@@SonicTheBestHedgehogbro chill stop he can't solo dagon he can't solo the anodites and he can't solo the tajmanians and he also can't solo the Galvins and also Goku is an alien and that means the Omnitrix can just imprison him or scan his dna
More credit needs to be given to Atomix. During the episode "Undercover", Way Big was able to lift the hyperspace jumpgate, which, according to Paradox, was made of a neutronium-carbon alloy, and if we calculate this against Way Big, the density of the jumpgate is equivalent to that of the moon. Way Big lifted something about the same weight as the moon!!! And Atomix defeated Ultimate Humungousaur with a single blow, who, since the events of "The Ultimate Sacrifice", is considered to have similar strength to Way Big (and even though he doesn't have it, Atomix is canonically considered like stronger than Way Big anyway). Additionally, it's confirmed that Atomix can use Fusion Cuisine to create suns the same size as ours with a little work, and even Broly didn't survive a dip in the sun (okay, there is a clear difference in level between Broly and Goku Super Saiyan Blue, but I think that even the latter wouldn’t come out of a full sunset unscathed)
@@mister.e2751 The Super Sayan is not a species, if the Omnitrix takes its DNA, it will become a normal Sayan. And since the power of the Sayan depends entirely on Ki, it would be a somewhat mediocre transformation.
@@midnightdemon9186 Not really, but yeah if the show continued we could have seen more feats. But SHIT THANKS to cartoon network to ruin such a GODLY show.
@@midnightdemon9186 currently alien x has no feat other than recreation of a universe.Anine characters like rimuru,anos,hajun,featherine,antispiral, truth,kame tenchi solos Ben 10 verse
@@kingofdragons2552 They believe that it is high hyperversal because it is higher than 24 dimensions and that there are infinite timelines because the professor produced a digital image that represents the timelines in the form of a tree, but he said that it is hypothesis. A hypothesis is an assumption, an idea that is proposed for the sake of argument so that it can be tested to see if it might be true. 24 dimensions are only normal dimensions and have not been classified or set a clear scale for them by any character. You must be above countless dimensions They have infinite space and have the same scale as the original universe to be (multiversal +) or infinite dimensions in order to be high multiversal. In order for it to be high comblx to hyperversal, there must be infinite time lines, but as the professor said, it is just a hypothesis, so it cannot be taken seriously because The same source disputes this statement. That's why it's only low multiversal
I really liked that you gave credit to Ultimate Way Big, because people don't normally consider the extraordinary power he has, he literally only lost because he was fighting an Extradimensional Lovecraftian Entity (Diagon)
@@L_Dragon650 Eu quis dizer q eu gostei q ele deu crédito ao Gigante Supremo pq as pessoas esquecem q ele é tipo top 2 supremos mais overpowers de ben 10. Tipo, ele só perdeu a luta lá em Supremacia Alienígena contra o Diagon pq o Diagon é pratica e literalmente um deus além da realidade
I don't think Ultimate Alien-X exists. Like, Ultimate form is an evolution after being in a war for million years. Why tf should he battle for a million years when he can just wipe out the universe in seconds?
@@Alastordadeer Thats.. untrue. "Transcendent big bang" isn't a thing. It was just a doomsday device that destroys the universe, which isn't as big as the DBS universe mind you. No where near. The dbs universe is a macrocosm. There's hell, heaven, and the universe itself. The size of the db universe has been calculated to be 5.5x the size of ours WHICH IS IN FUCKING SANE BTW. LETS USE OUR BASIC LOGIC NOW, if SSG Goku (when he first unlocked the power) CLASHED WITH BEERUS AND NEARLY DESTROYED THE UNIVERSE that would make him automatically universal+ right? That's taking in to account that it was the force of Beerus was well as the force of Goku. IF WE TAKE LETS SAY GOKU IN THE MANGA WOULD HE NOT BE HUNDREDS OF TIMES THIS STRENGTH? Goku is MOST DEFINITELY Multiversal++ LOWBALL. And he has resistence to erasure as he tanked hakai energy from a god in base form.
@@luisalvarado754 What would any elemental power do to Goku? Wind is not doing anything, so let’s just get that out of here. Fire? He fought broly in lava. I think he’s good. Now mind you, that’s the best option you had, cause water and earth arent gonna do anything to Goku either.
For those who say alien X don’t have experience or battle. IQ alien X is omnipresent. He exist throughout everywhere and every time so he was around when he was born and when you’re 50 at the same time also, he has the ability to just learn things that simple.
