That's what I thought too. Ellie and Joel from the game are not replaceable BUT Ellie and Joel from the show are awesome anyway. Just two worlds with precious Ellies and Joels each.
@@SGhosht she already has the acting down and as for the physicality, she was a giant slaying badass in game of thrones at like 12 lol she's gonna be great
@@sweetsolitude99 doing great and being great for a part are two different things , slaying imaginary dragons is much different than 1 on 1 fighting for your life vs someone MUCH larger than you … it will look like Bella Ramsey vs Rhonda Rousey … that’s absurd imo. I said nothing about her acting. This is purely a practical / believable physical situation.
@@sweetsolitude99 I’ll go ahead and say as 14 year old Ellie , fantastic job … throw her an award even. But as 21 year old soldier age Ellie … nope 👎🏻 need to recast … and they need to be auditioning now tbh
@@SGhosht They're not gonna recast her. That's already been said. When it comes to looking the part I think you forget how much work the makeup and wardrobe team put in to make her look even younger and Pedro older. And with s2 she'll be playing around her age. There's no show Abby to even compare to yet so that's too early to say but it already looked ridiculous for game Ellie going against Abby. That was the point, there was more to it than muscles. It was about how far they were both willing to go.
I'm watching this after seeing episode 8 and omfg 😲. She comes across as so awkward and uncomfortable doing interviews like this but then you see her performing such astonishing scenes with absolute conviction and mastery and it's like she's a different person. She's definitely winning a lot of awards for this season 👏
I'm so glad they've got that "oath" to stay away from the comments around the show, be it negative or positive. Some of the hate Bella Ramsey has gotten is completely unwarranted and insanely immature. I'm sure she probably has thicker skin than I imagine, but it kind of made me lose some faith in humanity from hearing and seeing it myself, so I can't imagine if I was her and it was directed at me. I'm glad they pushed so she wouldn't be influenced at all by the performance of Ashley Johnson from the game, because her portrayal in those 4 first episodes has been an absolute joy to watch.
@@generalwillwelsh7926 Yes. Did you? What's your point? I like that the creators don't let their actors be influenced by the source content, but rather just let them come to their own understanding and allow for their own interpretation of the characters to come through on screen. The creators still know about the source content and direct the actors in the general path that they want the characters to follow, while still giving them some leeway and not expecting them to just do a carbon copy of their counterparts in the game. It allows for a different and fresh portrayal of the characters, while still keeping the essence of who those characters are. My point is exactly that. For anyone who's played the game, it's clear to see that Bella isn't just trying to replicate Ellie's persona from the game. She's putting her own spin to it, and for what it's worth I think her portrayal has been pretty damn good. She's absolutely adorable in those scenes where she's trying to display the playful, innocent side of Ellie trying to crack down Joel's wall, and she's really fuckin' good in the more emotional scenes where her character experiences trauma. I wasn't sure from the get-go but she's been giving a very good, nuanced performance, while still being very different from Ashley Johnson's portrayal.
@@flecks_piano I thought she was good from episode 2 imo. She does a really good job at breathing new life into Ellie while still giving us the same character that we know and love. I don't understand the hate Ramsey gets at all.
Watching episode 5 has in my mind solidified Bella Ramsey as an INCREDIBLE Ellie. And I feel the same way, the negative comments towards her I’ve found negatively affect my mood, I can’t imagine if it was actually me those senseless comments were directed at!
bella's perfect for ellie 100% but i also wanted to give props to josh for being one of the most pleasant, amicable interviewers i've ever watched. idk what it is specifically but he gives off such a comforting friend vibe
Keep up the great work Josh. It's clear you make everyone feel very comfortable and you have a really solid flow to your interviewing. You're going to be huge one day.
Bella really carries Ellies Energie so good! I am very Happy for her that she gets the love she deserves (Like anybody in the Show). She seems such a cool Person in rl too. Big hugs from Germany 🤘
I think she will be fine, she strikes me as someone who is too wise and ahead of the curve to be bothered by the internet, even though she is really young, well actually she's not that young, she is nearly 20, but looks younger definitely.
Bella seems really cool, intelligent and interesting. Great interview and I liked how informal it felt as well as being insightful. Good stuff Josh and Bella!
Josh: “would you like to recite it for me?” Bella: “Absolutely not” and “I really have seen too many of his interviews” That was so Ellie of her lol, love it!
I had watched the gameplay a thousand years before seeing the HBO series poster, but when I first saw the poster, it made total sense, as if Bella was in the game. Then I watched the whole gameplay again and obviously see now their differences, but they're both so valid in the idea of who Ellie is that it's easy to accept they're the same person. Great interview by the way! Nice questions!
