**UPDATE UPDATE** NOTE: I am not a lawyer, I am not giving you legal advice. If you need legal advice please speak to an attorney. With that said, Keep in mind that "fixed magazine" rifles are limited to 10 round magazines only. If you insert a magazine on a rifle that is, under law in a fixed magazine configuration, you will be in possession of an unregistered "assault weapon" please don't ne that guy. This is a "fixed magazine" setup and you must be careful. This is a setup if you want your rifle to look like a standard configuration ar15 in looks only. Eventhough you can legally own magazines with capacities greater then 10 rounds, do not put them in a "fixed magazine" rifle or a Registered "Bullet Button Assault Weapon"(BBRAW) here is the current "assault weapon" definition based on generic characteristics, (a)Notwithstanding Section 12276, “assault weapon” shall also mean any of the following: (1)A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following: (A)A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon. (B)A thumbhole stock. (C)A folding or telescoping stock. (D)A grenade launcher or flare launcher. (E)A flash suppressor. (F)A forward pistol grip. (2)A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds. (3)A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.
@martinz1540 Don't confuse people. A 30 round body that meets California standards for a 10 round capacity is not the same as a 30 round magazine or 250 round drum lol. All that matter is capacity not body of said magazine/drum.
@martinz1540 I was just saying not to spread misinformation. If you have a "fixed magazine" rifle and have a magazine, even if it is permanently affixed with more than 10 rounds, under California law it is not a "fixed magazine" rifle. So again, to clear any confusion, even if you legally own magazines that hold 11-1,000,00 rounds (exaggerating a bit) you cannot legally use them in a "fixed magazine" setup as it would fall under the definition of "fixed magazine" You concede how your comment could cause some confusion, right?
@martinz1540 No they can't, again if you aren't sure on something please don't spread misinformation. Again, even if you legally acquired magazines holding 11 rounds plus, you cannot under any circumstances put them in a rifle that is "fixed magazine" only exceptions are, any rifle that does not meet the definition of an "assault weapon" or a pre-2001 RAW(Registered Assault Weapon) If you need a link to any laws, penal codes let me know. I would be more than happy to share them with you. Unless you want to be a felon don't put any mag holding 11-1,000,000 rounds in a rifle that is setup with "assault weapon" features.
@martinz1540 What you just said, I clearly explained in full detail in this video. Also, you are forgetting a crucial part of what makes a rifle "fixed magazine" A rifle can only be fixed magazine if the magazine that is affixed to said rifle holds only 10 or less rounds. If it holds more than 10, that means 11 rounds or more than it is no longer a "fixed magazine" rifle. If you think I am wrong on this, please seek legal counsel because again ignorance of a law is not an excuse.
@martinz1540 Arg... Sometimes I wonder if I am wasting my breath. This is my last attempt at keeping you out of trouble. You are dead wrong brother. I am not trying to or think that I am better than you but believe me, you are wrong. Hopefully this answered question will help put out by Firearms Policy Coalition, Q: What are the "features" that can make a firearm into an "assault weapon"? In addition to other categories of "assault weapons" (that we aren't going to talk about here), Cal. Penal Code § 30515(a) says that an "assault weapon" is: (1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that does not have a fixed magazine but has any one of the following: (A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon. (B) A thumbhole stock. (C) A folding or telescoping stock. (D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher. (E) A flash suppressor. (F) A forward pistol grip. (2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds. (3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches. (4) A semiautomatic pistol that does not have a fixed magazine but has any one of the following: (A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer. (B) A second handgrip. (C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer’s hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel. (D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip. (5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds. (6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following: (A) A folding or telescoping stock. (B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip. (7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine. (8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder. And, for purposes of [Cal. Penal Code section 30515], " 'fixed magazine' means an ammunition feeding device contained in, or permanently attached to, a firearm in such a manner that the device cannot be removed without disassembly of the firearm action." Cal. Penal Code section 30515(b). If after reading this, go to calguns.net and look at the AW Flow Chart or start a thread and ask about using magazines holding more than 10 rounds in a fixed magazine configuration is legal if you legally acquired those magazines. I am only trying to help. Again you are wrong brother.
Gun community needs to get together and fight for California gun laws. Everyone should have the right to wield a full semi automatic ar 15 with no restrictions whatsoever
It's quite obvious The people of California Don't even fight for their on gun laws This type of BS is going to get somebody killed while they're trying to defend their home family etc. I live in a free state such as Ohio where my weapons function exactly how they were designed No restrictions No infringement on my rights
@@ohdeechris2355 no. If someone isn't fit to have firearms they aren't fit to be free. If they are fit to be free, they are fit to have their american rights.
Many people in this country trade freedom for safety, Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
If I could go back in time and bring the founders to the present world I would do it,and I would replace these fascist modern politicians with the founders by any means necessary.
“I cannot drop this to save my life.” Therein lies the problem. I have high hopes for SCOTUS. Hopefully they will resolve this injustice in my lifetime.
people will die if something like this was attempted. unlike other places who dont follow our way of doing things, we have ABSOLUTE RIGHTS THAT CAN NEVER BE TAKEN AWAY. i'll go down fighting....but i wont be alone. this is america...where we have ABSOLUTE RIGHTS to keep and bear arms with NO INTERFERENCE
Featureless is better option, with a thordsen stock it changes hand position but its an easy train. Way faster than fixed mag, here you have to release the bolt, push the button to break action, press the button to drop the mag, close the action , finally recharge. Featureless: drop the mag, release the bolt. In high stress situation, muscle memory is faster with two steps instead of 5. Also you can have your grandfathered or freedom week standard capacity on featureless. So you have to reload more often with a fix mag option anyways. Featureless is the way to go imho
Christian Martinez I really like the FAB Defense OMC Ultimags, a Mag|Coupler aka RJK Ventures LLC also makes a coupler that replaces the magazine floorplate on magpul 10 round pmags and works just as good. I like the OMC because it is weighted and 2 10 round mags plus OMC weigh within an ounce of most 30 round magazines. Both OMC and Mag|Coupler fit in standard rigs and mag pouches.