This also excludes Ben having the ability to turn into a Saiyan... Cuz that gives him prime Saiyan powers + full knowledge + immortality + god forbid ultimate full power super Saiyan 💀
@@DonDon-gy3qg Ben actually turns into the Strongest and Healthiest of an Alien Species, so him gaining saiyan dna is the equivalent of giving him a Broly Form.
@@noahmorgan6339 Nah Ben cant achieve UI, mainly cuz its not a Saiyan form but a technique used by the angels and still needed to be mastered by the GODs, Ben will gain a perfect knowledge of the Saiyan species but he wont have a perfect knowledge of the DB verse
The reason why u guys are saying goku wil win alien x is either u didnt watch the benten properly and listening to the statement or because there wasnt any fight to see what he( alien x is capable of) the immortal part, There was an episode where the two back figures in alien x mind space were arguing about saving the dinosaurs, How did they know if It wasnt immortal. And I said alien x not ben. No human is immortal nah
Bro 1. Spider man topey Maguire vs captain America video poduga ( OR) 2. Captain America vs John wick video poduga bro please bro ( OR ) 3. Captain America vs chotta Bheem video poduga bro please bro
Feedback, chromastone, way big, jet ray, clockwork, atomix, heatblast, the worst, grav-attack, ghost freak, whampire, upchuck, and NRG, all these aliens would curb stomp goku if he does goku things (goku rarely goes to MUI or other forms other than base first in a fight), goku also shows lasers are really good against him, and jet ray is far faster than goku at times, goku doesnt show any resistance to radiation in canon (Z broly isnt canon ive hard checked this), feedback and chromastone can absorb any form of energy, upchuck can eat basically anything including energy, clockwork just doesnt care about goku's entire kit, grav-attack is just gonna crush him, way big, aromix, and NRG use radiation to attack, the worst is indestructible, whampire and ghost freak can mind control and ignore mana which works like ki but better, heatblast species, pyronites, can produce super nova levels of heat as toddlers if they tantrum, now imagine an adult pyronites heat, and all this is subtracting anything ben doesnt have access too daily, no alien x, no ultimates, no reality altering sword, nothing but base kit plus master control, and alien x would pretty easily solo the entire verse, for 1 ben has full control of alien x by omniverse, 2 alien x is stronger than clockwork, who reversed a, at bare minimum high complwx multiversal destroying bomb, and said bomb can also be contained by feedback, and can be used to create an entire multiverse worth of timelines that it can destroy, that leaves alien x at bare minimum high hyperversal and thats not including the generator rex stuff (which is canon, shocksquatch), all the magic realm stuff, the forge of creation, professor paradox, and all the other stuff i didnt mention, Zeno is is mid tier multiversal, what is he gonna do against alien x, "he can destroy anything with a thought", no he doesnt, in none of the times zeno destroys anything he has to put in physical effort, tournament of power, future trunks destroyed timeline, zamasu, and all other showings of him destroying things show this, alien x has "they could blink and we'd be gone" -kevin E. Leven ultamate alien force, they can canonically change the artstyle and renderings of characters shown in omniverse, and they can do basically anything they want, while being indestructible when fighting another celestial sapien, and then when ben got full control over alien x, he bodied said celestial sapian, not to mention alien x can make ben omniscient if he needs it, shown nearly every time alien x is used, and after all of this, goku still has to deal with the fail safes in the omnitrix thatll prevent bens death, its failsafe is near instantaneous and can predict the future, goku has no way to logically win without high-balling goku to a ridiculous and disingenuous extent, and downplaying ben to the point where you ignore the plot of UAF and omniverse.
