...and also has a record of winning a Cup as coach, for the first time for a team, bringing them out of the cellar in the middle of the year, and being an NHL star player. Hopefully, that will play into the "strong personal authority over the team and management".
The problem with Marner has nothing to do with Marner. It has everything to do with salary cap allocation and rounding out a team for a Stanley Cup run. If you pay Marner the $12.5 he'll want, you have a massive hole in your depth scoring and defence. You're essentially playing against teams at a deficit once your top line is off the ice. And you can't win a cup with one line.
I agree. I think it's time to ask Marner which of the two he wants: Cup or higher salary? I do believe that ultimately, Marner would go with a more modest salary for that reason; I really think the guy's toxicity on the ice is only due to his frustrations at not being able to perform as well as he's billed for. I like boring, solid, consistent, defense-first minded Leafs over high-flying offensive, pirouetting goals-record-setting Leafs, as long as they keep winning (I'm really hoping that Montreal game was a one-off). Marner has to have a strong role in there somehow, although we know that's not his forte.
The comparison to the Caps and Ovechkin doesn’t work; they got to game 7 of the second round multiple times. Leafs have made it to the second round once.
He's gotta adapt, and I think that's the path they'll go down. Keefe couldn't do it; maybe Berube can. I get the idea Marner wants to win more badly than anyone else; he's going to have to show it by taking hits in front of the net and winning battles there to score goals.
I disagree with Bourne. I dont think we can win with Matthews, Marner, and Nylander. No evidence to suggest any of them are high-quality and physical players that can win in the playoffs. The Leafs best playoff players every year are always the new additions they find at the Trade Deadline.
Matthews was fourth on the team for hits in the post season last year (27,) behind Lyubushkin (30,) Tavares (35,) and Benoit (38.) And that’s with not even playing the full 7 games. Wait to see what they do under Berube.
I am really glad they've gone to boring and winning. No, it will not sell in this town...winning will. But happy they're finally making that switch; now we need to see it reflected in the salaries.
The disallowed Perry goal was pretty much the same as the disallowed Rempe goal from the Rangers/Utah game on Saturday. It was pretty much the exact same situation. As long as they are consistent with it, then I think it's fine. What I hate is when they are not consistent with the call. I think Perry's was a little worse as he was hacking at Vladar's feet in the crease before the shot. It may not have had an affect on the goal, but it is that dirty kind of stuff that doesn't get Perry the benefit of doubt. He was in the crease for the purpose of trying to interfere. Backlund later and gave a light tap to Skinner's foot to send a message that the Flames can play that game too (to which Skinner deserves an Oscar for trying to sell it as more than just a tap).
Kypreos has finally seen the light. He was the biggest Marner supporter. Now he is ready to see the Leafs without Marner. Great to see. Marner does nothing to move the needle. He is a twirl and whirl hockey player. Full of turnovers. Matthews has zero goals and zero assists. Marner is not needed.
Your saying this about the Leaf's core , you can't win with them ?? How long have McDavid and Leon been together ???????? This Leaf core will win before Edmonton !!!!!
supporting role is getting better and goaltending and coaching is far superior so it may work this year. Plus Leafs have that 9 playoff cursed to win thingy this year. In 1967 they won it was their 9th playoffs in a row. They are now on their 8th playoff in a row. This year will be 9th! so hockey gods will give the leafs the CURSE TO WIN it this year!
They haven't won because the goaltending just wasn't championship caliber, nor was the blueline either. They didn't have enough snarl in the lineup, not even near enough, no pushback at all. The guy that is now leading them absolutely has to do what Ovechkin did, and that is to no longer ignore other players who do him dirty. I'd even suggest that when they play the Predators next that he lays into Stamkos and shows him who's boss. Everybody in the league saw that and know that they can get away with that crap with him. It's time he demanded respect and not just because of the size of his paycheque.
Kyper is partly right on that , with this core that they have won nothing so far. But they could, with a better defense and better goalie. Now they have those both. He is totally wrong, that Colorado would not sign Mikko Rantanen , the Moose' from 🇫🇮. They will 100% sure sign Mikko. With 8 yrs contract with half a million less yearly than McKinnon. Yearly income over 11 million. He is a franchise player for Colorado, part of their core identity. Period.
