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Bernie Sanders presses Norfolk Southern CEO Alan Shaw on guaranteeing paid sick days for all workers 

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@Amtrakker
@Amtrakker Год назад
Thank you Bernie for not accepting the non-answers.
@wno1043
@wno1043 Год назад
Sanders doesn't understand modern railroading, and he doesn't understand the need to make a profit. Precision Scheduled Railroading has NOTHING to do with safety. In fact, it probably has made railroading safer! Sanders is clueless. But he's a communist, so I'm not surprised at his demands. Companies don't exist to hire people. They exist to provide a service and make a profit. To do that, they hire people, but they shouldn't be forced to hire more than they need.
@JH-lz4dh
@JH-lz4dh Год назад
What a joke. Big companies don't really care about people
@johnyank1872
@johnyank1872 Год назад
Big government doesn’t care about the people they’re fixed it for you. especially the socialist clown Bernie.🤡
@davidcooper4385
@davidcooper4385 Год назад
As bad as Amazon, ibew electricians make bank...
@LmfaoBanana
@LmfaoBanana Год назад
At this point treating American's like garbage is business as usual.
@NoOne-py5or
@NoOne-py5or Год назад
Welcome to capitalism
@luisrider7475
@luisrider7475 Год назад
Taking care of one's employees to the standard they truly deserve cuts into the semi annual bonus guys. Can't have that. what would be the point of all those soul destroying compromises made on the journey here?
@Deep3rShadeSofHouSe
@Deep3rShadeSofHouSe Год назад
The CEO's facial expression after Sanders asks him if Norfolk Southern will cover the health care needs of the people in East Palestine @ 6:05 is priceless. You can tell how the very thought of paying the costs of their negligence pained him to hear. Big business is accostomed to getting off scott free with no consequences. That's why he gave another vague non-answer to that question.
@truthlives6107
@truthlives6107 Год назад
He sure did. I wanted to kick him in his FUGLY face but don't want to injure my TV...🤬lol
@devinmichaelroberts9954
@devinmichaelroberts9954 Год назад
well he phrased the question terribly.. he phrased it as if Norfolk now is responsible for paying every person in that towns medical costs for the rest of their lives. Even if they get some disease or accident that has nothing to do with the train accident. Thats why he looked that way and refused to commit. Bernie Sanders is kind of a dunce
@Deep3rShadeSofHouSe
@Deep3rShadeSofHouSe Год назад
@@devinmichaelroberts9954 The CEO's answer is what was phrased terribly. Only a dunce would think that the question insinuated that the railroad should be responsible for the entire town's medical bills for the rest of their lives. Its clear the inquisition is related to health issues that arise from the polluted water caused from the company's negligence which caused the train to derail. There's nothing worse than people who shill for greedy corporations.
@JustMe-vk4fn
@JustMe-vk4fn Год назад
@@devinmichaelroberts9954 "One last issue, uh last question. You talked about covering the needs of the people of East Palestine. Does that include paying for their healthcare needs? All of their healthcare needs?" That was a fair question. They're the ones whose train was on fire for approximately 20 miles before it derailed in East Palestine. CBS uploaded the video. Perhaps you didn't see it.
@perrybelcourt5441
@perrybelcourt5441 Год назад
Creepy Joe can use executive orders for Ohio Michigan wallstreet puppet would let him these basterd should be in jail
@rickreed4733
@rickreed4733 Год назад
My Son, daughter in law, and my 3 grandchildren living in east Palestine need to be insured of all of Healthcare needs . As of FEBRUARY 3 THEY are on a journey of uncertainty. Please do right by them..... let's put people before profit.
@maneshipocrates2264
@maneshipocrates2264 Год назад
Republicans say healthcare is social medicine. Their voters agree with this.
@vicpetrishak7705
@vicpetrishak7705 Год назад
Why have you not taken your family in ? 71/23
@zulmavillalba6137
@zulmavillalba6137 Год назад
It is so sad that politicians like DeWine and other Republicans took big donations from that railroad company, allowing them to be negligent in the safety of the communities they go through. My heart goes out to all the families in East Palestine who are suffering, and they deserve to be compensated in all forms. We need politicians who will look out for the working class.
