accomodation, that's why most have resorted to living around Queens and in the holylands.
its a big awkward if you have a 9am appointment at the hospital, because you have been up all night hoovering because the students are off there trolleys!! hahahaa!
Thomas Mc Loughlin you give out about kids drinking cans on a roof while you are spouting anti Semitic views all credibility or sense of intelligence I might have gained from you was lost in a matter of seconds
Lived there 15 years ago as a student, some of the best years of my life. Looking back it must have been awful for the residents and honestly sometimes you would forget there were residents living there for it really felt like a student haven. Don't remember st patricks day been just as wild then as it is now, i think a lot more people visit it for a few days and just cause a bit more trouble. Most of the students i remember back in the day were decent enough people, but it was the first time living away from home and we were just having a good time and the streets would have singing and shouting in the early hours, It must have been hard to get sleep for residents.
If those were the best days of your life, then it’s been a sad life indeed. I highly doubt you have accomplished anything if heavy drinking is a highlight.
As a student myself, this is my idea of a nightmare. I moved to Manchester and avoided student areas here too. I think the majority of students do have a lack of respect and it upsets me that we are tarnished with the same brush. I literally don't even drink or club either but that's expected of me. It doesn't take much to be a decent human being who respects the people who live around them, wish more students had this mentality. The two old ladies are the cutest wee things!
Lived in the holylands for 2 years. 1st apartment wasn't awesome, but it was fun to hang with friends. St Paddy's day was pretty crazy though, but criminal neighbours weren't great, some threats and finding them wandering around your house sucked
I lived beside Brigit Kirkpatrick in 2019 for my final year of Uni. Never spoke to her but saw her out walking a lot. The noise/ awful music and bottle throwing/ window egging/ tv smashing/ fireworks kept us awake most nights. Particularly Sundays. She must have been a strong strong woman to have put up with all of it. Regret not stopping her for a chat.
If you don’t have kids who have schedules or a spouse who needs to sleep for work the lady hoovering at 0300 is a legend. Those students are so massively inconsiderate to be so loud and disrespectful….and it’s not all of them for sure, but it’s enough of them to be a problem. It’s not that they don’t want students there, it’s that they don’t have respect for people actually living there. If you can function like that old lady, GREAT (and it’s healthier to live that way), but not everyone is retired and has all the time in the world.
Learning new things. Did not know this side of a story of a country where it is said that it started at. Something should be done so that both groups cud be respected.
A good step has been made with the parking around queens and college avenue. Shows how practical steps can be made. Landlords need held to account for the state of the houses and cramming more people into the small area. Also good steps being made to increase student accomodation across the city.
2002 I started at Queens. First few years, I lived in the Holy Lands. Had some good nights out while staying there. As I got older, I noticed that especially on Paddy's Day, there would be mates of students arriving up from all over the place, just to get wrecked. It was party central around that time. I moved out ASAP. I couldn't imagine living there on a permanent basis.
Even if I was attending college there, I could not stand living in that type of environment....dirty, loud, obnoxious surroundings....My heart goes out to these long term residents...Ugh!
There's not enough affordable houses for the students plus there are only certain areas in Belfast some people can live in depending on your religion and upbringing so the holyland is a very popular area and houses there have no problem getting let out! 🙄
Well you don’t attend college there or live there so get off your high horse. As a former student who resided in the holylands I can say Belfast unfortunately is largely lacking in terms of affordable student accommodation opposed to other UK cities and as such this is the product of its environment. Only now have Universities started to create additional accommodation to encourage students to live elsewhere however at a cost of £400-500 it begs the question as to what students can afford it. So before you give your inattentive opinion on an issue you have no knowledge on take into account both sides of the story and not just this biased documentary filmed on Saint Patrick’s day.
