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@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER 22 дня назад

its the worlds largest stylophone atm. but next time it'll be a whole lot more tuneful :D, i have a plan which im going to see through. but leave your comment below if you have any ideas or suggestions, so i can stick em on the fridge like ringos song ideas! :D

@KeritechElectronics 22 дня назад

The most stylish stylophone! :)

@KeritechElectronics 22 дня назад

@@5cyndi Fran-tastic! :)

@soillodge 22 дня назад

I noticed the way the frequency would change when you applied more pressure/connectivity to the alligator clips. Have you considered a CV sequencer to operate it? Cheers.

@king_ofgames3650 22 дня назад

Why don’t you use the organ PCBS to send 24v into the switch board

@ChrisTackettMusic 21 день назад

Wire it in as a rank with Joan's organ! Use what you already have to be able to play it. You'll probably need to create some other bits to MIDI-fy it, but in the end you'd have what would amount to the first MIDI-ed Compton organ, and from there clever folk with organ sampling technology could sample and preserve these sounds and make them usable today.

@bigclivedotcom 22 дня назад

That is ridiculous! I love those etched/routed tone discs.

@pattheplanter 22 дня назад

I trust your opinion, as you are familiar with the ridiculous.

@PhilR0gers 22 дня назад

Ah! Love it when the worlds of my favourite RU-vid channels collide!

@fburton8 22 дня назад

Yes! They're so... explicit!

@richardsavage2 22 дня назад

@@PhilR0gersexactly my thought!

@LordDragox412 22 дня назад

Some wizard out there is mighty confused why people are calling the magic circles "tone discs".

@Stadsjaap 22 дня назад

"What instrument do you play...? "The 18V hammer drill." 😂

@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER 22 дня назад

haha. the warmest sounding power tool brand

@martinunetic5567 22 дня назад

@Stadsjaap your comment reminded me of Einsturzende Neubauten and playing the angle grinder 😁

@UCCLdIk6R5ECGtaGm7oqO-TQ 22 дня назад

Percussion drill.

@TDOBrandano 22 дня назад

Well, I have seen someone play an angle grinder for precussions on stage, and naturally there's Einstuerzende Neubauten that regularly play compressor turbines, haemostatic rubber bands, teacups, a shopping cart etc.

@LeonEvans_Guyver1 22 дня назад

Mr. Big from 1991 enters the chat...

@spacehitchhiker4264 22 дня назад

Looks like something you'd use to break the enigma cipher.

@dickseevens8099 22 дня назад

That was my first thought! A Turing number cruncher...

@blancfilms 22 дня назад

My first thought too. Looks like that machine that Turing built. Bomba or something I think it was called.

@ScruffyMisguidedAndBlue 21 день назад

Instead they used it to break out the Enigma Variations!

@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug 20 дней назад

@@blancfilmsYes! Btw. "Bomba" was the Polish machine that the British machine was developed from called "Bombe"

@NORMIES_GET_OUT 18 дней назад

Reporter: "Mr. Turing, now that the war is over, what do you think you will focus your efforts on next?" Alan Turing: "Well, I was thinking about building an instrument..."

@peter.stimpel 22 дня назад

"The conclusion on this video isnt great" - Pardon, it is a great video about a great piece of technology. Thanks for bringing it online, Sam.

@stulora3172 22 дня назад

absolutely. All of their videos are so damn inspiring!!

@Juttutin 21 день назад

It's like when you set out on the first day of a journey you've been planning for ages, and the sun is shining, the views are beautiful, and by the end of day one, you're well on your way.

@keyboardtek 17 дней назад

I was an electronic organ, digital piano, synth tech for 37 years. When I first got hired, my employer explained all the various tone generation designs the various manufacturers had come up with through the years. They were extremely varied and extremely clever. This is one I have never seen.

@imark7777777 14 часов назад

OK that's pretty scary. Probably a lot of avoiding patent infringement.

@matthewseymour8972 22 дня назад

The look of delight when successfully playing a tone generator with a drill...

