The top of the ATV sales charts from the Polaris Sportsman to the CanAm Outlanders, Yamaha Grizzlies to the King Quad 750s. Plus where we think the market could go in the next 5 years.
@@DirtObseXXion went into a Honda dealer.... I said “I want to look at a Honda recon, do you have one?” He replied “we don’t have one of those but we have a rancher right here, what are you using it for?” I said “farming and fun but mostly farming” He said “well Honda is known for reliability and it’s obvious, but that doesn’t mean other manufacturers can’t make good machines too, we have some CF MOTOS and I want you to check them out first. They make good stuff just like Honda. Cf moto has IRS EPS winch 4x4 all this stuff that costs extra on a Honda” I didn’t know what to say so I raised my eye brows and said “ah” He said “yea sounds pretty cool right? Why don’t you check it out” Idk why you would turn someone off from buying the more expensive machine?????
Seriously? I'm honestly surprised the dealer knew the difference between a recon and a rancher (most I've met are pretty clueless)... But dang, i thought you were straight up being hilariously sarcastic..
@@DirtObseXXion well I don’t remember but I had to say that the recon is a 230 cc and he said ya no we only have the 420 I think it was or a 500 or sum
Pretty good video I think. I personally regret buying my sportsman 450 and wish I would’ve went with a rancher like my wife did. It’s got good power and it’s comfortable but it’s been in the shop already a few times with under 25 hours on it and very light riding on it. I think of Honda stepped up their innovation they’d take the lead but I also think that’s part of the reason they’re so reliable. They stick with what works.
I've owned every brand and worked on tons of ATVs for family/friends. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. And all of them can be phenomenal with just a little bit of attention and mods for what you're using it for. Where I live, it's all deep mud and water. Without spending the $$ to properly set up any manufacturer ATV, the mud and water will leave you broke down and still making payments.
As why I've recently been trying to steer clear of that mud. She breaks stuff. I've never understood the glory of hitting a mud lake not a puddle a lake.
If kawasaki made that 300 with 4 wheel drive rear independent suspension and fuel injection that would be a huge game changer for the market. Great video. I think your assessment is pretty accurate due to my shopping of Atvs lately. Thank you for taking the time and putting this together.
I have a 2018 Brute Force 750 EPS. Almost 5000 kms, never had to replace anything yet. They just need to update it as the video says. Been the same machine for 8 years now.
Needs more ground clearance and better suspension and rear brakes are spongy don’t work for shit. I have a 2020 with 500 miles on it. 3 things I think suck about it. Everything else is money. Love it but they need to address those.
This video was spot on! I really thought the top 3 would be Polaris, Can Am and then Honda. I also expected a full on Hondude roast in this video but got lathered up for a complement. Looks like Christmas came early, cheers fellas.
I agree ! I owned the 2016 Polaris 570 nothing but problems and the 4x4 wasn't as good as my former Suzuki 750 KQ, so I sold the Polaris 570 and bought the Yamaha Kodiak 700 and very happy with the Yamaha
I’ve got a 2010 Sportsman 850. No problems and it still runs great. My uncle has a much older Sportsman 500 and same thing. I’m not saying you didn’t have problems with your Polaris but just because you did, doesn’t mean everyone else has.
Totally agree polaris atv or sxs are junk seen too many broke down or pulled home and know tooany that wine and complain because they can't ride cause thier ride is at the shop
I don’t have atv but I have watched 3 of your videos today alone lol 😂. You’re making me want to pull the trigger on one. Great content, keep it coming!
Honda 300ex! Bought new in 1997, it's a 98 model. Never let me down. Replaced axle bearings and chain a sprockets and brake pads a couple times. Front a-arm bushings once. Other than those wear items nothing has broken or malfunctioned. Just put on 230 miles on Hatfield & McCoy trail system this week. Preventative maintenance is the key. Oil is changed regularly, chain is lubed regularly air filter is checked and valves are adjusted as per manual.
I have owned them all . My XTR is by far the best one I have purchased . Not the fastest but 100 km/hr is enough and 225 km to a tank of fuel is great . Thanks for your time and videos .
I enjoyed this video. It’s a shame Suzuki has given up on themselves... the LT’s were the machines to have back when ATVs were in their infancy. With that said- my cousins used to race Tri-Z’s back in the day up until they were banned. They took their one Tri-Z and put an LT230 front end on it... nevertheless the geometry never worked out and they went to the new Banshee in 87. Fun memories.
