Picked a Kioti CS2520, and I have absolutely no complaints. The JD 1025 with loader and belly mower was $30k. Kubota was $28k. Kioti was $19k, with a better warranty and greater loader capacity and more hydraulic capability.
WOW!!!!!!!! Looks like a lot of research was put into this video. I really enjoyed all the info, thanks so much for sharing! Again… can’t wait for your next one :)
Got my massey 1725 brand new in 2022 with the loader, backhoe, and 6 attachments with 0% for 84 mo for $28,000.. I got the full Bxpanded lineup also.. It's awesome.
❤You are the Awesomest Awesome person. Turning 66 in June and I want a sub compact Tractor. My hubbies is way big for me. This video helps me so much!!!
Great breakdown - As a note, Kioti is assembled in Wendell, North Carolina. Not china or Korea. Although the tractors are BUILT in Korea, as are the TYM, New Holland, LS, Bad Boy, Branson, Bobcat, RK, and some of the Mahindra machines, final assembly is done stateside.
I Chose An LS Mt122 Last Year Because It’s One Of The Few Tractors You Can Add A Backhoe Later And Not As A Complete Package !!! The Power And Quality Of That Tractor Is Awesome And The Price Was Much Lower Than The Competition Other Than Kioti Which Was Comparable At My Dealership !!! It Made My Choice Easy And Much More Affordable And I’m Totally Happy With My Beautiful Blue Tractor !!! The Yanmar Engine Was The Icing On The Cake And Don’t Need Anymore Horsepower Than It Provides !!!
@@ralphllivrah9551 It Was $15000. 00 With A Front Loader And An Added Bolt On Cutting Edge On The Bucket With No Other Attachments And I Bought It In July 2022 !!! I Then Bought A Speedco 3 Point Quick Hitch And A 60 Inch Back Blade For Another $1000.00 When I Went Back To Pick It Up !!! Hopefully You Have A LS Dealer Nearby To Look At One And The Price Hasn’t Gone Up Too Much Since I Bought Mine !!! To Add A 60 Inch Mower Deck Was Another $3000.00 If You Want One !!!
Good video I enjoyed watching it! I just bought a Kubota bx1880 and I love it 18,985 out the door. I didn’t know Massey had that much more lift capacity I like them also but I liked the treadle pedal on the Kubota
Appreciate it! Yeah, Massey's marketing isn't as good as Kubota goes but I think comparing the same class of tractors Massey is superior overall. Thanks for watching and commenting! 👍
I had a Massey gc 2300 couldn't get a hydraulic controller for it , to replace one. Traded for John Deere 2025r loved the Massey but parts were hard to get, they didn't make my controller anymore ! To bad lasted 17 years and was still running good all but that! Robert
Thanks for the info! I will have to double check all the manufactures specs because I think you are correct, most manufactures rate breakout at the pin. And the Kubota is rated at 500mm .Thank you for watching and commenting! 👍
Great vid - very informative and helpful - - quick question - - the avg prices you found, that's the machine with loader and backhoe included? Thanks again. I'm a dummy - - found the answer - - beginning of video ... anyway - - still very informative - Thank you
LS Tractors are made in Korea, final assembly in North Carolina. I bought a MT122, same specs and equipment as the MT125 you listed except it has the 21.75 HP Yanmar. Loader and Backhoe, no belly mower for $15,500!
@@txsaint7992I like it a lot! My property has ditches on all 4 sides. it has saved me a broken back. I have only had two problems with it, they add a manual seat lift with the backhoe option, it cut the seat switch wiring. Also I added a ripper blade and a manual thumb to the back hoe to get stumps up. I bent the pin between the rams on the boom and dipper stick, making it where I couldn't lock the boom. I did this by carrying the stumps, I don't think it would have done this if I had locked the boom first. I straighten the ears out and used a harden pin. I did pay 15500 for mine, but that was 3 years ago here in NC. Wished I had gone with the MT125, MT122 has not failed me, Its just not Tim the toolman....
Kioti Warranty is 6 years not 4. Also not made in China as stated. You mention Bobcat made in USA but it is assembled on the same line as Kioti by Kioti (Daedong Industrial) is Kioti Tractor.
