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Best 12 Volt Impact Driver - Head To Head Test 

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@nickhall1376
@nickhall1376 5 лет назад
Wait a second... You mean to tell me that a head to head competition doesnt involve chucking two drivers together and burning the motors out??? Somebody please tell Wranglerstar
@bradwearsprada4728
@bradwearsprada4728 5 лет назад
Let's be real, wranglerstar is a joke, he's a woodland firefighter who thinks making a work bench makes him a tool expert.
@coltonjacobs5383
@coltonjacobs5383 5 лет назад
bradwearsprada I stopped watching him a while back when he started making a bunch of drama bullshit.
@fat1234568
@fat1234568 5 лет назад
@@coltonjacobs5383 like how he calls anything that uses metric useless?
@classikz
@classikz 5 лет назад
Lol that guy is a hack
@taylorwyant778
@taylorwyant778 4 года назад
He's is more for entertainment than test
@austinmoyer9805
@austinmoyer9805 4 года назад
Wow. This is the first video of yours that I’ve watched. And I can only say wow. Absolutely the best tool comparison video. Insanely thorough and packed with super helpful info
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 4 года назад
Austin Moyer thx watch more Searcy our head To head playlisr
@awesomeness1113
@awesomeness1113 2 года назад
I thought it was calculated and fair. Loved the info about warranty. Never really thought about it like that. If your going for longevity for the right price then you can't beat Rigid. If you're going for compact and productivity then Milwaukee. All around/everything considered, Makita. I think the real question is what do people want answered. Your video gave them many categories to choose from so it's really on the viewer if they don't like the results because all you did in the end is show overall results from multiple categories.
@kswis
@kswis 4 года назад
I picked up the miluakee, for what I do all day the 12v DeWalt couldn't keep up. It hits hard on the 2.0 batt but throw the 4 or even 6 ah in n it absolutely screams. I love it n am begining an assortment. Thanks for the info
@AWAG_FK
@AWAG_FK 5 лет назад
Are any of them made in the USA? I’m a Milwaukee guy myself , but I’ve used them all. This was a very thorough and well done test. Thank you!
@foam27
@foam27 4 года назад
no.
@opie2522
@opie2522 4 года назад
Run time on Milwaukee dropped because you were using the smaller ergonomic battery, they have a larger battery that would have a better comparison compared to the others in that category
@christianpetersen1782
@christianpetersen1782 2 года назад
Excellent review and testing imho. I agree the ranking of the best three need not be used if the buyer has different uses/priorities. For instance I would buy the Bosh for sound level (if not using ear protectors), grip, and illumination. As a hobbyist I don’t need sustained power, speed etc. I rank this testing #1!! Many thanks.
@mrbigberd
@mrbigberd 4 месяца назад
As a pro you don't need maximum power in a 12v tool either. If you're driving lag bolts all day, get a 18v impactor and get the job done. 12v is all about size and weight, but some companies forget this. I can throw a 12v Bosch (or a 12v Milwaukee to a slightly lesser extent) in my toolbelt and almost forget that it's there until I need it. If there's a battery dangling off the bottom, that just isn't going to happen.
@WookieeRage
@WookieeRage 4 года назад
Nicely done. Thank you for explaining your process and reasoning so well!
@psy06
@psy06 5 лет назад
bit disappointed with Hilti in this test. I have that driver and i love it, use it every day and it performs flawlessly.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
psy06 it’s extremely well made
@Diebog
@Diebog Год назад
Curious how the Milwaukee Surge 12v hydraulic impact would of compared.
@Weakeyedominant
@Weakeyedominant 4 года назад
The main problem with 12v is that if you only want 1 battery type you need 18v for circular saws and angle grinders.
@RoboSeal1
@RoboSeal1 5 лет назад
Happy with my M12 Fuel
@reellifewithcinco7858
@reellifewithcinco7858 4 года назад
Great Great video guys, detailed stuff!!!!!!
@gigachad4211
@gigachad4211 5 лет назад
Hey a concord what model is this Makita please and thank you sir?
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
click the link in description - all model numbers are listed there
@alanel6662
@alanel6662 4 года назад
Which makita model is this?
@thaitichi
@thaitichi 5 лет назад
So happy whenever I see a new Concord Carpenter Head to Head. You guys set the bar when it comes to tool reviews. Keep up the amazing work!
@vileguile4
@vileguile4 5 лет назад
Yeah, these are the best!
@yup3398
@yup3398 4 года назад
I agree. So good to not have guys screaming at you while clearly pushing a product along with clickbait titles.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
@James Edward - Brother, please do not list the link to jump ahead to the winner. Let folks watch the video or figure it out for themselves. We have at least 40 hours of testing, writing, filming and editing in this H2H. We want folks to watch the video.
@Rockcal11
@Rockcal11 5 лет назад
A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz Good job .. i know my red winner ;)
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
@James Edward thanks pal
@davidusry5048
@davidusry5048 5 лет назад
@@Rockcal11 always!!!
@GSPirosaki
@GSPirosaki 4 года назад
Here's the link for the winner! 00:01
@Cial
@Cial 3 года назад
Hate people that do that, it's like ruining the ending to a good book.
@paulstoolbox
@paulstoolbox 5 лет назад
You always do a thorough job Rob. I can see a lot of work hours into your reviews. Greatly appreciated!
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
Paul Ricalde www.toolboxbuzz.com/head-to-head/best-12-volt-cordless-impact-driver/
@weldonpinder7295
@weldonpinder7295 3 года назад
I agree
@aaronstone5899
@aaronstone5899 5 лет назад
I find myself reaching for the 12v milwaukee a lot more than i thought i would love that thing
@franklong6269
@franklong6269 7 месяцев назад
I own the M12, and it's a beast. It is easily the best 1/4" impact driver on the market right now.
