I shot a squirrel dead at 50 mtrs with my Hatsan mod 125 in 177 using JSB Exact pellets. Very accurate and my go to pellet for pest control. And use Marksman just for 50 mtr plus target shooting.
Like the Video and I have done some tests myself - SMK domed i can put a group of 14 into a 1 inch or less group - their new pointed ones you mention are really, really bad - very inconsistent, flight lines all over the place - DO Not use them for live targets - way too unreliable - what did work well at the test distance of 15m was the H&N terminators, group of 10 inside a 5p. Air rifle was a HW100 at 150 psi charge.
Main issue for me really is getting a new air rifle, mine are totally relegated to inaccurate plinking currently as my Crosman's barrel has been damaged so I can't shoot it reliably and my much cheaper BSA rifle I want to keep very basic with the iron sights.
I have a Crossman Optima break barrel - great rife and accurate too - but i always wanted to upgrade to a PCP - there are some good deals around and finance too.
The rabbit magnums work in all air rifles if you seat or press it into the barrel. I have used them in several types of break barrel,spring piston and nitro piston. They’re great depending upon your skill in seating the pellet.
I've found they "worked" in my break barrel, however they didn't have enough velocity with a UK legal air gun to actually fly very accurately, so I normally use much lighter pellets.
I feel that lead free ammunition might have a place in the long range hunting airgun world in years to come, especially with pcp rifles. As you mentioned before, the lead free ammo currently is much lighter, due to metals with less density being used. But using that loss of density to our advantage can yield lead free pellets with comparable weights to current lead pellets, with much more bearing surface to engage rifling, and much better ballistic coefficient. We have seen proof that a longer, slimmer, projectile with most of the weight concentrated just behind the centerline of the projectile (if you were to look at the projectile from a horizontal orientation) is more efficient in both retaining speed and "bucking" wind. Firearms have shown this trend to be true in recent years with longer, slimmer, hollow point projectiles. Once the airgun world realises this I believe a completely new type of pellets will start to be developed. I see something similar to the h&n boat tail lead offering, I believe the name is the terminator but don't quote me on that. but I digress, I feel that a lead free pellet with a cavity in the nose, a long bearing surface to engage rifling and a comparable weight to a lead pellet (14-20 ish grains is what most of the lead pellets I see weigh, obviously there are heavier and lighter pellets, but for .22 that is the most common zone I have seen.) Will yield higher ballistic coefficient and thus extend the ranges of our current 20-30 foot pound pcp rifles significantly, while also keeping lead toxicity to a minimum. Crossman, jsb, any of the pellet manufacturer's that may read this.... I have ideas. Hehehe
Interesting read, Thanks. As I'm in the UK without a FAC I can only really take advantage of pellets that work well in the 10-12ft/lbs range. Anything heavier made for higher velocity air guns won't shoot well due to lack of power.
Baracuda Using a Break barrel Umarex 22cal .hard hitting great for rabbits groundhogs raccoons at 20-25 yards . The Red tip pellets are also tight groups .
Weaponsandstuff93 nice I just bought a tin from a company that only just started msking pellets... anglo arms... i think.. give em a ring and see if they will send you a hundred to test..
Fiddsfiend the benjamin summit is excellent I get inch groups at 40 yards. I've shot over 2,000 rounds through it and it still works like it did when I got it
I've never tried Spitfires. I must give them a go. I've just used Bisley Practice pellets for plinking. I've never had a badly-formed pellet from then and they're very clean. Cheap too.
+SilverArrowShooting I'll have to check those out as well then, Spits are cheap and cheerful, get them expecting a cheap pellet for plinking cans and they're fine but don't expect them to hold a coin sized group.
Great video. i love the baracuda hunter pellets, use them all the time. Your right they are expensive. I'd recommend the field target trophy pellet also by H&N a bit cheaper than the barracuda's. They are a quality pellet. Thanks for posting.
+Weaponsandstuff93 I second the use of Field Target Trophy in sub 12 FPE rifles, along with the JSB exact 18grain and 15grain pellets. I'm sure you won't be disappointed.