I'm in the market and i'm torn between my life long idolization of the grizz 700 and the power, options and design of the can am outlander 850. I know the grizz is going to be more reliable, but how much more. I don't want a bike that leaves me stranded every time i punch it but i find the can am sexier. and like the video said they have come along way in reliability.
Outlander 650 max xt here and loving it, wont trade it for anyother brand, I considered the grizzly 700 when I purchased but the smaller engine and lack of 2 up models made me go with can am
Thanks brother! I needed that boost to get motivated.. We've got a few test units coming in for ATVonDemand and a super killer project in the works too.. So I definitely needed to knock this one out
Come home, feed the dogs, turn on the tv, turn on the xbox, click on RU-vid, sees new dirt obsexxion video, watches video, likes video, comments on video, goes to bed and waits to do it again!
Great video I agree with it a 100%. I will stick to Honda though my 420 rancher Pioneer 500 17000k miles and 1000 13789k miles have never let me down. I like to buy American when I can but with power sports I will stick with the Japanese. I have talked to the mechanics at our local dealer and they say stay away from Polaris every 10 they sale 7 come back for major repairs due to low grade metals used and pour electronics.
i picked up an 09 suzuki king quad 400FS be almost 2 weeks ago now needs a little tlc but does run good and is ridable it still had the original tires from back in 09 i like it more every time i ride it
I've pretty much owned them all so here is my take. Japanese manufacturers have higher quality control when it comes to the parts and components placed in their ATV's but parts usually cost more due to importation fees, red tape, harder to obtain global markets etc.... American made products i have found to have slightly lower production value due to non-incentivized production, budget cuts and the higher employee turnover rate in American facilities.. but parts seem more readily available at times and tend to have a price reflected towards a north American based market and not a global market. Final word of advice: Test drive a bunch of ATV's and talk to a dealer willing to work with you on your purchase. Buy what you want/like and enjoy it.
There's a reason Polaris is the best selling. I had a 13 sportsman 550 that was amazing and bulletproof. Just upgraded to a 21 sportsman. Any ATV can break and cause you issues. Treat them right (they aren't boats), maintain them, and you will get lots of years and enjoyment out of them.
Another amazing video guys. My 2 cents...Can Am is the best. Why would I say that? I’ve owned 3 Arctic Cats-1 Polaris- 1Yamaha (Grizzly currently) & Can Ams (2 Outlander 1000s currently). No bashing any brands. Just my experience so far...The Yamaha has been reliable so far (2014). I like it. Nothing special, just reliable & fun. Arctic Cats were all tanks. Slow, bulky, pain in the butt to steer...they were good for plowing. Polaris...no offense Polaris guys, it was a piece of crap from day one. I’d never get another. Again, no offense, I may have gotten a lemon? I’d say that but many of my friends have owned them before as well & a lot of them say they’d never buy another one from Polaris. Reliability reasons. Then the Can Ams...1000 Outlanders. 2012 just turned over 7,800 miles. Problems with it throughout the years? No. 2020 Outlander 1000...850 miles on it & again no issues. Maybe I’m just lucky with the Can Ams? I’ve heard both good & bad about them also. I’ve just never experienced any. Which is great. They cost a lot of money. I work harder than most people do, (Sheetrock hanger/finisher for 30 years now)...so when it’s time to play I want to get on the trails with a reliable machine, that’s why I choose the Can Am brand. Power. Reliable. Comfortable...& I haven’t lost any stock ATV drag races. 🤣👍🏼. I think all brands have pros & cons. Nothing is indestructible..just enjoy whatever you choose to buy. They’re all fun in their own way.
Great comment... Having owned or been closely associated with all of the same machines. I agree 100% with your assessment.. Polaris has some high points, reliability hasn't been consistent in my experience.. But your best point, have fun on whatever you have!
@@DirtObseXXion you guys should get your hands on a stock Renegade 1000 XMR & give an honest review. That’s the best part of your videos. Honesty. Much appreciated.
@@thenarrowpathatvchannel4316 Thanks you too!!! I'm not much of a mud guy so that xxc is for me... Honestly I really like the Outlander though.. Might as well have some racks on a 4x4..