When it comes to the John Deere I don’t know if they’ve changed the rearends from being made out of aluminum back to steel, but that and the fact that they’re so pricey. And that I’d be afraid that I’d be driving it close to a fence and it might decide to jump over it. Now the Mahandra may be put together in my home state of Texas, but I’ve heard that they weren’t standing behind their warranty, and dealers for them are few and far between. Also can you review the Summit brand or is there a problem with that brand .
Thanks for the feedback. I will get around to the Summit brand soon. Need to find a dealer around me to get a feel for it. Haven't had the chance to actually see it in person yet. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻
The only issue I found with this video is that the models used did not directly correlate with each other. They are all sub-compacts, but some are premium sub-compacts verses economy sub-compacts. As an example, the John Deere 1025R is Deere’s premium sub-compact, but they also have a 1023E, where as you used the TYM T224, but they also have the T25, their more premium version. This seems like you compared Granny Smith apples to Macintosh apples.
I’m a big John Deere and Kubota fan. Having said that you really can’t go wrong with any of these tractors, they’ll all be reliable. Just remember you wanna buy something that has long term local support “parts, warranty” and you’re golden Two extra notes 1) Yanmar makes some of the best compact tractors and they also have some really high end transmission options, plus with them being the OEM for alot of other Manufacturers. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if they cherry pick engines, that are over achievers. I’ve seen Yanmar tractors do some really wild things a 1025r won’t do “talking about pulling crap” 2) Kioti is probably the best budget brand tractor going, resale being there only real weakness. But I’d take them over any of the other budget or rebranded tractors. Kioti is top class engineering and they love to shove it up Kubotas ass
What is the model of Summits sub compact tractor if there is one I dont know about? They are categorizing the TX25H as a compact rather than a sub compact. That's the reason I did not add it in the sub compact overview. It will be in my compact tractor overview when I get a chance to do it. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻
@@lawnBot I’m curious about the TX25 with the Mitsubishi engine. It’s retailing around 19k and it seems to have some great add-ons included. It’s in the subcompact category from my research. I’m a first time buyer and I’m curious how it stacks up against the competition.
I have had my JD 1025R for 7 years and it’s been a great unit.Remember price shouldn’t be the only metric to consider when buying. Things like dealer network and parts availability should be high on the list of considerations. The key factor for me at the time was the ease with which the loader, mower deck and other attachments could be changed. At my age I don’t need to be on the ground fighting mower brackets and PTO shafts. Love my JD.
I agree that price isn't everything. I choose Massey and their parts are affordable, available and so far they stood behind their product and service 100%. Lov3 the quick attachments that was standard on my GC1725MB. There are several great brands out there in the sub compact category especially. JD is one of them. Can't go wrong with that history of JD as long as a couple extra bucks dont hurt the wallet.
While I only have one sub compact tractor I can't give a comparison But I love my Massey GC1723 have been very happy with it. It's just a handy tractor when I don't need a big one for the job. It works great in the garden.
John Deere; pay a lot more and get a lot less. Kioti makes the bob cat tractors. LS used to make the New Holland tractors and they still might. The bad boy is a rebadged branson.
Just an FYI.... There has been a recent battle of the brands race on lift capacity... while they can physically lift the weight... many can lift far more than the front axels are rated for. User be ware. If the dealer /mfg can't or won't give the axel rated capacity ...... I would stay away.
Great reviews, I purchased an RK 21 2/2022 , I couldn’t be happier with it, 54 inch mower, loader and a 48 inch offset tiller. Great price and service at Rural King of Washington PA.
Great information now I'm more confused than ever. LOL. I think it was great information my only thing is I'd like to see (most have a larger and a smaller subcompact) is comparison of the same sizes... then maybe those with only one size. I know do it yourself. I took all the info you provided and put it on an excel sheet, but when comparing I keep asking myself wonder if the larger one here would rank higher against the rest or if the ones ranking higher would still be higher if they were the smaller tractor? that's where I'm confusing myself.
I might make a video on the next series up. I personally like the smaller sub compact tractors. It all really depends on your overall needs and what you will be using it for, though.