@@toamaiusdvignir9468 are those mags legal to run in a ca compliant rifle? Like say I want an identical rifle to yours how legal is that setup? Also how easy/fast is that push pin that breaks the action how easy is it to get a msg out turn it around and stick it back in close the gun and be ready to fire again?
Your the best person that explained how this works, unlike other videos they just do it like the viewers already know what they talking about. Best info that you can also release the mag by the front bolt.
Jacob Holloway To be honest compared to other fixed magazine options that are now considered "assault weapons" this is much faster. Bullet button was a fixed magazine option which required use of a tool to drop the magazine and a bullet tip was considered a tool. This was in my opinion super slow and rifles like this were considered the norm. I wish I could have a rifle that was just like everyone else's in a free state. However, I live in California and rifles with features are considered "assault weapons" so by complying with the law, I can keep all my features and have the rifle look and function as close to normal and stay legal. Like I have said before, this is not slow at all. I go to Arizona a lot where they have no restrictions and I can freely remove mod which takes less than 1 minute(1 hex head screw). Now I find myself not taking the 1 minute to take off mod. Instead I train on this setup and just keep getting faster. I would say it is as fast as a standard ak. The only difference is having to send bolt home. Other than that, you just drop magazine and charge the weapon.
Toamaius D'Vignir I understand and agree, the only problem is knowing that it's faster obviously means next year they're going to ban this option as well. It seems they are trying to do everything except physically taking them.I too live in California and I am starting to explore my interest in guns and it's sad how limited my options are. I just bought an AR pistol upper and now I'm worried I won't even be able to complete my build. But I will add that I am excited that if I can complete it this does look like an exceptional option.
Jacob Holloway Yeah, if you are now getting into firearms, it will come as a shock to see how many restrictions we have on commonly used firearms. This option is very ban proof. In order for them to ban this set up they would need to do 2 things. 1, Somehow make the argument that a fixed magazine rifle is an "assault weapon" 2, Say that a single shot, bolt action action is an "assault weapon" this in my opinion would be impossible. Not only would they be coming after ar 15 or al weapons with a similar setup, but every hunting rifle in the state.. Fudds do not vote on black rifles. But talk about their wood guns and hunting rifles and they will come out of the wood work to stand and fight with us(at the polls) This is a great set up for ar pistols, however after Jun 30, 2018 all 80% lowers require registration and you must ask for a serial number and have a certified FFL put it on your 80% lower before you can finish it. I also believe you can no longer make a pistol out of such lower in California. There are tons of single shot exemption pistol lowers that are available for sale through private party which you can buy and use to complete your build using this setup, but instead of costing you market price they command a premium essentially it created a black market of sorts. Similar to buying any other off roster gun. This makes me sad, good luck.
Toamaius D'Vignir Military standard is to fire a shot, change the mag, and fire another shot within 1.5 seconds. Think about it. While a police officer can have his gun back up with 30 rounds against you, your taking around 4 seconds to have 10 rounds against him. Stand no chance.
Toamaius D'Vignir is it not possible for you to move from this shit hole state of yours ? Come to Tennessee we are still free Americans enjoying every possible gun right
I'm 64. Been in CA most of my life. I don't expect to see the state loosened from the grip of the socialists during my lifetime. Am I pessimistic? Possibly. I think that's more of a realistic viewpoint.
I know youre joking but lets say i want my ar15 to be plain jane style with none of this california compliant crap then all of sudden im a felon. So even though im an excelent example of a role model citizen their stupid laws make me a felon. Doesnt make sense at all.
You know what the saddest part of all this is? The resignation in the guys voice, as if this is just another day at the office. Imagine getting in a real gunfight with that thing. No thanks. They shit all over the K.I.S.S. principle in California. My M4 is pristine, unaffected by BS politics, and never will be.
Never say never. There’s a country wide agenda going and guess what.. it’s to take away guns. The more they do that the more we get closer to becoming like China. Less people to fight back, call it a conspiracy but your grandkids kids will most likely see it full action.
There are options to the featureless grip. It's not that you cannot wrap your thumb around it, the web of your hand between thumb and trigger finger has to be higher than trigger as in a commonly stocked rifle, so one option is you can use a Juggernaught Tactical featureless grip. To me it's a much better option than disabling my magazine release to have to crack open the action.
Only if it looks like a "military weapon". Semi automatic rifles are okay, just not features and accessories if your rifle is black. They only ban features, and restrict magazine capacity, it has nothing to do with how weapon operates or caliber.
I own a Socom 16 and love it, but I'm a n00b to the AR platform I came across your vid and its a great start for research material I to also live behind enemy lines in Cali, thanks for the vid!
Question: Did you skip a step in the firing sequence? at 5:17 after dropping the old mag you need to snap the rear takedown back together before loading new mag and charging the weapon. I have forgotten to do that and it will jam. Please correct me if I am wrong.