Great vid my dude! It's easy for people to point at their flaws when Polaris outsells the other brands. I wish Honda would upgrade the transmission in the rincon. You would think this would happen sooner rather than later considering they use the same combo in the pioneer 700. I think Yamaha could very much surpass Honda, and I believe they deserve to do so. Can Am understands marketing probably better than anyone. So Cat... idk what to say about them. Idk when they got rid of a locker on their machines, but I won't buy a new one until it comes back. Those weirdos. I kind of want to find the last model year of one with a locker and build a sport ute with trimmed plastics and stuff. Just for something to do. Idk.
Nice video. My top 2 choices are the Honda Rubicon with foot shifter and the Suzuki KingQuad 750. I am old school and only buy American cars and trucks, but I only buy Japanese when it comes to ATVs.
Not counting the plethora of 3 wheeled death machines me and my father owned , I’ve since had a 98 sportsman 500, 2000 Honda rancher 350, 05 Yamaha special edition Kodiak 450, 06 brute force 650i, 09 brute force 750, ‘12 brute force 750, ‘19 premium sportsman xp 1000, and now a can am maverick trail 1000 DPS . Oh and the kids have three Honda recon 250s. So I can speak on brands quite a bit. I’ll sum it up . North America still doesn’t match Japanese quality. Well, there we have it lol.
another great one! Still waiting for the Grizzly to get the 1000cc treatment, i give up on Kawi and Suzuki which is a shame knowing that they are capable of greatness
1000cc isn't even close to necessary is the sad thing.. Griz has 32rwhp, Brute750 has 35 or slightly more. Even a Griz 800 with 10-15 more hp would be more than enough. I love my grizzly, and when I do my $2000 in upgrades it will be close to 50rwhp and it will keep up with 1000s and kill them on the trails and climbing. Would be nice if it came from the factory that way. Yamaha will be catapulted to top sales. I think even most Polaris and cam and guys give the Grizzly the nod When it comes to almost everything but speed. Give the grizzly stock 850 like speeds and it's game over. It's almost like the American companies are paying them to stay out of the market. 😂
@@kennethrobinson8442 So far just the EHS ones. Fuel controller, barkers, lid mod, and uni filter. Worth 7-8rwhp. To get to 50, EHS has a video with dyno proof. you need there Cam, Springs, 11:1 CP piston... While i'm at it I'll Probably get the 734bbk to put me about 55rwhp. On par with any 850, and nothing to wild for the motor. EHS has been running one for 2 years since the video was made and has been "very reliable".
I think you were a little hard on Honda Rincon. It may not be recently updated, but it doesn't need to be updated. Mine has over 10K off-road miles on it with no problems (ever). The 3 speed transmission is great. I don't get "wet belts" or have to shift to low range to get belt engagement when rock crawling.
Nothing wrong with that! I think a lot of enthusiasts would like to see it updated though.. It's chasis is certainly blocky and the suspension isn't even adjustable.. No doubt it's a workhorse though.. If you're happy with it, that's all that matters..
Very good summary of the big brands. I completely agree with your 5-year projection. on the other hand, what about CFMoto? This Chinese manufacturer also seems more and more visible and its prices are very attractive.
I agree, they're moving up in the world.. I did another video that touched on why I believe they're going to edge out Arctic Cat.. If they keep pace, every OEM below top 5 should be concerned.. They still have a long way to go with dealer network though..
I'm in the market for an ATV, really looking at the Honda rancher then installing a locker since they now have the 2wd/4wd system now but no power steering. then was between the Honda Rubicon or the Suzuki 500 then someone said about the grizzly 700 but i dont really need a 700. so i steered toward the Polaris sportsman 570 I'm just not sure at this point, if anyone has a helpful opinion let me know please.
I'd never recommend Polaris, the quality has become really poor in the last 10 years.. The Suzuki King Quad 500 would be a great choice. Everything about is the same as the KQ 750, just a smaller engine.. Quality-wise it's right on par with the Hondas and Yamahas and it has true locking diff 4x4.. Ive had several Grizzlies, several Polaris, and one KingQuad.. If you're looking in the 500 class, KingQuad is by far the best bang for your buck
I’d be nice if any dealers had anything in stock. Debating settling on a kodiak 700 SE cause nobody can get grizzlies for months and hardly anything else is available. No ETAs from manufacturers. Wondering if I should just wait for the 2022’s. (Assuming they ever come lol)
Awesome vid man, relatively new subscriber here and I find all of your content very informative and well researched. Love the little flecks of humour you add in as well! Soon to get rid of my 2017 Arctic Crap 700XT. Leaning strongly (very), towards the Grizz 700 XTR...but also considering the Canned Ham offerings. I have been so jaded by NA MFR reliability issues, that I swore my next quad would be Japanese only. I ride aggressively, 90% trail/fire road, with the other 10% being bush, and/or un-maintained trails and mud. So the question - based on your experience and overall riding trials/tests...would you recommend I follow my gut and rock the Grizz - or turn to the dark side and take the CanAm gamble?