@crinklecut3790
@crinklecut3790 Год назад
@@zulmavillalba6137 let go of the partisanship. Both parties are responsible for this. Both are against the workers and the people. Look how the “pro-union” democrats quickly voted to prevent railroad workers from striking, preventing them from getting the paid sick days they wanted. When will you figure out they’re all on the same team? And it’s not the team the people are on?
@fallen605
@fallen605 Год назад
​@@zulmavillalba6137 Biden and the railroad said they could not strike because we don't have gas for the truckers it should never be about politics but the citizens that got hurt but go head blame the only person who showed up why Biden went to Ukraine not Ohio this is sad that we are Americans but care how you vote guess blue might not want to have any thing happen to there state stupidity
@ViolentOrchid
@ViolentOrchid Год назад
Precision rail scheduling is dehumanizing and it should be illegal. The quality of employees' lives is directly related to the quality of life the communities along their rails experience.
@angelikalindenau943
@angelikalindenau943 Год назад
How many twists can he get his knickers into? Go Bernie, go! Keep calling them out!
@jasonharris1636
@jasonharris1636 Год назад
Alan Shaw is committed to protecting his ass-ets and nothing else!
@2facexodus
@2facexodus Год назад
He still didn’t answer. What a creep
@devinmichaelroberts9954
@devinmichaelroberts9954 Год назад
I respect how Bernie doesnt act rude or "forceful" which usually comes across as senators trying to get viral video of them "giving it to the man" so to speak. Or attempting to look like they are fighting extra hard for us. Bernie is calm, respectful but also pointed.
@booyahinc
@booyahinc Год назад
😂 this IS Bernie getting forceful
@fuckcensorship69
@fuckcensorship69 Год назад
he accepts many non answers. this is why he's accomplished nothing but growing his own bank account
@faithworldleader6891
@faithworldleader6891 Год назад
@@fuckcensorship69 He's nagged Big Pharma into lowering insulin prices. That's not nothing. What are you so worried about? That he might run again?
@devinmichaelroberts9954
@devinmichaelroberts9954 Год назад
@@fuckcensorship69 he's not worth that much actually for someone his age.. my father was blue collar but made some wise investments and is probably net worth around 2 million. Doesnt mean anything since most of that 2 million is the home he has going up in value. Same for Bernie.. he has 2 homes both of which are most of his net worth. But I take your point. Sanders also has an embarrsingly low effetiveness.. below average when weighed against other senators. Meaning in his long career he has contributed about 500 amendments to bills. It should be 3 times that much.
@fuckcensorship69
@fuckcensorship69 Год назад
@@faithworldleader6891 i dont care if he runs or not. if i had a preference though, every politician would fly to Mars
@coldwaterjimmy7044
@coldwaterjimmy7044 Год назад
This guy will not answer a single question. He's a liar and a politician
@davidcooper4385
@davidcooper4385 Год назад
He answers like joe BIDEN lol..
@kilvarough
@kilvarough Год назад
In other words, it sounds like a big middle finger to his employees and Palestine. The shareholders are always first, above all else.
@jasonsliger5430
@jasonsliger5430 Год назад
Jail him for contempt because he literally was purposely dodging the questions.
@Badhabit4590
@Badhabit4590 Год назад
Help the people of E Palestine Ohio first !!!!!!! And what about all the poor animals. Norfolk southern RR should start a fund for wildlife preservation to help the surviving animals thrive and mate 😢 this accident coulda been prevented and wasn’t. Sorry doesn’t fix a damn thing … 🙏
@perrybelcourt5441
@perrybelcourt5441 Год назад
Creepy Joe administration can use executive orders for the people in Ohio and Michigan but wallstreet Joe not helping
@perrybelcourt5441
@perrybelcourt5441 Год назад
President Joe could use executive orders for Ohio Michigan
@marlonstjohn
@marlonstjohn Год назад
The man cannot answer "yes". He is not permitted to by his shareholders.
@catness1809
@catness1809 Год назад
Bernie: *asks yes or no question* CEO: "time to respond with a whole novel"
@joejohnston2035
@joejohnston2035 Год назад
Bottom line, maintenance was shunned.... period
@vikingstorm885
@vikingstorm885 Год назад
When the CEO said "We'll do what is right." Does that mean to increase bribes to Senators to help Norfolk Southern avoid responsibility? I would be curious as to how many Senators in that room have already taken pay offs.
