And as she said in a later episode it was his silence she was punishing him for. But Turner is such a (bleep) to bring it up when she know nothing really happened.
He was wrong to keep a secret about her servant. She's the lady of the house and her servant betrayed her which left her vulnerable. Who's her lady's maid was solely the choice and discretion of the lady of the house. George should have known better than to protect a betraying servant.
I don't think he was protecting the servant. He's transactional. He doesn't protect anyone who isn't his family without benefiting or profiting in some way himself - and certainly not someone intending to harm his wife. He's fiercely protective of his wife - to a fault - as we've seen throughout the show. His explanation for his silence seems believable. Finding a new lady's maid is a big deal for a woman of status - for whom presentation is critical. However, that doesn't make his silence morally correct. She deserved to make her own decision.
He was protecting his wife’s feelings, not Turner. And in some way, Turner was making her life easier at the time, so I guess he didn’t see why he should disrupt that for what he didn’t consider a serious enough situation, just her being stupid. It’s just, knowing his wife, that’s the opposite of what she’d want. He should have known that.
I truly think he felt he was protecting Bertha. He was wrong not telling her but he had no interest in Turner. Bertha was right, his mistake was not telling her it happened in the first place. She shouldn’t have to hear it from Turner.
@@Bitchslapper316 depends on if she tells him. And in this situation, it could be considered/seen as attempted rape, so it'd be absolutely unthinkable to keep him in the house.
@@seanp2871he WILL lose his mind. George is a proud man, and is a little to confident in his wife’s loyalty no matter what which for someone who likes control is important, but this and the fact that he’s the money maker presents a sort of power imbalance in the relationship. I’m just glad that she can hold her own
He didn’t cheat and he did the right thing by immediately throwing her out of his room and never engaging with her again. But he should have told his wife.
Even though he didn't cheat on her and he is correct that that is the main positive of what happened with Turner, him not telling her immediately was a huge mistake. I understand what he's saying about not wanting to cause drama in the house, but at the same time, Turner crossed a major line and keeping her employed after that should never have happened. He should have told her immediately so they could have worked out a way to get rid of Turner without the house falling into chaos. And in addition to that, marriages should never have secrets because when they do, the trust is broken and you can no longer operate as a united team, which is their greatest strength as a couple.
You could always tell they love each other though. She trusted him to take risks and was willing to do it all over again, if they had to. They don’t have a marriage like the Astors or the Van Rhijns. Theirs is based on love, George made his fortune with Bertha by his side
I was pleasantly surprised by his loyalty to his wife. He has an incredibly grubby, undignified, and inhumane side, so I 100% expected him to fold and have an affair with that woman. But he was loyal. He's protective of his wife to a fault. I don't think he betrayed his wife; quite the opposite. He just prioritized the wrong problem at hand. Yes, it would've been incredibly disruptive for his wife to not have a lady's maid at a time when her presentation was everything, but at the end of the day, that's less important than having trustworthy people in your orbit.
He did the right thing by putting her ass out of the room, however, HE SHOULD HAVE TOLD HIS WIFE. Him keeping this secret, will cause her to THINK that something happened, because if nothing did, why would he keep that a secret?
If it was the other way around he would be pissed too. Say she dancing or at that met and a man that worked for or did contracts with her husband grabbed her or tried to kiss her. If she declined his advances but failed to tell her husband he would be furious.
I see both sides. He didn’t tell her to protect her feelings and because of all the drama it would cause. I also understand her pov because I would be pissed if you had my servant smiling in my face knowing they tried to seduce you.
@@danielalvarado9019George did betray her. Not only did he leave his wife vulnerable to a traitor of a ladies maid he gave her a good reference. Had George told his wife the truth from the get go. The maids reputation would have been ruined and she couldn't have come back to haunt them.
The audience knows that he didn't do anything with the maid, but if I were the wife...would I believe that? I would certainly WANT to, but because he never told her...I wouldn't. I'd think he lied because he laid that woman like a tile floor.
If someone comes up to me with an attitude like Turner had, I'd be pissed too. Her husband kept a secret from her, let this traitor be close to Berta knowing she tried to seduce him, and now it is Berta that needs to watch out? I'm pretty sure she'd have reacted much more calmly had she known earlier because they could have done something about her, cause she's right, not telling her IS protecting the traitor, and his wife is his teammate. And gentlemen, if a man, a close friend maybe, tried to stab you in the back and your wife hid it from you and now he is threatening you and insulting you even though he's the one that f-cked up, what would you feel.
@@chisomo8088 If he found out he would %100 fire him and try to do everything to ruin him. Had Church acted that way towards Bertha and she didn't tell him until later? George may have gotten a bit upset with her but I don't think he would have reacted the same way she did towards him. He would take it out in Church.