@BiggMo
@BiggMo 5 лет назад
I love my Bosch. The small size fits in awkward cabinet locations and I really like the trigger control- but several of those tested I haven’t tried, so my opinion is not a comparison
@elektrikahectorfernandezol5341
Yo acabo de vender mi Bosch Gdr 12v-110,y acabo de adquirir el Makita Td 110 tengo que reconocer que la diferencia es muchísima. El makita es muy muy rápido,ergonómico,la precisión del gatillo es fabulosa,y en cuanto a potencia,he llegado a meter tornillos de 8x 250. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-P8f6Le-oOVs.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-C9LD5-nsd9U.html Y el peso es de sólo 1,100 kg intente hacer eso con el Bosch. Y lo he comprado en Amazon por 205€ td110+cargador +2x 4h/h+Macpak. Tengo que darle toda la razón a la personas que han hecho el vídeo. Soy un profesional Electricista con más de 35 años de experiencia. Un saludo desde España.
@workisfun...2438
@workisfun...2438 4 года назад
Agreed! I am a Makita all the way platform guy, except for my 12 volt. Bosch for the same reason, very compact, very easy to fit into those tight areas and drag along into an attic. Plus, I haven't seen a better 12 volt platform flashlight than Bosch's either, absolutely love that design!
@coolrich8781
@coolrich8781 4 года назад
I’ve got the old 12V Bosh with a brushed motor. I’ve had it over 11 years and only had 1 fail with 1 out of the 2 batteries it originally came with. It doesn’t have an LED light like the new ones have but I rarely need an LED for it and when I do need an LED, I have a LED head mounted one for attic work. I bought a back up battery once one of my original batteries failed, after about 5 years. I used to use that Bosch 12V Impact drill to drive 5/16 screws through building structure “red iron.” I always needed 2 5/16 self tapping screws to go through red iron cause if I only used 1, it would tear off the heads on those screws through red iron. I would use the first 5/16 self tapping screw to go halfway through the red iron, back it out and dump it, than use another 5/16 self tapping screw to finish the hole and support my hangers for commercial ductwork hanging straps. Sure, I had to charge those batteries a few times a day BUT it did the job. Because of the quality build of the 12V impact drill I decided to step my game up and buy the 18V Impact Drill and 18V Hammer Drill kit. I “used” to be a Dewalt fanboy until I had an issue with a 14V nicad system. I owned that Dewalt Drill for about 14 months but only used it about 30 days in total cause I fell in love with the 12 and 18V Bosch lighter lit/ion battery system. One day, 14 months after the initial purchase of the Dewalt Nicad system, I tried to use it and it no longer had a variable trigger system. It was either off or full speed. I figured, no worries cause the Dewalt had a 3 year warranty and I had ALL THE RECEIPTS. I brought the Dewalt Drill to one of there local drop off authorized repair shops. After a day or so of inspecting the drill I was informed that it would cost ME about $50-60 to replace the trigger assembly. I argued with the customer service rep that out of 14 months, I only used it for MAYBE a month. The rep said that the repairs weren’t covered under Dewalt 3 year warranty because the trigger was considered a “consumable part,” (normal wear and tear part), and consumable parts were only covered the first year. I was LIVID because after purchasing that Dewalt, I discovered the 12V Bosch, loved it so much so I purchased the 18V Bosch Impact and Drill/Driver combo kit, so I rarely used that Dewalt in 14 months of ownership. I told the rep, “it was a defective product because it failed with only 30 days of actual usage.” The rep stood his ground on charging me to repair the drill at cost so I asked for my drill back and contacted Dewalt headquarters. I presented my dilemma to them and they sent me a prepaid shipping postage label to send the drill to them. I told them I was in the industry for over 20 years at the time and owned many Dewalt products but was willing to change the yellow and black brand for the blue brand (Bosch), and would let all contractors know what I experienced with their crappy warranty AND would go on as many forums as possible, that I knew of and slam their warranty and product. Dewalt corporate sent me a refurbished drill with 2 new 14V batteries, new charger and new case. I was pleased they chose to go that route but the whole incident left a bad taste in my mouth that I gave the whole Dewalt kit to my older brother who is a DIY and not a tradesmen. That must have been around 2008 and since than I’ve NEVER purchased another Dewalt product. I now ONLY use Bosch and Hilti. I had a problem once with my 18V Bosch Impactor within its 3 year warranty period. I called Bosch, explained the issue. They took my credit card info, in case I didn’t return the defective 18V Impactor, sent me a preprinted shipping label the same day and shipped out a brand new drill to me the next day. I received the drill a few days later, used the same box the drill came in, added the preprinted shipping postage label and dropped it off at UPS the next day. Bosch stands behind their warranty and doesn’t have all the fine print with exclusions listed as does Dewalt. Proud owner of all tools Bosch.👌👍😉
@raunefare
@raunefare 4 года назад
I have the Bosch at home and the Milwaukee at work. The Bosch seems so slow after using the Milwaukee.
@BiggMo
@BiggMo 4 года назад
benjamin hansen: which would you say in more accurate ? And what’s your opinion about Milwaukees controls?
@tomcieszenski7249
@tomcieszenski7249 5 лет назад
I'm basically stuck with Milwaukee M18 everything it seems like. I really like the line but as a finish carpenter I can run up to 7 or 8 different cordless tools every day. I usually have two batteries charging at the same time that can be used in any of them. That sort of makes it hard not to be brand loyal unless you want to deal with 8 different battery chargers and constantly not being able to use a tool because you have dead batteries. Beware on the purchase of your first cordless tool. It may end up being your entire tool line. Milwaukee makes good long lasting pro grade tools though so I'm good with my line.