@miketaylor8323
@miketaylor8323 Год назад
I bet what they did was get rid of their older experience workers and replaced them with new employees with far less experience
@TheRealJRC
@TheRealJRC Год назад
THAT is EXACTLY what is happening. Literally, I promise. In so doing they're also going with a do more with less attitude. Use unproven technology that we know fails, increase workloads to more than any reasonable human can manage, and when you get called on it or sued for it...."we don't retaliate" and "we will use more technology to fix this" and "you're just resisting change."
@gfriedman99
@gfriedman99 Год назад
Yep. Good call.
@raildude706
@raildude706 Год назад
that is not the case, they furloughed employees by seniority which lower seniority employees were let go. They did cut too short as there were nearly 60 freight carmen/inspectors when I hired in over 30 years ago to less then 20 at its low last year. We now are hiring several but I imagine we won't get back to 30. We shall see
@gfriedman99
@gfriedman99 Год назад
@@raildude706 Any thoughts on making carmen/inspectors federal employees somewhat like TSA in the airports?
@thehitman602
@thehitman602 Год назад
Bernie don't play.
@perrybelcourt5441
@perrybelcourt5441 Год назад
Wallstreet Joe can use executive orders for the people in Ohio and Michigan but he is useless
@wiedapp
@wiedapp Год назад
As usual: Allergic to the words YES and NO.
@phatmusic
@phatmusic Год назад
Literally answers no question at all. "Do what's right" is the most subjective thing anyone could possibly say 🙄🙄🙄
@Jane_Dow
@Jane_Dow Год назад
As you all can see, thats a Big Fat No on any kind of benefits for the Workers of Norfolk. Now as for the Big Wigs & the Share Holders their Money is Crispy, it don't Jingle !!
@MultiShriek
@MultiShriek Год назад
I would take that as a no I think.
@Kiwi-ez2nn
@Kiwi-ez2nn Год назад
What a joke. God forbid the big companies do something for the worker. Thank you Bernie for trying to make them do what’s right
@joannkennedy3563
@joannkennedy3563 Год назад
This was the best.
@larisal1500
@larisal1500 Год назад
Bernie knows how to be direct & is used to dealing with this pathetic CEOs. Placing profits in front of public safety and employee rights should be criminal! Pathological greedy CEOs abound.
@getonlygotonly
@getonlygotonly Год назад
they aint ever going to put that toxic genie back in the bottle. whoever was responsible for burning that crud instead of containing it and cleaning it up needs to be locked up and have the key thrown away. let me know when those in charge say they can unring a bell.
@markgiles313
@markgiles313 Год назад
Sleaze corporations
@judewarner1536
@judewarner1536 Год назад
''Everything is on the table, Sir''. Unfortunately the table is slanted and most things just slide right off.
@tismeagen684
@tismeagen684 Год назад
I like Bernie Sanders, he asks straight questions and expects straight answers. Alan Shaw Norfolk Southern CEO definitely sounded like a politician, talked a lot and said nothing.
@peace8373
@peace8373 Год назад
Bernie is the man he's pushing for fairness in our citizens and how they work this is a We the People Nation we need to make citizens more important than corporations it is the quality of life of all citizens that make a nation great not when there's just a few super rich
@sandra47958
@sandra47958 Год назад
Go Mr. Sanders for all your hard work for the American 🇺🇸 people. United we stand 💙🇺🇸💔 Divided we fall, we will not fall.
@traceyhagedorn6378
@traceyhagedorn6378 Год назад
NS =$3 billion in profits just last year…that’s Billion with a B…didn’t another train derail in AL during the hearing today? 1:04
@armike5568
@armike5568 Год назад
They derail all the time. People are just starting to notice it because of Ohio.
@cassandra9581
@cassandra9581 Год назад
All of what Bernie asked of him should be requirements and not even need to be asked about.
@AintItGreat
@AintItGreat Год назад
Bernie Sanders will forever be the GOAT
@johnjacobjingleheimerschmi3857
All Time Worst Comb Over Ever
@gfriedman99
@gfriedman99 Год назад
Bernie is letting it go.
@Nobodylistenstoturtle-
@Nobodylistenstoturtle- Год назад
It’s so nice to see the CEO being held responsible. It’s time the public knows how much these how much these CEOs’ don’t care about the public & will continue to make cuts to maximize their profits!
