Beretta's New Assault Rifle Platform - The NARP 

Simon Pegg is laughing right about now.

Shame.

Haha…great Hot Fuzz quote!

You're off the f'n chain😂

Funny but Narp is not its final name it's just its project name, which stands for "New Assault Rifle Platform" as it is still in the testing phase

Watching Ukraine war video its holly crap, the number of different M-4s to M-16 models countries gave Ukraine is mind boggling and the Canadian C7 & C8s also in action in Ukrainians hands.

Hell yeah AR33

around the world it seems like it's either that (see the MCX and this), the HK416 (so basically AR but piston), or an ACR knockoff (CZ BREN, FB MSBS Grot, Howa Type 20....)

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The AR-15 platform is great and I love it, but it's not so much that it's inherently the best design, and a lot more to do with the fact it has enjoyed over 50 years of refinements, developments and has the largest aftermarket of any weapon platform, affording the end user an almost limitless potential for customisation and tailoring. The same would likely be the case of any other rifle that had the same ubiquity and commonality.

Well its becuase thier is so much training done on it, so even if a gun is 10% better then the ar 15, it could loose out in adoption to another gun if that other gun requires less/no time in retraining. Also becuase of the Ar-15s popularity in the states its easily got the most man hours dedicated to after market parts, research and manufacture whereas other guns ur starting from scratch.

Problem, the everything evolved into crab thing, isn’t true, it’s just a meme.

@@MaxwellAerialPhotography That's what someone in the pay of big crab would say to lull us all into a false sense of security.

its more of a MCX than a AR-15 really

It’s like the Mauser g98, every nation wants them, half just make their own. Some make alterations to the original design, and some just make clones.

This is an MCX clone, and the MCX is just a piston AR. Just look at the AR like it's a flintlock musket. Many nations wanted them, used them, manufactured their own, and made several changes and variations like the flintlock rifles, percussion cap muskets, percussion cap rifles, flintlock muskets converted to percussion cap, doglock rifles, etc.

@@hoppinggnomethe4154 A MCX clone perhaps aesthetically, but produced by an firearms manufacturing company founded in 1526 over 500 years ago, the oldest active manufacturer of firearms in the world...they definitely know their job

The piston AR isn't really a Stoner iteration. The AR-18 was largely developed after Stoner left. George Sullivan has more of his handprints over that design.

Exactly right Sir. Mr. Stoner got to witness the absolutely atrocious mutilation of his design by the Army Ordinance Corp during Vietnam and had to contend with the slanderous reputation wrongfully attributed to his rifle. Mr. Stoner knew that he created the best combat rifle/carbine series in existence, that both his AR10/15 and AR18 systems would emerge as the premier designs of the Western world. I only hope he knew somehow that he was and still is responsible for arming the free world with an absolutely fantastic weapon in which has resulted in him saving untold numbers of lives and that his creation is going to continue to save lives for a long time coming.

That would be a cute trick!

It's also interesting that they haven't combined their efforts.

@@TheArmourersBench on the other hand both have customers lined up

Well Beretta has owned Sako since 2001 IIRC so it's a strategic choice they could have made long ago. Just how they work I guess.

@@TheArmourersBench All I know is that the Sako variants hammer sub MOA groups out to 500m

@@petrimakela5978 Supposedly so does this so at least they have that in common!

bella asinata... complimenti.

Look he's good. But he didn't operate alone, and George Sullivan had more control over the development of the AR-18. Since the vast majority of development took place after Stoner left. That said, Stoner has nothing over JMB. John Moses Browning, is the GOAT. The M2 HMG is his, modern pistol design basically his work, M240B is a flipped around BAR, multiple shotgun developments, etc etc etc etc. The sheer width, breadth, and depth of impact from JMB cannot be overstated. Stoner is very good, and had a phenomenal impact on firearms development. But his impact of systems outside of AR 10/15 were no where near as important. He's the modern Mauser. Which is not an insult at all.

I wouldn't want to be a crab.. the parasites that eat them are SCARY

*looks further inside* "Hah! Another Nerf Jolt reskin!"

Actually since its not got the recoil spring in the stock and a pitson its an ar 18.

Do you remember they have the ARX160 as their service rifle? That rifle is needlessly huge for a 5.56 rifle, has dated furniture and controls, and doesn't need to be continued. A new rifle will let their users put all their tactical shit on a nicer package than the ARX160. Also since Beretta is making it, this lets Italy have their own domestic AR style rifle in production in case some supplier or country cuts off supply of AR style guns to them. It doesn't have to be different or any better than what AR style rifle the US can produce, it's just theirs and no one can tell them what they should do with them.

Firearm technology has reached a plateau, we can't really improve much anymore, other than materials and possibly ergonomics, the rest will always be more or less the same. Regardless, this is technically not an AR-15, it's an AR-18, there are some arguably small but very appreciated differences, for one, in an AR-18 you can actually have a foldable stock, something that is impossible on an AR-15.

@@Ming-Chan The NARP is not going to replace the ARX160 in Italian service. The ARX 160 is an Army rifle. It's lightweight, relatively cheap, ambidextrous, runs forever on little maintenance. If you have to train an entire army to use a rifle, that's still the best solution. The NARP is a special forces rifle. Most of them are already trained on some sort of AR15 platform. Things like trigger and accuracy are more important, unit cost is less important. For Beretta also, if there's some foreign customer that doesn't want polymer rifles, or want AR15 ergonomics, that's a further possibility to close a contract.

For real. Thanks for watching

Haha, yeah known him for years.

I believe CMMG have.

@@TheArmourersBenchYep, I know they do one for their 9mm PCC at the very least.

