BEST CINEMA RIG UNDER $1500!!! 

yea it would be great to see what kind of quality video comes out!

There are plenty of examples of BMPCC footage online.

100% agree. I will love to see this rig working in real life, some examples will be nice.

Yes really !

+amiran kurtanidze Cool, thanks for watching!

There are different sizes of batterys in that socket type. "DSLR Video Shooter" channel has great video about that batterys.

Im in the US dude. $700 for the camera (used) $300 for the metabones adapter (used) $180 for the cage $80 for the lens $125 for the lcdvf and $50 got the battery = $1435. If you're paying $2200 for this rig your're getting ripped off. Thanks for watching!

NigelBarros how much does the rig weigh?

2 years later, I've just managed to hunt down a sweet deal: BMPCC + Metabone Speedboster + Nikon 35mm for $750 ;)

useful for monitoring nothing but better than nothing at all

The px100 ii aren't actually bad at all, have you owned them? Thanks for the suggestions though, I'm actually looking to get a second pair of closed backs

NigelBarros sennheiser hd25, full stop. Industry standard set of cans that are insanely user maintanable

lol

i had a Pocket, now i have the new Micro cinema. is very nice.

Yeah they are great cameras!

Thx bro, this was extremely helpful and down-to-the-point. No fluff.

I think you need to worry about your spelling more than anything right now,

That's what you think, but in reality, it depends what you're making. I didn't really notice the difference between lenses until I started looking at my stuff on the big screen. Truth is, unless seriously cheap, most lenses are sharp enough half closed. Now, mantaining sharpness open, good color reproduction and esthetic distortion on wide lenses? that's 4k range (Cine Alta, CPs, lomo, kowa). Now, if you want good tonal range with silk smooth gradients, no added contrast, esthetic veiling (if any), and aaaall the elements to work together to enhance the image, well, you're looking at the Cooke, Arri, Leica, you know, 40,000+ kits.

Really it all depends on what kind of shot you're getting. If I'm filming someone speak I'd have my right hand on the side of the cameras grip. my eye pressed up against the viewfinder to keep it steady and my left hand pulling focus on the lens. for lower angle shots I'd grab the top of the handle, pre focus it and try to use a small apertuer with deeper depth of field so focusing wouldn't be as much of an issue. Yes shoulder rigs are nice but if you listen in the video my goal was to keep the rig small and avoid a big bulky rig. A lot of my films have me out in the mountains so the less gear i have to pack with me the better. Hope that answers your question and thanks for watching!

question is are u going to do advanced color grade and can you shoot and work with raw. if not... well.. i would just go with some diff stuff.

also does the cage come with the screws to attach the battery pack to the cage?

Yeah I agree, but I tried to keep my rig as compact as possible, adding an external monitor would be way to bulky. The lcd on the bmpcc is crap but I can at least pull focus with it using the zacuto which is really all I need

Yes I agree this is the problem and I wonder what BMD thought when they put such a crappy lcd on it. I find it hard to see how I should set the focus the way I want it with older vintage lenses even with the Zacuto to be honest.

Yeah there was definitely some IR pollution when I used a lot of ND. I’d get the filter too if I still had it

Thanks NigelBarros appreciate the response. Will get one!

+Alba Adventures I still might, but I don't believe 4k is very necessary. It makes things eaiser for croppping and obviously resulution but its also harder on your editing system. Either way I'll probably stick with blackmagic design maybe an ursa one day or whatever they release in the future. Their cameras aren't perfect but they are giving filmmakers the features we've always asked for. 10 bit, prores, RAW and price point are what separates blackmagic from the crowd for sure. I hope they make a version 2 of the pocket cinema camera with 4k or maybe 2.5 at least and some faster frame rates, but right now I'll be sticking with pocket camera and possibly buy a micro cinema camera to go with it. Thanks for watching!

Thanks Nigel, I started to follow you a few months back - maybe even a year ago. Very pretty stuff. We are very portable shooters - and super amateur though getting better every day. In other words, we are learning as we go and at times have NO clue what we are doing. We are debating to make the jump to 4k but, for the very same reasons you stated - e.g. space, power and need - we aren't sure if we should make the investment. I mean, you would laugh at what we shoot with (our main camera is a Nikon p7700 and our action cam is a firefly 6s). We push the limits on the Nikon - getting frustrated from time to time. We had thought about getting the EOS-M2 and putting ML on it (that is how we came across you) then figured it would be better to wait and make the investment later and maybe just jump to 4k. Cameras that we looked at seriously are the LX100, FZ1000 the RX10 i and ii. Since we are shooting outside, running (or in most cases skiing) we figure having a good fixed lens would suffice.. We looked at the XC10 (pricey for what it is) and like it for IS and how it fits in your hand but, it was really to expensive for what you got. We really like the BMPCC, small, high bit rate and the stuff that comes out of the camera when graded looks amazing. Though, we are not sure if its suitable of the type of stuff we do.. We rarely if ever have a tripod on us since we are shooting on the mountains we are covering, lugging skis, kids and the kitchen sink. How is the IS on the BMPCC from your experience? Anyway, sorry to make a big conversation on this thread on my woes but, maybe you can take a peak at what we do on our channel and let me know what you think we should do.. This rig set up is very nice and am impressed by that. Mr. Cheesy Cam (who we like too) set up a rig for his BMPCC and it was like HUGE.... Thx Nigel.. Best, Ray

