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Beretta AR 70/90 to 500yds: Practical Accuracy 

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The Beretta AR70/90 draws lineage to the SIG SG530, which was a joint project between SIG (not Sig Sauer) and Beratta to create a next-generation 5.56-.223 type rifle to compete with the M16. While the partnership project ultimately dissolved, both SIG and Beretta used the blueprints of the SG530 to generate their own 5.56 rifle designs, SIG with the SG540 and SG550... and Beretta with the AR70.
Years later the system was modernized to the AR 70/90 to also integrate a host of improvements, including the STANAG magazine, and was formally adopted for Italian Army military use in 1990.
Within the Italian military, the AR70/90 is cherished as an absolutely reliable machine that will never fail, and many Italian soldiers prefer it over the more accurate, but also more fragile ARX160.
So how did the rifle do on Practical Accuracy? We find out.
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@9HoleReviews
@9HoleReviews 2 года назад
Italian Soldiers and service members, we want to hear from you, how accurate was your AR 70/90? In speaking with an Italian Paratrooper (Matteo), he told us that the cherished quality of the AR70/90 is it's reliability and simplicity. He said that the rifle wasn't bad for 250m targets. "it's a rifle that you can count on, I used an SCP variant as a paratrooper and it always fired when I needed it to. I've personally destroyed 2x ARX160. One malfunction and the other where I broke the stock hinge area." "You can throw, hit jump and use [the AR 70/90] even like a shovel and it will not break. During airborne jumps, I saw an ARX160 break in half... but when you have the SCP (AR 70/90 para variant), your leg is what will break in half instead!" So Italian Service Memebers, tell us!
@matteoorlandi856
@matteoorlandi856 2 года назад
arx 160 is junk, here in italy we make a lot of jokes about the "tonno" (tunna) rifle, expecially the fact that it cost an absurd ammount of money for the army that are totally out of mind for a rifle with that great ammount of polymers in it, beretta is making too much money at the expenses of the state and so, the cityzen.
@lucacolombo7603
@lucacolombo7603 2 года назад
I was issued the SC70/90 version for mountain troops. Really sturdy and reliable rifle, easy to maintain and disassemble. Yes, the carryhandle and bipod are a bit bulky and redundant, so I took them off and carried them in my backpack basically all the time. It looked more FNCesque (therefore cooler) that way, and of course having a couple ounces less to carry in your arms was definitely a pro. Also, it was easier to aim without that ugly handle in the way.
@cromakey
@cromakey 2 года назад
I have used the standard fixed stock rifle for one year, and it was reliable and accurate (battlefield accuracy) up to 200-250 meters. ARX is not robust as this one.
@danielgreen6547
@danielgreen6547 2 года назад
@@matteoorlandi856 Maybe it is just me, but it seems that almost every new design (from ALL manufacturers) is absurdly priced, and arguably not as durable as the stuff that came out during the Cold War. This is only my opinion, but it seems like a lot more care and consideration was made for these types of things when it was thought that another big, giant multi-nation "world war" was just around the corner.
@superfamilyallosauridae6505
@superfamilyallosauridae6505 2 года назад
When you watch an AK under slow motion, you can actually see the opposite force from the gas pushing the piston at the gas block. It pushes the barrel down and whips it around. It's really as simple as having moving parts over/connected to your barrel beyond the receiver. AR15 does not have this, so it's easier to make generally more accurate.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 2 года назад
I loved the can of genuine Italian cuisine you had sitting next to you while doing this. You really do your detailed research, and it shows with your homage to whichever country's rifle your using.
@9HoleReviews
@9HoleReviews 2 года назад
If it weren't for live ammo, we'd have a more lively conversation with a box of Franzia wine with an invitation to you if you brought your favorite chucky cheese pizza pie.
@Excalibur01
@Excalibur01 2 года назад
Olive Garden is the best Italian food
@Seth9809
@Seth9809 2 года назад
No no no, Throwback is authentic! Regular can is Americano bastardization!
@AshyGr33n
@AshyGr33n 2 года назад
Chef Boyardee! The master!
@einrauser6103
@einrauser6103 2 года назад
"It's in the tin, I don't have to heat it up." My man! It is a shame folks just don't understand!
@DonPatrono
@DonPatrono 2 года назад
I never served, but all my friends who did attested to the fact that the 70/90 is a battlefield gun: highly reliable and nigh indestructible. As for accuracy, they told me that they consistently trained at 250mt and often 300, and it was considered pretty optimal, but beyond that it was supposed to be for suppression only.