Because its not worth the headache vs DI or piston. Delay systems are better than straight blowback but not really better than locked systems, especially for rifle pressures.... Accuracy wouldnt be improved over reg DI system (plus current short stroke piston systems can get very close to or match DI accuracy, for example the army new DMR m110a1 which is HK 417 piston)., often with delay systems you can end up with worse accuracy vs current systems due to how things lock up.. You still need a recoil system, easiest option would be keep AR buffer tube (the bolt carrier would need to be same or higher weight than a locked system so you cant just shorten the bolt and put the spring behind it in the receiver, yes you could develop a different system, but honestly that could be done for the DI AR, but folding stocks aren’t necessarily that great a feature vs collapsing AR stocks and often require other things to be done to prevent carrier tilt etc)Because delayed systems unlock at higher velocities than locked system you usually need something to help extraction, hence why many have fluted chambers, especially rifle calibers and are still prone to extraction issues like ripping cases. That increased velocity also generally results in higher rate of wear and breakage. Delay systems are also very temperamental with velocity, meaning when you do things like change barrel length, add suppressors , or change bullet weight etc you might need to change geometry of delaying surfaces etc. that can be an issue when talking repair and parts compatibility amongst different rifles (i.e. couldnt use same bolt in 10.3 as in the 18” etc). Im sure there are other considerations as well. This is part of why the AR is dominant vs something like the HK delayed rifles. TLDR, for rifles you reduce versatility, make parts supply and repair more complex and introduce a host of other issues for no real benefit over current locked breach systems. Delay systems are generally softer shooting and possibly more controllable on full auto vs straight blowback for Pistol cartridges (though more complex and costlier to produce requiring more precise manufacturing... no free lunch)

.223 is a pain in the ass to be blowback delay operated in a AR weight limit. It works as long as the bolt is quite heavy, and so the required delay is not that much but, as soon as the weight of the bolt is taken down to match that of the gas operated ARs, it dangerously oscillates between "not enough delay" and "too much delay" and becomes very ammo specific. See the HK33, that requires different mass of the bolt and shoulder angles for different ammo.

@@ryanpeck3377 I have two RDB 9mm pistol, both factory 8” from cmmg, one is Glock fed and the other is Colt mag fed. On both pistol I have to replaced extractor springs every 1000 rounds, and both bolts have chips on the camming surfaces. I’m only 4K into it on both. Many users have reported cracking in the bolt itself where the cam pin goes. That’s a known weak spot in ARs but it typically happens in the 8-10k(or higher) range. I’ve seen posts on some forums where it happens in the 5k range. I imagine that wear would be shorter in a 556 rdb.

Someone just keeps trying to reinvent the better wheel. But good to see the Russian + Putin AK fanboys cry that their garbage jam a matic inaccurate AK has lost its appeal.

Not sure an ar15 could handle the new 80k psi hybrid case ammo. Which is 22% lighter and 20% more powerful. It might need a piston action to run.

​@@noonecaresaboutgoogle3219All you have to do is update the barrel and upper.

@@noonecaresaboutgoogle3219 barrels aren't made just for one caliber or cartridge to withstand that cartridges pressure. I see this ignorant comment constantly and it indicates the person is a teenager RU-vid Groupie Parrot mouth talker. The same dumb asses that claim 5.56x45 blow up guns in 223 chamberings like a nuclear bomb.

lol, was looking for something like this 🤣

"YARP."

Time will tell...

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Google it friend.

No. They are adding an aluminium framed rifle to the existing polymer framed rifle.

Its market driven. It makes zero sense from an economic standpoint to dump millions into a new design when you have no idea whether or not people will want to buy it. You're better off attempting to improve what people are already willing to spend money on.

No. The LWRC is still a top notch piston Ar15

Ask your SEALS, they are often in Italy for joint training with our divers

@@AlFreeman-xy4jy not American

Probably because it's one of the best rifles in the world

The NARP isn't an AR-15. Or 'trying' to be one.

This is not AR15 based, it's just AR15 shaped. It's based on the ar18.

You can trace the answer to that all the way back to the obstinacy of Rene Studler. America is a huge market and has a lot of influence over NATO procurement, and they absolutely refuse to accept anything that they don't like, whether it be due to familiarity, protectionism, or just that they don't like the idea. It's the same reason that the NGSW project was absolutely never going to select any of the bullpup entrants, even if they were superior - nuSIG cronyism aside.

Are you an old fudd? I bet you don’t understand optics either.

Lots of guns have forward assists, although it is worth mentioning Eugene stoner did not believe a forward assist to be necessary for his design when he submitted to the army, but they still wanted one anyway. It’s not a bad mechanism to have, it’s just redundant for almost every scenario.

The version with the folding stock already exists, there is a video on YT

Yep, they just didn't have it at SHOT Show

AR = Armalite Rifle, not Assault Rifle so I guess not.

I assume the Italian special forces know what they want. And having a home-made system that doesn't require American involvement does make sense, in the scope of the evolving Europe-US relations

@@talscorner3696 Italian special forces Jokes write themselves

@@El_Peto even assuming your and my personal service records are better than theirs (I'm willing to bet they're not, but let's assume for the sake of the argument) and that the Italian special forces are all, 100%, first to last a bunch of cartoonishly clumsy idiots, it'd still be a strategically sensible idea to have a piece of equipment produced in house that can be integrated within the context of greater Europe, especially should an anti-Nato Republican win the American elections this year. Is yet another AR-15 clone the be all/end all? Maybe not. Do random people on the internet have enough information to make an industry and theatre-defining decision? I sure do not. Plus, Beretta isn't here to run a charity, but to make money and AR's are, at least as it seems to be, what the big spenders currently want. Doesn't have to be a good idea, just one folks pay for.

​@@El_Petolook who's talking

At Beretta they'll be desperate to not have your approval.

sig at home lol

@@steinerlk5512 more like the better Sig with better QC