I live in New York City and I've been in the Queensborough Plaza subway station many times. I did a recreation of this scene and people looked at me like I was nuts. It was well worth it.
@@p70581 Just bear in mind that the Queensboro Plaza station is above ground. It's Queens Plaza that's underground. Clearly, the filmmakers didn't know the difference.
Apparently the Alpha/Omega missile had a warhead capable of maintaining a cascade-effect thermonuclear reaction that resulted in total atmospheric ignition. This couldn't be because of a "Cobalt casing" as Taylor said as that would have only enhanced the beta and gamma count and the half-life of the contaminated fallout, as it was detonated at ground level. In Escape, Zira stated: 'We saw the rim of the Earth melt'. This is the same type of feared effect that was expressed by many during the first atomic test in 1945.
Why weren't those crazy mutants more curious about the origins of Taylor and Brent and how they managed to travel through time? Wouldn't they revere them as part of the generation that made the bomb?
Great questions…I would think they would be more cool with Brent and Taylor ..but I kind of like that they were pricks …was rooting for the apes to annihilate them because how they treated Brent and Taylor
I’ve always thought that I felt like mutants were quite stupid with how they handled the whole situation… like not one time did they ask “hey man how the fuck are you a non mutant human that’s able to talk?”
These are excellent questions. I think it showed hubris on their part. Brent and Taylor were unique but they were not impressed. Even the time traveler aspect shows they are mentally powerful but not scientifically inclined. Religious zealots worshipping the most destructive creation of science.
@@A_RU-vid_Commenter I love that social commentary aspect of the film and was meant as a shot at the arms build up by USA & Russia. It was a creative way to also take a shot at blindly follow the religious/ or political leader type of thing. No questions asked.
I hope one day fox releases all deleted/alternate/extended footage for the first 3(3 beacuse Conquest and Battle supossedly already have all their footage released except for the deleted opening scene in Conquest) movies, I have become a big fan of these movies, I'm really excited about new footage and I'm really interested if there is anything new for Beneath because of all the different ideas they had for that one.
I met Linda Harrison ten years ago at a convention here in NYC. I grilled her about any scenes she could remember that were cut from Beneath and she said the trek with Brent through Manhattan was a lot longer during filming but was edited out from the final print. I guess we'll never see it at this late date. She did have a very good sense of humor. I reminded her Grand Central Station was only a stone"s throw away and she replied "Yes, I know. I haven't seen it in 2000 years!"
Beneath... is my favorite of the ape sequels. and it's interesting to see these extended/deleted scenes and how different the film might have been with these in the movie thanks foe posting these much appreciated Auckland New Zealand 2023
I am still looking for the deleted scene where the mutants escort Brent and they pass by a group of mutant children playing and singing "Ring-A-Ring-O-Neutrons". I've seen a still photo of it but no footage.
Steve the scene is kind of in there. Its when they are escorting brent to be interrogated. Its shown the the wall/view screen its in black and white and somewhat transparent you have got to be really paying attention and know its upcoming. Hope this helps.
That’s not in available cuts anymore? Interesting. I remember it being an extremely quick part of a scene, just a couple seconds. Or am I misremembering it from the Marvel Comic adaptation?
@@brucedavis76, yes, but the children's dialog is missing. It was originally to be its own scene but in the end was just included as a silent projection.
Actually, the music is lifted from Jerry Goldsmith's original POTA (1968) score-a superb score, to be sure (I think it's Goldsmith's best), but it's not Rosenmann. The compiler of this footage has not actually added anything new; rather, he or she reedited scenes from Beneath's theatrical release and overlaid selections from Goldsmith's score to make it look new/extended. CORRECTION: This was a reel put together previewing the film for theater owners (i.e., the National Association of Theater Owners [NATO]) before the film was complete. That explains the use of Goldsmith's score and alternate dialog/camera angles.
I remember in Heston's book, he did roughly a 3-5 minute speech during the trial sequence, and a few minutes when he was in the cage with Nova. They ended up on the cutting room floor. It would of made the movie 120 minutes, instead of 112.
This is really cool. Some of the scenes are extended by only a few seconds. The gorilla shooting through the hole in the cell is a new one on me and apparently they decided to re-do/re-edit the ending before the releasing the movie - go to 11:50 and you will see what I mean.
There is basically nothing new or extended here. Rather, this is a reedited collage of scenes from the released film; it's the changed editing that makes some items appear new or extended. Furthetmore, the compiler of this montagehas added selections from Jerry Goldsmith's original POTA (1968) score to this mishmash.
Planet of the apes is the only movie series were they did the sequels right . A different story to each movie to keep interest No woke . No covid . No one getting canceled ... And we got great films . P.c has killed the entire movie format ......
The Ursus speech is definitely an alternative cut. The steam bath is different. The mutant church service has different music. And what the soldier said at the end was not in the final release. So hats off. Good job.