@Graham_Rule 21 день назад

Those disks are amazing. Primary tone plus a selection of harmonics all in one. Even changed tones by having irregular shapes. What I find most astonishing is that this was probably all built by very skilled people with excellent hearing who could match the sound with old pipe organs. Oh, and they probably also avoided touching the 500V lines.

@Kalvinjj 12 дней назад

I would take a bet at them recording organ samples on vynil, and then observing them through a microscope to match it. Or the more boring way through an oscilloscope. Still takes a lot of knowledge and skill, but the coolest part is how they even came up with that method of generating the tones.

@imark7777777 14 часов назад

@@Kalvinjj but wait what decade is this because that oscilloscope might be a giant tube operated thing! Which means it's still impressive!

@zdenek7220 22 дня назад

That spinner you've opened took my breath.

@unixerius6632 22 дня назад

You marvelous nutter. I'm having a VERY rough day with loss and you manage to make me laugh, with your comments and expressions, at a time that it's sorely needed.

@docthorr 22 дня назад

Be gentle with yourself, you'll get through 💪😘

@buzzedalldrink9131 19 дней назад

@@docthorrwhats a nutter?

@CulinarySpy 22 дня назад

I have overhauled one of these Compton electrostatic tone generator organs. It is a delicate business re-coating rotor surfaces and the adjusting the gaps between rotors and stators, then voicing and filtering the outputs. Lots of fun!

@p60091 22 дня назад

must have been quite an undertaking

@douro20 21 день назад

Are there any left which have the ultralinear tube amp?

@MostlyPennyCat 19 дней назад

What are the rotors coated in? What are the different waveforms in the rotor for? It's filtered? How? I have a million questions.

@ScornfulEg0tist 22 дня назад

I really enjoy how close to a computer this stuff is but even so, it's still so beautifully arcane. Those electrostatic spinners and the etching look way too beautiful to function. playing the spare with a drill was literally witchcraft

@GerinoMorn 22 дня назад

Oh, you're right! I guess one could play with the waveforms and even essentially get analogue computer out of it, doing some math using wave interference... if only I had infinite time xD

@i_never_asked_for_an_alias 22 дня назад

Truly amazing. Imagine slapping the blueprints of this whole thing on the table these days: "Hey guys, i have an idea."

@stitchfinger7678 22 дня назад

Yeah, with how complex electromechanic are, its crazy some of the things people were actually willing to engineer, fund, and physically construct.

@tsm688 21 день назад

@@stitchfinger7678 I have to think that, even then, there were better ways to do it. Look how many outputs those tone wheels have. The amount of redundancy seems insane. Was this organ capable of playing every key simultaneously?

@NinoJoel 20 дней назад

@@tsm688I wouldn' call them redundant. More "voices / possibly stacked mean greater depth in sound. There is a reason some crazy people put together the Yamaha Rack monstrosity that held 8 or more Yamaha DX7s to play via midi

@tsm688 20 дней назад

@@NinoJoel they did that because they thought it'd be a cool use for 8 yamaha dx7's. You don't actually need to do that to get the effect.

@NinoJoel 20 дней назад

@@tsm688 have you ever used one? I don't know how you want to make such sound depth without Manny Manny voices stacked. Sure you could record one and duplicate the recording but that's not very live play friendly now is it

@CuriousMarc 20 дней назад

It looks and sounds frigging awesome! Who needs transistors when gears, pulleys and relays will do!

@timballam3675 18 дней назад

Not quite in the same league as the Bendix air computer though is it 😀

@QuanrumPresence 17 дней назад

I was looking for your comment on this beauty!

@Richardincancale 22 дня назад

What an amazing set of ideas went into that! The tone wheels effectively varying the capacitance as they revolve, according to the shape of the pattern! Really analogue! And those 2D relays to link the keys via the selected stops - you can see that the designer was really thinking about traditional wind-boxes in organs with their 2D structure - and at the same time as you say, looking like cross-bar telephone selectors! Absolutely magic - I’m glad it still makes sound and look forward to seeing it Midi-fied!