That's a tuff choice but it's exactly the decision we'd have to make if we were buying a new 4x4.. We've been really impressed with CanAms build quality and reliability.. Two issues we had with our Outlander was that the suspension went squishy after about 8-900 miles of riding it hard and a fuel programmer was essential for managing heat .. That was the base model 1000 though so it had the pogo shocks.. We've spent a lot of time on the XTP test unit with the Fox Shocks and that's definitely an awesome set up.. That and crappy factory brake pads are our only complaints about the Outlander.. It's super fun and super solid.. I love the Grizzly too though, it's the most agile 4x4 on the market and probably the most reliable belt driven machine ever made.. I haven't ridden the XTR Grizz but I'd guess the downfall would be the tire set up because I can't imagine 27x10 zillas being good for aggressive trail riding.. They're perfect for sloppier stuff though.. My concern is that they'd make the machine a little sluggish... It really comes down to two things... 1. How much you want to spend and 2. How aggressive you want to ride. If if money isn't a huge concern and you care most about really hammering down, the Outlander is the obvious choice (850 or 1000 in the XTP trim).. If you want to keep the price reasonable, have damn near guaranteed reliability, and don't mind the limitations of a big single, then the Grizzly is perfect... Seriously, we talk about this exact decision all the time, Flyin Brian is down to the same exact choice because he recently sold his Outlander (a friend made an offer he couldn't refuse)
@@DirtObseXXion I hear you on the Zilla tires, I have them on my Arctic Cat albeit in the 25” variant. I live in Canada so 3-4 months of my riding is in snow - and Zilla’s do well in the white stuff. I really like the Outlander 850 XTP - but with tax it’s near $20K CDN 🤯 The Grizz runs around $16K tax in. All to say buying an ATV in these parts is not an inexpensive proposition! 😐 I do crave the v-twin grunt, but I always come back to the Grizz in my list of top 3. The Yamaha CVT is a huge lure for me...they are so good, as is the Yamaha transmission and drive line...not to mention 4 wheel disc brakes and the handle bar mounted headlamp which I love (see where you turn is under-utilized on ATV’s IMO). Sounds like I am selling myself on the Yammy here, lol Given my experience with Arctic Cat, I crave reliability, expert engineering and tight quality control...but perhaps that same reason is unjustly steering me away from CanAm even though they are by and large solid machines, likewise is the case with Polaris but I have even more concerns with them. Tough call is right - and I’m sure I’d be happy either way. Good time to buy an ATV with all the choices at present...or maybe that just makes it more difficult!?!? 🤔
Can am all day but maybe cause I own the Lil 250 n has been solid as a rock. Not 1 issue with her since I've owned it. Couldn't keep up with the big quads but did hold is own on Hatfield and McCoys trails. Only rolled it once. Lol took on every trail even expert which I'm clearly not. Stood right next to the top Polaris of that year. 2012
They would probably sell really well as big bores go but big bores don't account for huge chunks of the market... Don't matter anyway, I met the guys from Yamaha over summer during the RMAX release and they said they had no intention in making a bigger Grizzly
I would say cfmoto is 3rd right behind can am and Polaris. My Honda rancher might be reliable but it reminds me of my old fourtrax form the 90s, it's great for a little bike and is also faster then any foreman or Rubicon but it sucks in the snow and is not a good bike at all with a load on a trailer. If the dealer would have had 200 pounds on the racks and a thousand pounds on a trailer and said take it for a drive I would have left it there that day. It deffinetly leaves you wanting more, I was a Kawasaki guy before and should have stuck too my roots.
Yamaha, Kawasaki, Suzuki need to stop messing around and codevelope a 900cc twin that will smash the market. Make it lighter then the 1000’s but more horsepower then the 850’s. Make it in bulk to cut costs and offer value. They would literally have line ups at their door.