@AnkurSethi108
@AnkurSethi108 4 года назад
Aren't the 18v impact drivers too powerful for your work?
@kundetjenesten
@kundetjenesten 4 года назад
@@AnkurSethi108 Putting it on a lower setting, he can adjust the power and gain battery life. OneKey makes that even more versatile. 12V is nice in many ways, but it is always easier to downsize power from a tool than trying to get that ultralight, cute little lady tool do heavy duty jobs.
@laneweaver3562
@laneweaver3562 4 года назад
I don't know if you know this, but they make adapters so to make any brand of battery work on another brand's tools.
@bassheadlife492
@bassheadlife492 4 года назад
@@AnkurSethi108 I love my m12 lady tools, m18 too!
@CK2957
@CK2957 3 года назад
In the same boat but with DeWALT. Not complaining though. Every tool I own from DeWALT have been preforming great! Glad I decided to go with them when I first got tools. Batteries definitely determine brand loyalty though lol
@carlmccoy662
@carlmccoy662 5 лет назад
If you have to carry one of these around in your tool bag, you want to consider the weight and the bulk. Precious space in a bag that is already too heavy, especially going up a ladder. Also fitting into tight work spaces is EXTREMELY important. Other considerations are the availability and assortment of additional tools within that battery platform.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
Carl McCoy size and weight are here- www.toolboxbuzz.com/head-to-head/best-12-volt-cordless-impact-driver/
@fatherfirefighter7751
@fatherfirefighter7751 5 лет назад
You guys are simply hands down the best at thorough and proper comparisons. Although I will say I am still waiting on the 1/2" impact comparison......just saying.
@crunkosaur
@crunkosaur 5 лет назад
they are carpenters not mechanics
@fatherfirefighter7751
@fatherfirefighter7751 5 лет назад
@@crunkosaur ......Who do tool reviews and comparisons. The 1/2" impact is a tool
@DMC888
@DMC888 5 лет назад
@@fatherfirefighter7751 Carpenters use those heavy duty impact drivers for decking and tree houses don't they?
@fatherfirefighter7751
@fatherfirefighter7751 5 лет назад
@@DMC888 I would say yes they do
@majstrujeme8352
@majstrujeme8352 5 лет назад
Father Firefighter yes but really socket impacts are mechanic specific tools if you don’t mind the fatter handle Milwaukee stubby 12 volts are great.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
If you'd like to see some of the other H2H tests we've done they all live here: www.toolboxbuzz.com/category/head-to-head/
@toolshopguy2080
@toolshopguy2080 5 лет назад
One of the few youtubers that keep a high quality standard for there videos instead of rushing out videos everyday. Keep up the great job you guy's. I definitely appreciate the hard work.
@jrod264winmag
@jrod264winmag 4 года назад
As a professional electrician and hobby mechanic I've been using Milwaukee tools for 20+ years, never been disappointed
@vasilhrisca5536
@vasilhrisca5536 4 года назад
Jess Roberts not even when the company was sold to China??
@vasilhrisca5536
@vasilhrisca5536 4 года назад
Karol Palazej in your book that has only one page that shows how big of a fanboi you are! Lol
@davo7512
@davo7512 4 года назад
Vasil Hrisca what did Milwaukee do to hurt you?
@RomboutVersluijs
@RomboutVersluijs 4 года назад
IS it normal that an Milwaukee m12 impact driver has this high pitch sound or whining sound when its active?
@davo7512
@davo7512 4 года назад
Rombout Versluijs if you pull the trigger enough that the motor is starting to engage but doesn’t spin does it make the noise?
@WarmongerSmurfOnXbox
@WarmongerSmurfOnXbox 5 лет назад
I paused on their table to do the points myself (lower is better): 1) Milwaukee 10pt 2) Makita 11pt This cuts out the useless categories of ergonomics, decibels, and price. The ergonomics is subjective. I like the thicker handles of the in battery handle, than the thin handles. Decibels only matter in extremely limited places. Price should not be on the list at all. You look at the list see what you can afford and go with the highest rated on the list that you can afford. That being said I love these videos. They are very in-depth.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
My friend - that is why we share the information with you - chose what's important to you and make your own decision. Well-done!
@ryancasey4807
@ryancasey4807 3 года назад
Bosch has actually been doing the three light option on their tools since the early 2000's :) Just a heads up
@hornetf18
@hornetf18 5 лет назад
I’ve found the Milwaukee is very fast and powerful, as well as compact, but heats up a lot, likely due to the compact size not allowing space for vents or cooling.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
We saw similar findings
@jascospeed
@jascospeed 5 лет назад
Then you'll hate the rest even more. Milwaukee ran the coolest in this test, look at the temp chart in this video.
@danfd26233
@danfd26233 5 лет назад
Whenever someone asks my opinion on what tool to buy I dig up one of your comparison vids and have them watch it. You guys honestly give the best tool reviews. That being said... I go with Milwaukee for the 12 V line and Makita for the 18V line in my shop..
@awesomearizona-dino
@awesomearizona-dino 5 лет назад
As always... Awesome test...Thank you for all the efforts to help us make INFORMED decisions.
@rob-24971
@rob-24971 4 месяца назад
Never liked this channel. Never really show anything, just loves his own voice. Besides, not all information is correct. The Bosch has dual speed and hasn’t just gotten onto the 3 light option, the older brushed version had it also, way before its competitors. Need to get details correct if you want people to follow.