I have a jd 1025r. If I was doing it again I would probably go New Holland or Massey Ferguson. Dealer near you and their service (good or bad) should also be a factor in your buying decision. The last thing you want is an orphan tractor. A brand that is here today and gone tomorrow. (Branson)
Good video, and I feel like you nailed your recommendation! However, you're way off on the Yanmar 223's bucket force. That tractor should be #1 on your list for that spec, with 2800 pounds of bucket cylinder force. I know because I own it. Yanmar's subcompact backhoe is oversized for the SA223, in a good way. It's the same backhoe they put on the SA324, SA325, SA424, and SA425, which are larger compact machines. Note that this applies to Yanmar's Woods Equipment-sourced backhoes, which they've had since 2017 or so. Earlier models were Ameriquip backhoes - good, but not quite as powerful.
You are correct. The bucket force should have been #1 in that category at 2800 lbs. The Massey still got it the top spot at the dipperstick rating of 1748 lbs vs. the Yanmar's at 1590 lbs. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
I’m looking to buy my first subcompact next year sometime. Backhoe and front loader would be nice, but my priority implements will be brush-hog, ‘belly’ mower, and rototiller. Would your recommendations change given these considerations?
I have the rototiller 44in, and it is perfect for this size tractor. I think it could easily handle a 48in also. I would noy recommend the backhoe for everyone since that is something not everyone will use a lot. Handy to have but its expensive insurance.
Love my RK25. Wouldn’t trade it for any of the other brands / tractors. A word of warning- TYM is the parent company, and they are absolutely a pile of sh!tbags. I wouldn’t give TYM the time of day. But i’ll back Rural King any day of the week. And ya’ll have probably heard about the Right To Repair issue with JD. To their credit, they fabricated a reliably working custom solution for my tractor, and treated me like a paying customer. TYM refused to help because i’m a RK tractor owner. Twice. Both of the closest dealerships. And all i wanted from them was parts. That’s shady AF.
@@lawnBot Yw. Enjoying your videos. We are a remote homestead 13 miles from the closest road and town. We are at the point we NEED a tractor. To many stumps and trails to fix. We had a nice LS lined up but it got sold from under us. Seems to happen at times. It will happen for us sooner or later.
I see you this video you paired the massey 1725 with the cb 65 backhoe. Then in another video you show that you have a massey 1725 with the bh 2720 hoe. My question is which hoe would give me more digging power or are they basically the same with a different number system? I purchased mine a year ago with the bh 2720 hoe.
What was the criteria you used to compile this list. Enjoyed the information you provided. Reason I ask about criteria, TYM has a T25 and provides the rural king with a RK25. Those tractors are still considered a sub-compact. They have better break force and lift capacity than the two you mentioned in your video. Plus the backhoe has great numbers of memory serves me correctly. Great video for the tractors mentioned.
Appreciate it. I chose 1 sub compact from each manufacturer. Some have 2, so it did make it challenging to pick which one. I tried to be as fair as possible. Making sure the rear tires were all similar, engine size similar, weight similar and etc. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻
Great video. What are your honest thoughts on the LS tractor. I have a dealer near me, and in the compact line 25 HP. The LS seams to be the beafiest built of them all. So as far as the sub compact line what are your thoughts about the LS. I love the price.
Having a reputable dealer close is important. LS is a good budget based tractor that a lot of people have success with. I thought about getting one myself but ultimately went with Massey Ferguson. Good luck! Thanks for watching and commenting! 👍
@@lawnBot still don’t know what you’re talking about when you say dipper stick, dipper arm. Please be more specific. Are you referring to the boom on the backhoe ?
I own a 2016 new holland 54d cvt with a loader ......now fokes I have had a lot of different tractors over the years and have operated many different manufacturers...I am so impressed with CNH new holland this tractor is very stout and very reliable I would definitely recommend it for small hobby farm or home owner
Very informative. Some constructive criticism for you- stop with the constant “edit ins” or cuts or whatever they’re called. It’s off putting. Just talk man, no need for tik tok style video edits.
I love my Massey Ferguson at the time when I bought it new it was 10,000 thousand dollars cheaper than john deere and Kubota and in my opinion was a much better tractor
Hey, Can you do the same for the "Compact" tractors? I really appreciate that you include both the loader and the backhoe, since that I was I'm looking for. Weight and physical dimensions would be great to include there too!