I agree: The Hogue Freedom Fighter combined with the Juggernaut Tactical Rear Takedown pin/release is the best combination to keep your AR compliant with the tyrannical Commieforniastan.
ask Matt Lol, yep. This should be good even when they redefine "assault weapon" I hear this year they are going to include any semi-automatic center fired rifle that accepts a detachable magazine. So featureless ar and all hunting rifles.
this is the combo i need to put on my Anderson Am15 cause man its a pain in the ass to drop the whole front to just change mags. glad Toamaius D'Vignir spoke bout these things!!
tuna0n3 Yep, this is truly the best combo. I travel to free states a lot and sometimes when I am feeling lazy, I find myself not taking the 1 to 2 minutes it takes to convert this to a standard ar15. Only thing I do different is use standard capacity magazines vs reduced capacity magazines. Even my Arizona friends who have no idea what compliance rifles are find this setup easy to train on. I also take every shooting opportunity to train on this. Bolt release, push to crack action open, release magazine, insert magazine, close action, charge weapon.(keep in mind this is a reload from bolt lock) Tactical reloads are, Crack action open, release magazine, reload fresh magazine, close action.... If you are okay with magazine modifications or buying special mags(make sure you verify 100% function and reliability). I highly recommend using complete Juggernaut Tactical Hell Fighter Kit. Will turn your operation of arms to that of an ak pattern rifle, you will lose your bolt catch. From empty, bolt will automatically slam forward, crack action open, release magazine, reload fresh magazine, close action and charge weapon. Double feeds can be cleared as well, it just takes a little more time than Hogue Freedom Fighter Kit combo with JT Hellfighter Kit.
i saw a few videos about a tether that seemed to do the job then came across your video and man did it change my mind! i have both styles of CA complaint AR's but this seriously made a whole difference to this style. im so glad to have came across this video. thank you again man! really much appreciated!
I watched this vid about 2 years ago and had it installed on my AR. Hands down best way to go. Went to visit my brother in Nevada and went to the range with him and him and his friends. His friends were informing me that Cali gun laws suck, I said yes they do and most of the people do also. I informed them my AR is asshole compliant. They never picked up on the button you hit while changing mags. Way better than a feature less Bud Light AR.
I travel outside of California and rarely relive the mod because I am so use to it. In free state without fixed magazine laws you can add any magazine regardless of capacity. However if you wanted a taste of freedom removing the Hogue Freedom Fighter is only an Allen key away takes 30 seconds. Putting it back on will take about 10 minutes including adjusting to ensure magazine won’t drop without action being opened. Anywho glad you like the setup still best option if you like features. I like capacity myself now and went featureless so I can use my freedom week mags. I may do a quick video on it.
The latest mass-killing shooting was done with a Glock - doesn't that pretty much shoot down (pardon the pun) the argument that only and AR does the worst killing(s)?
Virginia Tech had over x2 the body count as Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida. Weapons used were both handguns, one was .22 and the other was a 9mm gun control isn't about ar 15, they want all semi-automatic period. Also, let's not forget those killed without the use of firearms in France, a truck can do so much more in less time. Not to mention car bombs or other means a crazy person intent on committing mass murder might use.. Guns aren't the issue.
@@toamaiusdvignir9468 Thank you Patriot! Once they get our semi's, they'll just ban all guns and confiscate- except for the Gestapo police who they want to control the FEMA camps. The NWO is lurking in our own gov't. Give up nothing! Take care, and keep up the good fight!
I went with a almost identical system. I utilize the Hogue Freedom Fighter, except I don't use the Jugernout pin. I use the AR maglock Kingpin. If there's a double feed and the bolt Carrier group is stuck back in the buffer tube you can push the AR Maglock Kingpin and it will break open far enough to release the magazine catch button, even with the bolt carrier group stuck back in the buffer tube. You will be able to remove the magazine.
I really enjoy your AR! I'm in the market for my first AR and am trying to pick between a Daniel Defense or an LWRCI. I unfortunately moved back to the Bay Area here in California from Florida and feel like I got slapped in the face in regards to all the crazy laws here. In your opinion, what company do you recommend? I have a budget of about $2500 but would also like to use some of the towards upgrades if possible.
I feel for you in California. Looks like such a pain. I don’t know how you can remember to do all that in a fight. Hope you never find yourself in that situation 🙏🏻.
Well, when all things are equal and capacity was the same regardless, then this was my choice. Of course freedom week changed everything. Legally I can't use any magazine bigger than 10 rounds on a "fixed magazine" rifle as it makes that an assault weapon as by definition they are only considered fixed magazine if it's limited to 10 rounds. Right now my main setup is not bad at all. featureless and ambi-safety a long with a Resurgence Arms featureless grip. I can legally used my mags on this one. and besides not having a flash hider, pistol grip or and adjustable stock its the same. I travel to AZ frequently and when I take my rifle a long for the trip I don't bother changing it back to a standard configuration, train the same way I would have to use it in CA.
Glad you found it useful. I am going to be doing an update video. Added a Magpul B.A.D Lever to help make sending bolt home 2nd nature. I also replaced the red dot for a Holosun HS515GM and added an Inforce WML-X. Hope to have video up soon.
I watched two other cal complaint videos on this and you explained it better than they did. Totally subscribing!👍👍👍 Thanks for the info, I’m currently trapped behind the blue curtain of commiepornia and we’re still trying to fight this political corruption that has overwhelmed my once great state. What most Americans don’t understand is that where this state goes the rest will likely follow so we have to stop the spread of this mental disease here. It’s starting in Virginia...
I missed this message, but thanks for your comment and apologies the crudeness. I just wanted to get to info out and wanted to help out as many people as I could.
Palmetto State Armory is got some killer deals going on. One example is a similar set up upper. I paid 369.99 for mine, plus shipping and it is a 5.56 barrel. They have a .223 Wylde 18" with 15.5 inch MOE Handguard, comes with MBUS sights and Bolt Carrier and Charging handle, I saw it for 299.99 with free shipping. That upper is better than mine. If you aren't savvy on .223 Wylde, it is pretty much a match grade .223 chamber that can handle 5.56 pressures. Shoots both, but when you shoot .223 it will be a tax driver. PSA takes a long time to fulfill orders, but the value and product cannot be denied.