@bojanmilankovic
@bojanmilankovic 2 года назад
Worth noting that when I was in the Canadian Army, the 20' C7 was doctrinally only considered effective to 300m in the hands of an individual and 600m in the hands of a section of soldiers engaging a singular target. Obviously, the C7 can stretch its legs further, but militaries generally recognize that 300m is the upper limit for effective rifle fire in combat. I'm certain that the 70/90 is less accurate than AR-15-pattern rifles, but even if it is, a 3.5-4MOA rifle is still good enough out to 300m. Anyway, the 70/90 is cool as hell.
@lucalirani7039
@lucalirani7039 2 года назад
Currently Serving in Italy, used It for a while. Extremely reliable -extremely heavy...a Rugged rifle. Talking about precision, i Remember shooting an entire Mag in a 3" Square. The distance was 100 meters (prone shooting with the issued bipod) and i'm not as good as Mr. Chan: i suppose that something went "wrong" in the assembly process. Not that the rifle Is capable of assolute precision: It was designed and adopted while the Italian army was made vastly by conscripts....everybody can understand that (with Italian's defense budgets, which are significantly lower than USA defense budgets) we were looking for a reliable, simple and enough precise rifle. Great fan of yours, keep shooting! (Hope i wrote in an undestandable english...it's been a while!)
@9HoleReviews
@9HoleReviews 2 года назад
Grazie for the feedback! I think the AR70/90 suits the Italian philosophy with conscripts well.
@dbmail545
@dbmail545 2 года назад
@@9HoleReviews indeed, a good adversary's rifle for the AK74.
@Dalibor567
@Dalibor567 2 года назад
Love how we can see bullet trail when the image is stabilized. Awesome.
@WayStedYou
@WayStedYou 2 года назад
The Italians will be pissed that Chef Boyardee is near their rifle.
@JayKayKay7
@JayKayKay7 2 года назад
I always remember the old mechanics joke about engine design. The American says we will build it with 25 parts and make it cheap. The Japanese engineer states we will use 35 parts and make it with precision. The German says he can do it with 18 parts and make it sturdy. The Italian designer uses 50 parts but it will be beautiful.
@folterknecht1768
@folterknecht1768 2 года назад
When it comes to mechanical engineering and workmanship just go to Japan, Germany or Czech Rep.
@LeutnantJoker
@LeutnantJoker 2 года назад
Somehow I doubt the Germans would be the one using the least parts...
@gabrielemagnabosco8926
@gabrielemagnabosco8926 2 года назад
The swiss says "we will build it with all of the above and 150 parts"
@Annoying_Dragons
@Annoying_Dragons 2 года назад
German would be: I need 50 parts but it also works as a refrigerator.
@randymagnum143
@randymagnum143 2 года назад
Beautifully made parts, assembled into the most unreliable p.o.s. you've ever seen. That's not true though. The parts themselves are typically poorly made.
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz 2 года назад
9-Hole is the perfect balance of class and professionalism mixed with eating canned ravioli while talking about an Italian rifle 😁
@d8889
@d8889 2 года назад
Here in Italy most of those who have used the AR70/90 for service regret it's been replaced by the ARX160. It was heavier but reliable and indestructible, features that don't seem to matter much anymore. Several specimens are now available for sale to the public, transformed into semi-auto in accordance with Italian law. The prices, however, are unfortunately quite high
@wancelemuel6633
@wancelemuel6633 2 года назад
Ah yes, the unholy tuna.
@cookie5535
@cookie5535 2 года назад
ARX is extraordinarily reliable more accurate lighter and allows use of optics and nv devices easiet
@einsteincat5298
@einsteincat5298 2 года назад
@@cookie5535 did you not read the pinned comment? Specifically the part where it says "on parachute jumps, I saw an ARX break in half"
@n9necrypt777
@n9necrypt777 2 года назад
AR70/90 High priced hot garbage 🗑 😒... I'd take a Arx 160 over it anyday.
@Galf506
@Galf506 2 года назад
@@einsteincat5298 let's be honest here: all armies have horror stories about rifles that might not exactly be accurate. IDK if the ARX is good or bad but it's EXTREMELY typical for soldiers to diss the "modern gun". Look at the G36.
@chocoshot2472
@chocoshot2472 2 года назад
One of the oddest-looking iron sights I've ever seen. Quite unique, fitting for such a rifle!