@@Defaultname0000 a month. People also dont realise that the student finance being given to the students is a lot less than the likes of english and welsh students where the prices for accomodation is around the same so a lot of the students dont actually have that money to spend
Mate, you get a grant and if you're stuck you can get a maintenance loan. That's enough for anyone in Belfast. And if you're still stuck, you get a job. Even a min wage job could sort you out for the 9 months whilst you're at Uni. On top of that, work a summer job and save. I was only working 20 hours a week in Dublin, where it is far more expensive than Belfast. And was never once stuck for a pound. That was with me going out on the piss every weekend too.
thomas skeffington are you honestly trying to compare young people drinking one day a year to chattel slavery which kidnapped human beings because of their skin colour, shipped them to the other side of the world and kept them as property and forced them to work in horrible conditions and keeping their children as property only to 'free' them but still oppress, subjugate and otherwise marginalise them for the next 150 years? Stop being a racist please.
fred fredburger I wasn’t aware that historical and generational injustice magically vanished overnight. Imagine two people, A and B. They have an egg each and access to a hen. A steals B’s egg. The next day A steals B’s egg and builds a fence preventing B access to the hen. This continues for a week and eventually A decides to take the fence down and stop stealing the eggs. B complains that he now only has one egg whilst A has 9. A replies “aw historically oppressed wahh wah wah. What’s to stop you from succeeding today” despite the fact that historical oppression still affects B’s present and future as well as his past.
There has always been tension between town and gown but for once the town seems to be in the right. It's crazy how some of them were acting on video, let alone what they might be getting up to when the camera's aren't on them.
Thank you Real Stories up until now thought this stuff only went on at WVU in Morgantown, West Virginia. Would seem it's elsewhere. Only thing missing is couches burning after a game victory or does this happen as well?
Not all young people behave like this. It is more common in countries where "my rights" are considered more important than the rights of the people around you.
The thing is you don't notice when the discrete people are partying. So it skews your perception to think that young people who drink cause a total riot because those are the ones you'll notice.
Well as one can tell things have changed quite a bit in Belfast..... Ireland believe it or not has become one of the most thriving countries in the world.... after years & years of poverty in Northern Ireland it has become much better in the 22 years since the GFA ...
it's important to keep perspective. It's two days a year. I don't condone the behaviour at all but it is literally two nights a year and it's so so heavily policed. I won't get onto the mess and trouble of the twelfth night..
sesom202 1) Queen's is a Russell Group university and is one of the top universities in the UK for research and innovation (you could maybe do your research) as well as having state of the art facilities and schools. Having just graduated from there myself in July with a lucrative graduate job offer after scholarships and networking opportunities provided to me by Queen's, I'm afraid to say with my experience, I disagree entirely with your ill informed opinion. 2) Whilst the antics of these students may be immature, is it fair to demonize a particular group of students for fairly classic student behaviour such as drinking and socialising? Bearing in mind it is not illegal to drink alcohol in the confines and front gardens of these houses and when the students try to take the drink outside of this, the riot vans confiscate it, as you can clearly see stipulated on the riot van signs in the video. 3) I take it you are a scholar of Bath University? Do all Bath students sit around drinking shandy, smoking cigars and discussing politics? Get over yourself. I also feel sorry for you if you are a graduate, as all pupils who went there were absolutely fleeced by your witch of a vice-chancellor and her 468k salary which you all funded with your fees. Adios x
equinox I live on the edge of this and if it was limited to one or two days a year the residents wouldn't mind but it's drunken madness 4 or 5 nights a week from September to June. The constant policing, cleaning up and dealing with it costs a fortune and residents lives are made a misery.
I’d say a lot didn’t get interviewed and the two lady’s that did seemed to enjoy the company , but it is a mad place on st pats day and the question is ....would you move there ???
this is what happens when university accomodation is a rip off. its a terrible place to raise a family. the Holylands has been like this for 20 years. this is not recent. so for about 20 years it has been a bit of a right of passage for alot of folks. and all this crap about what would students know about the troubles etc. theyre just as likely to have first hand experiences themselves and affected by the experiences of their families. calm down folks
The elderly ladies are extremely tolerant of the anti-social behaviour and the Edel Quinn's comments as a young mother were moderate. Surely the producers of this doco could find people who were greatly disturbed by the conversion of their neighbourhood into a drunkards' ghetto. I felt sorry for man brushing up the broken bottles - he needs a few hundred students to help him clean up. Do these students not have a conscience when they see the mess they have created. Nothing traditional here - time for change.