Honest video, I appreciate that. I'm a Honda/Yamaha guy but at 6'4" I'd rather be on a longer 2-up. What is your opinion on why the Japanese brands refuse to expand to 2-up models? My opinion, that would definitely help their sales. Again, great video
My honest opinion is that it isn't worth it in the minds of the Japanese manufacturers to do the chasis adjustment for a 2up.. Not to mention most 2up machines are bigger displacement than what Japanese OEMs offer.. Can am maximises the use of the extended chasis with the XMR models too, so they're getting more out of it.. I don't expect to see larger displacement sizes or any chasis adjustments from Japanese OEMs on ATVs at all.. Total sales just don't support it. If anything new comes out it'll be mid displacement
Exactly. The money is in the SxS industry now. I have a grizzly and I'd love more power but its not coming. I wouldn't own anything America though.... .fuckkkk that
I still don’t think any of the atv’s compare to the sportsman in comfort. Only if Honda/ Yamaha could get that recliner feel refined into their atv’s. 😂😂😂
artic cat is super awful worst non chinese brand we have one that doesnt ever want to run, it breaks every weeks and has fuel injection problems shocks break just by adjusting them too much up travel and bust out there own headlights on small jumps and 4wheel drive system breaks just by using it regularly and the exhaust pipe is impossible to keep tight manufacturers cant even get this this to work, 2020 alterra 570 is so cheap and badly made absolute piece of shit just trying toget rid of it.
We have a 2019 750axi and its definitely the best atv I've ridden, ove tried an 850 sportsman and 1000 can am, sure they're powerful, but the kq os still a torquey fun bike while still giving me confidence to not worry about a breakdown!
@@billyboots3730 the center of gravity is lower too. Thats one thing I noticed shopping was seat height. Seemed the KQ wasn't as tall as the Yamaha and Polaris models.
My S10 Blazer which is not fast will outrun four-wheelers, Hondas have plenty of power for work, hunting, and mid-range power on trails. You will not be doing 78 mph on a wooded trail and an ATV will not be on a bypass.
Years ago my whole family was Polaris die hards. After many issues with the last few machines, my dad and brother are now Can Am side by sides and I opted for a 2020 Yamaha grizzly 700 last year. Great machine so far and yes, may be a Japanese company but they are made in Georgia U.S. of A and employ over 1600 Americans!!
mexico has top quality manufacturing....some of the best in the world. you have no clue what you are talking about. korean companies are running to mexico in droves for manufacturing
That’s awesome to hear! People gripe on Polaris for no reason, the people who usually buy them run them into the ground and then complain when they have issues. I’m picking up my 24’ 570 this week and I’m stoked!
My 2016 Sportsman 570 has been fantastic for 5400 miles. I'm not partial to any manufacture. I literally went to every dealer, and found the most comfortable machine. If I'm not comfortable, I'm not gonna have fun.
is it even run in at such a low milage ,im a scottish farmer and run a Honda 500 ,now quite old at 14 years old with over 60,000 miles on clock ,very reliable but did lose compression last year and needed a top end engine rebuild ,most around here run hondas but some now changing to suzuki king quads as they are a major improvement on previous ,I like many tried Polaris 15 years ago ,every bike destroyed its serlf at two years old ,complete rubbish and i know of about another 10 farmers who would say the same,i did buy for comfort as it was but reliability is terrible
@@G20-i2m I don't have any personal experience with Honda but of course their quality and reliability are worthy. I have a 2016 570 and a 2021 850 Outlander. Only complaint is the 570 shifter is sticky. Otherwise they've both been great. Should note they're both max (2up) units. I think Can Am build quality and fit and finish are strong, and they offer many options. Good luck whatever you decide and get out on the trails. BTW, power steering is worth the extra cost!
I have owned kymco 500, Yamaha grizzly 700, can am 650 xt , 570 Polaris sportsman and Suzuki king quad 750 Out of all those quads I have owned over the years they all had something better than the other but for me the best all round quad for trail,hunting and reliable machine was and still is Suzuki king quad 750 greatest quad I have owned by far
As a genuine fan of ATV's, it pains me to see what has happened to Artic Cat, I can't help but think that this will be happening to Suzuki's ATV lineup someday. Suzuki needs to step it up, they should make a bright yellow YXZ styled sxs, make it look like an 80's remote controled car with manual shift and just start rolling out a sxs lineup before it's too late.