@DonPatrono
@DonPatrono 2 года назад
fun fact: the carry handle is detacheable and not integral to the rear sight. It can be replaced by a picatinny section to install optics/dots. In fact, if you remove the carry handle, the rifle looks like a slightly chonkier FNC
@hoppinggnomethe4154
@hoppinggnomethe4154 2 года назад
nope. that's the carry handle, not the sights.
@opie7afe
@opie7afe 2 года назад
however the carry handle does have sights on it...but they are weird and shitty imo...front and rear sight on a carry handle.im guessing they were for very close range.
@patronamix5878
@patronamix5878 2 года назад
It's always nice when an Italian gun makes its way to your channel. 🇮🇹 💖
@tedhodge4830
@tedhodge4830 2 года назад
BM59 next? :)
@adamhoppe1168
@adamhoppe1168 2 года назад
For kids of the early nineties this is the the "other" gun my gi joes used, classic! Great to see!
@cromakey
@cromakey 2 года назад
Well would you look at that! My service rifle (2003-2004)
@jacklynch3333
@jacklynch3333 2 года назад
@@northpointaxe6167 was it Italy?
@CCXRS7
@CCXRS7 2 года назад
So how did it do in active service for you?
@cromakey
@cromakey 2 года назад
@@northpointaxe6167 Italian army. This rifle was the one before the ARX 160
@cromakey
@cromakey 2 года назад
@@CCXRS7 this wasn't a rifle you would expect perform like a modern AR type. Up to 250 meters was pretty spot on and very reliable.
@arguy3297
@arguy3297 2 года назад
@@northpointaxe6167 a Beretta rifle and you have to ask which nation adopted it for service?
@mtgAzim
@mtgAzim 2 года назад
Stabilization is a welcome addition. We can see the rounds and impacts so much better!
@jonathansmith7306
@jonathansmith7306 2 года назад
I think that fake Italian canned food interfered with the rifle's operation
@stevemc6010
@stevemc6010 2 года назад
7:13 Clanky STANAG noises make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside
@tiortedrootsky
@tiortedrootsky 2 года назад
Image stabilization is a gift from god.
@edoardocarosio1852
@edoardocarosio1852 Год назад
Ciao! My father has one demilitarised AR70/90 (semi auto only) with a very nice barrel. It can shoot decent 2 inches groups with iron sights at 100 meters. It’s a heavy rifle but it’s really rugged and sturdy and recoil is very soft. Greetings from Italy! Felice anno nuovo!
@talscorner3696
@talscorner3696 2 года назад
I'm Italian and I've never ever seen Chef Boyardee ravioli xD Though now I kinda want to try them, for science.
@9HoleReviews
@9HoleReviews 2 года назад
oh i'm ashamed of it if you try it! It tastes like MRE "italian food", which I used to keep between my IBA and my body when on patrol to warm up and eat when we were pulling security. Side note, the medics don't like that because if you get shot there's red sauce mixed into stuff.
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 2 года назад
@@9HoleReviews lol, "he's bleeding out, oh god, there are chunks of flesh EVERYWHERE" it's ravioli...
@talscorner3696
@talscorner3696 2 года назад
@@9HoleReviews I mean... Now trying it is a matter of principle xD
@Bran_Nuthin
@Bran_Nuthin 2 года назад
@@9HoleReviews 😂
@MrHunter95x
@MrHunter95x 2 года назад
In México the Beretta 70/90 and the Arx 160 are the principal rifles in mostly all police corps in the country, local and state police.
@jeroendesterke9739
@jeroendesterke9739 2 года назад
The variations of the bullets' paths are amazing.
@pontiacmaniac2
@pontiacmaniac2 2 года назад
Not sure why, but that thing to my eye, is just a damn good looking rifle.
@c0pp3
@c0pp3 2 года назад
So cool! I've since I saw the AR70 in my old gun books as a kid I wanted one. Thanks for making this video!
@hokodo
@hokodo 2 года назад
Same here.
@australovenatortomino_1741
@australovenatortomino_1741 2 года назад
First time ever seeing this rifle and all I can think of is a disfigured child of an FNC and an M16.
@RosaParksWasWyt
@RosaParksWasWyt 2 года назад
Looks like an Argentine fara 83 to me. COD Cold War vibes
@Frens03
@Frens03 2 года назад
It’s actually based on the Sig rifle. Fun fact is that beretta asked colt to mfg the m16 under license.