@markschweter6371 22 дня назад

Those test panels REALLY going to save time building an interface... don't need to trace ALL THOSE WIRES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😏😉😎

@OmegaSparky 21 день назад

🤯🤯🤯🤯 Wow. I love the ingenuity. It really is an analog sample playback machine. So many possibilities.

@MostlyPennyCat 19 дней назад

@@OmegaSparky Just need a way to etch some metal. I wonder what the metal is...

@lapub. 14 дней назад

@@MostlyPennyCat Usually aluminium.

@burmesecolourneedles4680 22 дня назад

Fantastic! I used to know an amazing old engineer who lived in Ramsgate, Brian Carpenter. He rescued several of these Comptons and had them running (also a 3 manual pipe organ he had built himself!) in one of the large Victorian houses on Marlborough Road.

@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER 22 дня назад

Wonder what happenned to it all?

@Nukle0n 22 дня назад

How many British houses had an organ built in? Did the Council know? 😜

@Magnum3144 21 день назад

Dear God, when you adjust the tension on those wheels, the slowed tones sound so eerie. Like the world is melting

@incandescentconker6193 22 дня назад

What a wonderful machine. *Please* show the output of one of those wheels on an oscilloscope

@fathomisticfantasy2681 22 дня назад

My mentor on the electronic side is an organ repairman. He showed me a much smaller version of the organ sound generator like those. It looked just like a metal brick with axels coming out its sides. My other mentor keeps me on par with acoustic pianos. Just to keep my story strait. My electronics mentor began having issues with walking on a problematic leg. So, getting an episode on organs is a real treat. Much friendly love. Lily

@mikegeary8056 22 дня назад

You could etch a tone wheel like one makes an etching or lithograph. Coat the disk with etching “tar” scratch in the waveforms then submerge it in acid. Then wash off the tar, the acid will have etched where the waveforms where scratched in and not where the tar was. There’s more modern was to make etchings with less harmful chemicals etc. I haven’t made an etching since the 90’s. The new techniques are friendlier. Man you could scratch in some wild waveforms. Maybe a wavetable type scenario. This is so cool. Such a perfect example of sound and art. I’m inspired.

@frederickbaugher8361 18 дней назад

I would imagine a micro imperfection in the etching process Could render the entire plate defective.

@famousutopias 15 дней назад

@frederickbaugher8361 A feature!

@repeatdefender6032 22 дня назад

What a totally wacky thingamajiggy! I just love that you call the other one "Joan's Organ", very sweet to remember her.

@patrickbodine1300 22 дня назад

Joan's or Jones? Makes a big difference. (Please pardon my ignorance)

@stitchfinger7678 22 дня назад

@@patrickbodine1300 "Joan's" as it was owned by a woman named Joan. No worries, he's been doing that project for a while, can't expect everyone to know everything :)

@stevebabiak6997 22 дня назад

Martin: “It would be so cool to play tight music with that instrument using marbles.”

@envisionelectronics 22 дня назад

This is exactly what I thought about when I saw this thing.

@stevebabiak6997 21 день назад

@@envisionelectronics - I am waiting for Martin to add this machine to his marble machine ;) And I admit it would be cool - but that marble machine might never play music if he sets out to add this.

@freeculture 21 день назад

@@stevebabiak6997 considering the time it took to build the 2nd one... he is on the 3rd yet? maybe by the 4th one... If these two guys get together a singularity will occur.

@FPSNecromancerBob 22 дня назад

Chatty Kraftwerk is back with another beautiful example of audio engineering. The tone generating etched circular waveform assembly is a thing of art.

@olavl8827 22 дня назад

Speaking of Kraftwerk, I think Sam would get along with Ralf Hütter if they'd ever meet. Perhaps this needs to be arranged.

@zebo-the-fat 22 дня назад

Amazing, the first thing I thought was the Hammond tone wheel, but it's different and weird! Whoever came up with the idea was smoking the good stuff!