I remember back in the 80s Suzuki was favorite and now I don't even know where a dealer is for Suzuki and I can think of every other brand off hand even Argo and CFMOTO.
That's not the way I see it now my 2017 Kodiak 700 not very good with problems, my 2018 Sportsman XP 1000 100% AWESOME no problems and has more miles on it because l don't ride the Kodiak anymore going to trade in for a Sportsman.
@@colindavid9984 I'd agree if we're talking first gen Outlander.. But we've had 2 2019 1000s and they've been really good.. More c reliable than my Sportsman 1k
I've owned 7 utility quads purchased between 2001 and 2015 (all North American) and still own 6 of them. I've also driven Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki and Suzuki. I generally agree wit the comments here. 1) Polaris XP 850 Sportsman (2009) Had no problems in 5000+ miles. Only complaint was that from the start, the power steering was a bit vague at speed. Comfortable ride. Traded it in for XP 1000. 2) Polaris XP 1000 Sportsman (2015). Grrr! Plenty of problems! Poor quality control and with (at best), mediocre honoring of 5 year extended warranty. It has 6000 miles over rough terrain. Engine and driveline have remained solid. As with the XP 850, the power steering has always been vague at speed. It is spongy, allowing a wobbling of the handlebars without corresponding influence to the steering. Suspension bushings wear fairly quickly. Poor muffler location MELTED the plastic THREE TIMES (replaced under warranty) before they finally issued a recall and installed heat shields. Still, the muffler location is poor, preventing the use of chains and excessively heats the right rear tire. The biggest complaint is Polaris' willful concealment of a common problem with the fuel pump and an unwillingness to address the problem. The dealers know the problem, yet Polaris neither published a notice nor allows replacement under warranty unless dealer can replicate the problem. Replication is hard to do, as the problem is intermittent, only appears after running for at least an hour, and usually on warmer days. Every XP owner I know has experienced the same problem. If it behaves as though there's vapor lock, DEMAND, DEMAND, DEMAND they replace the damn fuel pump and UNDER WARRANTY (Grrr. Argh!). The second biggest complaint is the shifter. It is BY FAR the worst of any quad I have ever driven. Extremely notchy. This is compounded by a preprogrammed idle that even at idle drags slightly on the clutch. This renders shifting extremely difficult (yes, I know to offload loads before shifting, rocking the quad like a spastic, blipping the throttle, etc. - none of that works) I often have to turn the engine off in order to shift. I've tried to lower the idle but the preprogrammed idle speed prevents idling below ~1150 RPM) 3) Can Am Max 800 (2007) Fuel pump failed. But is was well out of warranty. Other than that, it has been reliable over ~4000 miles 4) Can Am X XC 800 (2011) Power steering began to intermittently quit, but it was simply been a loose connection. Removing its connector and reinserting it seems to have solved the issue. Exhaust pipe heat has been an issue and has melted the plastic below the seat (literally dripping plastic).The heat problem is most pronounced when running snow tracks. (Can Ams work well with tracks, but don't leave it pegged at max speed unless you want to fry a belt in minutes. The quad has been solid over 5000 miles. Both Can Am and Polaris should switch to stainless steel exhaust systems, as stainless has about half the heat conductivity of regular steel. This would not only solve the heat problem, but it would last the life of the bike. Regular steel will age quickly when wrapped in heat wrap, as it is less capable of handling the increased heat due to insulation. 304 (or better yet 309) stainless is the way to go. 5) Polaris 800 Sportsman - very soft suspension, comfortable ride. Quieter motor than the XP series because of 180 degree firing order vs. 270 degree on XP series engines. The only complaint is poor fuel mileage - requiring ~50% more than the XP 1000 despite having not much more than half the horsepower. Being the first year for fuel injection may explain why it gets much worse fuel mileage 6) Arctic Cat 400 (2002) bought in 2001. Great ground clearance, good engine (Suzuki) with 5 speed shifter. Complaints include no locking front diff., rough ride, TERRIBLE kickback in handlebars from bumps, and BY FAR the most ABYSMAL handling of warranty issues. 