The fight scene in the cell is the same except in the cut they are playing dramatic music, where in the movie you hear the telepathic humming noise from the black mutant's mind
That's right. I missed that one. And probably a few others. But the point is these clips ARE different from the final movie version and are not on the DVD like some people here claim.
I liked so many aspects of this film...the way New York City looked after a nuclear war. How Ursus wanted revenge for the soldiers that had been killed. The fact that the mutants would embrace an atomic bomb as a symbol of their God. But it fell short somewhere and I could never put my finger on what that was.
I liked Ursus himself. He was so cool he should have been in a sequel. But thanks to you know who. Damn Charlton Heston. Damn him to... I won't finish it since it would be disrespectful to someone who actually is dead, that never would have happened. But I digress. Ursus was awesome. Military training sequence was awesome. Big army march was awesome. Gorilla soldiers busting things up underground was awesome. Shooting up the mutants was awesome. To me the mutants were the villains and the gorillas were the heroes. Gorilla soldiers using battering ram was awesome. Gorilla soldiers scaling bomb was awesome. Not so awesome. James Franciscus. He didn't phone it in. He mailed it in. The interrogation. If the Mutants knew when Brent was lying, why did they stupidly ask question they knew he wouldn't know the answers to. Long drawn out underground subway scenes. Mutants didn't get rifle butts in the face. I really hated them. Stupid ending suggested by Heston. Ursus should have killed Taylor AND Brent, and survived. A small army of mutants should have been in the final scene with the gorillas shooting them all up. Well that's my 2 cents worth.
yes there is a sauna scene is in the original. The dialogue is a little different, but there is a sauna scene. I know it was removed when it premiered on CBS back in the early 70s.
I think BATTLE OF THE PLANET OF APES better than BENEATH PLANET OF APES (OBLIVION...wouldn't want to see the Earth destroyed).... THE LORD HOLY STAR won't let that happen (THE GOOD SHEPHERD) and the Last King of Israel (Bad Shepherd)...Read Zechariah Chap 10 and up.... Think about it!! HALALUYA - TAO (GENDER PEACE)....
All of the action in these films takes place in a small segment of the remains of America, which always left me wondering what the rest of the World was like...
I do like some of the new characters introduced in this movie, especially General Ursas. It's too bad that they blew up the planet killing off all of the characters which later we find out in the third sequel that Cornelius and Zira survived by traveling back in time in Taylor's space ship, but then they kill off both characters near the end of that movie. For me, I will always love the orginal POTA more so then it's sequels.
+Movies For Newbies Thx!! I had read about and seen the hybrid child but didn't know about the others. What an even better movie it would have been if those scenes were shot. So wish they didn't capitulate to Heston's request that the earth (and the possibility he'd have to appear in any more sequels) was blown up. Would have liked to have seen how the movies would have developed.
+Movies For Newbies In the script i posted the link to, the ending is different. Brent is shot but doesn't die. Ursus BITES him on the arm and forces him to drop his gun. Taylor doesn't intentionally blow the bomb. Ursus pumps a clip of bullets into him and he falls on the detonation switch. Zaius's screaming face fills the screen as it "whites out". Then, under the end narration, the image on the theater screen begins to brown and melt as if the film itself is being destroyed in the holocaust. Their is only black screen after that, no end credits. i wish they'd shot this one.
+Movies For Newbies Wow, I can't believe that the same studio (20th Century Fox) did the exact same bullshit with Alien 3 in the late 80s. No wait, its 20th Century Fox. They're cheap bastards short on brains instead of cash. To be honest this is typical of 20th Century Fox and studios like them: "What, you have a unique movie you want to shoot? Sure we'll back it I guess. Wait, is this a sequel? We'll totally back it! But we can only do it on a shoestring budget, unless you're famous."
Yes. It's a clever bit of reediting to make things look new and/or extended. EDIT: Sorry, I was wrong. This was evidently a reel sent to the National Association of Theater Owners (NATO) ahead of the film's release, before final editing and music scoring, to promote the movie and interest theaters in running the film. That explains why bits of the soundtrack and a few camera angles are different from the final film. It also explains why Jerry Goldsmith's score for POTA (1968) is used throughout this preview.
@cw9817 In hindsight I still like it though. Now that I rewayxhed it 7 years later. I think it's really cool a channel dedicated to planet of the apes did these type or videos hahahahahahhaha
No different actor. McDonald is played by Hari Rhodes (conquestPOTA)and Austin Stoker (battlePOTA). The black mutant is played by Don Pedro Colley, who also played the hologram in George Lucas' THX 1138.
@@Ashworth6 Austin Stoker also voiced one of the astronauts in the animated Return to the Planet of the Apes series. He was also the star of John Carpenter's Assault on Precinct Thirteen, which makes him doubly awesome...