I mean a baby heatblast is enough to make a supernova which I think scales heatblast to at least at the start of the buu saga strength with proof being that even at the end of the cell saga they still need to charge their ultimate attacks(Kamehameha, final flash, etc) in order to destroy the planet while a baby pyronite can do that just from being upset
Lol then you should know how strong end of gt goku is. Your bringing "jet ray" thats only light speed.. "Way big" that's only planetary lvl. "Swamp fire" bro what. End of gt goku Transcends death and living to train nonstop for 100 years in human terms. Not only that being merged with the shenron that transcends all the shadow dragons combined before the 100 years started. Being able to grant wishes without needing the dragon balls at all, he became something further than something outer versal being able to make an avatar of himself fade in and out of reality. He is the guardian of the verse itself and from the looks of it also being in the same realm as Xeno Goku, transcends heaven and hell itself and judging from his interaction with piccolo at the end of GT he already transcended before the 100 years since he says goodbye despite entering hell with no problem whatsoever. From the looks of it he resided in his own realm that just transcended the existence of the endless concepts death and living when just fusing with shenron, AT BASE. Now add 100 years of training on top of that to his recent appearances in the ova and the episode where he leaves off to train even more. True GT Goku is Xeno Goku before Xeno Goku was a thing. the only alien that can touch end of gt goku is alien X.@@sparkplusultra9289
@@DonDon-gy3qgi mean we saw clockwork specie beat celestial sepiem so i say clockwork is multiverseal lv, alien x can solo dragon ball, ultimate waybig fought dagon for a while dagon is multiversal so he is good and if we take it by calculation feedback can control and direct infinite amount of energie like when he used power of all ben aliens so he can redirect any goku ki base power
Es de los pocos videos que he visto que no dan puntos por favoritismo si no por hechos y cosas que se demuestran por parte de ambos. Al inicio me sorprendió que pusiera que Ultimate waybig era más fuerte que Goku ssj3 hasta que recordé que arrastró a un dios lovecraftiano, lo mismo pasa con piedra en esa misma parte
@@blackuchiha803 Diagon es un dios de legerdomain donde tiene poder absoluto dentro y fuera de este reino. De hecho ascalon ya rasgaba el tejido de la realidad (siendo esta la razón por la cual afectaba a diagon) lo cual yo pondría a diagon en nivel universal (al soportar estos ataques como meros rasguños y lanzar más potentes). Goku tendría que acceder al ssj god para enfrentarlo y probablemente perdería por las habilidades de alterar la realidad de diagon. Un amigo tiene más conocimiento que yo pero no puedo contactarlo ahora, aún así eso me parece suficiente para ponerlo encima de un ssj3
@@xxesparta779xx7 Cortar la realidad ni siquiera se acerca a Universal, esto es un hax en el mejor de los casos, Diagon solo tiene hazañas y citas de Planeta Grande, nada más que eso.
@@blackuchiha803 Bueno, eso depende del motivo por el que lo hace, en este caso creo que tienes razón al ascalon ser construida para eso, pero eso sería el poder del objeto en cuestión y también podría ser por poder bruto (pero tienes razón, es más por haz), y lo siguiente es soportarlo aunque ciertamente tienes un punto. Puedo traer más información dentro de un rato
This is still a W for ben no matter what the omnitix is op as hell with a faill safe if ben dies the omnitix WILL find a suitable form for ben to be in so he dosent die even if you forcfuly take out the watch it will not go off this form of tech is just too op to even beat
@@terminator2.0.12 Dude,, human ben is smarter than goku and about battle iq then ben as alien x fought with galactic gladiator and there ben's hand to hand combat was better than other celestials.. And celestial's iq, battle iq >> saiyans...
We can argue of clockwork being stronger then at least ssj god since we don't know the actual potential of clockwork but we do know that he can slow down time and do much more Also it has been confirmed by the writer there is one alien stronger then alien x in the Omnitrix although we are never shown what it is Also the Omnitrix copies DNA and transforms the user into thier fittest form an example would be ben four arms defeating a female version of four arms whereas as far as i remember female version of four arms are much stronger then the male So my conclusion on ben scanning Goku DNA is that we get another Broly a much more calm Broly
The idea of there being an alien stronger than alien x is old, and before one of the directors said that it would take 3 celestialsapiens to recreate 1 universe.
Yep, moment the omnitrix turns yellow its over for everyone (people be thinking anti spiral can solo alien X but moment it scans that goofy ahhs dna its over for him)
That exactly why we believe Ben 10 can actually beat Goku 😂 Goku is literally a alien, All Ben have to do is either scan Goku or Beerus or Broly and just like that Goku is done for 😂
@@Jakenitroblaze42A good bit of his other aliens are enough. NRG, Upchuck, Feedback, Gravattack, Atomix (despite not having many feats, but it's canon he's Ben's second most powerful alien), Ultimate Way Big, etc etc.
