totally agree with you! on backswing i imagine my left bicepts push my left breast back to the right breast position. helps bigger turn and avoid shaft's crossover at the top of the swing. thanks for your reminding me of this valuable techniq.
Dashful is right about the right leg straightening in the backswing... I started doing this and got a fuller turn and started hitting it better in my 50s.
The right leg has to straighten in the back-swing. When you apply pressure on the ground with the right foot (as you must do to stabilize when the swing when the right arm flex back to the advocated position) it causes the right leg to straighten.The "lower body" method advocated here will only restrict the back-swing.
Very true... Ben hogan THE name is now no more than a marketing tool.. everyone says what Ben hogan did BUT no one swings like hogan or even their best student. Will all these instructors stop misleading the public and concentrate on what their own swing and theories are instead od relating to Ben hogan WHICH they do not know...
If a player allows the shoulder to rotate in it's joint in the take away the club will remain square within the swing angle. Though the club will be pointing 90 degrees to the right of the target, when you swing through it will align itself to the target. this has nothing to do with opening or shutting the clubface. It is caused by the joint rotating in the shoulder. This exercise is best done with just the right arm on the club whilst keeping it staight.
@bobbypaulb yeah, I agree - depending on the accuracy of the frames per second the vintage clip is shot, duplicated and rendered in, I don't know how with any certainty they can determine club head speed with that as a source. (Maybe they could if the footage was some of the high definition video used today, but not 50 year-old film footage.)
You do realize Jim mcClean researched this stuff about Hogan completely ,especially from Ken Venturi, who learned directly from Hogan and Nelson. Hogan did transition left just before finishing his back swing but it all happens fast, so no he is not totally wrong about the take away and right leg in the video. Hogan did not stay on his left side period.
I just figured out that Hogans one piece take away was simply turning the shoulders to move the arms, this one piece take away is the same as tigers, Hogan generated a lot of power from his core
@bobbypaulb Of course she never saw him in his prime. But she got her info. straight from the source. She merely commented that, despite his smaller stature, he often out-drove his peers in long ball exhibitions that were held before the commencement of PGA events. BTW, peers in his prime were Nelson, Snead and Demaret. Moreover, neither Nicklaus or Trevino played with him in his prime-If you're thinking of 1960 Cherry Hills, Hogan hadn't done anything in 4 years. Trevino came 6 years later.
most people need to seriously get over the minutia and to go out ,practice and find their own swing. Hogan was a small man with a small,flat swing so if your modeling on that, good luck to you. Oddly enough because their are so many moving parts in the swing and so many anatomical differences between one human and the next, Mike Dunaway was actually the longest hitter of the 70s and 80s and never flew his right elbow up, it was always tucked tight. There are probably a hundred different explanations for his power but each athlete is uniquely different in body and temperament, you cannot narrow it down to one or two things though engineers and people living in their heads desperately want that.
@bobbypaulb Sorry, factually incorrect. Hogan often won long ball exhibitions at tour events, according to Kris Tschetter in her book, "Mr. Hogan, the Man I Knew."
Very few people possess Hogan’s flexibility and biomechanics. Keep chasing something you don’t have and never will for the rest of your mid 90s shooting life!
@bobbypaulb Comparing Hogan's swing technique to today's long ball hitters' technique is apples and oranges and misses the point. Hogan's main focus in golf was to win. And his golf swing reflected THAT as a priority. Kris Tschetter was just noting that it just so happened that he held his own off the tee. Had there been a long ball sport in his day, he obviously didn't have the size for it, but if he did, I'm sure he would have adjusted his elbow technique accordingly.
he's wrong about restricting the movement of the lower body. He mentions this because of his incorrect X factor idea. The right leg looks like it leans left because the right hip rotates behind him allowing him to turn withiut swaying. Mcleans arm position at the top is also incorrect as Hogan advocated a flat swing with the arms connected to the body. Not the disconnected high hands position that jim is showing. he may have studied hogans swing but he doesnt understand it.
I have seen his videos. I assumed you felt he stayed left or else this video, which may have an issue with you but should not be consdered totally wrong. As I also stated McClean researched this completely and didn't just try and interpret. most of the pro golfers turn back without lateral and sway movement and transfer at or just before the top. Any way I mostly agree with you then. Have you seen the lag n load take on Hogan now that is funny.
Get the entire body moving during the swing, To do this simply role your entire left foot inward and stop at the top of your swing. On the downward swing simply role you right foot inward to finish the swing.This simple swing concept will coordinate your body to manufacture the perfect Hogan swing. Try it and you will like it,
Well presented video, however it appears as though Mr. Mclean is culling information from Mr. Hogan which fits his own rationales rather than adhering to Mr. Hogan's message. Much of this information is from "Power Golf" the swing Mr. Hogan is best known for is different, i.e. directives such as the forward press. "Power Golf" very well may have been Mr. Hogan's antithesis and ought to be regarded as such.
132 swing speed? Not in mph that's for sure. LOL! Not even the longest hitters of today get much over 125. Hogan was maybe 115 and that's a maybe. With heavier and shorter clubs 115mph swing speed was a tremendous amount back then and still faster than the 112mph tour average of today.
Richard Mcfadden I disagree I think you need to read the five books, but these videos help visualize the fundamentals in motion for us that are visual learners.