+Alba Adventures The BMPCC has no IS, but you can get lenses with IS like the Panasonic kit lenses or the more expensive 12-35mm F2.8. For the kind of films you make I think something like the Fz1000 or RX10 series would suite your needs. Those cameras are going to handle shooting action a lot better than a BMPCC. I started out as a skateboarding filmer and I can tell you its a bit more tricky filming action sports with the BMPCC, due to the fact that getting wide shots is hard and the fastest frame rate is only 30fps. If you were looking for a good camera to make other types of films with and you need interchangeable lenses and a larger sensor, I'd recommend the Panasonic G6 (or even the G7) but the G6 can be had for around $250 now days, it has an electronic viewfinder, Micro 4/3 mount, 24-60fps in 1080p, a mic jack, a flip out screen and all the video features you could want with the exception of a cinema picture profile and a good codec (the G6 shoots in AVCHD) But it gives you very sharp and detailed video quality and is a great bang for the buck. The G7 is basically the same except it shoots in 4k and it does have a Cinelike D picture profile but still suffers from a less than desirable codec. Either of those camera paired with the right stabilized zoom lens would probably meet your needs as well. I look forward to seeing more skiing videos from you in the future! Thanks again and hopefully that helped! -Nigel

Oh, I forgot to mention, I have seen all of your videos ;). Every one. Some more than once too! We were looking that G7 too - and for the price its amazingly cheap. We used to have Canons - like several - and glass but, sold it all to go smaller. Crazy, I should have kept the glass and things are going bigger. Thanks Nigel for replying back and for your help. If you find yourself in the NYC area, ping us.

No I sold this camera over the summer, but not because i found something better necessarily, but more so because I'm always buying and selling cameras for different kinds of shooting needs. Currently I have the a6000, but even now I'm looking into other cameras. Just depends on what you're shooting i think though, I shoot a lot of different things so I'l probably be on an endless hunt for the perfect camera haha. thanks for watching!

Yes it does comes with the cord you need

Yes the image is better in some regards, but low light is where this camera fails unfortunately. The difference in actual sharpness and detail is very negligible between the BMPCC and the GH3, its dynamic range that the bmpcc kills the GH3 in

NigelBarros I see, thanks for your reply!!

Nigel, If you were going to film a feature, would you use your GH3 or the BMPCC? Please explain why, thank you!

That's a good question, for me it really does depend on what I'm filming. If it was a documentary, adventure film or event coverage, I'd chose the GH3 cause its better for run and gun situations, it's more discreet, has longer battery life, weather sealed and better in low light. But If it was a narrative film, commercial, promo or music video, I'd choose the BMPCC, cause of its dynamic range, Raw ability and film like quality. Hope that helps!

Right on, that's what I thought! Thank you!

I have the same issue. Did you get it solved? Would really appreciate the info

thanks mate!

Bryan Steenerson I left a link in the description, if that battery adapter is what your talking about?

NigelBarros ah it was that little connector from the battery to the cage that I'm looking for. but it looks like that came with the battery

I still use it from here and there, but the Sennheiser is good for this rig

I do other work with my cameras besides make youtube videos. My preferred camera for youtube is the panasonic GH3, its cheap weather sealed, great codec, headphone jack, sharp video etc. My blackmagic served me well on numerous projects but I have sold it since this video. Thanks for watching,

NigelBarros With what did you replace it? (if you don't mind me asking) and why?

leonidas theodoropoulos I'm still using the bmpcc. I prefer this camera, although it's old now.

definitely, I failed to mention that in the video but yeah the preamps are pretty terrible

you buy mostly blackmagic and i think the main reason you are buying blackmagic so u can done some kick ass color grade work and shoot in raw.. if u are not gonna shoot in raw.. i don't see any point of buying blackmagic

i understand it is made for pro who wants to do do heavy post processing but the pros they are also the ones that will uses the super expensive lenses (the one that will give the best color and contrast out of the lens without post processing to fake it) they also know how to light a scene the best so the need for post processing to fix highlights and shadows is dramatically lowered. finally as this camera has a low dynamic range, it seems that a panasonic g7 in 4k in their hands will always produce a better result than with bmpcc. for 1/3 the price.

well.. u kinda don't.. blackmagic have a lot of huge minus... points.. like super crap battery... super small sensor... so in all important departaments it kinda sux. The cool thing is the high dynamic raw.. that is really dope... if u are not gona use it... there is no point of... haveing all those other minus.. points.. when u can buy.. some dslr.. that.. is full frame or almost fullframe.. have super long battery life... better storage and basically... u don't need to spend another few h $ to make it usable as it is with blackmagic.

I had in the past both Panasonic G7 and GH4 and sold them after i used the Bmpcc.. The image quality is not even close if you want to shoot films.. 4k is good but too sharp if you want the film look and the colors are not there..you cant beat 13 stops of dynamic ranges with an 8-bit camera.

bryan gonzalez What do you mean? It's a cinema camera.. or at least that's what it's intended to be.

AEguy Productions Thank for the reply! 😀

it can be.. but it was not designed for that.. i don't recommand it for it.. Crap battery life... huge crop... (so if you want vlog from hand.. your face when you talk.. you will have to buy some super extra expensive superwidelense.. + speed boster. super short battery life.. and hmm.. and not so much of memory... Yeah u can fix that with shit amount of cash.. and make huge rig... but you can just buy 1 camera that have all does stuff in it and it is small... blackmagic is more for people who want to shot raw and do advanced color grade and want to use that 12-13 dlight

Maciek Jutrzenka wow 😕