The Palmetto State Armory sale is only good through today for Labor Day. Hope you get this message before it ends and that you are financially ready to buy. Trust me when I say you will not get a better complete upper with true military grade spec parts and materials for the money uptown 1000.00 for only 300 bucks shipped. Good luck. Also, they have a Sig Sauer Rome5 red dot for 120.00 shipped which is a killer optic with an over 100.00 savings since they are shipping it free as well. Good luck.
@@mau5islife Yeah killer deals, like I said, if your build is standard 5.56/.223 That .223 Wylde complete upper for 299.99 shipped just cannot be beat. Probably a sub 1" upper. That Sig Sauer Romeo5 for 119.99 shipped also is just too good to pass on lol.
Yeah wouldn't be that bad for that application, if you are looking for a good hunting round I recommend .300 HAM'R, you lose 1 round of capacity, but hits harder than an AK, very similar to a 30-30
Yea, NO. I mean, i guess wutever you gotta do to be compliant but... I jus can't imagine having to to all that. I don't even like driving thru California for that reason lol! Good job tho bro on your build. You did an awesome job installing the kit. Seemed to work flawlessly. It IS the best version of the choices you're allotted, i will say that. Atleast you can remove the clip and collapse your stock!
Yes, it's legal. The pin doesn't make it compliant without using their "bolt catch lock" or other options like AR MagLock or Hogue Freedom Fighter. This rifle is legal as it was shown in the video.
The upper and the lower are both PSA? They shipped it as a complete AR even tho it wasn't manufactured to be CA Compliant? I thought they couldn't do that. You are allowed to order non compliant and then make it compliant? TIA for clarification
Only the Upper featured in this video is from PSA. The lower is a Anderson Manufacturing "Ghost" Stripped Lower with DPMS Lower Parts Kit less Trigger Control Group, it has the ALG Defense ACT Trigger and springs. The buffer tube and spring are from PSA, I belive it is a standard carbine buffer tube. Not sure if you are aware. but california doesn't have any restrictions on long guns, there is thankfully no Roster like we have for hand guns. This means any and all weapons that don't meet restrictions for CA "Assault Weapon" Ban are fair game. To be brought in legally, a company only needs check these boxes when shipping to CA. Send complete rifle as a "Featureless Rifle" Must be 30" over all length, No Flash Hider, No Forward Pistol Grip, No Pistol Grip, Fixed Stock. and a 10 round magazine. Send a complete rifle as a "Fixed Magazine" Must be 30 inches overall length. have a "Fixed Magazine" and a 10 round magazine. Alternatively, you can buy any rifle you want and have your FFL convert to be compliant before you do paperwork and transfer to you. I hope this clarified any confusion, if you still have more questions. Be happy to answer the. Anything I can do to Arm more Californian's would be my pleasure.
@@toamaiusdvignir9468 Right i was wondering if the FFL was required to make it fixed mag or if you could do that on your own. Thank you for clarifying. I'll have to find an FFL that does that.
I just purchased a Ddm4v7 CA compliant, do I have to buy a ar maglock to go with the pin? Or can I just get the pin by itself and would it function with the maglock that come with the ar?
So whats the difference between your rifle and the AR-15 California Compliant Rifle ($1K) Juggernaut Tactical has on their website. I may have read it wrong but it comes with both the freedom fighter mag lock and the hellfighter rear pin. Should i get the 100% lower with the AR-15 Complete Upper Receiver in 18" ($1160 for both). What Free float length do you recommend? Sorry if these questions have obvious answers, thx for the informative video.
No difference other than preference/proce. I am the first person to use use combo they saw how good it was and collaborated to make a rifle like mine. I don't blame them it is a win win for both companies. I recommended a stripped receiver or even Juggernaut Tactical's Almost Complete Lower Receiver. It has Hellfighter Rear Takedown Pin and Hogue Freedom Fighter already installed. They also include a buffer tube assembly and all you need is the lower parts kit of your choice. I like to build my lower receivers, I like the option of choosing trigger components. As far as uppers, they are cheap enough to buy complete as you could save some money there. The upper I chose was a 16" 1-7 twist nitride mid-length 13.5" M-LOK light weight handguard. I got this for about 359.00 from Palmetto State Armory. My choice for free float handguard depends on barrel length, for 16-18 I like a 13.5 or 15.5" Hope this answered all your questions, thanks for watching.
I have the same setup but when i have the magazine in and pull back the bolt carrier and it rests against the top of the magazine(which is empty) I can't drop the mag because the bolt carrier is pressing against it. Did i install something wrong?
You don't have the same setup. You are using the complete Juggernaut Tactical Hellfighter Mod Kit. The magazine locking mechanism replaces the standard bolt catch/release and requires special magazines or you must modify your mags. My setup uses the Hogue Freedom Fighter for the magazine locking device. It uses a standard bolt catch and you can use any magazine since you keep last round bolt hold open. However, bolt must be sent home to be able to break the rifle open slightly to before you can drop the magazine.
NOTE: I am not a lawyer, I am not giving you legal advice. If you need legal advice please speak to an attorney. With that said, Keep in mind that "fixed magazine" rifles are limited to 10 round magazines only. If you insert a magazine on a rifle that is, under law in a fixed magazine configuration, you will be in possession of an unregistered "assault weapon" please don't ne that guy. This is a "fixed magazine" setup and you must be careful. This is a setup if you want your rifle to look like a standard configuration ar15 in looks only. Eventhough you can legally own magazines with capacities greater then 10 rounds, do not put them in a "fixed magazine" rifle or a Registered "Bullet Button Assault Weapon"(BBRAW)
Also with the Hogue Freedom fighter combined with the AR Maglock King Pin it is even faster to change your mag than it used to be with a bullet button.