@@SonGoku59249Yes the omnitrix can, If there is an intelligent species nearby, the omnitrix can scan the species' DNA and transform into it after scannig
It's crazy how i never even thought that THE GOKU who is on a multi galaxy level could be removed out of the existence by Ben, It was my first ever cartoon that I've watched, as far as i remember 😂
@@dadoggo1513re-creating the universe is what I remember but still Alien x is literally can do anything nothing can ever hurt him except his own type+ I'm a Goku fan btw
@@mr_zer0goat overall goku still beats him str and speed wise in BOG he was able to destroy UV7 Macrocosm which includes heaven and hell which are 3 universes in total and it have gotten to the point where goku can do it in base due to him absorbing the god ki and training with for like 3 or more years As for speed goku was able to travel through heaven and hell in a couple of seconds which would put him MFTL+ in Z only
Three things 1. You underestimate Eye Guy 2. No Diff for Alien X against Goku is too much. Alien X wins BEYOND NEG DIFF 3. Alien X doesn't count because Alien X is not Ben. But still Ben wins with Clockwork, Feedback, Atomix or Eye Guy Yes Eye Guy can beat Goku or come close.
Id like to point out as you give power to Ben every time, that at any point after super Saiyan 1 Goku has enough power to destroy earth and by ss3 he can destroy earth by powering up if he isnt careful
Se o Goku destruir a terra ele morre já que não sobrevive ao vácuo do espaço, isso da uma grande vantagem ao Ben que pode sobreviver dependendo do Alien que escolher, e não precisa ser o Alien X, o fantasmatico poderia sobreviver. Mas independente o Ben vence uma luta contra o Goku pois ele tem mais diversidade, mesmo que muitos Aliens não sejam tão poderosos em poder bruto como Goku ele leva vantagem por ter muitos Aliens com habilidades específicas que podem derrotar o Goku.
Bro really gave other aliens than Alien X points, Base Goku > all Ben 10 aliens other than Alien X, Goku negs Clockwork, Feedback or Waybig, Ben 10 fanboy fr Only Alien X can even beat Goku
Finalmente achei alguém com um cérebro no meio de tanta loucura O Goku da saga saiyajin, com o Kaioken já venceria qualquer alien do Ben facilmente A única opção é ficar usando o alien X, que o Ben precisa ainda das decisões de mais 2 entidades para fazer algo
Lol no, clockwork deletes his existence. Feedback will just absorb his ki and get stronger than him and atomix would kill him by atomising him or with nuclear toxins since goku can catch lethal viruses.
@@marcosferreira5849Errado, Ben sem Alien X destrói planetas, estrelas, sistemas solares, galáxias, o universo infinito, e até o multiverso infinito, mas poder bruto não é tudo Ben tem aliens com hax que Goku não tem defesa
@@marcosferreira5849 errado de novo fanboy, o Atômico, NRG (com armadura), O Pior, Diamante, Gigante, Fantasmatico, Friagem, Anfíbio, NRG (fora da armadura) aguentariam de boas um soco do Goku, ou por já terem levados golpes absurdos e resistido, ou por serem intangíveis, fora que só o contato com NRG fora da armadura e Atômico Goku seria desintegrado por conta da radiação, e o Fantasmatico pode atacar os órgãos internos do Goku e o Friagem pode congelar os órgãos do Goku, e a lista continua
Creo que no toma en cuenta en tiempo de recarga del omnitricks que al transformarse en un alien tiene que esperar para transformarse en otro y eso le da mas puntos de combate al goku
pero apartir de alien force , lo que importa es no gastar toda la energia del omnitrix , ya que el tiempo se fue. asi que se puede transformar uno tras otro
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@@pokerus1359 I am well aware of his power and how Goku's current level doesn't even compare. BUT, Let me remind you Alien X isn't invincible or the strongest in all Fiction, not even in his own verse. Eventually if Goku has enough raw power he'll negate Alien X abilities just by screaming/raising his ki lol cuz that's how db works
@@TheStickAnimatorFrFr For now I guess, just u wait :). Also stop using Zeno he hasn't really proved himself yet, we don't know the depths of his power or if he truly is the most powerful in db verse. He's not someone to put in debates yet as he needs more time to prove himself
Yall keeping forgetting that chromastone is a master manipulator of life energy aka "ki" and saiyans use their ki to power up so chromastone can just absorb (and yes there is no limit to absorbing life energy) their ki and drain em out Clockwork can stop the flow of time and punch goku infinite times, Feedback (omniverse last episode) absorbed the energy of the big bang so that means feeback absorbed infinite energy, so a regular blast from feedback would obliterate goku Atomix can manipulate atoms to a sub quantum level, and can possibly create a nuclear bomb strong enough to finish of goku Gravattack can manipulate gravity and create a black hole to spaghettify goku