@procrastinator1842
@procrastinator1842 5 лет назад
I enjoyed this video, but there is something missing, the whole purpose of ditching 18V in favour of 12V is size and weight savings. I've had Ridgid and now Milwaukee and if I can't be bothered putting my tool belt on, it fits in my work pants side pocket, not to mention it fits in my tool belt pocket. The block style battery on these other 12V tools is a step in the wrong direction.
@joshuasteele5108
@joshuasteele5108 4 года назад
Exactly the milwaukee in my opinion has the best ergonomics and that's the whole point of these tools. If i want to drive a ton of fasteners im not using a 12v tool.
@donwooss
@donwooss 5 лет назад
You guys are the best reviewers!
@jamesadams7131
@jamesadams7131 5 лет назад
Team Teal, Makita for the win
@theitalian556
@theitalian556 3 года назад
My Makita cordless ratchet is bad ass! Very happy with it. I still think Milwaukee makes a better impact driver but its close.
@ToolsInAction4u
@ToolsInAction4u 3 года назад
Watching Milwaukee thrash the competition just to “lose” out to Makita because it’s louder and more expensive. Everyone should know not to buy tools full price. The Milwaukee kit (tool, battery and charger) can be bought for $89 and will do just about anything you need it to. Nothing against Makita but I think one of the biggest perks of the 12v niche is not having the bulkier batteries. Makita still has the bulky battery design while most of the other drills offer the smaller battery design.
@cfltitan
@cfltitan 4 года назад
Excellent video. I LOVE my Milwaukee M12 fuel impact driver! This thing is unbelievably powerful and fast. When you watch for their sales they're priced very reasonably too.
@MangoGino
@MangoGino 5 лет назад
Awesome review! I like the Makita 12v, but I think their Sub-compact is on point and way better. Being pretty much the same tool, but having the advantage of using 18v batteries which I already have lots of. I can then use these same batteries with their outdoor and other (18vx2) 36v tools. Pretty happy with Makita's way of putting their consumers first and great design ergonomics. It's not always about the higher numbers that the marketing guy decides to put on the stat sheet.
@realMDizzy
@realMDizzy 4 года назад
Yeah I wish they made more subcompacts!
@RomboutVersluijs
@RomboutVersluijs 4 года назад
Can is ask what a subcompact tool is?
@austenhatch3285
@austenhatch3285 2 года назад
@@RomboutVersluijs simply the same tool redesigned to be as small as possible. Makita has a couple sub compact versions of their 18v tools which make them small but powerful
@RomboutVersluijs
@RomboutVersluijs 2 года назад
@@austenhatch3285 thanks for the info!
@carlcox7332
@carlcox7332 2 года назад
I love my old 12v Makita. That thing has been a battle ship. I have 2 18v Makita and 2 12v Bosch but the little Makita is my favorite unless I'm driving lags or deckmates all day. A 4ah battery will last all week on that thing. And the ballance is great.
@akira5982
@akira5982 4 года назад
Been using my m18 milwaukee gear daily since 2008 installing solar, thousands of roof screws & still using the same impact & drill only replacing brushesswhen needed, & still using the same 4 3ah batteries 12 years old which are now starting go under heavy angle grinder use, only now may 2020 i just bought new gear but the best thing about milwaukee is the massive range of gear & the batteries are still still the same type just more powerfull so u can use it with ur old gear, go Milwaukee 👍
@tontakely
@tontakely 5 лет назад
I appreciate this test. I have the Dewalt 12v Screwdriver, and I love it! Now I know that getting the Dewalt 12v impact driver will not be a waste of money. Thanks!
@barrylinkiewich9688
@barrylinkiewich9688 4 года назад
Eehhhh, I'll stick with my Milwaukee. IMHO the slight difference in noise doesn't matter because you should be wearing ear protection at these volumes anyways and I didn't find anything special about the Makita ergos when I tried one, maybe if you have little hands it fits better? I'm sure it's a good tool but the Makita performance lagged behind the Milwaukee in most of the tests and honestly, that's where it counts for me.
@RidgelineJames
@RidgelineJames 4 года назад
yeah I don't know what the fuss is about the grip. I consider myself to have small hands and it truly doesn't even fly on my radar how thick the grip is. I bought the M12 stuff for the weight savings and size. officially my m18 impact and drill collect dust in my shop.
@Sparkystacoma
@Sparkystacoma 5 лет назад
I have a 3XL hand. I love my Milwaukee as my hand actually fits there with or with out gloves on. Yeah it is loud, but I use mine on Simpson lags for hanging tvs and it has enough finesse for receptacles and switches. I have used the makita and Dewalt and they're great tools. But I'll stick with my Milwaukee and the 3.0 batteries really last a long time. It eats the 2.0 and 1.5 batteries alive tho! Great video I'm waiting for the next one.
@PatriotPaulUSA
@PatriotPaulUSA 4 года назад
I have been using my LXT Makitas for over 10 yrs and just keep adding tools. I am always the one guy not using red or yellow stuff but my tools and batteries just keep blasting away.
@bradleyhannesson1973
@bradleyhannesson1973 4 года назад
patriotpaul me too!👍🏻
@josephmartin4904
@josephmartin4904 7 месяцев назад
No way man Bosch blows em all away. I know I have every impact drivers Made and Bosch out lasts and out preforms. Milwaukee is also great. Sometimes I feel that Milwaukee is a bit better than Bosch but then I always find that Bosch is where my hands always go to.
@sylvana393
@sylvana393 5 лет назад
Have done 3 kitchen cabinet installs with the Bosch. Has plenty of power for this and is very light and compact.