How is that ca compliant? You still have a pistol grip and adjustable butt stock right? I was under the impression that the grip needed to be modified so your thumb can’t be wrapped around and their are companies that sell good compliant grips. I was told also that if you change the grip to that funky new “compliant” one you can then “fix” the adjustable butt stock you have and that would make it compliant. Other choice would be to make it into a bolt action and keep the features 🤷🏻♂️ ????
Uncer California laws, your weapon is an "assault weapon" if your rifle is semiautomatic and has detachable magazine and any 1 offending feature. This a fixed magazine rifle. The magazine cannot be removed when in semiautomatic configuration To remove the magazine lower and upper must be separated (disassembled) before you can prove the magazine. Fixed magazine rifle are in compliance with state laws. Only way to make a fixed magazine rifle into an "assault weapon" is to put a magazine which hold more than 10 rounds. Another way to have a legal semiautomatic rifle that has a detachable magazine is a featureless rifle. This means no flash hider, no forward pistol grip(2nd pistol grip forward of the receiver), no pistol grip, no adjustable/folding or collapsible sticks. Think of a Ruger Mini 14 with a standard sporting stock. Just make sure I'd you have a muzzle device of any kind it is not sold/advertised by its manufacturer as "flash hiding" same applies to ar/ak pattern rifles.
Hi, you did not use the complete kit to install the new bolt catch, did you use the original bolt catch? Is your magazine release disabled when the gun is closed?
I used Hogue Freedom Fighter as my fixed magazine solution instead of the bolt catch style solution that comes with the Juggernaut Tactical Hellfighter Mod Kit. This allows you to keep your original bolt catch/release and last round bolt hold open when you fire the weapon until dry. Hogue Freedom Fighter requires minimal separation of the receivers so it marries well with the Juggernaut Tactical Hellfighter Mod Kit's Rear Takedown Pin. Yes, magazine release button only works when receivers are separated by action of the rear takedown pin. Once the rifle is fully assembled and operating as a semi-automatic, receivers closed the magazine release is disabled and will not drop the magazine. I hope this answered your questions, thanks for watching.
7:47 you said you have two reload in California? Did you mean that as in your only allowed to reload twice or were you taling about the ability to reload twice with that clip?
Oh jeez, sorry I missed this. You can have as many as you want. Yes I meant reloading twice on due to my magazine set up. It's commonly said that you have what's on the gun. setup at the time allowed for 30 rounds total, magazine had 20 and 10 in the buttstock.
Well, that's very nice, but the AR Maglok with Kingpin does the same thing. The problem is that the first products were engineered a lot better than the ones you get nowadays. Now the button extension often doesn't fit through the small crack and the extended release button can't open the mag release. I'm to the point where I'm just going to disobey the law and put normal factory releases in all my rifles. The chances are I won't get caught because most cops don't understand the administrative regs about separating the upper and lower to drop the mag, and, to their credit, many don't care.
My personal opinion is. The only crappy part of featureless is the flash hider,other than that I don't see any issue with featureless, featureless rife you can straight click on the mag release pop in your mag and your good to go.
I see where you are coming from, however with that said, there are better featureless options that are more ergonomic than an featureless ar 15. I don't see a point of a featureless ar, unless it is a SCR or SU-16, those 2 rifles are naturally featureless, the SCR will take any standard ar upper assembly. These rifles do not have to be modified to be featureless and shoot just like any standard hunting rifle or shotgun. I won't even mention a mini 14. We like the ar, because it is a full featured modern sporting rifle, when you convert setup your rifle into a featureless configuration, you give up everything that makes it an ar 15.
@That grey area Hmmm.... How is defiance by legal compliance make anyone a cuck? The state wanted us to register our modern semi-automatic sporting rifles as "assault weapons" based on features only. Doing this allows me to defy registration and keep all the "evil feature" they were looking to ban. With that said, you sir are an idiot.
I don't understand why i can't have a pidtol grip muzzle brake and adjustable stock on a center fire rifle, but can on a rim fire. So if i did a .22 block conversion in my AR, and kept all the features, is it now ok or is it still an assult weapon?
@@jross13450 .22 not considered assault weapon lol i have all my features on my .22 AR and they even sell them with pistol grips, detachable mag and vertical grip.
Hi there. This is a custom build. Lower is an Anderson Manufacturing Ghost Stripped Lower(means it only has model and serial number, no logo or graphics) In the lower is a Palmetto State Armory Lower Parts Kit(less the fire control group) Trigger is a ALG Defense ACT Trigger. Buffer Tube Extension Assembly is a carbine length Palmetto State Armory Mil-Spec. Grip and trigger guard are Magpul MOE. The stock is a FAB Defense GL-Mag with a 10 round FAB Defense Ultimag. Upper is a 16" mid-length Palmetto State Armory 7-1 twist Nitride with 13.5 inch Magpul M-LOK Handguard. Sights are Magpul MBUS Gen 2. Then what makes it compliant are Juggernaut Tactical Hellfighter Mod Kit Takedown Pin and Hogue Freedom Fighter. Should cost about 900.00 to build this yourself, plus or minus 100.00 Hope this helped, thanks for watching.
That is crazy,I have an AR with twin 40 rd p-mags with the Taylor Freelance extenders on each mag & TF bolt that holds the mags together,86 rounds onboard.
In California fixed magazines are limited to 10 rounds. #freedomweek changed everything. Fixed magazine is no longer the best option. Featureless is the way to go. 30, 40, 60, 100, 200, 250 round options and a standard magazine catch/release is > forward pistol grip, flash hider, pistol grip and adjustable/collapsible stock.
Its x2 10 round mags coupled using OMC(Opposite Magazine Coupler) by FAB Defense. This is perfectly legal in a fixed magazine rifle because you can't shoot more than 10 rounds from each magazine without reloading.
6:00 In my setup with the Juggernaut rear pin, with the bolt locked back, I'm still able to pop the rear pin to the point of releasing the Freedom Fighter mag release pin to remove the magazine. I think manipulating the front pivot point in the event of a jam is not needed then.