@patpetersen7645
@patpetersen7645 Год назад
I had sick days and vacation days when I worked for the red cross long time ago, and sick days, which I never used, would build up, kept me afloat when I had to have two major surgeries in one year. then they took that away and made it just PTO.
@ouran909
@ouran909 Год назад
I’m so sorry. That is disheartening and disgusting for them to do. I’ve seen a few workplaces do this with sick days and it’s not okay. I’m glad your two surgeries were covered by sick days.
@jasonashley9853
@jasonashley9853 Год назад
Yup. A lot of times it turns into PTO.
@annchristine47
@annchristine47 Год назад
Go Bernie!America needs you so much.
@kewakl8891
@kewakl8891 Год назад
Mr. Shaw Can you answer a 'Yes-or-No' question with either a 'Yes' or a 'No?'
@robynology101
@robynology101 Год назад
This is the CEO? Just say “yes, as CEO I am committed to guaranteeing 7 paid sick days to all employees”. Why is he fighting that?? They don’t care about their employees AT ALL.
@russhall856
@russhall856 Год назад
Make them answer the question 🙄
@hilpei3675
@hilpei3675 Год назад
Corporations have to stop using cost cutting -- especially employing people -- as a profit margin. IT"S WHY WE HAVE THE MAGA CULT -- EMPLY PEOPLE FOR GOD SAKES!!!
@jamesbreeden9016
@jamesbreeden9016 Год назад
We should string up every one of these CEOs, bank presidents, and everyone of their board of directors.
@ghosttowntomato
@ghosttowntomato Год назад
AMEN!!!
@annebierce5280
@annebierce5280 Год назад
Bernie is a national treasure
@californiaman2112
@californiaman2112 Год назад
Why do I get the felling the losses in revenue from all these derailments still won't come out of the CEO, board members' and fat cats' bonuses at the end of the year. They'll pass the funk later down the line onto the consumer who had nothing to do with it and blame the insurance for premium increases, levied fines and pending law suits. What a mess! Maybe if they suspend their license they'll be more cautious.
@janetrogers4738
@janetrogers4738 Год назад
Senator Sanders is Right. No business should have zero sick days. Especially with COVID.
@crinklecut3790
@crinklecut3790 Год назад
Congress and the Democrats in it had their chance to act to guarantee paid sick days to the railroad workers but they voted to change the law to prevent them from striking instead. I’m so sick of these hypocrites. This hearing is all performative. Nothing will change because nothing has to change because Congress let the workers down.
@HereInPA_Hagen
@HereInPA_Hagen Год назад
Many vague answers. Instead of specific commitments asked for by senators, Shaw repeatedly said, We want to "make it right." VERY non-specific. What assurance for the people whose town is basically ruined.
@annerickson4788
@annerickson4788 Год назад
How inhumane of him not to commit to taking care of the health issues of the people & land he so easily poisoned.😢
@JustMe-vk4fn
@JustMe-vk4fn Год назад
>.< *WHY* is it that no one can answer a simple yes or no question any more? Don't they understand that the very moment anything comes out of their mouths *except* yes or no that they have just destroyed their OWN credibility?
@happycompy
@happycompy Год назад
It's extremely frustrating
@barrygaynor1025
@barrygaynor1025 Год назад
Bernie is terrific.
@falcorthewonderdog2758
@falcorthewonderdog2758 Год назад
America is concerned with Norfolk Southern doing maintenance on their equipment. Bernie's worried about employee benefits. Disgusting. This companies negligence destroyed an entire town of 5,000 people. The event takes priority over negotiation of employee benefits.
@ghosttowntomato
@ghosttowntomato Год назад
That farmland will be tainted for generations. The produce will be shipped across the country. We are doomed.
@CyberspacedLoner
@CyberspacedLoner Год назад
How toxic are vinyl chloride ?