7) Arctic Cat 650 (2004) Great engine (Kawasaki), good locking front diff., good CVT, rough ride, TERRIBLE kickback in handlebars bumps, and BY FAR the most ABYSMAL handling of warranty issues. After this second Arctic Cat where honoring warranty required initiating legal action, I vowed never to buy their product again. The list above proves I kept that vow. I'll give honorable mentions to the: Grizzly 700 (~2016). Not a terribly plush ride. But they're light, good ground clearance, fairly quiet engine, have a low center of gravity, and are reliable. Suzuki King Quad (~2016) - great ground clearance. This was ideally suited for doodling along at modest speeds on narrow, twisty trails between trees, around rocks, etc. Can Am 1000 (2019) Can Am has really stepped up their game. The Polaris XP 1000 still has a little bit more comfortable ride, but it is almost a match. The Can Am is a more polished quad than Polaris and from what I've seen are more reliable. They also have better throttle response, a quieter engine, and better quality control. When you're paying this much for a quad, theft security is important. Can Am's key is FAR more secure against theft. In contrast, the Polaris key is a joke. Honda Rincon (2019) Honda is known as tops for reliability. Light weight simplifies handling For my riding, my main complaints are small wheels and tires, low ground clearance, and minimal suspension travel. I wish Honda would choose to ENTER the market with an 800+ cc quad and address the wheels, tires, suspension and ground clearance. They could adapt their 'Africa Twin' 1000 motorcycle engine for use in an ATV. What a winner that would be. I'd buy that in a heartbeat.
Yamaha & Can Am #1 all around! All we will buy. Utility quads are Can Am & our sport quads are Yamahas .. tho we are getting a '22 Yamaha Grizzley 700. -Ohio
@@Davido50 Yep. A friend has both Can Ams and a Grizzly, with snow tracks for both. Tracks require an obscene amount of power. Despite this, the Grizzly does surprisingly well. I like the Grizzly but be aware that at one point (I think around 2018) Yamaha changed the engine (both the design and who assembled it) such that the newer engine had far more issues than the prior engine. It may have also had a slight difference in cubic centimeters. My friend had both and got rid of the newer Grizzly. Hopefully, Yamaha has since addressed the engine issue, but you should ask about this.
Hey fellas!!! I guess not everyone who buys em are enthusiasts.. CanAm is growing fast though, believe it or not they just didn't have the dealer network in the US that they needed to swing past Honda.. I think they will eventually
I get the overall sales part. In my area, can am sells like 5:1 of most other brands. You rarely find what model you want on the showroom floor. Polaris is the only close competitor. Im seeing a ton of CFmotos on the trails now as well here in MN.
Personally, I think you pretty much cannot go wrong with any of the major manufacturers, the Japanese Atvs are well proven to be reliable. Polaris and Can Am do not quite reach the same reliability level imo, but they will usually run circles around the Japanese counterparts. Obviously they put more strain on their drivetrain with those high powered engines. They are all quite capable, with only a few areas that any of them really stand out. For one, I have a 2014 Honda rancher, 23k miles on it, and the only things I have had to do is oil changes, and change many sets of tires. The thing just keeps on going. I also have an Outlander 800, and a Polaris magnum, both of which have well proven themselves to be trust worthy. My opinion is that if Honda would push a bit more power from their machines, they would pick up quite a few more buyers. Reach into the middle range for power ratings in each category AND maintain their reliability, and they would really have the winning combination imo.
As I’m the only rider on RU-vid to roll an atv shifting gears my opinion means almost nothing...this video is a bullseye! Excellent work Chad , everyone purchasing an atv should watch this. I’m sharing it with my riders. Thank you stay safe. 🙂
@@DirtObseXXion Owned several CF´s and know others that have too, I have good experience with them, and has been treated well with the service places and so on, never had one fail for us, we mostly run ours in the wood loggin for 2 homes for wood and also snow plowing, and some on the roads too of course For us it was also the value at first, but after several years, we will not change to a more expensive brands Our oldest still runs that we sold, still runs fine at the new owners place, it went 1600km for a vacation this year :)
Yup i got a 2017 arctic cat alterra 400 ive had a few small problems its got about 4000 miles i love it though ive had somebody here in my small village put a tank full of water in the gas tank and had to drain the carb an put fresh fuel in it also a few other small problems
Thanks Scott! Me and Brian have little baby beards.. Probably full beards for the average man, but when you hang with the Viking you start to feel... unsubstantiated