Thanks, I apologize for how the crudeness, I just wanted to get some info out. I been thinking about giving making videos another shot. Maybe if I hit the dreaded 1K subs lol.
Yep, buy Juggernaut Tactical Hellfighter Rear Pin only, and use Hague Freedomfighter as your fixed magazine solution. I believe that you can use the Kingpin from ARMaglock as well.
Good video, I am going to install mine tomorrow. Did you use blue or red locktite for the pin? The tutorial says red locktite but I’m thinking blue is better because if for some reason it needs to be adjusted, its possible. Red is impossible to adjust imo. Thanks
I am assuming you are referring to the Hogue Freedom Fighter Kit set screw? If so, you don't need loctite. The spring pressure will stop it from backing out. Just make sure you clean are well after you drill/tap.(use a good degreaser)I followed instructions per the little pamphlet that comes with it. If it called for red loctite, I used blue and very little so it won't bind the plunger or spring. Make sure you adjust the magazine release properly, adjust so there is hardly any play of the magazine release button when receivers are closed. This can be done by using 500-800 grit sand paper and taking off a little bit at a time and check often. Goodluck and thanks for watching.
Have a similar setup to yours. Hellfighter rear takedown pin from juggernaut, and the fab defense gl stock with ultimags and couplers. A good setup. I’m using the “calcatch” shim that inserts in between the bolt catch from 33.3 Tactical. Nice video and good taste my friend. I run the same setup on all my ar rigs.
I would like clarification on the California Colt AR-15 compliant laws: Having a "mag lock" on a ten round clip with the rest of the rifle being all original, does that make it CA compliant?
As long as it doesn’t fit within assault weapons ban definition, not all mag locks are same. To your question, you can have any features you want except for short barrel and over length requirements anything else is fair game.
Actually, when no mag inserted, it is *still an assault weapon* by California standards. The actual definition includes, *the ability to accept* greater than 10 round capacity magazines. Which, at the time a magazine is not inserted, that rifle is capable of. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Oh jeez, no. In order to be "Fixed Magazine" it has to have a magazine of 10 rounds or less. If you own legal 11+ round magazines you can only use them in guns that wouldn't meet the definition of an "Assault Weapon" like "Featureless Rifle" setup. My pinned comment was a warning I gave for people who acquired magazines legally during "Freedom Week"
I don't have an AR lower, and I know there's no FFL requirement for AR uppers, is there a separate law in California for buying AR uppers that has flash hiders and a 12.5" barrel?
At the moment 01/09/2020 there is no law against buying any upper no matter what configuration you choose. However.... Do not put it on any lower as you would be creating an either a short barreled rifle or a pistol which are both ILLEGAL in CA. The only part that requires a serial number is the lower and is the only part you cannot have shipped to your house. Hope this answers any confusion. If you still not sure let me know. Thanks for watching and taking time to comment.
Thanks, I still think this is the best fixed magazine setup. I currently have a featureless setup chambered in .300 HAM'r as my preferred setup as even if you legally acquired standard capacity magazines you can't use them in a fixed magazine rifle. Featureless is the way to go in my opinion.
Did you change the mag release at all can I use the old one and just change the back pieces and where did you get the butt stock that holds an extra mag
No this is a stock mag release. "can I use the old one and just change back the pieces" I am not sure I understand what you meant on that one. I bought it from Optics Planet or from Botach on ebay, I can't remember. None of them send pay me or send me free stuff so don't really care where you all buy the stuff lol.
Okay i understand that. But say you have the 33 or 32 rd mag it will shoot all 32 then hit the hellfighter release the mag etc etc right??? I havnt seen anyone shoot a whole clip out of the juggernaut yet. When they review it they only shoot 3 bullets hit it put the new mag then another 3 bullets.
Not sure if this is a joke, but I will answer it anyways. No. You may not legally use a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds in a fixed magazine configuration even if you legally own those magazines. Under definitions and penal codes that govern semi-automatic rifles in Commifornia, fixed magazine has "10 round" limit in it's definition of what a fixed magazine rifle is. With a 10 round magazine, you can rack a round into the chamber, take out magazine add the additional mag to have 11 rounds in the gun. You can fire as many, or all of the rounds you want before you reload. I think people you speak of who shoot 1 or 3 rounds, then reload are just doing that to showcase the speed of the Juggernaut Tactical Hogue Freedom Fighter combo.
So, did you then make your own rifle? What manufacturers did you go with? I'm currently saving up for one, I live in Socal, and as expensive as they are (for my budget), I won't be able to afford a second one for a long time, and I want the best that I can get, while I can.
I put this together starting with a stripped lower and configured it the way I want. If you are asking what is my recommendation for manufacturers for stripped lowers, the answer is easy. You cannot do better for the money than, Anderson Manufacturing, that is what my lowers foundation is. I also really like and recommend if you have a little more to spend Aero Precision's M4E1 has a billet look, but is actually forged. It also has no roll pins to punch, all use set screws. I don't mind spending a little more. Still a high value option. Rest is a DPMS lower parts kit, less trigger control group. Trigger control group is ALG Defense ACT. Buffertube I will highly recommend Leaper's UTG Pro for their complete mil-spec buffertube assembly. Smoothest shooting rifle you will ever shoot. I hope this helps.
Even today in 2023, features your rifle needs to be "Fixed Magazine" it's still the only option outside or Registered Bullet Button Assault Weapons or Registered Assault Weapons.