@deathcometh61
@deathcometh61 3 года назад
Just picked up milwaukee 2553 kit for $100. Impact, 2mah battery charger bag. I do hvac for a living. My needs was something sub sub compact. Doing fur down units I have no space to attach the fan motor. We also attach to unit to the ceiling with 3in lag bolts. Something compact, powerful, and time. Grip is not a big thing. One guy holding a unit over his head and trying to get 2 leg bolt in fast, that is a bigger selling point. A 2.5 tonn unit can weight 70lbs. I've been the guy holding and driving lags. It sucks when someone cant get drive the lag home. After my project is done (9month from now) the impact will be my service drill. 4 to 8 5/16 screws for a unit should be no problem for it.
@codelicious6590
@codelicious6590 4 года назад
I recently went for the Bosch 12v impact set just because the price was not that much more than cheaper, my need is fairly light duty and I had older 18v that I was very happy with. Plus, I got a killer deal on the reciprocating saw (12v) and it is awesome.
@John-do9ei
@John-do9ei Год назад
If I had taken these internet recommendations seriously, my work would be a lot less enjoyable. You guys prefer the style of tool where the weight is like a dumbbell, but the reality of maneuvering a tool, where you have to fight that inertia, over hours working on a project is a significant cumulative strain. I've used all of these tools, and with the battery life, center of gravity in the palm, better light, and solid utility, the Bosch 12v should rank a lot higher in this, but it doesn't. And you unfairly weight a task that you should be doing with a completely different class of tool.
@MustPassTruck
@MustPassTruck 4 года назад
Still waiting for a 12v drill/hammer drill head to head.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
ARTICLE Link - www.toolboxbuzz.com/head-to-head/best-12-volt-cordless-impact-driver/
@yangevening
@yangevening 4 года назад
been using Bosch for 3 yrs, perfect driver
@UNKN0WN_YT
@UNKN0WN_YT 5 лет назад
I love 12 volts and went through a few of them before I settled on a set. I first had the MIlwaukee, then Makita, and then Bosch. I’m speaking of the drill/driver set. The Milwaukee and the Bosch have the same grip, which is too uncomfortable (and I have pretty good-sized hands), so I returned them. I loved the Makita. But in the end, I ended up with............the Makita, but....the 18-volt subcompact. They’re actually smaller than the 12-volt. The drill is actually smaller. And more power. And I can use the 18 volt batteries I already have.
@thetruth5210
@thetruth5210 5 лет назад
@Greg D My guess is if you’re complaining about the grip you can’t palm a basketball.
@orijimi
@orijimi 5 лет назад
@@thetruth5210 There's more to it than that. The battery takes up so much space that the rubber overmolding is super thin on 12v Milwaukee.
@UNKN0WN_YT
@UNKN0WN_YT 5 лет назад
@@thetruth5210 acutally, I have pretty big hands. I can palm a basketball. But, as Orijimi said, the battery in the Milwaukee and Bosch takes up so much space. And if you want to put in one of the bigger batteries, then you have a fat grip, AND you have a battery that takes on the form factor of the Makita and DeWalt. But the Makita and DeWalt have much more comfortable grips. And according to this video, the Makita is a better impact driver anyway. So take that!
@thetruth5210
@thetruth5210 5 лет назад
@Greg D It depends on what you plan on doing with your 12V impact. If you are an electrician and you’re out doing a trim and you’re going to spend most of your day driving 6/32 and 8/32 screws do you really need something that can drive an 8 inch lag bolt? Because that power demand happens every time that you pull the trigger. I can install wedge anchors in concrete floors for data racking or audio racking, install wedge anchors in masonry on the side of a building to hold up CCTV cameras and install 3 1/2 inch lag bolts and a two by fours all with a Bosch PS32 it also fits into my Veto Pro Pac easily. Watching these videos is like watching a dodge ram with a Cummins diesel in it pull over a barn and then saying this is the best truck that’s available. So how many barns do you pull over? I need something that can do my job reliably and with longevity which is why I own the Bosch PS 32 and the Hilti SID 2-A. I would not wish on my worst enemy and endurance test of driving 6/32 screws into plastic fiberglass or sheet metal to have a legitimate endurance test because each one of these tools could drive hundreds if not thousands of fasteners. In high-speed low torque scenarios like the one I just described that most electricians are doing the Bosch and the Hilti outshined the competition! P.S. Also as an electrician if I have to drill down in a scenario from a one gang box opening into the basement in a home if I have the Makita or the Dewalt that is another trip back out to the van, but if you have the Bosch or the Milwaukee they fit through the single gang hole and with a regular 6 inch paddle bit Along with a 8 inch drill extension you don’t need to make a return trip out to the van (to get a 2’ or 4’ bit) and all of that fits in your tool bag. If wasting time to get better ergonomics is your thing or you’re working in the shop environment knock yourself out, but for those working out in the field it’s a simple choice. IMHO Just a thought...
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
Here’s a link to our other Head-to-Head tests: www.toolboxbuzz.com/category/head-to-head/
@designer-garb572
@designer-garb572 5 лет назад
I love these video's, so thorough and so fair, a bit of a Dewalt fanboy but Makita has been catching my eye lately
@ariefdsesprit3409
@ariefdsesprit3409 3 года назад
..yes.. i experience the same situation.. :-)
@meanodustino9563
@meanodustino9563 5 лет назад
As a mechanic it’s Milwaukee all day. Dont care about grip much or battery life i have 6 batteries most 4.0 and 3.0 compacts. just as long as I can get my job done faster. The m12 kills everyone else in terms of tool quantity. Lights, impacts. Ratchets. Drills. Tire inflators. Saws And the list gets bigger. No other tool brand offers it other than tool trucks at 3x price. m18 has no place in a automotive shop only for the big impacts
@paulsallee4889
@paulsallee4889 5 лет назад
@@JacoZawinul Milwaukee
@r.a.p.k.models4160
@r.a.p.k.models4160 5 лет назад
Yeah bro
@konaguzzi1
@konaguzzi1 5 лет назад
their grease gun is not too bad either although I tend to use just an old style pump gun
@charredskeleton
@charredskeleton 5 лет назад
On a car I agree. The job is either light enough for 12v or heavy enough for air. The profile of the 12v fuel lineup can't be beat.