@bomberharris9322
@bomberharris9322 2 года назад
Now that you mentioned it, it does. It looks like it has some stoner 63 in it too but that's kinda cheating, isn't it?
@piter6076
@piter6076 Год назад
​​@@Frens03 wrong ...there was an initial collaboration beetwin beretta and sig.
@paairmen7458
@paairmen7458 2 года назад
Hands down it’s not a marksman but you still push it to its limit great work Henry and spotter
@afd19850
@afd19850 2 года назад
Great content as always. Would love to see an L85 put through its paces
@humansvd3269
@humansvd3269 2 года назад
Good luck getting one.
@Paddy-zn4oo
@Paddy-zn4oo 2 года назад
@@humansvd3269 The better question is why would you want one
@sootyjim
@sootyjim 2 года назад
@@Paddy-zn4oo - Falling for the usual "L85 suxs, hUr dUr Hur" line eh? Ever used one, especially the A2 or A3 variants? The L85 was always an accurate rifle, it's now matured into a reliable one too and has a proven track record in combat. What is often forgotten by L85 detractors (who largely have never even touched one for real) is that the AR15 platform also had a terrible reputation when it was first released, but unlike the L85, the AR15 platform has been produced in such large numbers that issues were identified and dealt with sooner. I've put thousands of rounds through various members of the SA80 family and I've had few issues that wouldn't also be expected from any other military-issued Western weapon system.
@fredlister5077
@fredlister5077 2 года назад
I purchased my AR70 back in 1994. Its one hell of an accurate rifle I can still remember trying to find mags back then. I paid $300 bucks for one at a gun show, it was the only one I could find after searching for 3 years. I am gonna go dig my AR 70 out today. Its been awhile since I have touched it.
@ReapingRose115
@ReapingRose115 2 года назад
Hey, it's a pretty unique looking rifle in my eyes and in spite of the difficulties getting it under par, I'll bet that with better wind conditions, it'll handle things better. But you done did good shootin', only hope to see more from our beloved 9 Hole Duo *Also that subtle pained look from Josh as you consumed Chef Boyardee made my day*
@RARufus
@RARufus 2 года назад
They should have at least made it Spaghettios…with meatballs. It would be a step up from Chef Boyardee.
@jarink1
@jarink1 2 года назад
I've always thought it resembled an FNC with a carry handle bolted on top.
@matteoorlandi856
@matteoorlandi856 2 года назад
i don't know, probably the rifle would perform better with 62 grains bullets, because here in italy it's a well known fact that they shoot better with 62 grains...
@matteoorlandi856
@matteoorlandi856 2 года назад
ho well... it's a kit rifle... that explain a lot.
@Seth9809
@Seth9809 2 года назад
Rifle is 1/7 twist?
@GianmarcoLatcovich
@GianmarcoLatcovich 2 года назад
@@Seth9809 yes, 70/90 are 1:7.
@MrRiccardo1965
@MrRiccardo1965 Месяц назад
@@matteoorlandi856 yes you are right 1/7 twist , perfect with 62 grs , specially over 150/200 yds , it a good chanel and great shooter but I do not understand why they have used 55 grs bullet , mamma mia ! 😃
@Xerxes1688
@Xerxes1688 2 года назад
22:05 A lot of people say the same thing about the FN FN-C, which is very similar mechanically to the AR-70/90.
@metall1969
@metall1969 Год назад
I owned an FNC sporter .223. Great rifle with good accuracy. I shot it mostly suppressed with a 4-16x scope on it. It had a terrible factory trigger with a pull weight similar to the factory trigger in my FN Scar 17s.
@kurtbogle2973
@kurtbogle2973 2 года назад
Remember that although the M14 can be made to shoot 1 moa, a stock M14 is a 4 moa rifle. They were loos as a goose.
@MaxwellAerialPhotography
@MaxwellAerialPhotography 2 года назад
The M14 is 4 moa on a good day. A lot of them are worse than that.
@randymagnum143
@randymagnum143 2 года назад
@@MaxwellAerialPhotography unless the crown has been destroyed by overzealous cleaning, a cigarette box cut up and used as shim between the stock and receiver would tighten up 98% of them.
@TheSonsOfSimon
@TheSonsOfSimon 2 года назад
I saw the headline and initially I thought it was the ARX 100! 🤩
@alexglenn2122
@alexglenn2122 2 года назад
They already did a video with the ARX if you want to check it out
@TheSonsOfSimon
@TheSonsOfSimon 2 года назад
@@alexglenn2122 nice! I’ll look for it.