@dmthandmade5674 22 дня назад

An old 3D resin printer can be used to very easily etch a precise and intricate pattern on metal if you wanted to have a go at your own waveforms.. I've made some lovely lithographic plates this way in a few minutes (as opposed to the old ballache way). This thing is amazing.

@pattheplanter 22 дня назад

Will that be better resolution than photoresist?

@dmthandmade5674 22 дня назад

@@pattheplanter You still use photofilm but you don't have to print a transprency, or cut a stencil or make a screenprint. Resolution depends on the printer but most are going to be 2-4K these days. Lots of hobby modellers have an old Mars lying around.

@TesserId 22 дня назад

I would totally do that.

@radarmusen 21 день назад

It could be human choirs not a long sample.

@TesserId 21 день назад

@@radarmusen Choirs, yes. I wonder if the inventors of this thing could imagine some kind of changer, like a record changer, to expand the memory bank capacity.

@pablowentscobar 22 дня назад

That really is an amazing piece of ancient technology. It's stunning the lengths men went to to make noises in churches, I know that's a super over simplified explanation. But, it really is that simple when compared to how complicated and complex these beautiful old machines are. Thanks for sharing such things with us.

@fgroen1225 22 дня назад

So cool to see al this lost technology. What a beauty! People become the most resourceful in the light of lacking resources.

@charleswheeler3418 17 дней назад

I just can't get over how beautiful those etched waveform generators are - mind blown... absolutely love what you do Sam.

@usvalve 22 дня назад

This guy is amazing! While I'm trying to get a record player with a handful of TO-72 transistors working, he's fixing organs with thousands of electrical, mechanical and pneumatic parts. Next project: connecting the Apollo 11 flight computer to work the Star Trek transporter!

@MostlyPennyCat 19 дней назад

Have you seen the channel that restored an Apollo AGC and ran the software that flew the spacecraft?

@totallycrimson5853 22 дня назад

I love old electronics that bridge the gap between mechanical and solid state. Those tone generators are a work of art, the genius who worked out how to make this stuff is incredible.

@axolouis7025 22 дня назад

Its amazing what kind of electronic devices you find and show us. Great work!

@CuriouslySkeptical 22 дня назад

Just incredible! I’m so glad this is being preserved, and not just chucked out. I had the absolute privilege of rebuilding a Hammond and Leslie once - it blew my mind! But this machine is off the charts! I just love everything about this!

@adammoss5284 19 дней назад

The Wurlitzer spectra-tone was similar but spun the speaker 😆

@GothGuy885 22 дня назад

I found the video VERY interesting. I have an old 1960's Vacuum tube, Hammond home organ that still works, though, no one seems to want it. So, I might start to do some experimenting of my own with it, would be interesting to mess around with the tone wheels, and it has a power amp, and 2-3 Pre-amps in it. along with a spring reverb Tank, and tremolo, and other interesting circuits, for my Mad scientist experiments 😀👍

@matekovacs2696 12 дней назад

The inside of those tone generators is just beautiful. Whoever invented this was a genius. They didn't have transistors or fancy ICs, they had relays, motors, metal, and Maxwell's laws. And they still made music. Also, manufacturing these could've been a real chore. A modern CNC would make short work of it, but back then this was made by hand, or with a manually controlled mill. The mechanisms they must've came up with to make perfect sine waves (or the other more intricate waveforms) are equally fascinating, I'm sure.

@JanusMirith 22 дня назад

I tried to come up with a better comment but I've just circled back around to " this makes my brain happy"

@RCAvhstape 12 дней назад

Very cool old technology, good on you for saving such a beautiful machine from the scrap heap and making it sing again!

@sawiblue 22 дня назад

bro is reaching new heights of complexity everyday

@mastercylinder1939 15 дней назад

Thanks for bringing this to our attention, what a fantastic machine. How did I every live without you? You’re a beautiful machine...

@audhen1 22 дня назад

0:03 that giggle :D

@TesserId 22 дня назад

I went back for a listen. That needs to be loaded into a sampling synth.