Here in America where I live it's raccoons and coyote . Chimp monks rabbits that drive me nuts . Last year I had 7-8 rabbits , that carry ticks my puppy got limes and came so close to death . This year it's raccoons I have three dogs and a raccoon came marching through my 2 acre yard . It got a hold of my smaller dog but my Old English Bull dog came to the rescue with one bite .but now I have spotted coyotes they come in my yard trying to get my smaller dog to chase it then they ambush . Now after buying a new Xmarex 22cal . I will be looking for a 25 cal . . These powerful air rifles do a great job at night . Or even during tHe day with smaller pest , Good video and living inMy area I have crossbow 300mang 22L but I find myself really in to airguns . They are cheap to shoot powerful and most look double cool , And for pest control They win hands down . Peace out
The good thing about America, unsure if it applies to every State, is that it seems you don't have power limits in the law, which makes sense due to the 2nd Amendment, in the UK as you need a license for firearms, all airguns are restricted to 12ft/lbs of muzzle energy unless you get one on a rifle license, by that point they class it as a firearm.
I'm using the Rabbit magnum with my .22 phantom crosman and I got to say they are the best I had try so far. The only bad thing about those pellets is the price$$. Any website suggestions for good deals to buy pellets???(not ebay or amazon shit) I'm in Canada.Thanks!
You probably won't find anywhere cheaper than ebay or amazon, local gun stores that stock pellets might have them slightly cheaper but normally they charge more.
Prometheus from a bsa r10 have been the worst i've tried. H&N for me, trophy sport are the business. the Prometheus were really really bad, took 3 shots to hit a target at 25m, with the h/n sub 1 inch group
ben kattenhorn The reason he mentioned it was the h&n pellets said on the lid 40 joules.... and there are break barrel rifles that can just about attain that power...... it is irrelevant if one does not have a firearms certificate.. owning a pimp rifle and restricting it to 12 ft lbs is tantamount to buging a race horse and cutting a leg off
Your trying to start a debate, aren't you... lol but here is the problem. for a good controllable hunting round you need some weight to it. Switching to alloy or other materials, the round becomes to light. I prefer a slower heavier round to both keeping under supersonic and gain some accuracy. Also the heavier round will do more damage insuring a kill shot rather then wounding. Also the hunter needs to be sure of his shot. this decreases the amount of lost lead in the environment to almost zero. Accuracy + impact = Cleaner environment. I bet those gun ranges are pretty bad though! ;)
I feel that lead free ammunition might have a place in the long range hunting airgun world in years to come, especially with pcp rifles. As you mentioned before, the lead free ammo currently is much lighter, due to metals with less density being used. But using that loss of density to our advantage can yield lead free pellets with comparable weights to current lead pellets, with much more bearing surface to engage rifling, and much better ballistic coefficient. We have seen proof that a longer, slimmer, projectile with most of the weight concentrated just behind the centerline of the projectile (if you were to look at the projectile from a horizontal orientation) is more efficient in both retaining speed and "bucking" wind. Firearms have shown this trend to be true in recent years with longer, slimmer, hollow point projectiles. Once the airgun world realises this I believe a completely new type of pellets will start to be developed. I see something similar to the h&n boat tail lead offering, I believe the name is the terminator but don't quote me on that. but I digress, I feel that a lead free pellet with a cavity in the nose, a long bearing surface to engage rifling and a comparable weight to a lead pellet (14-20 ish grains is what most of the lead pellets I see weigh, obviously there are heavier and lighter pellets, but for .22 that is the most common zone I have seen.) Will yield higher ballistic coefficient and thus extend the ranges of our current 20-30 foot pound pcp rifles significantly, while also keeping lead toxicity to a minimum. Crossman, jsb, any of the pellet manufacturer's that may read this.... I have ideas. Hehehe
How can you test these accurately with an inconsistent break barrel? Two of them aren't even compatible with sub 12ft/lbs guns let alone sub 12 break barrels. I hope the rabbit magnums get clogged in your barrel, perhaps you'd be more inclined to read the tin. Another pointless review... well done.