@tburrows357
@tburrows357 2 года назад
A true battle field rifle. Ultimately I prefer reliability over accuracy and this rifle for a 5.56mm is one of the best. Still prefer the Swiss rifles but this ugly mutt always had a place whenever I seen one. I am intrigued though what the results had been if you ran 62 or 77 gr projectiles through this beast. No need for a video but if you guys did do it I would love to hear about the result.
@oldtop459
@oldtop459 2 года назад
It’s neat to see the targets with the image stabilizer
@dimensione_Automobili
@dimensione_Automobili 13 дней назад
This rifle was born from a collaboration between SIG and Beretta in the 70s. SIG insisted on the roller locking, Beretta did not, only to then agree with Beretta. After the divorce between the two companies, the AR 70/90 and the SIG 550 were born, which is practically the Swiss version. I used it during my military service in former Yugoslavia, and I can say that apart from the weight, it was a good rifle.
@fabrizioviotti6872
@fabrizioviotti6872 2 года назад
I think the rifle was a bit handicapped by being a kit gun, non italian mil spec in barrel and other parts and by ammos. Italian Army uses ammunitons loaded with 62 grs. ss109 ball and, i think, a hotter load then the Magtech which, as i know, are quite low in performance. In nearly 30 years of shooting i never remember to have seen those vortex in air caused by flying bullets. If i'm not wrong for quite a years, in the '90 our army used Hirtenberger ammos in their AR, and then Fiocchi. It would be nice to try with similar loads. I' d like to see the readings of seedometer on those Magtech ammos but i bet they are too slow and too light for that wind. Anyway, though a cousin of the swiss StG-90 the italian one is a cheaper and less refined rifle. A good rifle for WW3, robust and reliable but not an expensive and elegant rifle as the SIG.
@Ihasanart
@Ihasanart 2 года назад
That "vortex" is just swirl from atmospherics and the light being in the right direction, if you've never encountered it, then you've not shot in many varied conditions at long range, you see it all the time depending on lighting and air pressure with good glass. It has nothing to do with the ammo.
@tedhodge4830
@tedhodge4830 2 года назад
From what I've seen in chronograph tests, Magtech 62 grain has pretty similar velocities to SS109/M855, so I assume it's pretty close to NATO 5.56 pressures. Its not like he was shooting Fiocci or Wolf. But again, that's their 62 gr load.
@tedhodge4830
@tedhodge4830 2 года назад
Also, they used Magtech 62 grain in their M16A4 video and it matched the BDC on the carry handle perfectly, it was one of their best runs with iron sights to date for any rifle.
@fabrizioviotti6872
@fabrizioviotti6872 2 года назад
@@Ihasanart The maximum distance i was used to shoot is 600 m. with iron sights In a private shooting range in the alps and no. i never noted them.
@kurtbogle2973
@kurtbogle2973 2 года назад
My first centerfire rifle was a 03A3 Springfield. It was a 4 moa rifle, and it was a bolt gun. Most of the people who buy a AR70 want it because it's a AR70 not for outstanding accuracy.
@tomp538
@tomp538 2 года назад
What a hawk-eye. In my teens I could not hit 300 yards with the basic training M16.
@ClaymoreClay101
@ClaymoreClay101 2 года назад
I think the above average accuracy of the AR-15 comes from its use of a barrel extension that is threaded on the barrel and then pinned. The bolt head spaces off the extension rather than a trunnion or receiver which is common in many other firearms. Its much easier to machine and achieve tight tolerances on the barrel extension which can be discarded during QA than it is for something like a receiver or trunnion which is a much more integral part of the firearm.
@immikeurnot
@immikeurnot 2 года назад
The gas piston being directly in line with the barrel does wonders for it, too. Pretty much all other autos run the piston parallel to the barrel, which means the gas system pushes the barrel in some direction.
@ClaymoreClay101
@ClaymoreClay101 2 года назад
@@immikeurnot Great point. I forgot about that design detail and how it might affect accuracy.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 года назад
Not too bad for 55gr in the wind. Good shooting.
@Jack72607
@Jack72607 2 года назад
Ar-70/90s are optimized for ss190/m885 so maybe try it with 62 grns next time 👍still I wouldn’t expect amazing accuracy out of a giant two lug long stroke rifle, it’s built for reliability and durability
@tedhodge4830
@tedhodge4830 2 года назад
I doubt it would have made much difference, so much as the flip sights. Henry has had trouble with all flip sight rifles - para FAL, M16A1, Galil, as well as red dots past 300 meters, for obvious reasons.