@Nizizombie
@Nizizombie 5 лет назад
Agreed but I got both ridged and Milwaukee and they’re pretty similar in build quality
@cmal90
@cmal90 5 лет назад
Milwaukee and Bosch are the only consideration for me due to their size. The others for me are a lazy attempt from the manufacturers and are just a bit smaller than their 18v cousins. Take a look at the Milwaukee and Bosch again. They do all what the others do if not better and are significantly smaller, which has come in useful on numerous apoccasions. I own all Dewalt gear except for a Bosch 12v impact.
@kimnimbus1291
@kimnimbus1291 5 лет назад
Another great review and video! Thank you for taking the time to make this head-to-head and look forward to your upcoming videos 👍👍👍🙏♥️
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
thanks Kim
@gunmetlx7917
@gunmetlx7917 2 года назад
I didn't know Joe Pesci knew so much about tools. J/k, very helpful video and great channel and presentation. Thank you.
@drewt1081
@drewt1081 4 года назад
Spent half the day shopping for these, dammit! lol Actually you just made my day, thank you.
@alvilla701
@alvilla701 5 лет назад
I prefer Milwaukee or a Bosch, the others are to big (you will be better with an 18V with a 2.0 amp battery), Milwaukee has more power but it is bigger, bosch is better for phillips screws and still has enough power for 3 inches screws
@mangkanor1261
@mangkanor1261 5 лет назад
I had bought my makita driver about a year from now it’s nice to know how it really fair with other tools, thank you for the that well made review.
@MrArcticPOWER
@MrArcticPOWER 5 лет назад
Another amazing head to head test as always. I'm a Dewalt fan and I don't mind admitting the're not always the best tools once I've watch your tests. You guys seems unbiased and trustworthy that's for sure.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
This one is pretty dam good!
@aggresive_hef6103
@aggresive_hef6103 Год назад
dewalt is my go to brand as well i think the only better brand is Milwaukee but it cost way more
@gungadinn
@gungadinn 5 лет назад
A little surprised that the Ridgid didn't fare close to the Milwaukee as the design team between Rigid and Milwaukee work closely. IMO, any of the tools that are fully supported with complimentary tools like drills, sealant guns and such, unlike HF tools where there is no cross platform tool are a a plus. This group includes, Bosch, De Walt, Makita, Milwaukee, Ridgid. When it comes to life time warranties, I always purchased Fluke multimeters due to the life time warranty. Had an issue with a 4 year old Fluke 87 III meter to discover that Fluke defines lifetime, as the lifetime of the tool model, not the ownership of the tool. Caveat emptor.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
they don't really work close together - Ridgid gets older technology but their teams are separate
@youthised58
@youthised58 5 лет назад
Do a shaft wobble test where you look head-on at a drll bit to see if it wobble while turning..
@BiggMo
@BiggMo 5 лет назад
Chang Man: this is known as run-out. It’s not relevant in a hex style chunk designed for drivers. It is important in three jaw chunks like on a drill
@youthised58
@youthised58 5 лет назад
@@BiggMo Thanks Big Mo.
@Savantjazzcollective
@Savantjazzcollective 5 лет назад
Don't worry about a sound chamber Db reading, that is not a real world situation. frequencies given off that resonate stronger in a garage or build site situation are most important, which you have actually done. Good job!
@damianooi8261
@damianooi8261 2 года назад
My bosch GDR 120LI just arrived... And I am watching this just to see how good it is
@foxwood67
@foxwood67 5 лет назад
Great thorough reviews. I love em. Since i own 15 or so M18 batteries i dont think ill be changing to the M12 lineup. Keep up the great work. How about oscillating tools 🙂
@monbaby77
@monbaby77 10 месяцев назад
where is weight comparison? it's the most important factor for 12v
@michaelc7283
@michaelc7283 5 лет назад
Hi, This was a great 12v comparison on all these tool brands. I like the look but now that all these 18v & 20v are so compact i don't really have the need for a 12v (drill or impact) anymore. Wow, the milwaukee fan base are going to have a cow knowing that it came second place, LOL.... I don't have to worry i use both DeWalt 20v and Milwaukee 18v. I'm happy with both brands. You are right dewalt does have the best grip on their tools. Thanks for all the hard work put into this video.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
Good point - my newest 18v is pretty small and with a 2Ah battery its fairly light too
@michaelc7283
@michaelc7283 5 лет назад
@@ConcordCarpenter Yes, i also use the new 3.0 batteries (m18 & 20v) and it's not too bad.
@alankauth
@alankauth 5 лет назад
If you get Mikwaukee, always get the larger amperage battery and don't bother with the smaller entry batteries. Adds functionality (and more total power plus longer run time) by being able to stand them up. That standing up is a big deal in actual usage. Could even be a reason to use the slide design. Yes, you don't have to stand them up, but all things being equal. I think there are 5.0 amp hour batteries available now for Mikwaukee and worth every penny.