@dxtxzbunchanumbers 22 дня назад

Always love a good organ transplant

@Alan_UK 21 день назад

Excellent Sam. I've always wondered how these tone units worked. You're doing great work not only rescuing equipment but getting them working, often without manuals. Looking forward to the next episode.

@kenworks6068 22 дня назад

I'm very impressed by your ability to describe and present this system. My mom restored a Wurlitzer for her home and I learned how it all worked. There are so very few people who make the effort to learn these things and fewer yet who are actually teaching the next generation. Thank You

@lfo2vco 22 дня назад

Fascinating, the etching in the tone wheels are a thing of beauty and I imaging this would sound fantastic in a large reverberant space. Thanks for sharing.

@lummsmusik3219 22 дня назад

Thanks for all showing and explaining. So cool to see such exotic hardware working in detail.

@marillion335 22 дня назад

When you opened that tone disk it reminded me of Roto pulses we used to work on back in the 70s/80s in a machine shop. They used two rotating graded glass disks to make a stepping motor move a rack and pinion very accurately. I love the technology and ingenuity of these old systems. You are very smart being able to work all this stuff out. I applaud you mate. Well done. Take care and watch those 500V rails - they hurt. Stu

@kgbstudio 22 дня назад

Dman Sam, these kind of videos are really amazing and so fun to watch. Your passion is so infectious!

@wd-bs4xz 22 дня назад

I’m so happy you’re doing what you’re doing. All the old amazing machines of the world need a knowledgeable and creative person like you.

@gundarsmiks4889 22 дня назад

Keep going. Now already for years you are exploring some interesting things!!! And it just gets better honestly!

@brentdennard6722 22 дня назад

Those tone generating discs are so cool. That’s the coolest thing I’ve seen this month.

@joshuagibson2520 17 дней назад

Hey ya moke. Thanks for sharing this. Unreal amount of effort to produce these back in the day.

@TheSynthnut 22 дня назад

Fantastic stuff indeed. This is yet more really incredible gear to get for the museum. The transitional technologies that get forgotten are fascinating. Looking forward visiting again...

@TheFurriestOne 17 дней назад

What a fantastically complex, yet deceptively simple, bit of kit! Wonderful bit of musical machinery.

@KristovMars 22 дня назад

You're a genuine treasure Sam, thankyou for all the mad awesomeness you share with us.

@SusanAmberBruce 22 дня назад

Wow! Sometimes it's such a surprise to find out stuff like this, it's been there in our midst for ages but hidden away.

@MikeSmith-sh3ko 12 дней назад

I am amazed how busy you keep yourself Sam. Love that you just got stuck in 👍

@WanTan8888 9 дней назад

i dont think people understand how amazing this is, in a day where all of this is ran by software, to be able to do these things with insane analog solutions is just amazing

@DanielGBenesScienceShows 22 дня назад

Sam, you never fail to come across awesome electromechanical things that I did not know existed. I have an old Hammond B1 tonewheel organ that is amazing to stare into, but the organ in your video blows it away!

@Ghaz002 22 дня назад

oh my god those waveform/pickup etchings look so damn cool, like something you'd find in an alien spaceship

@emmetcassidy 22 дня назад

:D your face when messing about with the drill

@bricelory9534 22 дня назад

There is something magical in having the guts of this mechano-electronic organ exposed to explore like this! I like the idea of making it MIDI controlled - it could be fun to see if you could use a device to adjust the belt tension to make a controllable pitch bend. Interesting sounds!

@Maxxarcade 21 день назад

That is one of the coolest things I've seen in a long time! You could MIDI that to your existing pipe organ and have a sizeable hybrid setup. I'd like to hear how all the various "ranks" from that sound when it's being played.

@PeranMe 21 день назад

Fantastic!! Thank you so much for letting the rest of us see and hear these crazy contraptions! ❤

@a100user 22 дня назад

Love these insights into alternative sound generation. Nice one Sam.

@almosthuman4457 19 дней назад

Thank you so much for sharing this stuff with the world. It's always good to learn something new.