Phil Kessel was the leading scorere for the Maple Leafs for 5 years and they ran him out of town too. Maple Leaf fans have no clue what makes a great player
So what? They were never winning with him anyways. I think leaf fans care about winning, not stars on the team. If you aren’t going to win with a player, why keep him?
@@thomascain7587 They weren't winning with Kessel either way. He's not a #1 option on a championship team. If he's your best player, you're doing something wrong.
Luke Fox is not the first to say it, but I cannot understand it. The Berube style is being referred to as boring. I think it's more exciting, less goals in some cases but way more hits and less goals against.
WOW!! Leafs buying into new Head Coach Bareboobie's system after 3 whole games to start the season VS two mediocre non-playoff teams anad an underperforming Devils squad at home > just award Leafs the 2025 Cup right now!! This is truly amazing and totally unexpected, especially with a proven, respected veteran new Coach behind the Leafs bench!! BRILLIANT ANALYSIS FOLKS!!!
Mitch can stay. He's got the fire in his belly still...but he'll have to massively adjust his role on the ice to something that wins playoff games. I'd like to see Tavares help out the 3rd or 4th line, and put Robinson a bit higher.
@@szahmad2416 which will never happen.... A leopard doesn't change his spots. He always skate in circles and shoots it at a players shins. He shys from contact, which is ridiculous since he plays hockey. You signed Matthews and willy, you're stuck with them. Marner is your only movable piece. You resign him, well, rinse and repeat.
Leafs need a power forward. I miss the life stream boys. I hope Toronto could get a second team. Something like sens prices so Leafs fans can invade another stadium.
Corey Perry came in from behind the goalie and jammed his stick into both skates trying to throw him off balance. Then yes he moved cleanly in front of him for the tip in. So clear interference before moving out in front.
They make the effort to paint the crease; use it. Stay out of the paint or it’s goalie interference unless the goalie is also out of the crease. The end.
JB and Sammy are wayyy too homer that it's clouding their judgement, I'm with Nick on this. Why would you think Marner Matthews and Nylander can win ? They've been trying for the last 7-8 yrs now and gotten out of the first round once lol. Nick is right, you gotta tweak it by changing the core.
Everything Justin is saying about Marner is so absurd. How can you laugh at parts of Kyp’s stance on the situation when the Leafs have won ONE SINGLE series??? Why is it so obvious he must stay? They don’t WIN
Marner is staying and will only take 3 million more than he makes now. Easy to get that room in the cap by Tavares taking 6-8 less and trading Lilly - another 3!!!
8 years and counting I don’t think it works JB and it’s not the fact they’re not skilled it’s that you can’t have all that money wrapped up in 4 players and build a team capable of winning and you can’t surrond your superstars with true depth to rely on
30:51 wtf is kyp talking about?? He’s not even a leaf fan right now 😂😂 he’s a Mitch fan walking him to free agency to max out his money, he doesn’t care about leafs success
You can't resign Marner, they signed Willy and he's their over-payed winger going forward, you just can't have 2 wingers making that much. His $12M can be used on another top end D and a 2C.
Sam Bennett is probably the perfect 2C on this team. Adds the bite you're looking for and you can probably get him for $7-$8 million and sign another D.
I dont believe Marner is outshining Matthews. Marner goal was an error by the pens netminder man....guy was way off on his angle. Gave him his cookie. Still a goal is a goal . ...that said I no longer like Marner. Guy is not an elete player man. A good hockey player though but not top talent. Playoffs are a key indicator of a players true talent man.
NO I dont want to see Reilly as the GUY. He fails year over year at that very thing. OEL is the guy. Reilly can't shoot and is awkward with the puck. Also how can Mcmaan be inconsistent in only having played to foooooking games. Reaves should NEVER be in over Mcmaan. GROSS MISCONDUCT
Nylander is the player that can not play for Berube . Nylander was on the ice for that goal standing at center ice with his thumb in his mouth if you tubers would shut up there wou look d not be any whinning
Trade Marner for Crosby. While scoring one of the recent goals against the Flames the scoring player contacted the goalies helmet before the puck went in the net, that one should have been a negated goal so the calls go both ways.
Calgary HAS to play as a team because they don't have any ɓÏģ superstars I know that this "team" thing might be hard to grasp these days, for some people. 😬 🔥🏒🔥