@gfriedman99
@gfriedman99 Год назад
@@CyberspacedLoner 1 ppm will give u cancer
@celestesenters1052
@celestesenters1052 Год назад
Precision Scheduled DERAILMENTS EVERY 3 DAYS
@pholland8353
@pholland8353 Год назад
How soon before that CEO runs for public office? What a disgrace. I’ll take his deflections as a No to Bernie’s question
@vicpetrishak7705
@vicpetrishak7705 Год назад
Norfolk Southern has a concept , Precision Schedule Railroading that Shameless Shaw has adapted , Precision Lying ! 69/23
@KtunaxaMTB
@KtunaxaMTB Год назад
Railway workers thank you for this Bernie. These CEOs and Shareholders need to be put in their place for once.
@susanhead9839
@susanhead9839 Год назад
IT IS ALWAYS ABOUT THE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHAW IS A ANOTHER LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@d.virgallito3490
@d.virgallito3490 Год назад
Little late for Ohio, just another example of human Greed!
@jnwilliams1986
@jnwilliams1986 Год назад
So, in short: No, no, and - no.
@perrybelcourt5441
@perrybelcourt5441 Год назад
Senator Bernie Sanders would have used executive order for Ohio Michigan
@Hohorik
@Hohorik Год назад
Someone who fights for people!
@perrybelcourt5441
@perrybelcourt5441 Год назад
Put them in jail
@johnerwin-inprogress6194
@johnerwin-inprogress6194 Год назад
Management speak. "I I share your focus". Awful
@zachjones6944
@zachjones6944 Год назад
The CEO was coached. Why is he blinking so much?
@DansBuddhaBodega
@DansBuddhaBodega Год назад
You got N.S. nailed down, and you want to talk about employee overtime ? Figures
@paulkurilecz4209
@paulkurilecz4209 Год назад
I dislike the way this situation has been presented. To the best of my knowledge, major corporations do not provide a separate "sick day" leave benefit. You are provided with a certain number of PTO (Paid Time Off) days per calendar year and the amount is sometimes based on seniority or time with the company. These days are used for whatever reason. I think that the RR employees were asking for a separate "sick time" benefit. The reason why many companies dropped the sick time benefit is that it was virtually impossible to monitor that the employee was indeed dealing with an illness and was unable to work. One company that I once worked for had a requirement that if you took a sick day, you needed confirmation from a doctor or other health care provider. The number of sick days being claimed went down dramatically as a result of that policy. I remember at one time the employees at RR companies were called for jobs based on seniority. That is the most senior employees were called for work first. An employee also had the ability to "mark off" from being called and they were then placed at the bottom of the call list. I do not know if this work practice still exists for unionized RR employees.
@gregorylumpkin2128
@gregorylumpkin2128 Год назад
What was that new policy? Oh, yeah, precision scheduled derailroading. Saves money too. Fewer crew on board, less equipment maintenance, and don't even think about maintenance of way.
@helifynoe9930
@helifynoe9930 Год назад
Mr. Shaw. You seem to be avoiding the questions, and thus instantly change the subject. Mr. Shaw, when in restaurants, have you been having difficulty obtaining the specific food that you want, after a restaurant waiter asks you what it is that you wish to order. Do you communicate with the waiters in the same manner as in here and now, when ordering food. What we are just trying to do here, is determine whether or no you are capable of actually answering questions.
@JiroSkullFox
@JiroSkullFox Год назад
This guy need to step down as ceo of NS and the business be completely dismantled there are plenty of other railroad companies that can replace NS
@davidcooper4385
@davidcooper4385 Год назад
3 billion profit yep,they norfolk will never change forever,1500 more employees is nothing lol..
@dlewis895
@dlewis895 Год назад
CEO NS OMG NOT ANS ??? ARE YOU CHANGING 7 SICK DAYS WTFWTFWTF ANS THE?? NS CEO
@chadclayburg1410
@chadclayburg1410 Год назад
And we still don't have paid sick leave.
@Matteo-xm6xo
@Matteo-xm6xo Год назад
When you cut jobs and rehire at 80% salary for 5 years sounds like good savings.
@bobstrayer9004
@bobstrayer9004 Год назад
What a weasel! Shame on NS!
@gfriedman99
@gfriedman99 Год назад
Who are those people behind Shaw? They could pass for his brother and sister.
@dlewis895
@dlewis895 Год назад
BERNIE TO NS CEO HEALTH CARE NEEDS FOR EP
@SANITIZEDINC
@SANITIZEDINC Год назад
Get 'em, Tio B!