@ReedCBowman 21 день назад

OMG I had no idea they built things like that. Those etched tone wheels are astonishing. This kind of thing is why your channel is such a treasure. I hope to be able to visit your museum someday.

@plou0018 17 дней назад

Imagine being the original constructor of such a machine and knowing this is cutting edge tech. And for us to see it uncovered, moth balls n’ all, and barely understand what the bloody hell is going on inside. Cheers, mate for blowing my mind.

@michaelbauers8800 20 дней назад

As is often the case with your videos, I am blown away by learning about something I had no idea that existed. For all I know, there's no other video online showing this vintage tech.

@Tharicnar 21 день назад

This is a piece of technology I never knew existed. Absolutely love the invention required to figure something like this out. Spinning discs with etched patterns to generate tones? Crazy... marvelous, but crazy. Love that you are taking care of this and finding this organ a new home.

@DJSockmonkeyMusic 20 дней назад

Incredible. I can't wait to see what you squeeze out of it!

@mattman5406 21 день назад

I can't wait to see this, me and friend have organized a holiday down to see the museum late august

@theonlywoody2shoes 21 день назад

I’m currently rebuilding a Viscount Grand Opera (1980s Italian electronics!) for our local church where I’m the organist. Love this piece of nostalgia technology, thanks for saving it and showing it - looking forward to hearing it in its fully glory.

@WarpedWorldWeird 22 дня назад

You're absolutely amazing, I've followed you for many years, under my other channel The Adventures Of Kaz, and i absolutely love you and your channel 💜💜💜💜💜

@friskydingo5370 21 день назад

This is so cool. It is amazing. It showed the creative mind of the times before modern electronics. What genius thought of this? Insanely awesome 👌 👏 👍

@SteveMaggioncalda 17 дней назад

brilliantly done as always! thank you! so enlightening.

@youlemur 22 дня назад

i dont have words to express how cool this is

@LearnAndSharePT 22 дня назад

Thank you fot sharing this. Never knew about this machines. Amazing !

@wallpurgesnight8209 19 дней назад

Being an organ guy at heart I'm very glad to see my donations are going to a good cause.

@user-dq2zx2ei4m 18 дней назад

Thank you for sharing an in-depth amazing piece of technology.

@gordonrobertson102 22 дня назад

Thanks, This has got to be the most amazing form of e-music devices you have ever showcased

@DonChups 17 дней назад

This is incredible. Thanks for showing this amazing tech

@BeniRoseMusic 20 дней назад

I was watching waiting to find out how a pre-transistor electric organ handled routing the signal from the console and thought "surely it wasn't relays, that would be loud and potentially slow", but sure enough, it was relays! Amazing how they implemented those grids of relays!

@virginiarocks 18 дней назад

Fascinating! And wonderful. Thank you

@andrewquantum 22 дня назад

Man, this thing is so cool. I love your videos. You’re a genius man. keep up the good work maybe someday I will make it to your museum.

@christophernoto 21 день назад

Wowwwwww! My wife was trained as a church organist when she was a girl. The congregation had, on the South Side of Chicago, of all things, in a Very Traditional congregation, a Hammond B3 with a Leslie speaker! I first saw it in the Fall of 1971, and man, I was BOGGLED. === But you, young man, keep cranking out the most amazing videos, unearthing electronic musical gear from The Ahistorical Vermiform Appendix of Time! ❤ Thank you! ❤

@tees_trials 19 дней назад

Great to see a lad happy in his work. That is right up your alley eh. Can’t wait to hear it chime 🤙

@scarfboy 18 дней назад

That is fascinating, ridiculous, and the internals are gorgeous. One of the things that strikes me is that probably no one would think to do it like this again, but it would be so much fun if they did.

@mr.selfdestruct2917 13 дней назад

Amazing. Made my day better. Thank you.

@harrysmbdgs 22 дня назад

This might be the coolest electromechanical device I've ever seen!

@Sharklops 22 дня назад

Few things excite me as much as finding out LMNC has posted a new video. They are always so fun and interesting, despite me not knowing jack about either electronics or music