@giobenve
@giobenve 2 года назад
There is one important thing to consider: your Ar70/90 is not original due to the Us laws. It is assembled from a part kit that it can't be the same as a factory made gun. It doesn't had the same quality control as the Beretta made rifles so the precision is worse. I can assure you, being italian and speaking to many friends who use this rifle at the range, that the original beretta rifle performs much better than yours (a fan of you channel and a competitive shooter claimed watching your video: "i'm a worse shooter than him but I can do much better with my original ar 70/90"). Anyway, love your channel, keep going!
@charlesratcliff2016
@charlesratcliff2016 2 года назад
The AR/90 is beautiful Rifle
@dave-0295
@dave-0295 2 года назад
Nothing like the Pasta Fusil, with armor penne-tration rounds, making enemies upsetti spaghetti.
@Dashrendar7
@Dashrendar7 2 года назад
That's a spicy meatball 🤏 I agree with Henry, the ascetics are top notch 💯
@johnsanko4136
@johnsanko4136 2 года назад
Man, on shot #29, you could see it was bang on until the wind tossed it aside at the last moment like a wicked curve ball.
@afd19850
@afd19850 2 года назад
There is something truly special about all the 5.56 cold war/early 90’s type rifles. This looks far better than the ARX imho.
@andysworld9298
@andysworld9298 Год назад
I was literally eating cold chef boyardee as Henry pulled one out 😂 great choice
@tomkavulic7178
@tomkavulic7178 2 года назад
0:23 lol, a man of culture
@jamesbridges7750
@jamesbridges7750 2 года назад
That's a really good illustration of why wind drift and accuracy matter- if that had been a higher BC round or if the rifle had shot tighter it would have been a different story. Take a 5" group and shift it a quarter target- no big deal. A 20" group on the other hand- all of the sudden you miss more than you hit. Also have to wonder if that thing opens up significantly when its warm....
@antonioadinolfi4052
@antonioadinolfi4052 2 года назад
A well balanced review, as usual, allow me to say. Interesting and well present without a hint of bias, which is difficult especially these day. Well done and keep these videos coming 😄😄😄
@ilocosmetro
@ilocosmetro 2 года назад
Kept seeing this around when I was -binge- watching Narcos Mexico. Felt so familiar for some reason
@DonPatrono
@DonPatrono 2 года назад
oddly enough, Mexico did actually buy quite a lot of SC70/90
@nicklehne7486
@nicklehne7486 2 года назад
The official service rifle of Erusea btw..
@Pienimusta
@Pienimusta 2 года назад
Chef Boyardee, the master!
@TheRafaelRc1
@TheRafaelRc1 2 года назад
Sometimes i wonder when we gonna see a Valmet/Sako rifle in the Chanel 🤔
@Hixpanic
@Hixpanic 2 года назад
A bit of an odd question, but what would be y'all's thoughts on branching out to different styles of firearms? Is there a possibility shotguns (pump or semi-auto) or lever action firearms? I think it would be a fun watch to see you guys break them down! I'm loving the content you guys work so hard on, keep up the awesome work(:
@GianmarcoLatcovich
@GianmarcoLatcovich 2 года назад
I’ve used a 70/90 along with a M16A1 (both are avaible to civilians here in Italy) and they performed the same with Fiocchi, Sellier Bellot and American Eagle 55 FMJ. With (cheap) handloads both were 2/2.5 MOA rifles while they were 3.5/5 MOA with commercial ammo. The M16A1 were much lighter then the Beretta. Now I own a 550 that is accurate like an AR15, sturdy like Ar70/90 and reliable like an AK.
@9HoleReviews
@9HoleReviews 2 года назад
That's true about the M16A1, they aren't as accurate as the A2. I'm also an SG550 fan!
@GianmarcoLatcovich
@GianmarcoLatcovich 2 года назад
@@9HoleReviews I’m in love with the M16A2 or A4. I’m looking for a Colt AR15A4, but they are so common here. 20” inches AR are cool!
@9HoleReviews
@9HoleReviews 2 года назад
@@GianmarcoLatcovich agreed again! The A2 and A4 are really such well shooting rifles!
@kurtbogle2973
@kurtbogle2973 2 года назад
PASA PARK on a windy day gets swirls. The wind goes both directions at the same time. Left to right at the line right to left at the 600 yard line. Not often but sometimes it cancels its self out. When it doesn't it's difficult.