Lower is an Anderson AM-15 Ghost Lower(no logo, just model and serial number) inside is a ALG Defense ACT Fire Control Group. I believe my lower kit is DPMS lower kit less the Fire Control Group. Receiver extension is standard PSA mil-spec tube, spring and buffer. Stock is by FAB-Defense GL-Mag for AR variants. Upper is a PSA complete Upper Assembly 13.5 inch lightweight handguard Magpup MBUS Gen 2 I have reconfigured the gun since the video so I have added weapon light, Holosun military grade circle dot and now setup as a featureless variant. I will be doing a video on what it is looking like soon.
@@toamaiusdvignir9468 Thank you for detailing all the components on the rifle. I am still figuring/ debating where to go on fixed mag or featureless. Since you already hands on operating/maneuvering both configurations. Would you mind sharing your experience and preference on one configuration than another and why? Greatly appreciate your input.
@@f1176 Honestly, if you think you might use or for a second consider using rifle for defensive use, hands down featureless is the way to go. I made this video at the time where things were different (pre-freedom) week. All things being equal and 10 round limits applied, I really liked this setup. However after freedom week it all changed, a fixed magazine rifle is limited to 10 rounds, those limitations are a huge consideration if you should have legally acquired magazines with more than 10 rounds. Which is why my setup is now featureless. As a range toy and cool factor, fixed magazine is still better. If you prefer utility, and ease of use, featureless is king. I will be doing a video update on my featureless build and update what rifle looks and functions like soon. Life has me super busy so I don't have an ETA. If you want a sneak peek, feel free to message me at calguns forum my user name is Toamaius. I will probably to a post there first.
@@toamaiusdvignir9468 Appreciated very much on giving your actual experience and consideration. Now I don't have to go through all you have gone through to make a better choice when I only want to own one gun. Flash hider, forward vert handle, and adjustable stock are not that important to me although they are very cool. Yet normal removable mag is very practical and essential to me maintaining the AR integrity. Yes, fixed mag can be reload fast but increases wear on the front hinge/lower for a long run. I would think featureless is a better way to go for me. Now for the hand grip, Strike Industry Megafin grip and Resurgent Arms have caught my attention. Any experience or other inputs on the grips? You mentioned the fixed mag configuration, one can ONLY load 10 round mag even one legally acquired +10 round mag. Can featureless configuration load legally acquired +10 round mag per CA law? or same rule as fixed mag configuration? Springfield Saint Victor STV916556BCA including an one stage trigger caught my eyes. Any thoughts on this one? I sure will message you at calguns to sneak peek your new built. Thank you for your kindness
Do you think in the future a mag lock system will be considered useless like the bullet button. I have Franklin mag that its fix to the lower. I also have maglock on to and i have one featurless with out a threaded barrel. I have 3 examples of ca compliant. Which do u consider best for the future laws?
Hugo Vega Franklin Armory DFM and FC Hook are both useful with Bear Flag Defense Loader or similar device. If you aren't a fan of loaders, CompMag is the best option. For a range type rifle. I see featureless being banned before a fixed magazine option.
Toamaius D'Vignir. Thanks for you suggestion. I would of never thought of a featurless version first, but i would see why. Once you get use to the fin or wrap around the grip. Its easy to load ..
Only the Rear Takedown Pin. My rifle has a standard ping pong paddle bolt catch/release. It also uses Hogue Freedom Fighter instead of the Juggernaut Tactical kits solution.
so if one were to only have the hellfighter kit installed (rather than your set-up with the hogue fighter), and there was a double feed type scenario, could the user use the same method of popping the front pin to clear the action enough to drop the mag? if no, then what would the user have to do to clear a double feed?
Yes the Hellfighter kit would allow you to remove front take down pin to gain extra room to pull a magazine in a missfeed scenerio. After looking at this video a few times, his kit isnt completly installed. the bolt wont lock to the rear on empty with the kit installed. he just has the hellfighter rear takedown installed. The bolt catch is removed with a tab to lock the mag in. You can see it from JT here (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5SQOKzo9ntI.html) great video thou. love PSA!
@@@maz94protege @ Toamaius D'Vignir thank you for the replies. yes, As explained in the video I believe he only has the JT hellfighter rear pin while using the hogue freedom fighter front pin/spring ( after drilling a hole with the jig). therefore only the rear half of the JT kit is installed. he can clear a double feed while only removing the front pin, while I believe in the JT vid the operation requires both the front and rear pins to be removed and an extra person to drop the magazine once the action has been opened ( but held together by the first person/operator to keep everything in its place). I know I could be wrong, but I am curious if the full JT kit would allow only the front pin to be removed, and therefore removing the need of an extra person to drop the magazine. hope that makes sense
Yes, you can have whatever you want. If your rifle has detachable magazine and any "evil feature" it is considered an "assault weapon" in California. Fixed magazine is the only way to have an ar15 with features.
Juggernaut Tactical, uses a bolt catch style mechanism that replaces your ping pong paddle, it requires special magazines or you to modify your existing ones. You also won't have last round bolt hold open.
Martin Garcia You need to remove your flash hider, forward pistol grip, pistol grip(if you can wrap your thumb around it is a pistol grip) and adjustable stock. If you want to keep those features, you need to make your rifle a fixed magazine. The "assault weapons" ban was revised to include bullet buttons. Pretty much, if you can readily remove your magazine with the use of a tool while it is in an assembled state(upper and lower receiver actions are closed and ready to fire in a semiautomatic configuration) Before you can drop the magazine, action must be disassembled (upper and lower receivers separated where rifle is no longer in a semiautomatic configuration) then and only then can you drop remove your magazine. Here is some stuff from bill and the penal code. Registration dates were extended 'til July 01 2018. (b) (1) Any person who, from January 1, 2001, to December 31, 2016, inclusive, lawfully possessed an assault weapon that does not have a fixed magazine, as defined in Section 30515, including those weapons with an ammunition feeding device that can be readily removed from the firearm with the use of a tool, shall register the firearm before January 1, 2018, but not before the effective date of the regulations adopted pursuant to paragraph (5), with the department pursuant to those procedures that the department may establish by regulation pursuant to paragraph (5). b) For purposes of this section, “fixed magazine” means an ammunition feeding device contained in, or permanently attached to, a firearm in such a manner that the device cannot be removed without disassembly of the firearm action.