@dangermouse2977
@dangermouse2977 Год назад
pass a bill requiring minimun # of paid sick leave days across the board for all employees that restricts scheduling changes and on call nonsense for PT workers single payer healthcare + extra benefits for hazardous jobs etc etc etc
@vicpetrishak7705
@vicpetrishak7705 Год назад
The Teamsters had Sick Days in the late 1970’s . There are always trade offs in contract negotiations . Sometimes the Unions stand behind their members , way , way , behind them ! 71/23
@gunsaway1
@gunsaway1 Год назад
Shaw should run for Congress
@Eric-du5ry
@Eric-du5ry Год назад
Not a single question answered the entire time
@bigvince4672
@bigvince4672 Год назад
With all do respect you sound like a politician Mr shaw 😆
@thedailyhummm
@thedailyhummm Год назад
Bernie👍👍
@ThatCreoleMan
@ThatCreoleMan Год назад
Wow!!!
@livefromva6479
@livefromva6479 Год назад
They are gunna pay up big time and he knows it
@peligroy2k
@peligroy2k Год назад
Some of the working class members of Congress (Rs & Ds): Mark Warner (D-VA) - Net worth estimated at $214 million, mostly from his time as a telecommunications executive. Greg Gianforte (R-MT) - Net worth estimated at $135 million, mostly from his tech company, RightNow Technologies. John Delaney (D-MD) - Net worth estimated at $112 million, mostly from his time as CEO of CapitalSource Bank. Jared Polis (D-CO) - Net worth estimated at $100 million, mostly from his involvement in multiple internet companies. Rick Scott (R-FL) - Net worth estimated at $82 million, mostly from his investments in healthcare and real estate. Katherine Clark (D-MA) - Net worth estimated at $40 million, mostly from her family's investments. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) - Net worth estimated at $35 million, mostly from her husband's investments in real estate and finance. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) - Net worth estimated at $25 million, mostly from her husband's investments in real estate and finance.
@jennifercuddy5663
@jennifercuddy5663 Год назад
Our rails are third world. They are horrid.
@andred.4664
@andred.4664 Год назад
I wish these accidents were investigated Just like a plane crash. These hearings in Washington are worthless.
@tx_gal6518
@tx_gal6518 Год назад
He rapid blinked in Morse code: Heck no!
@d.virgallito3490
@d.virgallito3490 Год назад
Blah, Blah, Blah!
@lilyswan
@lilyswan Год назад
Yeah Bernie.
@kobelcofan
@kobelcofan Год назад
Bernie is crazy but I actually agreed with most of what he said here. I am a very far right republican but I agree with him here.
@chrismerkel9604
@chrismerkel9604 Год назад
Alan Shaw personally gave the order to ignite the chemical and fuel oil tankers after the derailment!
@dangermouse2977
@dangermouse2977 Год назад
RR guy cant makevthat decision without it being approved by his board of directors; would get fired
@Letyourcolorsblendwithmine
@Letyourcolorsblendwithmine Год назад
Where was Bernie with all this when the workers wanted to strike ? ! ?
@street_toyz
@street_toyz Год назад
Oh he was there. He was about the only one fighting for us to have better wages, schedules, cap on healthcare
@SANITIZEDINC
@SANITIZEDINC Год назад
With the workers. Always.
@perrybelcourt5441
@perrybelcourt5441 Год назад
He was in Britain and independent Scotland and Ireland call Trump Desantis Clinton Biden Obama jokes around the world and praised senator Bernie Sanders and independent Ireland senator Bernie Sanders wife has relatives in North Ireland and South Ireland and the Irish people like Sanders family members in Ireland and independent Scotland and Ireland call called out the corrupt corporate media outlets say they are puppets of the masters the rulings class
@Somethingwicked1x
@Somethingwicked1x Год назад
Go to his RU-vid page.
@MexiMelt1988
@MexiMelt1988 Год назад
Mitch McConnell
@hermannshermann6786
@hermannshermann6786 Год назад
If wealth makes a man become that guy maybe being a working man ain't so bad after all.
@functionalvanconversion4284
Wow, is this CEO a robot? Just giving a bunch of sentences full of buzzwords and deflecting instead of answering. "You sound like a politician" Bernie Sanders 🤦
@dylanjones4889
@dylanjones4889 Год назад
Alan Shaw is such a shady character
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