I thought at the time that he should have told Turner to leave of her own accord, and tell her he was going to give her a few days before he told his wife what happened... that way, no need for drama. The minute his wife said she was going to need to look for a new lady's maid he could tell her. But Bertha gets into a rage so easily that I wouldn't trust her to fire the maid without the entire neighborhood knowing about it.
I mean if your friend tried to sleep with your man, and he didn't tell you about it, I think most people would feel betrayed or at least, fooled. I know Turner wasn't her friend, but she literally lives with her all the time. Heck it'd be true for any woman, servant or not.
If we look at this in the writers mind, Ms Turner meant nothing to George and treated her in the same way he runs his company. What I love about this scene George is reminded Bertha is not a business deal and he must learn to separate the two. This scene proves whether the Guilded age or the 21st century, no women wants to feel they are left out, and be told by the other women that something is going on or be the last to know. I love the writing, the family dynamics and just like in this day and age, 0:39 some people cheat and some people don’t. I have a huge respect for those who fight to have a moral code. No matter how much George has and runs, he can still learn. Great series!!
He should have told her whether he did anything or not. Anyone in any form of relationship would want to know and would consider it betrayal if you didn’t tell them.
Bertha was so crazy! I can’t believe people think George is in the wrong here 😂 He didn’t want to fire her because his wife needed a lady’s maid if yall forget Lady’s maid aren’t easy to come by and it’s a life long chemistry bond (however shallow) that you still have to learn the lady they are Waiting upon
Her ladies maid was NAKED with her husband. Yes George was trying to protect Bertha but it looked like he was hiding something. He knows now that it was wrong to keep it from her. Turner wasn’t and isn’t to be trusted.
But he did… he even called out Bertha’s name before realizing it wasn’t her. He jumped out of bed the minute he saw Turner. Did you even watch the episode?
The servant betrayed her mistress by trying to seduce her husband, he was an accomplice to that betrayal even though it wasn't his intention to hurt his wife. By keeping her around it gave her more chances to betray her which she continuously did by talking behind her back to the other servants.
Also Bertha was humiliated. The knowledge that Turner did her hair, helped pick her clothes, etc.. all after she tried to seduce George was disgusting to her.
The others have explained well. But Bertha thought George hiding the fact that her lady's maid was in his bed trying to seduce him to be an act of betrayal from him. They're supposed to be partners and he's supposed to give her information/heads-up on anyone outside their partnership/marriage. He didn't. He let the trollop (Turner) 'go' and basically do all these works for Bertha (handling her bath, her gown, etc) all which are intimate. Bertha rightly does not wish to be waited on by someone who's a 'traitor.' She considered George as a traitor's accomplice for not telling her therefore putting her at a disadvantage (of no knowledge) when Turner broke the news to her.
I once walked in on Tina Turna naked in my bed, banging my cousin, who was an extra in the Goldeneye video. That was the first time I ever saw a woman.
She should be angry that he didn't tell her but it should be tempered with pride that he wasn't tempted in the slightest. But instead she behaved like Skyler White who (when believing at the time) that her husband was having a breakdown on account of being about to die any day hid a second phone from her she didn't factor his condition into things at all and instead when off and had an affair - all this before she knew that he was a drug dealer. Mrs Russel acted like a spoiled child here.
She has a right to be angry, not throw a week long hissy fit and cry like a child. As a wife, I can guarantee you that she decides which pieces of information she shares with him. Do you remember in the movie Rob Roy when Robs wife is raped by Archie but she hides it from her husband because she knows it will unbalance him as intended and lead him to make a tactical error and get himself killed? Husbands and wives make strategic decisions on what to share, they don't just blunder in and blab about everything. The fact that Mrs Russel didn't even consider this and instead only thought about her pride shows that she is a child. @@bjkl9936
Separate beds are historically accurate, but I think when he says" I thought it was you", implies that she sometimes did the same as Turner, but rightly, and when he wanted to stay with her he just asked like im s1..I understand some ppl believe that people in that era behaved in a certain way, and men had mistresses, but there is no way to tell how everyone behaved in a marriage and loved or didnt love their spouse..I think they are potrayed to be very much, honlestly in love and I am here for it..also Carrie Coons voice alone should have won an Emmy😅
@@tajanamladina2449 Yeah, it's historically accurate but looking at it through a modern lense it seems weird. I'm sure there is a reason for it I do not understand. Maybe it helps them fully enjoy the time they do spend together more. Yeah Carrie is great in this show.
This is incredibly anachronistic. This is a time when a huge fraction of upper class men are regularly having sex with lower class women. Rejecting the maid and sending her on her way was the right thing to do by the standards of the age. The wife is displaying modern values that make no sense in that context.
Because they have a real marriage, not a transactional one. It wasn’t a business decision, they had nothing and she helped him build his fortune. She’s right to be hurt that she man she loves kept something like this from her.
Overreact to her husband keeping a secret? He allowed her ladies maid to betray her without consequence. She had a right to know Turner couldn’t be trusted