@jasonbabal
@jasonbabal 2 года назад
Great episode as usual. Chef Boyardee is from Cleveland though 😂
@rageinthekage4247
@rageinthekage4247 2 года назад
Those who have never been on a weeks long trip away from home that was not a holiday, will not comprehend how awesome a can of chunky soup or Chef Boyardee is after MRE's for days on end.
@9HoleReviews
@9HoleReviews 2 года назад
dude, the MRE apple sauce in an external pouch on a cold day (so it chills on its own). My fav snack when pulling security.
@paragorn206
@paragorn206 2 года назад
The time is right for RK62 with da proper ammo. Somebody, hook these gentlemen up!
@arvnryuga9793
@arvnryuga9793 2 года назад
Can we just appreciate Henry’s eating his food while being off screen 😂😂😂
@robjackson2731
@robjackson2731 2 года назад
Damn, that 500 yard target has jukes!
@Siskiyous6
@Siskiyous6 2 года назад
Air is a current, at Distance bullets can be forced down and up, and sideways, basically it is a 360 degree game with atmosphere. The farther you go out and as velocity decreases, you get the kind of effects you saw at 500.
@lovetoflylovetofly3843
@lovetoflylovetofly3843 2 года назад
Loved the can of ravioli!!! Should have set it out at the 150 yard target and sent a few more downrange!
@charlieb308
@charlieb308 2 года назад
Magazine reviews back in the old days had AR70/90 getting 3-4” with 5 shots groups
@victorpapaavp
@victorpapaavp 2 года назад
Yikes.... safest place to be is directly in front of the iron sights at 500 yards or more on a windy day, lol... Still, it seemed to do pretty well within that 400 yard envelope, those 55 grainers were all over the place in that crosswind.
@tedhodge4830
@tedhodge4830 2 года назад
That's always been the case for 55gr, especially with flip sights. See the Tavor, the M16A1, the M4, etc. It just drops off drastically after 400. 62 has about a 100m longer distance before it starts getting rough.
@carlogigli2606
@carlogigli2606 11 месяцев назад
WE USED TO CALL IT THE VIOLIN, BECAUSE IT SOUNDED GOOD !
@bigghoss762
@bigghoss762 2 года назад
Pizza in the morning, pizza in the evening, pizza at supper time. When pizza's on a rifle you can have pizza any time.
@anonimus370
@anonimus370 2 года назад
I was thinking "Hey, I don't remember Ian covering this gun, a miracle" but then double checked and nah, he has a video from 2017.
@francescoantoniomaiorano4331
@francescoantoniomaiorano4331 2 года назад
Finally! you guys are awesome, now i can flex that i'm made of the same italian sheet metal
@PavewayJDAM
@PavewayJDAM 2 года назад
I appreciate this review of the Mini-14.
@Lt._Nut
@Lt._Nut 2 года назад
I’ve never heard of this thing before. Very interesting!
@carlogigli2606
@carlogigli2606 11 месяцев назад
MY AR 70 WAS VERY ACCURATE, DID POPPED A SMOLL EMPTY COKE BOTTLE AT 200 METERS 1 SHOT. SGT GIGLI, BATTAGLIONE SAN MARCO FROM 88 TO 1992
@RonOhio
@RonOhio 2 года назад
It has always seemed to me that more reciprocating mass requires more weapon mass or more engineering effort to achieve the same accuracy as something like an M16.
@tedhodge4830
@tedhodge4830 2 года назад
It seemed to me that several piston guns have done exceptionally well on practical accuracy, notably the HK MR556 shot the hell out of the M4.
@tedhodge4830
@tedhodge4830 2 года назад
And the HK 416 isn't exactly designed or engineered as a piston gun, they basically slapped an anvil on the bcg in place of the gas key and called it a day.
@coldandaloof7166
@coldandaloof7166 2 года назад
OMG the Chef Boy R Dee scene was hilarious. I can't count the times I have cracked a can open and ate it straight out of the can lol.
@donh1572
@donh1572 2 года назад
It seems the 300 yard mark is the start of challenging shots on almost all the 9 hole videos
@9HoleReviews
@9HoleReviews 2 года назад
it's usually 400-450 when running light 55grain ball, 300 isn't usually an issue even with AKs
@donh1572
@donh1572 2 года назад
@@9HoleReviews it just seems the first miss starts at 300
@Paul_Sergeyev
@Paul_Sergeyev 2 года назад
Can you please try to shoot a machine gun at that range with a stabilized camera? It would be really interesting to see the spreading pattern with different length of bursts, and it would be also very interested if you places a camera at 500 yards mark to see how it sounds to be pinned down by a machine gun at that distance.