Think Bella grew into the part of Ellie. I thought she came over a little too street wise and cold in the first few episodes but in recent episodes we've seen that softer more vulnerable side to Ellie, which I think is so important in the growing relationship between her and Joel. Some amazing reactions too. Bella's (Ellie's) reaction to Henry shooting himself sent chills down my back and the "everyone except f--king you" really hit home. Of all the games I've played over the years TLOU is my favourite by quite some distance and I think they're doing a wonderful job so far. I only wish you guys would have been given 12 or 16 episodes, because there's so much more to tell and I feel they're having to rush through sections a bit. Good luck with the rest of the series Bella....the age thing , my daughter was just like that. She was still carrying her passport at 26 to show she was old enough to drink lol. God if I was recommending classics I've loved from back in the day, there are so many. I guess 'One flew over the cuckoos nest' from my teenage years and a more recent film (2004) and one that flies under the radar is Shane Meadows 'Dead mans shoes'. Such a superb film, but I have to say it's a little violent and disturbing in places but one that leaves such an impression.
im sooo excited for all of em to hang out together back in canada !! pedro and bella love em!! cant wait for casting news too for abby and lev and dina and jesse
I love Bella so much. Amazing actor, seems like an amazing human and I'm so happy Bella and Pedro are Ellie and Joel!!! ❤️ Stunning. So so so proud of them. Can't wait to see what else apart from more TLOU Bella will be in bc love love the way they portray characters! ❤️❤️❤️❤️🤗
Ya. Honestly it's just some ppl not understanding cognitive ease and how them chilling out about it actually speeds their own ability to get over that bias and accept something not perfectly familiar in it's own right and for it's own value
Gotta say, Josh you're one of my favourite Interviewers ever. Your questions are always carefully crafted, intricate, thoughtful and interesting. You convey your own interest and appreciation for the Arts with such respect and eloquence. I have such deep appreciation for Journalists like you, seeing how many there are that ask the same questions over and over again and have little to no interest in the topic at hand. I always enjoy your podcast.
Merle Dandridge is recreating her role from the game as Marlene and both Ashley Johnson and Troy Baker will have roles in the tv version but as different characters however.
She’s the perfect person for Ellie! She gives those Ellie vibes and I’m super excited to see her as a more grown Ellie! Also it’s gonna be super interesting seeing her then with Dina and their beautiful love story!! Damn I can’t wait. Gosh, Bella is so gooood man! I adore her
I just wanted to say Bella can play older Ellie in Season 2. She can act her actual age (19 years old), and they can make her look older with makeup, hair & costume. She can wear lifts in her shoes and she can bulk up a bit.
I don’t agree , I cannot see Ramsey square off against Abby in the least bit … I’m not knocking her acting this literally boils to a physical mismatch beyond the mismatch in the game , ellie at least is tall and slender with ripped arms … she got smashed by Abby but it was a believable fight in a sense … Ramsey woudl get annihilated in 1 second by Abby purely based on the physical build … I think they need a 10 year time jump and cast maybe the redhead from IT or something , someone that is built more like Rey from Star Wars
@@plankton2878 if the stay true to the game make Abby a jacked killing machine than it will be absolutely absurd looking to put Ramsey against that character… they will need to basically “nerf” Abby to a middle schooler to make the fight between her and Ramsey believable… Ramsey literally looks like a middle schooler irl
@@plankton2878 I get it but Ellie was still kinda scrappy built in the game , I’ve seen skinny dude whoop buff dude irl , but never a small portly person like Ramsey I dunno … it’s whatever guess we’ll see
Episode 8 to me, made her believable as a part 2 Ellie or Rambo Ellie. When she held up David and James and stepped on the guns and cleared all the rounds, that was menacing as hell.
I went into this video purely to thank you so much for including spoilers in the title, and no spoilers in the thumbnail. I have been spoiled so much already of season 2 because of people literally spoiling stuff in their thumbnail, it has ruined the entire story for me. At least kinda, the show is absolutely fantastic tho. I have not played the games, because they are pretty expensive, and the story will come out on the show anyway.
by far the most shocking part of this interview is that josh doesnt have a driving licence! i mean i dont either but i live in europe so its fine - how do you get by without a driving licence in america though?? =)
OMFG THANK U FOR ASKING THEM ABOUT THE PODCAST, i was looking for longer form less edited content from them and searched up their name on spotify thinking i’d just find a few podcasts/interviews they’ve done and found that absolute GEM. wanted to ask if they ever considered continuing it or like what the story there was, so thank you for ur service lmfaooooo 🫡
Tbf i am fine with waiting. I don’t want them to either rush it or make Nd rush Tlou3 to help the show. I think a 2 year gap between each season would be good
I'm watching her RU-vid channel called united hope and I'm just at awe at how she seems like a genuine person, I hope hollyweird doesn't poison her, and no not talking about the gender fluid thing
You all are so mean sometimes, the reason their stuttering and not seeming like they are not prepared is because it’s not scripted they might’ve seen the question but it’s not scripted so they had to think of it on the spot
I am very exacted for the 2nd series, there are so many thi9ngs I am looking forward to. As far as I am concerned the 2nd game is bigger, better and more mature. Its 10 times as impressive.