Yes, that is correct. When you buy a semi-automatic center-fire rifle it will only be available 2 ways, fixed magazine or featureless. Another way is to buy a stripped lower and build it into a compliant variant.
You need special mags or make modifications to your mags if you use the bolt catch style magazine locking device that comes with the Juggernaut Tactical Hellfighter Mod kit. The Hogue Freedomfighter lets you keep a standard magazine bolt catch.
@@steveereeno2869 FAB Defense GL-Mag only stock I use on any of my AR's. On my to include my featureless setup, I use Strike Industries Stock Stop to lock it. Can't beat having and extra 10 rounds and still be this low profile.
Nothing comes with the rifle unless you buy it configured like this by FFL or Manufacturer. To make this compliant as shown in video, you buy Hogue Freedom Fighter Kit and Juggernaut Tactical Hellffighter Mod Rear Takedown Pin. Hogue kit will come with everything you need except foe tap and drill. Comes jig springs, plugers and drill bits.
After a long tussle between deciding on which rifle to get i bought a barret rec7, some mags, nice 4x glass, grip,... then i found out my jobs taking me to northern california where my hobby is limited to this bullshit i’m watching rn. Spent well over 4k on everything just to say goodbye to it all.. ....just great...
Plenty of money for a very nice rifle with fancy accessories, optics and the special compliant parts, but when it comes to spending two bucks on a new battery for the old smoke detector...well, you've got to cut costs somewhere!
Not sure I understand your question. The rear takedown pin has 2 positions, one cracks the receivers for reloading, other allows for full disassembly of the receivers. I hope this helps.
Fins when combined with a compensator and a fixed stock make the rifle featureless under the law. This has all the "evil" banned features so it has to be fixed magazine or else it falls under CA "Assault Weapon" definition and you become an instant felon.
Is ur AR setup still the same? I'm looking to purchase an ar15 and I want all the features. Having to break my action to reload isn't all that bad to keep all the features I want.
Yep, only difference between my setup now and video is, MagPul Bad Lever Inforce WML-X Weapon light at 9 O'Clock Swapped out red dot for my current favorite sub 400.00 red dot, the Holosun HS515GM(Military Grade battery powered with Shake Awake 50,000 hours ++++ circle dot)
Hello, this is still good in 2020 in the State of California. Just remember "fixed magazine" means limited to 10 rounds. Even if you legally own magazines that hold 11+ rounds. So if the magazine is locked like what is shown in this video and you have a magazine holding 11+ rounds, it magically turns this into an "assault weapon" Another option is "featureless" with this you get a standard magazine release/catch, but you cannot have any 1 of the offending features like, flash hider/supressor, forward pistol grip, pistol grip or and adjustble/collapsible or folding stock. these are the 2 ways to legally own an ar15 style weapon in California. PS: If you legally own magazines with more than 10 rounds, you can use them in a featureless rifle as no law on the books against using these legally acquired magazines on weapons not considered "assault weapons" or "fixed magazine" if you have any other questions, let me know. Thanks for watching
It isn't the pin that makes it legal. Pin just makes disassembly of the action quicker than pulling a pin like on a standard rifle. The reason you can have whatever you want on this setup is; it is a fixed magazine rifle. No way to drop the magazine while gun is fully assembled. Rear pin must be actuated to separate the action which allows the magazine to be dropped.
@@noka7776 Yep, that is correct. If your rifle is a semi-automatic center-fire rifle with a detachable magazine it cannot have any of the "deadly features" like, Flash Hide4. Forward Pistol Grip. A Pistol Grip. Adjustable/Telescoping Stock. If your rifle is fixed magazine you can put whichever of those "evil features" you want.
I'm also in California and I bought a LMT Commando. It has a sorry ass A2 stock so it's good to know I can replace it because it's a fixed mag gun. I like that couple mag you have and I might even do the stock. Can you give me the names of the companies?
Both are FAB Defense products. Mags or OMC(Opposite Magazine Coupler) can be had as stand alone products or an OMC kit. The stock is a GL-Mag. Good luck, thanks for watching.
Did you have to do any drilling to install any of these parts? Just got my AR with a fixed stock and shark fin(lame) and would like to convert it similar to yours
It depends on what you use for a fixed magazine solution, the one used for this build is Hogue Freedom Fighter, does require drilling and tapping lower receiver. Eventhough it can be undone, the lower will always have the scar of compliance. I did this on my kitchen table with a simple drill no vice required.
@@toamaiusdvignir9468 Thank you for the speedy response, i just want to make sure its legal as well for me to go from one solution (fin and fixed stock) to mag lock solutions. Another question i have is can i change out my barrel and barrel shroud to how i like it or would i have to keep the firearm in configuration i bought it in.(just ordered S&P 15 Pro 2 as my first ar purchase)
@@flawlessproxx7374 Any rifle you can legally buy in California does not meet the definition of an "assault weapon" rifles being currently sold will be, rim fire, featureless, or fixed magazine. These weapons are your property, you can do whatever you want as long as it is a California legal configuration. The only time you cannot change anything on your rifle is, if it is a RAW(Registered Assault Weapon) or a BBAW(Bullet Butron Assault Weapon) There is no way to un-register. I hope this answered your question. If you have any others, feel free to leave another comment, or look for me on calguns.net
Still legal, there are better options like usig a KingPin instead of a Juggernaut Tactical Hellffighter Mod Rear Takedown Pin. Also, using a Brownell's BRN--180 short stroke piston upper.