@landscaperconnection
@landscaperconnection 5 лет назад
have to say, the Milwaukee warranty is second to none. I've had tools WELL outside the 5 year warranty and they fix or replace the whole tool no questions asked and shipped both ways for free. Also think an area missed here was size of tool, some of these 12v tools are dam near the same size as an 18v. Nonetheless another outstanding battle completed by your team!
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
Everest Landscape none are larger than an 18v. BOSCH is smallest
@Mack_Dingo
@Mack_Dingo 2 года назад
@@ConcordCarpenter were they all they same battery capacity? I know you handicap the milwaukee with low AH batteries
@LostinYTblackhole
@LostinYTblackhole 5 лет назад
We don’t want 12v we want 18v test🤦‍♂️
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
we did one awhile back and are due
@denisk886
@denisk886 5 лет назад
I love my makita impact driver!
@adamthomas7232
@adamthomas7232 5 лет назад
Thanks for the thorough review! I would have really liked to see Metabo (not Metabo HPT) do better. I’ve had a Milwaukee M12 Fuel impact for several years now and just love it. I don’t have especially big hands and don’t find the grip uncomfortable at all.
@groovytunez8854
@groovytunez8854 5 лет назад
Of course, you don't find the grip uncomfortable... like a few minutes of use. Too much top bodyweight and a thicker or bigger grip with constant use especially reach up or out, It takes a toe out of you. For example, hold the m12 impact out and lock your elbow. Now flip it and hold it upside down ( lock the elbow ). I feel ya right? OH yeah, left ( for left hand ) it is uncomfortable. I feel unsafe because of my index finger might click it on the reverse. Other than that, I Iuv it! Furthermore, the belt clip holder is insecure and can drop you like a gf . It hurts. Fudge! scratches cheap-ass red paint slap on. I Luv big boobs and no ass! :0 Have a day.
@histguy101
@histguy101 2 года назад
Some of these lesser available brands like Metabo and Metabo HPT don't have their 12v line widely available in the US, so these are ancient and/or entry level offerings compared against the latest and greatest from Milwaukee and DeWalt.
@ronnyraygunz8718
@ronnyraygunz8718 4 года назад
Milwaukee is best. Speed equals money. Plus the power and durability.
@toolskii
@toolskii 3 года назад
Possible Impact Wrenches Head to Head for the best ones?
@RRENH
@RRENH 5 лет назад
Okay... I think you guys have earned the right to start wearing the white lab coats going forward...
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
White lab coats and tool belts - like it!
@mattrickard3716
@mattrickard3716 Год назад
3 years later and this video is still able to put all of the marketing hype into perspective. I can't complain about being poor and then go and splash out on Milwaukee when you've proved that a Makita will do the job. This is the info that guys like me need to see to know which battery system/brand to go with.
@kasper7106
@kasper7106 5 лет назад
i have the 20v Dewalt set but i find myself reaching for the 12v Milwaukee tools 90 percent of the time. They have more than enough power to do most of task I come across
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
kasper7106 agreed
@lbyoung8420
@lbyoung8420 5 лет назад
kasper7106 I agree, I have over a dozen of the Dewalt 20 volt all brushless and they’re fantastic, but I honestly prefer the ease of the smaller M12 lineups Fuel impact and hammer drill.
@vasilhrisca5536
@vasilhrisca5536 4 года назад
LB Young keep up with DEWALT bro! Too many are buying into a Chinese company.
@l00nybin
@l00nybin 3 года назад
@@vasilhrisca5536 Ummm... the 12V DeWalt Extreme that was tested (the DCF801) is made in China.
@DavesElectricMotor
@DavesElectricMotor 5 лет назад
Now compare all their 12v hydraulic options
@scottmacfarlane2805
@scottmacfarlane2805 5 лет назад
Nice video, a big part of 12v tools imo is the size and weight otherwise why would they exist. Although you have ergonomics as a category this should be spread over 3 or 4 different categories as this is very important with a 12v tool. Some of these on display here are bordering on 18v size.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
Great input thank you!!
@thetruth5210
@thetruth5210 5 лет назад
You think Rob is going to hand Big Blue two wins straight out of the gate? You obviously haven’t been objectively watching this channel for the past two years.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
@@thetruth5210 Aint that the truth ;)
@supremekizzle
@supremekizzle 5 лет назад
I totally agree. Many here are saying that ergonomics are useless and it's all about power. Why are you even buying a 12v tool then?
@tombrown3445
@tombrown3445 5 лет назад
Great video ! The comments are hilarious , Apparently all the Milwaukee fans did this same exact test and got much different results. Stop whining ! So you bought Milwaukee , cool that doesn't make it the best.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
Tom Brown haha right!
@WCW4469
@WCW4469 5 лет назад
Great comparo for the 12V impact drivers. Will we see the Milwaukee 12v Surge against the first place Makita, just for fun??
@perrinekld7451
@perrinekld7451 5 лет назад
I have already 5 different blue bosch 12v tools in a big systainer. With 2 different size batteries... I don't know why I'm looking this video.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
Pzlsi Koleia because you love tools!
@evanepp
@evanepp 5 лет назад
Awesome Testing guys! Thanks for your time and effort to make these extremely informative videos!