@KuroNekoKohi
@KuroNekoKohi 2 года назад
Would be cool, but most ranges don't allow for this type of shooting. Kinda do want to see this too
@ReverendMeat51
@ReverendMeat51 2 года назад
Unrelated, but are y'all going to bring back Josh's pistol/PCC course?
@riccardo.pratesi
@riccardo.pratesi 2 года назад
Beretta has designed deriving from the old AR70 and is calibrated for 250 or 400 meters as per NATO standard.
@aaronlucas2477
@aaronlucas2477 2 года назад
Henry- *eats cold Beefaroni* Josh- *visible suffering*
@OmegaEX
@OmegaEX 2 года назад
Chef Boyardi can got me. Genuine Italian cuisine.
@richarddeveas4537
@richarddeveas4537 2 года назад
The Chef Boyardee triggered me! Stop! Make it go away! LOL 😂
@haveaday1812
@haveaday1812 2 года назад
Wow. That thing is one step up from a Rock.
@onpsxmember
@onpsxmember 2 года назад
Josh you need a bit of distance to the microphone when out on the range. If it's clipping that can be improved later on by adjusting the level. This won't happen with a well adjusted limiter and you can have a base level for your videos.
@Rileysworld727
@Rileysworld727 2 года назад
I think that this rifle preformed adequately for the task considering the time period. From 1970 to 2000 Germany, Sweden, Switzerland, Poland, Belgium, France, Austria, England, and Spain were all on the same idea of using a super robust but not very accurate 5.56 rifle. Its only been the most recent adopted rifles produced in Europe that have been able to compete with the accuracy of the M-16.
@Zulgurub
@Zulgurub 2 года назад
Interesting. Definitely performs to the specs it was designed for- and no better.
@robmeglaughlin325
@robmeglaughlin325 2 года назад
I guess Henry has his post-apocalyptic groove on? Chowing down on Scavenged survival food?
@gastone2168
@gastone2168 2 года назад
I was waiting this!!
@wubaru
@wubaru 2 года назад
500 yard target be like “left right left right left right…..”
@rudyyarbrough5122
@rudyyarbrough5122 Год назад
I believe that any military rifle for the base soldier that is simple and reliable 200 meters is plenty. In any squad, there should be two or three marksmen that can hit things beyond 300 meters and they should have the same weapon but customized and with hand-loaded rounds. I was a Marine and with the M-14, hitting the standard military target bull's eye was easy. It was heavy and the cartridge was a lot bigger than a 5.56 but it was extremely reliable. To me reliability was number one and accuracy was number two.
@PyroBits
@PyroBits 2 года назад
That's exactly how I eat Chef Boyardee and everyone in my house judges me.
@CloudZ1116
@CloudZ1116 2 года назад
Rifle after failing the course: "Mi scusi, mi scusi!"
@jentrizle
@jentrizle 2 года назад
I swear on shot 30&37 you can see the projectile.
@arthurdsoto5751
@arthurdsoto5751 2 года назад
It's in the Tin "I don't have to Heat it Up" LOL!🤣🤣
@jorgechalub8930
@jorgechalub8930 2 года назад
Muy bueno tu vídeo saludos desde Argentina
@CAAStudios
@CAAStudios 2 года назад
Nearly 9 lbs and it's only a 5.56 rifle. No wonder this fell out of service. Cool piece of history though.
@doronstauber7285
@doronstauber7285 2 года назад
From my perspective. 3 companies = The very best firearms made. 1, 2, 3 Beretta, CZ, and Sig Sauer.
@AjackLee4
@AjackLee4 2 года назад
On the note of barrels, Many cheap AR barrels are good accuracy, however alot of the weird kit specific barrels are not made to the same spec. Take for example alot of the early AK barrels made. They were in many cases 1/10th the hardness of an original barrel. Sometimes US barrels are more accurate, but they also go the other way. Also using 55 grain doesn't help when it comes to the wind. I think the elevation misses could have been wind as well, being carried up or down by a tail wind.
@Johnnybanarna
@Johnnybanarna Год назад
Never seen that one before, looks like an AR/AK/FNC
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