@JasonPrice1
@JasonPrice1 5 лет назад
Rigid is the clear choice for the home gamer, especially when you consider that HD sells it in a kit with a 12v drill, two batteries and the charger for as low as $99 CAD and even fewer freedom bucks. I have the Rigid kit and I am fully satisfied with the purchase as I am just a home gamer. I have a Ryobi P238 brushless impact driver so when I need serious power, I have it. The Rigid does a great job at the smaller tasks without risking destroying things like an 18v impact driver can, even with the 3 speeds that are on the P238. I quite like your testing methodology and the videos but I would consider having two categories for "best". One for the pro which has all the measured categories accounted for and one for home that drops things like speed and battery capacity and foolish things like the 8" lag bolt test. Home users care about price, comfort and practicality. Changing to add this kind of consideration still puts the Makita at #1 but would move the Dewalt to 2nd and the Rigid to 3rd and many of the others don't change place at all. I only bring this up as these comparison tests are the best out there but not all your viewers are going to be able to write up their own spreadsheet and make formulas for things. You have definitely had other reviews where if you dropped some of the contractor/professional demanded aspects off the tests, there would be a more clear choice for home gamers and not leave a viewer feeling like they have to buy something that is twice the tool than what they really need. mfgr ergonomics decibels price subtotals Place Makita 2 1 2 5 1 Dewalt 1 4 4 9 2 Ridgid 6 3 1 10 3 Bosch 3 2 7 12 4 Hilti 5 7 2 14 5 Milwaukee 4 5 6 15 6 Metabo HPT 5 6 5 16 7 Metabo 5 8 8 21 8
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
Great advice thanks
@drreason2927
@drreason2927 4 года назад
I enthusiastically bought Dewalt's driver when it came out... and took it back after half a day's work. Thanks to your show I will give Makita a try. Thanks!
@ariefdsesprit3409
@ariefdsesprit3409 3 года назад
..just what i think.. been Dewalt fan, but Makita cacth the eyes.. :-)
@jps101574
@jps101574 5 лет назад
Good review. However, since these are 12V tools, I think overall tool size and weight with battery should have been a ranking criteria. Your reviewers might like the slide pack design, but it comes at a cost by adding size to the tool. I have found the stem pack design great for getting into small places and drilling at angles where the slide packs will not allow.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
jps101574 great point, it’s in article but failed to mention here!
@colinmurphy3724
@colinmurphy3724 5 лет назад
Can't wait to see a 12V Cordless Drill comparison!
@charlemarcharlemar2401
@charlemarcharlemar2401 2 года назад
"...12 volt cordless driver".................I must ask.........is there a 12 volt driver that is NOT cordless?????
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 2 года назад
Everyone’s a critic
@jamespremo1
@jamespremo1 5 лет назад
A category that should be considered heavily is how large the 12v offerings are in each brands lineup. I have recently switched to Milwaukee M12 for size and weight. Their catalog of 12v offerings is impressive. My M18 chargers for my blower, 10 inch sliding miter saw and sawzall also charge my M12 batteries. My Flexvolt chargers also charge my 20v max batteries. My point is that the platform is a huge consideration. Not just the individual tool. For professionals anyway.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 лет назад
Great points - and advice
@danmoreton1788
@danmoreton1788 Год назад
I started out with Bosch. So maybe I am biased. That being said I wanted a tool that was was easy to manage for over head work. I am older so this was an important for me.
@mrbigberd
@mrbigberd 4 месяца назад
You are hardly alone. The whole point of 12v is weight and size. If I wanted power, I'd pick up my 18v tools. Bosch is super lightweight compared to everyone else and smaller too.
@aaronrepper7649
@aaronrepper7649 5 лет назад
I choose Milwaukee,not just cause it's a solid contender,but they are always inovating, they have 6.0 ah battery for m12,and super expansive line up,that probably has more tools than the rest of the line up combined.
@neroddragon
@neroddragon 2 года назад
Slowly understanding why it's important to like comment subscribe. Thank you!
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 2 года назад
thx
@LetsGoHelio
@LetsGoHelio 4 года назад
Damn this is the best tool review I’ve ever seen. Bravo!
@gemini6620
@gemini6620 Год назад
I have the Metabo HPT in this video and adore the thing. It was a bit saddening to be it perform so poorly here. :(
@timgaskey2258
@timgaskey2258 Год назад
I have one too love it, although it's not made for driving lag bolts so the test is kind of dumb if you ask me
@CrimeVid
@CrimeVid 5 лет назад
The little Bosch is by far the most comfortable for me
@piercer4882
@piercer4882 5 лет назад
We have been using 12v bosch drivers (not impact) at my work for years.. I find they are a great driver and would definitely recommend it. . I wouldn't mind trying out some that you recommend in your videos though
@nuclearexplosion5841
@nuclearexplosion5841 5 лет назад
Milwaukee has bigger batteries and is way above and beyond with the rest of their lineup and even an oil impulse driver in 12v
@focusonthefocus
@focusonthefocus 5 лет назад
Surprised that Skil isn't included in this, but metabo is. Would be delightful to see your opinion on the 12v Impact.
@toddfratzel3569
@toddfratzel3569 5 лет назад
Daniel McGlaughlin big difference between Skil and Metabo. Skil has been invited but they pass as they know their stuff is more DIY grade. Metabo is a big commercial grade tool company.
@focusonthefocus
@focusonthefocus 5 лет назад
Todd Fratzel, that’s news to me. But I’m new to the DIY game. I did not know metabo was pro grade! Are they a popular brand with pros? All I see is yellow and red around my area. I was interested in seeing Skil due to the surprising positive reviews I’ve watched as the brand competes with pro-grade tools... but none of them as comprehensive as this channel...
@toddfratzel3569
@toddfratzel3569 5 лет назад
@@focusonthefocus It can be confusing. "METABO" is a European company that has deep roots in grinders and heavy commercial applications like rotary hammers. "Metabo HPT" is the newly rebranded Hitachi brand which is still a higher level PRO grade tool compared to Skil (with the exception to the Skil Circular Saw and Tablesaw).
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